>> chair fewer: no, it isn't showing, mr. holland. madam clerk, can you assist with a copy of that presentation? >> clerk: unfortunately, i don't have a copy of the presentation. >> i could send a copy in that would help. >> chair fewer: if you were to send this to you, we could actually -- >> clerk: just a moment to see if i can help to upload it. >> just sent it to you. >> clerk: thank you. >> supervisor walton: supervisor fewer, should we continue now or move forward with other items on the agenda and come back? >> chair fewer: madam clerk, can we call item 3 while we're getting that together? >> clerk: yes. item three, ordinance waiving certain procurement and contracting requirements in chapters 6, 14b and 21 of the administrative code, as applied to the potrero yard modernization project to submit a developer to utilizing the best value selection process and provide that the city complete the review under the environmental act, with an agreement for a joint development services from certain contracting requirements and administrative

>> chair fewer: no, it isn't showing, mr. holland. madam clerk, can you assist with a copy of that presentation? >> clerk: unfortunately, i don't have a copy of the presentation. >> i could send a copy in that would help. >> chair fewer: if you were to send this to you, we could actually -- >> clerk: just a moment to see if i can help to upload it. >> just sent it to you. >> clerk: thank you. >> supervisor walton: supervisor fewer, should we continue now or move forward with other items on the agenda and come back? >> chair fewer: madam clerk, can we call item 3 while we're getting that together? >> clerk: yes. item three, ordinance waiving certain procurement and contracting requirements in chapters 6, 14b and 21 of the administrative code, as applied to the potrero yard modernization project to submit a developer to utilizing the best value selection process and provide that the city complete the review under the environmental act, with an agreement for a joint development services from certain contracting requirements and administrative

madam chair? >> due to the covid-19 health emergency, this meeting is being held virtually, and all members and staff are present via teleconference. this will ensure the safety of all members and staff. on the meeting page, we've asked the public to participate remotely by e-mailing or mailing a comment. we continue to urge the public to write the board at mtaboard@sfmta.org. while this technology allows us to hold these meetings via teleconference, it may not be as seamless as we like it to be. there may be gaps and silence as staff is transitioning to presentations and speakers. please understand that we are doing our best for the hearing. if we lose connections during the meeting, we'll pause the meeting until the connection is reestablished. lastly, i would like to thank all those who have been working to make the meeting possible. >> clerk: madam chair and staff, there meeting is being televised on sfgtv. for those of you watching the live stream, please be aware there is a delay between the

guest. >> thank you, madam chair. commissioner perez, i think you and the men and women who serve underneath you for the service day tou provide every our country. as we talked about the trusted traveler program there's actually several different programs underneath the trusted traveler program, is that correct? >> correct, congressman. >> and i and i was able to findt least five of the tsa precheck being one of the global entry program, the nexus program, the sentry program and the fast program. with all five of those programs the under the global umbrella of the trusted traveler program? >> they would be. complication -- clarification i would make is that tsa pre-check is administered by different agency other than cbp. also tsa obviously and the department of public security so we in cbp don't have oversight regarding the implementation of that program. all the of the programs you mention are run by cbp. >> talk about the general purpose ofpu these programs specifically the one that, the program cbp administers. >>

madam chair -- >> yes madam chair -- >> how many people are in the queue? >> we currently have two people in line. >> okay. i see that the advocates are asking to extend public comments to three minutes for all items. since we have on average two speakers for public comment on each item, i think i will grant that today. so please set the time for three minutes for each public speaker and we can start public comment now on item number three only. thank you. >> okay. thank you madam chair. can you send the first caller through please. >> hello commissioners, can you hear me? >> yes, we can. >> okay, good. eric brooks, california for energy choice and san francisco clean energy advocate. on the pcia fee, i mean it's great that we're asking for an extension on how long that's to be paid off, but really we got to get more -- the cities that are community choice cities need to go at war with the california public utilities on this. if we don't, then they're going to keep doing this to us until our community choice programs are dead. so we got to really declare wa

