maggie haberman tweeting that the paperwork was signed at 11:30 p.m. bannon was on the outs with donald trump for the last few years of the presidency, having been so close to him early on, because of a book, but it seems like in the final hours, as donald trump is being shunned by the more establishment wings of the republican party, as mitch mcconnell is all but signaling that he may vote to convict him, donald trump is looking to some old allies that he needs close by to him. and steve bannon was certainly somebody who stood close by, even in hard times. one of the only aides to stick by him during the "access hollywood" tape drama. as many aides disappeared for many hours or days, or went

. >> every day we have a brand new administration, maggie haberman, so it's always busy. then you have an impeachment trial of a former president waiting at the same time. today, one of the things when we try to do this republican math, can they get to 17? that's a very steep hill, and i think you'd have to say it's unlikely at moment. this morning you would say rob portman, ohio. maybe. he's not a trump republican, but he's not running for re-election. is that a piece you look at in terms of your math, and i guess the question is, even so, is that enough? >> it's certainly good to look at in terms of your math, but i think they thought he was somebody who would vote along with mitt romney opposing things the president did, so i'm not clear why he goes on that because i don't know if rob portman is hanging up his spurs completely or whether he's possibly looking for another run. i don't know that, but it's possible. again, things can change, but right now the distance has been donald trump's friend, as you said. as time has gone on, people who are believed to be likely vo

this is the leader of the country who sat and watched, according to maggie haberman at "the new york times," with something closing to enthusiasm or delight as his crazed, extremist supporters were attacking the u.s. capitol. >> this is the most unsettling thing about this entire incident which is that we have a president of the united states who is psychologically unable or unwilling to protect the country in the ways that we expect our commander in chief to do. i think we all have to acknowledge that given the fact that this was a terror attack that was incited overtly by the president of the united states that he is in sympathy with the goals of the insurrection. the fact that we have not heard from leaders of government agencies about exactly what they are doing, that it's an incredibly frightening time. the best thing that we've got going for us was -- as jonathan indicated a moment ago, that everybody's eyes are now open after this incident last week, and law enforcement officials of good will around the country in the states and in washington, and i would include christopher w

cnn political analyst maggie haberman prbroke this story. she's a washington correspondent. the former president has a list of people he wants to punish now. who is on that list, and how will he do it? >> john, that's right. the former president, as we know, has often been focused on retribution and this moment in time is no exception, although he's taking a few months off or has told people he's taking a few months off to lay low. chief among those targets is governor ryan kemp of georgia. the president has considered the original sin kemp committed against him after trump helped him win to be picking senator kelly loeffler as the replacement for an open seat in georgia. the president wanted doug collins to be chosen. that did not happen. sen since then, the president has been blaming him and the secretary of state in georgia for not throwing the election has way. next up is liz cheney. congresswoman from wyoming and number three in house gop leadership. not clear what he'd like to see her lose, her seat or leadership position but he plans on doing what he can to try to imp

this report from jonathan martin and maggie haberman. quote, senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky, the republican leader, has told associates that he believes president trump committed impeachable offenses. and he's pleased that democrats are moving to impeach him. and he believes it will make it easier to purge trump from the party. mr. mcconnell has indicated that he wants to see the specific article of impeachment, the house is set to approve on wednesday, and he wants to hear the eventual arguments in the senate. but the senate republican leader has made clear in private discussions that he believes now is the moment to move on from the weakened lame duck president whom he blames for causing republicans to lose the senate. cnn adds this characterization about mcconnell's thinking. quote, mcconnell has made no commitments on voting to convict trump but his silence on impeachment has been deliberate as he leaves open the option of supporting impeachment conviction and removal from office. you'll remember that mitch mcconnell last time a

joining us now, cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. she's a white house correspondent for "the new york times." cnn political analyst david gregory. also with us, charles ramsey, the former police chief in washington, d.c. in his statement this morning, president trump continued to spread the lunatic, dangerous lies about the election. the lies that have incited the types of violence we saw, the insurrection at the capitol yesterday. he told the mob to walk to the capitol yesterday, so it raises the very serious question, is america safe for the next 13 days with him in office? cnn's reporting is, there are discussions among some cabinet members about invoking the 25th amendment. the tulsa world is reporting a conversation that mike pence had with senator jim inhofe, where inhofe says, quote, i've never seen pence as angry as he was. i had a long conversation with him, he said, after all the things i've done for trump. it would take vice presidential sign-off to invoke the 25th amendment. we've seen resignations overnight from senior s

