i go to school at madonna university in michigan. >> where? >> madonna university.material girl. i am going to school for nursing and i have a lot of students who are going to school for pre-med or the sciences and don't you feel like it makes sense for somebody to go to school and learn basic human anatomy and all of these other classes it's sort of essential to a medical profession or even if you are going to study biology? >> image if you are going into surgery and you were given the choice of being operated on by someone fresh out of medical school or the nurse who has been watching for 20-years. i would rather have the nurse. there is background knowledge that is handy to have while you are operating on someone but the idea that all of that comes from the classroom i think should be changed we should spend a lot more time being practical in the real world. >> that makes sense but at the same time if you don't have that background knowledge and you just know what you do, sure you have been experiencing these things first hand but that doesn't mean you know what

>> i go to school in michigan at madonna university like the material girl. [laughter] i go to school for nursing some go to premed or sciences but don't you feel it makes sense to learn basic human anatomy that is thessential to a medical profession or even if you study biology? >> you are going into use surgery if you are fresh out of medical school or the bears watching 20 years? i would take the nurse. there is background and knowledge that is handy absolutely but the idea that mes from the classroom should be changed and we should spend more time being practical in the real world. >> that makes sense but if you don't have the background knowledge and you just know what you'd do by experiencing these firsthand that means you don't know how to fix your mistakes because he did and get the basic technical knowledge at school. >> my challenge is is the best way to sit in the classroom paying exorbitant amounts of money or could we get back more efficiently? john: ne person. >> ideas graduated from school in indiana but is the engineering degree in human studi

>> i go to school in michigan at madonna university like the material girl.laughter] i go to school for nursing some go to premed or sciences but don't you feel it makes sense to learn basic human anatomy that is the essential to a medical profession or even if you study biology? >> you are going into use surgery if you are fresh out of medical school or the bears watching 20 years? i would take the nurse. there is background and knowledge that is handy absolutely but the idea that comes from the classroom should be changed and we should spend more time being practical in the real world. >> that makes sense but if you don't have the background knowledge and you just know what you'd do by experiencing these firsthand that means you don't know how to fix your mistakes because he did and get the basic technical knowledge at school. >> my challenge is is the best way to sit in the classroom paying exorbitant amounts of money or could we get back more efficiently? john: next person. >> ideas graduated from school in indiana but is the engineering degree in human s

the extent we take it upon ourselves, the goal or the obligation to bring universal selfridge, make sure people can listen to madonna, bring about democratic elections. that is not our job. we are not good at doing it. we are good at building roads, crushing opposing armies. no government is good at the work of nationbuilding. [bell] >> we will alternate. tucker, you will go first. federal debt -- does it matter? we can simulate our way to prosperity. >> you are insane for suggesting it. it matters because i believe in math. here is what i know, which is saying i believe in science. you often hear we are for science. we do not believe in evolution. we are on the side of science. anybody who ignores the obvious point that if you expend more energy than you bring in, you die, whether you are a business, person, or country. the person who ignores that is against science. in the long run, a country that spends more than it raises cannot continue. it is a threat to this country. it is a threat to our economy. common sense confirms it. any belief in science tells me to believe that there is no bigger problem. [bell] >> le

the false obligation to bring universal sovereign two countries, to make sure people can listen to madonna, these are worthy goals. we are good at the big tasks. building roads, opposing armies. no one is as good at nation building, including ours. >> next question, and, tucker, you will go first. federal debt does not matter. we can stimulate our way to prosperity. >> you are insane for suggesting such a notion. i believe that that matters because i believe in math. here's what i know about math -- this is another way of saying i believe in science. you often hear the left lecture on science. we are on the side of science. anybody who ignores the obvious point that if you expend more energy than you bring in, you die, whether a business, person, or country. the person who ignores that is against science. in the long run, a country that spends more than it raises cannot continue. it is an existential threat to our country. that was established by economist after economist. common sense confirms it. the federal debt, there's a bigger problem. >> let me quote dick cheney, who said ronald rea