>> clerk: yes, madam chair. the meeting after next would be on november 18th. >> chair fewer: is november 18th too late? bill? >> yes. >> chair fewer: okay, good. this is really exciting. okay, let's open this up for public comment. >> sorry, buddy. >> no worries. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, please. >> clerk: madam chair, operations is checking to see if there are callers in the queue. operations, let us know if there are callers that are ready. if you have not already done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. for those already on hold wait until the system creates that you have been unmuted. let us know if there are callers who wish to comment on that item number 4. >> madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. public comment on item number 4 is closed, i would like to move this to the meeting of november 18th. a roll call vote, please. >> clerk: on the motion [roll call] three ayes. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. >> clerk: nothing further.e bef? >> chair

madam chair, i yield back thank you very much, mr. weber. appreciate your questions and as always your participation in the subcommittee. i have a few more questions i want to follow up with and will have an opportunity for the numbers to do another round of questions if everyone is available to stay, since we still have time. i want to follow up on a couple of things going back to some of the earlier questions about, one about the unauthorized devices or personal devices, and dented you want to follow up on mr. weber slanted questions all of it more. mr. martin, the august 2020 iq report on unauthorized devices which of course is this year on nasa's network sites, cio's office saying their score no authoritative way to obtain the number of partner owned i.t. devices. and i know, mr. seaton, you make in your not a it anymore but it seems as if there's stopping. mr. martin, i am wondering what the risks are not being able to identify and why that may be the case from your perspective in this report. and then what are they doing to address the

thank you, madam chair. >> thank you very much, madam chair. my first question is for any or all of the witnesses. i understand your companies are working to develop new treatments and vaccines to fight the spread of covid-19. what country do you expect to deliver the first credible widely used vaccine? could the witnesses answer please? >> thank you, congresswoman. thank you for the question. companies around the world are working day and night to develop not only vaccines but also treatments and we are cooperating like we have never done before to assure the process. we are working 24/7. as has been said before, innovation in the industry happens primarily in the united states with many of the companies working on treatments and vaccines. there are companies of course in other parts of the world working on this as well. what i know is whether it is a new medicine or vaccine, whenever innovation is made available to patients, it is available right away. in our country sometimes it is delayed in terms of its access. we are working to make sure

type of work that we do in order to keep our communities safe. >> thank you for your answers and madam chair thank you for holding this hearing today and i close my questions on that. >> thank you mr. higgins. the chair now recognizes gentleman from california mr. correa. >> thank you mr. chair. i have a couple of follow-up questions and i'd agree with mr. higgins the more information the better. the bad guy would do less harm outside the country and inside the country too. we have a lot of domestic terrorism and a rise in domestic terrorism so i think sherry sherry that information is important and i hope we get there respecting the objectives of the states in terms of their public safety objectives as well as yours as well. you touched on something interesting which was a foreign traveler program under the trusted traveler program. you mentioned something about the dmv like data so i think there is like 11 countries that we have a trusted traveler program come is that correct? the was that sharing of the information of those 11 countries similar dmv data? tell me first of all do we have tr

>> hi, madam chair. i'm presenting item 4, is that up? >> chair fewer: oh, you're item 4. >> yes. the public safety bond program. or 2 and 3? >> chair fewer: who is doing item number 3? >> let me just chime in. i'm the public finance. i'm sorry. the presentations were a little out of order. the first -- the past presentation for mr. lee was for item 3. the recent presentation by mr. catpump ang for items 1 and 2, so now we're on to item 4. items 1 and 2 were together. 1 a master resolution for authorizing the entire $600 million bond program for the 2019 affordable housing bond. as well as the first issuance, separate resolution of not to exceed $260 million for the first issuance. kqed okay. wait a minute. we did hear a presentation about the $260 million. no? >> that was the presentation just now. >> chair fewer: yeah. okay. and then so what item are we hearing now? >> we're ready for item number 4, which is the public health and safety bond issue of $126,000,000.925000. >> okay. we heard item 1 and 2 and 3 already? >> >> chair fewer: mr. chen is shaking his head. mr. chen, now