joining us now, cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. she's a white house correspondent for "the new york times." and on that point, maggie, we saw the president in georgia last night. how much does the president and does this white house realize that this would be a pretty huge rebuke of him and have a political impact, i think, serious ripple effects, if the republicans were to lose these races. >> john, it depend on who you're talking to. happy new year to you guys. it depend on who you're talking to. there are people in the white house who certainly recognize if the republicans lose these seats or frankly even one of these seats, it's a huge problem for the president because, he would be seem as to blame. the president himself does not see it that way, which should not surprise you, because he is very good at abdicating responsibility and that has been a constant throughout his political and business career. he is not going to change how he's talking about any of this. i think if we see surprise results, i don't think we will see a wi

maggie haberman from "the new york times" reports that mr. trump directly pressed mr. pence to find an alternative from settering biden's win, like having the election be thrown to the house to decide. the main problem with that is the constitution that gives pence no power to do that. his job is to count out loud. so we have more piece of attempt evidence. steve cohen tells cnn, we are standing on the abyss of the destruction of our democracy. cnn's ryan young live in cobb county, georgia. this is one of the key counties in this state where the polls open shortly. ryan? >> reporter: absolutely. look. this has felt like a marathon. we're finally in that final sprint. on the way here, we saw tons of signs showing election momentum, but when you look back this direction, you can see poll workers are already starting to show up, 3 million people have early voted. a lot of eyes on the state of georgia. >> reporter: the stakes are high in georgia this morning with the control of the senate on the line. >> the whole country is watching us right now because we have the power.

joining us now is cnn presidential historian, tim and a halfal naftali, and maggie haberman, a white use reporter for "the new york times." she is at joint base andrews waiting for president trump's departure. maggie, you win. i start with you. you're outside in the elements. tell us about the -- >> i'm wearing a hood, i hope a win. >> oh, you do. >> tell us about this new day that is dawning and what's going to happen behind you? >> reporter: right behind us is a stage where president trump is expected to give remarks, somewhere between 15 to 20 minutes long some time after 8:00 a.m. when he leaves the white house for the final time. there is a set-up behind me in front of the stage where they have arranged barricades where crowds of spoupporters can come. you can hear behind me, there is a marching band drummer who is practicing. and then the president will leave and he will be alone without other republican figures, mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, they will not be on hand and mike pence, the vice president, they're going to the inauguration of joe biden. so you're going to have on

joining us now are cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. and her colleague, jonathan martin, broke the mcconnell story in "the new york times" and cnn political commentary scott jennings, who is a long-time campaign adviser to senator mitch mcconnell and can help us understand his thinking. great to have both of you here. maggie, tell us your reporting about where mcconnell is this morning on his thought process. >> sure, so jonathan martin and i reported yesterday that senator mitch mcconnell is pleased by the impeachment proceedings that democrats are moving ahead with. he is not whipping votes in one direction or the other. he wants to see how it plays out, but he believes this moment will make it easier to purge the party of donald trump. and again, he is not saying where he is. i just want to make that clear, but this is notably different than what we saw with mitch mcconnell in the last impeachment, where he held the line very firmly against witnesses. he was very much whipping votes in the president's support, i think, that mitch mcc

joining us now is cnn political analyst maggie haberman. i have to ask you about that reporting that you have focussed on. the lawmakers were calling president trump's cell phone for help begging for him to send backup or do something to save their lives while they were cowering and these domestic terrorists were ma rodding through the u.s. capitol and he was too busy watching tv to do anything. >> so i have slightly different reporting alisyn that we reported last week. it's not that he was too busy because he was so consumed, which he was. he was engaging with aides as this was all going on. they were interrupting, telling him he had to do something. they were interrupting telling him that the capitol was being overrun by his supporters. he was well aware of it and watching it. he was pleased because it was people fighting on his behalf. he was pleased because he liked the scene. he was pleased because it was delaying the certification of the electoral college vote. and those are the reasons why this happened. it wasn't just that the tv w

