well, yeah i think madeline albright referred to him calling russia the number one foe. the various weird things that romney said his position on russia is truly out of date. >> yeah, those parts of the speech were from the height of the cold war, and apparently nobody told romney that the century changed. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: but as usual, and this goes to foreign and domestic policies you know, there is no specifics. again madeline albright said i just find him very shallow. i'm a professor if one of my students turned that in he would get a c because he gave absolutely no specifics. >> yeah it's a vacuous set of talking points. it's not even -- the dull phrase that you complain in poetry and govern in prose, it's not even particularly good poetry and when it comes to national security, the prose cost people lives if you do it wrong. and we have seen that over the last decade, quite frankly of our history, and he just comes up real short on the commander in chief test. he repeatedly tries taking the test, right? and he can't -- he can't muster anything better tha

it begins with former secretary of state madeline albright, whom i think most people consider across. and she talks about the difference in the level of experience between the two candidates. >> what we have in this campaign is a president who has four years of serious accomplishments with a vice president who has had vast experience over his entire lifetime. facing two people, governor romney, and congressman ryan who have zero experience in national security. >> bill: she is right, isn't she? >> yes, they have less experience than what has been seen for many years. and the question for governor romney to answer is why that doesn't matter and why he can make enough of an argument of why president obama and joe biden are not putting things on track with their record. >> bill: when you look at obama's record on foreign policy, how good it is? >> i'll let people judge that. what governor romney says is he has taken america from the role of prominence and leading than what he would like america to have. but president obama says there are more people aligned with the american vision than