>> clerk: yes, madam chair.perations is checking to see if there's callers in the queue. let us know if there are callers that are ready. if you have not done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. for those on hold wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. are there any callers that wish to comment on item number 2? >> madam chair, there are no callers in the kai. >> chair fewer: public comment on item 2 is now closed. i would say that we should probably continue this item to the budget and finance committee meeting two weeks from now. do you think, mr. lee, that would give you enough time to get the information gathered together? >> clerk: just to note that i believe that there's a better day. >> chair fewer: to continue it for three weeks. mr. lee, does that interfere with a timeline for you? >> i'd like to actually to maybe -- maybe marissa or somebody from the controller's office can speak to the timeline because i'm not sure that i'm exactly clear on the implications of where we are

>> madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> chair ronen: okay. thank you so much. i just wanted to give one last chance to miss bittner to speak if she has any comments. >> hello. this is (indiscernible). i do want to speak... but i think that actually chair ronen covered it. however i feel -- in short i feel that i bring as someone that has worked with ihss and have worked with clients to the public authority governing board and you have my recommendation and i hope to be considered for this. thank you so much. >> clerk: ronen, i believe that you are muted at this time. >> chair ronen: so sorry. thank you so much, miss bittner. and i just want to thank you for all your years of advocacy and work in this arena. and i'm a big fan. so thank you for applying to this seat. and with that do any of my colleagues have any comments? >> yeah, i do, thank you, chair ronen. i just wanted to thank all of the applicants for your commitments to serve our city and the ihss public authority. and just for all that you do to ensure that seniors and people with disabilities are able

>> thank you, madam chair. and the minutes of this meeting reflect that due to covid-19 health emergency and to protect the commission members, the city employees and the public, the meeting rooms of city hall are closed. however, the commission members and staff will be participating in today's meeting remotely. this precaution is taken pursuant to the local, state and federal orders, declarations and directives. commission members will attend the meeting through video conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. please note that today's meeting is live cable cast on sfgov-tv and streamed live online at sfgov-tv.org,/ethicslive. once again, streamed live online at sfgov-tv.org/ethicslive. public comment will be available on each of the items on this agenda. each member of the public will be allowed three minutes to speak. comments are opportunities to speak during the public comment period and are available by calling 1-(415)-655-0001. again, the phone number

babin: thank you, madam chair. hopefully i'm unmuted. i would address this to the chief information officer, mr. seaton. two weeks ago president trump signed space policy directive number 5 which focused on cybersecurity principles for space systems, spd-5 states, it is the policy of the united states that executive departments and agencies will foster practices within government space operations and across the commercial space industry that protects space assets and their supporting infrastructure from cyberthreats and ensure continuity of operations. my question is this, as nasa increases its use of public-private partnerships, how will it ensure contractors comply with this policy without implementing regulations? mr. seaton: spd-5, we appreciate the administration and this congress' focus on space cybersecurity because that's critically important thousand. we're currently in the process of reviewing and analyzing spd-5 but the good news is we see a lot of consistency with best practices that we are already implementing and will conti

>> yes, madam chair, ethisser way. take a motion to i a prove the consent calendar with item 17.3 severed. and then you would take a motion on the item -- the amendment and then a motion on the item as amended. >> that is great. is there a motion because i am trying to stay in order of items. is there a motion on the larger consent agenda, which includes the other items 17.1, 17.2, and 17.4. >> motion to approve. >> is there a second? >> second. >> secretary boomer, can you call the role? >> [roll call] madam chair t consent calendar is approved with 17.3 severed. >> great. we have the motion from director heminger. was there a second? >> sure. i'll second it. >> we have two seconds. all in favor, roll call please. unless there is anymore discussion. okay. >> all right. the motion to attend resolution 17.3 to approve limiting residential parking permits for educational institutions to a maximum of 300 permits. [roll call] madam chair t amendment is approved. >> i just really quickly, everyone, so are we in confirmation