well, maggie haberman from "the new york times" reports mr. trump had directly pressed mr. pence to finding an alternative to certifying mr. biden's win, such as preventing him from having 270 electoral let's and let's the election be thrown to the house to decide. the big problem with that is the constitution that gives pence no power to do anything even close. his job is to count out loud. let's begin where the voting is under way in georgia, two senate seats up for grabs. cnn's ryan young live in cobb county with the very latest. ryan, what are you seeing? >> reporter: you just think about the energy behind all this, a lot of people who live here obviously are tired of all the political ads, the robocalls that have been coming in nonstop. if you think about this the president-elect was here yesterday and the president was here to try to make that final campaign push. there was a line this morning that wrapped around this building at 7:00 a.m. when they opened that door people flowed in very quickly to cast this vote. let's also not forget everyone is wearing the masks, t

i also want to read from maggie haberman who is the white house correspondent for "the new york times" and it is considered one of the best reporters covering the president, the president is known to call her and even express his views on things. so her reporting is spectacular. she writes that the president, sr. advisor says has lost it. he has been almost impossible to talk throughout the day today and has been watching the coverage of the capitol. what is leading everyone to this moment that the president has lost it today based on previous days? and that this is at a crisis point? >> that the president cannot or will not accept the reality of two things, his role in inciting this violence, this unprecedented historic assault on desecration of the united states capitol and understanding his responsibility and his ability to do something about it. there are two things there. not recognizing the reality that he incited it and he is to blame for it and therefore he is responsible as president of the united states to do something about it. he is creating a vacuum in both areas. awarene

and of course you may also note the apple doesn't fall far from the tree is amazing daughter is maggie haberman sure to have you the conversation so now we will turn it over to you. >> thank you very much. principally i am known as maggie's mother these days of my main point of identification. can i ask both of you first your thoughts about those terrible events we witness yesterday? certainly there are immediate consequences including demands that president trump step down or be tossed out under the management even though there's only 13 days left in his term. but beyond that, the long-term consequences for yesterday? senator? >> first let me sayay is privilege year and also with david when he first interested in additionhi to me when i was in the senate and in my view one of the very few left and tenacity and then select to bring the seriousness to the american people that's where we want to go today i will say a few comments from what we've seen recently. i think it's very regretful president after the way he has in r the last adjourned an election in georgia into a referendum and in terms o

that be maggie haberman and jonathan martin. i just spoke to mitch mcconnell's office. i spoke to kevin mccarthy directly. meanwhile, west virginia senator joe manchin calling impeachment "an ill-advised political ploy was cool. take a look. >> is there any scenario you see that the u.s. senate would try and convict president trump? >> i don't see any of that. i think the house should know that also. we've been trying to send that message over. they know the votes aren'tl there. i think this is so ill-advised for joe biden to be coming in trying to heal theom country, trying to be the president of all the people and we are going to be so divided and fight again. >> sean: good for senator joe manchin. might be the only democrat not hell-bent on vengeance and might be looking out for the best interest in our country. just to recap, political purposes are trying to censor opinions that they disagree with. they are demanding that companies not hire former white houseme staffers. they want to designate people that supported and audit them a ten day audit, domestic terrorists

. >> and real quick, harry, maggie haberman of the "new york times" is reporting that steve bannon is telling donald trump to represent himself in front of the senate. it may come to that. but is it a good idea? >> can you imagine? it's obviously the catastrophe of catastrophes. he very cunningly avoided saying anything on the record through the whole mueller probe, et cetera. the normal adage, someone who represents themselves has a fool for a client, applies in spades where donald trump is concerned. >> and again, if he is going to argue election fraud, which of course is not a defense, i mean, what can happen in the senate? can they bar that defense, declare it an improper argument? >> they can do whatever they want. we found this last week. it really is the law of the jungle there. they can say it's unconstitutional even though the senate has held otherwise. but wow, would that be a poke in the eye, even to his supporters. and who knows whether it would be flirting with an actual conviction? right now it seems relatively safe that the republicans hiding behind this constitutional

