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maajid remains a muslim.have to face the grim fact, it is an ugly fact, it's a fact we want to turn away from, no one wants to turn away that fact more than i am. this is embedded in islam and the best way to fix that is to acknowledge that and when you talk about attitudes and a mindset, the first thing that comes to my mind is it is an attitude towards the koran. all the individuals, treat this k k koran like a driver's manual. if they look at mohammed on some instances, but some instances, he cannot be a moral guide and that is why maajid and the rest of us who were brought in the house of islam, we need to stand up and to say, in many ways the prophet mohammed cannot be a moral guide. that is what charlie hebdo was doing. if we want to be a part of civilized society, we have to say the prophet mohammed, especially in years after medina, he cannot be a moral guide for good. he was from our 21st century perspective, absolutely immoral. we have to satirize that. >> maajid. as somebody who's still in the musl

. >> joining me is former islamic extremist, maajid nawaz.aajid you became radicalized when you were 16 years old after your own brother followed -- joined. and basically followed his example. can you explain how that happened? >> yes, i mean there was a year different between us and the ties between brothers particularly from a cultural background muslim or a middle eastern or muslim background the ties between family are emphasized by the religion itself and the culture and on top of that facing the violent racism i did on the streets of essex in the united kingdom. my brother was sort of a protector for me when he joined the organization. i followed him into the movement. >> is there often, now in the last couple of days we had the case of several parents who said look i had no idea this was going on in my house and no idea my child was interested in this stuff. was perhaps even plotting something. do you hear that a lot from parents and how accurate do you think that is? >> it's very accurate for the parents to say they had little idea. m

i want to bring in maajid nawaz.author called radical, my journey out of extremism and mia bloom author of bombshell, the many faces of women terrorists and professor of security studies. the cash of weapons in the apartment based on mark's reporting, it's far harder to get access to weapons in france than it is in the u.s. >> absolutely. and even more harder in britain. when in we must look for how they got a hold of them. it is quite difficult to do. that in itself points to the levels of training and the professionalism in which these people were able to approach this operation. >> mia, in terms of the female suspect who's still on the run, i think a lot of people were surprised, first early this morning when french police put out a picture of a woman who they say was directly involved in the killing of the french policewoman on thursday morning. you spent years interviewing women who were jihadis. you say women are far more radical often than women within these organizations. >> in many cases in europe in the u.k

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unlike maajid nas wanawaz, it's not like radical islam.ou though you don't make such a distinction. >> i make a distinction but the distinction is in a little bit in a different way. i agree with president bush president obama and the leaders of the civilized world that we are not at war with islam. but within islam is a radical movement that has declared war on us. that asymmetric relationship you have irregular war fair andfare not only with military means and surveillance means but we also have to get to the bottom of it and see what's -- where the ideas are coming from. and it's very grim. it's very sad. it's the ling i was brought up in. it's the religion of my mother. >> reporter: you're saying this is not just a military fight. a police fight. this is a fight of ideas as well. >> this is a fight of ideas. this is a fight of visions. we have a movement that is trans transnational, that has the resources, that has the conviction and wants to impose their vision of what they believe on the rest of us. and the more we ignore the ideolog