thank you, madam chair. i yield back. >> thank you. the gentleman's time has expired and now our chairwoman from new york is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you very much. mr. ware, i would like to ask the same question that i asked mr. shear but because of technical difficulties, i was unable to ask the same question to you and it is regarding the gao december report that shows 4,226 loans went to businesses with over 500 employees. so, in your work have you been able to examine whether or not the sba has confirmed businesses employed a number of employees stated in the application? >> have we confirmed this? yes our work has confirmed. the thing is i don't have the exact figures in front of me. i definitely can get you that though. with over 500 employees notwithstanding the rule that permitted exemption for the largest output industry. does your office plan to examine how these companies were eligible to receive these loans? >> certainly. it will be reported publicly later in this audit. >> in the sba response stated and i quo

thank you. >> you are now recognized. >> thank you madam chair. i will address my question that in july 201821 - - celgene announced a policy with the price increase is limited to no more than once a year at a level no greater then medicaid medicaid services projected increase with the national health expenditures of the year. so my question doctor, and the beginning of this year bristol-myers raised the list price teethree revlimid at $763 per pill. and in that association of 2020 was five.four so it appears you already failed to meet that part of celgene's pricing structure. can bristol-myers squibb be committed to not take any further price increases for teethree revlimid this year? >> congresswoman we are not taking it will not take additional price increases for revlimid this year the practice is to look at a number of factors to keep it at a maximum of 6 percent and only those that are active in the development program and with the total portfolio but that has been flat. >> so my questions to my colleagues to you also do we need to put regul

let's open up to public comment please. >> yes, madame chair. operation is checking to see if there are callers in the queue. operation, please let us know if there are callers ready. if you have not already done so, please press star 3 to be added to the queue. for those already on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted. let us know if there are any callers who wish to comment on item number 7. >> madame chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> supervisor fewer: okay. public comment is now closed on item 7. colleagues, any comments or questions? seeing none, let's move this to the full board with a positive recommendation. roll call vote, please. >> on the motion, supervisor walton? >> supervisor walton: aye. >> supervisor mandelman: aye. >> supervisor fewer: aye. >> your ayes are three ayes. >> supervisor fewer: thank you. call item number 8, >> yes, resolution authorizing the human services agency to apply for and september a county child welfare agency allocation for an amount not to exceed $459,000 for the

and let us know if there are any callers to comment on item number 3. >> madam chair, there are no callersthe queue. >> chair fewer: public comment on item number 3 is closed and i make a motion to accept the amendments. a roll call vote, please. >> clerk: yes. on the motion [roll call] three ayes. >> chair fewer: i make a motion to move this to the board as amended with a positive recommendation. roll call vote, please. >> clerk: yes, on the motion [roll call] three ayes. >> chair fewer: this amendment passes. item number 4. >> clerk: item number 4, a resolution retroactively authorizing the department of public health to submit an application to continue to receive funding for the ryan white act h.i.v./aids emergency relief grant program grant from the health resources services administration and requesting $15.7 million in h.i.v. emergency relief program funding for the san francisco eligible metropolitan area for the period of march 1, 2021 you through february 28, 2022. the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 1-(415)-655-0001. meeting i.d.

>> yes, madam chair. you guys are a trusted service, i would encourage you to use your bulletproof pans, to use your platforms to reach out to your constituents. and to give them the assurance that they definitely need to be confident. they were local election administrative's are doing their jobs. and to help us debunk a lot of these -- this mess. people listen to you guys, and i think it's really important that to the extent that you could get help on your website, and in person, it will be very helpful to the voting population and to all of the constituents. it would be helpful to all of the election administrators. thank you. >> thank you. first of all -- >> thank you, madam chair person. i would say number one, i am extremely confident in our elections in colorado, even with all of this. and the first thing i would suggest is to make sure that all of you are using your platform to push out the message ignore the noise, find your trusted source of election information, to make a plan to vote, and if y