i don't know how many times maggie haberman reports that he's more upset about the pga turning down his club and going home and the pga not playing at his bedminster golf club. he is denying the medal of freedom that trump was set to give bill belichick on thursday. belichick said the tragic thing let to that decision. the president, has been permanently banned from twitter. listen to this exchange with fox news yesterday. >> with the social media crackdown, does he feel emasculated as he heads out of office? >> i wouldn't say emasculated. the person to feel emasculated is the president of the united states. >> i've heard a lot of pathetic things from this white house. this one really takes the cake. a big tough guy who incited a riot and then hid in the white house for five days and still refuses to take responsibility. he's the president of the united states. he's the most masculine -- come on, man, shut up. shut up! he is the biggest snowflake of them all, the biggest one! i don't want to hear about your feelings. give me facts and not feelings. why are you coddling his feelings all

maggie haberman tweeting that the paperwork was signed at 11:30 p.m. bannon was on the outs with donald trump for the last few years of the presidency, having been so close to him early on, because of a book, but it seems like in the final hours, as donald trump is being shunned by the more establishment wings of the republican party, as mitch mcconnell is all but signaling that he may vote to convict him, donald trump is looking to some old allies that he needs close by to him. and steve bannon was certainly somebody who stood close by, even in hard times. one of the only aides to stick by him during the "access hollywood" tape drama. as many aides disappeared for many hours or days, or went silent, steve bannon was inside trump tower with him. this is just one name we are so far seeing. welcome, everyone, i'm katy tur. it's midnight on the east coast. joining us, joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. we also have mike schmidt, of "the new york times," as well as peter baker. joyce, we'll start with you. if you are -- while you are

normally head straight to a commercial break, but there is this from "the new york times," from maggie habermans granted clemency to steve bannon. the president made the decision after a day of frantic efforts to sway his thinking, including from mr. bannon, who spoke to him by phone earlier on tuesday. the pardon was described as a preemptive move that would effectively wipe away the charges against mr. bannon should he be convicted. he may not be the only one with pardon language like that. in effect, to wipe away charges that have not yet been either brought or proven as we mentioned at the top of the broadcast, you may recall the bust by the feds. it was a large vessel off the coast of connecticut, bannon was caught up in it. and the gist of the allegation was that people were urged to give money, which would make it to the construction of the southern border wall with mexico, the allegation was that that money instead was funneled to personal use. it was the feds who were involved, there was this rather triumphant scene outside what i think was his initial court appearance, a lot of media

what is also sickening what we learned from cnn political analyst maggie haberman. she reports president trump is angry at the professional golf

correspondent dana bash and "new york times" white house correspondent and political analyst maggie habermandana, i want to begin with why your new reporting that capitol police had banned tours for january 6th, the day of the deadly riot, after democrats raised security concerns. you obtained a copy of that memo. tell us what it reveals. >> that's right. our colleague, annie grayer and ryan nobles obtained the copy of that memo. i've done reporting along with them about perhaps what the genesis is of rereleasing the guidelines for no tours in that memo. and the answer is, we talked to a lot of lawmakers who were very alarmed at seeing tours in and around the capitol in the days leading up to january 6th. and they were alarmed because there weren't supposed to be tours. there were not supposed to be any, not just for security reasons but also because of the pandemic. for one example, i talked to one lawmaker who saw a group of people, tourists perhaps, wearing maga attire, hats and other things. and this lawmaker went up to a capitol police officer and said why are they here? and why aren't

and as reporters like maggie haberman note she wasn't really interested in speaking with reporters. >ways feel like i could have done more, been more outspoken. maybe been more outspoken publicly. i didn't know all the consequences of all of these issues. >> so why didn't she? there is a pattern of miscalculation in many of trump's orbit have made. trying to stay in good greatses in public acting like a guardrail. perhaps with the doctor it was that, working alongside the president in private and affecting policy in the inside that kept her quiet? >> you did the -- >> exposure. >> i had very little exposure to president trump. >> all right. never mind that theory. whatever reason dr. birx had for going along with misinformation, only she really knows. her explanations are weak, woefully insufficient, an insult after more than 400 it,000 americans died. to scientists, birx is a cautionary tale about letting politics and power warp science until it is no longer science. that a doctor can spend 40 years building a reputation that garners respect being a champion of science and serving ot