. >> thank you, madam chair. since march our nation's way of life has been disrupted due to covid-19. america's food system has been hit particularly hard. our favorite restaurants were closed, meat options were low at grocery stores and many essentials were sold out. today's hearing will provide much-needed context to these experiences because if we better understand why, we can better prepare for the future. the food system is geared to commercial demanding cafeterias, more than retail demand grocery stores. flipped for eating out to cooking at home businesses along the supply chain had to pivot to survive. the system didn't adjust quickly enough to repackage fresh produce, milk and meat originally prepared for commercial use. we made dramatic changes to our everyday lives. produces on the food supply chain quickly adopted new direct customer business models, new strategies, services such as online retail, require significant investments, time and money. recently i had the opportunity to spend some time in wayn

is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair. [inaudible] 75% in the span of a few weeks leaving it with unused product. with nearly two thirds, how many what assistance do you need from congress to help your business adapt? >> thank you and hopefully you can hear me okay. what needs to happen to make sure we have what we need, first that congress include distributors in the scope of relief to provide and agencies would do likewise formulating programs for the food industry. second, despite the fact that you have allocated $300 million to the industry they have been very slow to get the money to the recipients. congress packed the act at the end of march [inaudible] and the funds are still trickling in. finally additional funds if you could establish a firm deadline to do that and insists the agency meet those deadlines that would go a long way to helping the process and distributors. >> mr. wright. i was pleased to see that you mentioned the bill [inaudible] through the pandemic, food workers have been deemed essential but many

pallone: thank you, madam chair. the chair is now pleased to recognize the ranking member of the committee. >> good afternoon. thank you, madam chair. thank you to our witnesses for your fine testimony. stateclellan, some officials are expressing skepticism about potential covid-19 vaccines. saying their states plan to conduct their own investigation before distributing a vaccine. despite an approval or authorization from the fda, eu believe such reviews by a state would be necessary? has it been done before? ?re they equipped to do this have they done this on anything else fda approved? slows down access to fda approved vaccines to save lives. dr. mcclellan: i do have some concerns about it. we just talked about how expensive and how much resources go into the fda's process. the process that you all have supported for your implementation on a bipartisan basis of continued efforts to strengthen and improve the cosmetic act, which is meant to provide a high-level of confidence, safety and effectiveness of medical produ

. >> thank you, ranking member and thank you madam chair member -- madame chairwoman. the testimony today will involve the u.s. patent system. in this opening statement, i want to read the patent and copyright clause in the constitution. this clause was so un -controversial that it was accepted by all of those drafting and voting on the constitution unanimously and without debate. it says the united states congress shall have power to promote the progress of science by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive rights to their writings and discoveries. to some people who have not studied this issue too much, they think that perhaps patents is part of the reason drug prices are high. but the reality is on a lot of the drugs, the patents have expired and there is no restriction from the patent office to keep somebody from making generic versions of the drug, but there are other impediments not involved in patents that stop these generics from coming to market. i hope we find out what those are about. then i also want to say that our founding father

madam chair, that completes the queue. >> chair fewer: thank you very much.public comment is now closed. thank you, mr. decosta for reminding us of our inadequacies. and then i believe that we have a motion now to accept the amendment brought forth by the controller's office. and so i'd like to make a motion to accept those amendments. roll call vote, please. >> clerk: yes, on the motion to amend item number 4 [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chair fewer: i would like to make a motion move item 3 and 4 as amended to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> clerk: yes, on the motion [roll call] you have three ayes. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. madam clerk, please call item number 5. >> clerk: yes, item number 5, hearing to review the findings of the municipal bank task force and recommend implementation strategies to improve transparency, economic investment and local control in san francisco finances, and requesting the office of the treasurer and the tax collector to report. the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on

madam chair, that completes the queue. >> chair fewer: thank you very much.public comment is now closed. thank you, mr. decosta for reminding us of our inadequacies. and then i believe that we have a motion now to accept the amendment brought forth by the controller's office. and so i'd like to make a motion to accept those amendments. roll call vote, please. >> clerk: yes, on the motion to amend item number 4 [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chair fewer: i would like to make a motion move item 3 and 4 as amended to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> clerk: yes, on the motion [roll call] you have three ayes. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. madam clerk, please call item number 5. >> clerk: yes, item number 5, hearing to review the findings of the municipal bank task force and recommend implementation strategies to improve transparency, economic investment and local control in san francisco finances, and requesting the office of the treasurer and the tax collector to report. the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on

spano from florida. >> thank you, madam chair. the cares act set up an intricate web of oversight mechanisms utilizing pre-existing offices and creating new ones like the pandemic response accountability committee and the office of the special inspector general for pandemic recovery. my question is how do you offices contribute to the larger pandemic oversight system? if you could add to that first, shear. >> -- answer that. >> we have major responsibility in the cares act, and it was actually articulated to each of the affected agencies from letters from the comptroller general is first are bullet overseen cares act program broadly, and the need for us to report on a bimonthly generally a bimonthly basis to the congress on wide variety of issues. in contrast i would just say that we focus on issues just as my colleague mike where does getting with fraud risk and things of that nature but we deal with broader issues and we will do with integrity of the programs. so we do look at responsiveness. we have issued reports in june, augu

madam chair -- >> yes madam chair -- >> how many people are in the queue? >> we currently have two people in line. >> okay. i see that the advocates are asking to extend public comments to three minutes for all items. since we have on average two speakers for public comment on each item, i think i will grant that today. so please set the time for three minutes for each public speaker and we can start public comment now on item number three only. thank you. >> okay. thank you madam chair. can you send the first caller through please. >> hello commissioners, can you hear me? >> yes, we can. >> okay, good. eric brooks, california for energy choice and san francisco clean energy advocate. on the pcia fee, i mean it's great that we're asking for an extension on how long that's to be paid off, but really we got to get more -- the cities that are community choice cities need to go at war with the california public utilities on this. if we don't, then they're going to keep doing this to us until our community choice programs are dead. so we got to really declare wa

. >> thank you very much madame chair it's good to see my democratic colleagues i'm also disappointed my republican colleaguesay to not see the wisdom to participate in this conversation today but we will hear from the witnesses that we have and thank you to call witnesses for your testimony. and with theco gentleman thank you for all that you do. so to extend that conversation more about the misinformation subject, i think we touched on it a moment ago and it so critically important what initiatives are they utilizing to combat this misinformation and what resources of local citizens and counties? >> thank you congressman and i appreciate the question when we talk about trusted sources and the trusted info that is alll about getting people to the local election and official i mention the c.a.r.e.s. act funding we heard from a lot of states to use a portion of that funding working on voter education and that is a huge issue certainly to administer a different process to all the witnesses. we will see a record-setting with the absentee ballots. >> but the state has the need.ces that th

>> thank you madam chair. thank you so much jackson for all of your hard work on this over the summer. i also want to thank brian at the san francisco bicycle coalition for suggesting that the survey team asks the e-bike question in the survey. we had a decision discussion one day and he said it would be good to have this data. the department of environment has taken an interest in developing a pilot e-bike rebate program. to talk a little bit about that i am pleased to introduce suzanne. she is the clean cities coalition coordinator at the department of environment. suzanne. >> great, thank you brian and commissioners for the opportunity to speak with you. my name is suzanne. can you hear me? >> yes, we can. >> great. i'm from the department of the environment and along with m.t.a. and p.u.c., we're tasked with achieving the commitment to zero emissions transportation by 2040. that won't happen until we expand those modes. there is not a lot of data out there and what we found is that 30% to 50% of electric b

let's open up to public comment please. >> yes, madame chair. operation is checking to see if there are callers in the queue. operation, please let us know if there are callers ready. if you have not already done so, please press star 3 to be added to the queue. for those already on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted. let us know if there are any callers who wish to comment on item number 7. >> madame chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> supervisor fewer: okay. public comment is now closed on item 7. colleagues, any comments or questions? seeing none, let's move this to the full board with a positive recommendation. roll call vote, please. >> on the motion, supervisor walton? >> supervisor walton: aye. >> supervisor mandelman: aye. >> supervisor fewer: aye. >> your ayes are three ayes. >> supervisor fewer: thank you. call item number 8, >> yes, resolution authorizing the human services agency to apply for and september a county child welfare agency allocation for an amount not to exceed $459,000 for the