accepting the election and denouncing the violence that was the report say from maggie haberman and others was enjoying watching the violence. and invoked the violence. what do you make of this little turn? >> look, this is a guy trying to save himself from getting impeached. i hope it doesn't work. if you can't impeach a president for calling for americans to attack the couple. which they did more successfully than 9/11 terrorists. what is impeachable? he's a dangerous guy. you have to get him out white house. somebody who can't tweet doesn't need nuclear codes. >> fair point. you have climb downs happening. rubio trying to say some misled you. somebody did. he wouldn't vote for impeachment but saying 25th amendment him. a lot of people running backwards now and cycling back. what in your view should be the consequences of yesterday? >> i'm fresh out of here ro capes for the people who at the 11th hour are trying to reject the trump policy. adam voted with trump 91% of the time. he knew fell well who trump was in 2016. he opted to vote tr him. he called saying people calling racism system

reed epstein and maggie haberman writes hit the way. overwhelming consensus among ohioans is that a trump-aligned candidate would be best positioned to win a primary and no potential candidate has a better claim to mr. trump's voter in the state than, wait for it, congressman jim jordan. back with us, two former republicans. consummate florida man, rick wilson, a veteran of the bush campaign of '88 and a slew of other races great and small. he is these days a daily beast columnist, author, notably a lincoln project co-founder which brings to us stewart stevens, a veteran george w. bush's and of mitt romney campaign. he is an author notably joined on with the lincoln project. welcome to you both. stewart, i would like to start with you and what i see is the ultimately sad story of rob portman. nicole wallace who knows him as you do, talked about this on her show this afternoon. at least the statement was proof of life. here's a guy who was republican classic and sold out to donald trump. an internationalist who took a dive on ukraine, an

maggie haberman at the "new york times" is reporting this is something steve bannon is encouraging him to do, saying he is the only one who can sell it. any chance this happens? >> ana, i wouldn't be surprised. he thought he was a doctor during covid issuing a prescription for lysol and clorox injection and now may think he is a lawyer. but it would be assanine for the then president to go before those that he incited the insurrection to harm, take hostage, or what have you, it would be assanine for him to be his own defense. it would be the circus of donald trump. he would be the ring leader center stage yet again. there's already trauma there. but at issue, going back to what was just said, there were 60 lawsuits, 60 lawsuits that were dismissed basically because there was no fraud. and he has no foundation for his claim of fraud. so if he goes there, as his own attorney, it will be a three ring circus and the question is, will those republicans that have been in support of him, will they still stand after he makes a fool of himself on capitol hill? >> nick, you mentioned how they co

and "the new york times" overnight, maggie haberman, reporting that as recently as, it was tuesday on air force one flying to texas and back, trump was walking around the plane telling people, i won, i won. air force one on tuesday during a trip to the southern border in alamo, texas, the president said to people traveling with him, i won. that's a problem, john. also a problem for him over the next several days is the cnn reporting that more pardons are very likely on the way. new pardons are very likely on the way. whether or not -- including possibly himself. the legal ramifications of that, there's time to talk about, but i think there are political implications as well in terms of the senate trial. the senate republicans will watch this very carefully. >> that's right. and, you know, the fact that the president would go around on air force one and say "i won" is an indication of his detachment from reality and his unfitness for office. that -- there isn't any question he lost the election. and if he cannot privately acknowledge that, that's an indication of how much is wrong with

jonathan martin and maggie haberman. tonight jonathan tweeted this. a senate republican aide tells me he thinks there were about 20 give or take republicans, meaning republican senators, who were open to a conviction of president trump. and that was before our story on mcconnell. and again, the story on mcconnell is that he is positively inclined toward this impeachment effort against the president. so i guess this is a live question. if the senate does vote -- the house is going to vote to impeach president trump tomorrow. that will happen. if there after the senate votes to convict president trump, if that happens while trump is still in office, the effect of the vote to convict him will be to remove him from office. vice president mike pence will become the next president of the united states. that will make joe biden the 47th, not the 46th president of the united states, even if mike pence only serves for five minutes. now, can a president be impeached after he's left office? arguable question, lots of legal scholars on both sides weighing in. but