. >> thank you, madam chair. i do appreciate holding this hearing, although i am concerned by the fact that everybody keeps bringing up not to politicize it, the administration is politicizing and. that's exactly what this hearing is, we are politicizing it. me you constituent tell can tell when a natural disaster or a nationals disaster is serious is when republicans and democrats are both on the same page. when we start politicizing it, it becomes less series. that's exactly what we are doing here. we have members on this panel that are extremely biased towards the president. that alone drives down the confidence of the american people. do they really need it? is it really that serious? if you are in one of the vulnerable positions you need to get the vaccine when it's available, not worrying about if the president brought it out too fast. do we really think the pharmaceutical companies or the fda would allow that to happen? it is their name. they are the ones trying to get it to the american people to save liv

madam chair, i yield back. >> the vice chair of the committee. >> thank you so much. i want to follow up on something you said to the chairwoman maloney whenwh she asked about e cash slide. let's review the slide. it refers to it as i am quoting from the title, a cash cow. when chairwoman maloney asked about this, you downplayed it and said it was never sent to the board. do you stick with the assertion that your company doesn't act as a cash cow, yes or no? are you familiar with the term sin in -- synonym that refers to one word means the same asor another. with thatmiliar concept?t >> i am, yes. we obtained some e-mails and it's from the company executives and one of the corporate executives had a discussion about this exact term, and i quote, do we really want is a cash cow to the board, so then the companies officer responds wrote and i-mail he quote instead of cash cow i will replace it with prox profit maximizer were you trying to rip mislead the committee? >> let me put up the next slide. s this is the slide that was set and included in the final presentation p

>> clerk: yes, madam chair. [roll call] [inaudible] >> item 13 is a discussion and vote as to [inaudible]. >> yes. moderator, is there anyone on the line who would like to comment on item 13, which is our vote to invoke the attorney-client privilege and go into closed session? >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> so with that, directors, the floor is yours. >> clerk: madam chair, there should be a motion to vote for the attorney-client privilege. >> motion. >> is there a second? >> i'll second. [roll call] >> clerk: madam chair, it'll take us a moment to go into closed session. board members and those who are to go into closed session, please use the meeting link in your calendars. >>you. see you all in a kcouple minutes. >> directors? >> clerk: the board of directors met in closed session to discuss that the itemized [inaudible]. >> directors, what say you? >> motion to not disclose. >> second. >> secretary boomer, can you please call the roll? >> clerk: all right. [roll call] >> clerk: madam chai

thank you, madam chair. i yield back. >> thank you. the gentleman's time has expired and the gentleman yields back and now our chairwoman from new york, ms. velazquez is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you very much. mr. ware y would like to ask the same questions that i asked mr. shear, but because of technical difficulties, i was unable to ask the same question to you. an issue regarding the gao september report that shows 4,226 loans went to businesses with over 500 employees. so in your work, have you been able to examine whether or not sba has confirmed that businesses employ the number of employees stated in their application? >> have we confirmed this? >> yes. >> yes, our work has confirmed some of that did take place. the thing is i don't have the exact figures in front of me. i definitely could get you that, though. and i really see that looking at the screen that the request for that information already popped up. >> so several loans that were granted to companies with over 500 employees, not withstanding the rules that

madam chair, there are no calls in the queue. >> all right. with that, then, i'm going to close public comment on agenda item 8 and call agenda item 9, which is discussion and possibly action on items for future meetings. and before i invite commissioners to comment on whether or not they have items that they'd like on for future discussion, i'm going to read the notice to the public that if any member of the public intend to offer public comment for this item, they should dial in now and enter star, three to be added to the public comment queue. a queue, a -- queue, and i will take their public comment after i discuss with my fellow commissioners if there's any items they want to see in future meetings. commissioner bush, go ahead. >> thank you. i ask that a newspaper article from san francisco public press be circulated to the commission and be made available to the public, as well. it deals with incidences around the 2016 aleelection. it shows there was a meeting called together by the mayor and senior members of the board of supervisors wi