"the new york times'" peter baker and maggie haberman report that trump initially resisted taping the video and agreed only after being pressed by his aides. according to the "times," quote, he appeared to suddenly realize he could face legal risk for prodding the mob, coming shortly after the chief federal prosecutor for washington left open the possibility of investigating the president for illegally inciting the attack. joining us now, co-founder of punch bowl news, john bresnahan. he was in the white house press gallery when it was evacuated and stayed through the night until the certification of joe biden's election victory. bres, as everyone calls you on capitol hill, it's great to have you on the show. you and i have talked many times over the years, but i think this is the first time we've ever had a conversation in this forum, so i really appreciate you getting up early with us. let's talk a little bit about what comes next here. we showed everyone what speaker pelosi said about the 25th amendment. clearly, something was going on behind the scenes to prompt president trump to

reporter maggie haberman at "the new york times" reporting that president trump has been told by advisers repeatedly that he has potential legal exposure over the violence by his supporters last week, which followed a speech in which he repeatedly called on them to fight for him. we're seeing dozens and dozens -- we're told there will be hundreds and hundreds of arrests and indictments of people for the violence in the capitol. what about the president inciting them to do it? whatever it is that the president is trying to head off, he is clearly now sort of pedaling as fast as he can tonight, reading a prepared script off the teleprompter prepared by the white house, in which he says, i want to be very clear, i unequivocally condemn the violence in washington last week. he's trying as hard as he can to seem very clear about that now, in retrospect, because it's very much in his interest for everybody to forget what he actually said that day, to set the crowd off and point them at the capitol to go do what they did. >> they rigged an election. they rigged it like they've never rigged an el

analysis from abby phillip and maggie haberman of the "new york times."gin with this effort by the house minority leader kevin mccarthy to stop this infighting among house republicans. do you think it will be successful? >> it seems unlikely that it will be successful. just given that kevin mccarthy is trying to balance two things at once, wanting to move his party forward but not wanting to lose the support of his membership and the leadership position he has. but what's happening in the rank and file of the gop is that those members have no doubt about what the future of the republican party is. they believe very firmly that it is with former president trump. and so you're seeing them really pushing back on people like liz cheney and those other ten republicans who voted for impeachment who are facing enormous backlash. and i don't think that that's going to change anytime soon. i think this is really a message being directed at kevin mccarthy, that the power lies with the trump base, not with him or any other establishment figures who might want to try

your colleague maggie haberman reported this morning that he kind of mulled representing himself so heoesn't have to pay these lawyers, but i don't think that's a particularly good idea, right? >> no, and i think what maggie said in the story is it doesn't look like he's seriously contemplating that. i mean, look, the problem for the president is that he doesn't really want a lawyer. he wants a lawyer ssh somebody to play a lawyer on tv. he wants somebody to go on tv and make these bogus claims for him and that's not frankly what he needs for his defense. look, these republican senators -- it's almost certain that the democrats won't get the needed vote, republican votes to actually convict him, but at least some of these republican senators are at least looking for an argument to be made, a legal argument to be made so that they can -- so that they can vote to acquit him, and the kind of -- i mean, you saw that, i think, 45 senators, almost all of the republican senators voted the other day to say that they thought that it was unconstitutional to hold a trial after the president has l

what is also sickening what we learned from cnn political analyst maggie haberman. she reports president trump is angry at the professional golf association for pulling the championship at his golf club than the process of impeachment, angrier by an order of magnitude. think about that. it may speak to something else beyond his greed and his grievance when deprived of a money-making toy, namely how little pressure and sense of responsibility the president is feeling right now. for wednesday's insurrection, an attack on the seat of our democracy. let's not pretend here, with five people dead, a nation traumatized and the fbi warning there could be more political violence to come, so far there has been no real reckoning. in fact, until this weekend when flags began flying at half staff at the white house and federal buildings, there wasn't even simple recognition that lives were lost in the attack let alone a reckoning with it. certainly not from the president. there were no daily briefings from the acting attorney general, whoever he is these days, for from the fbi d

the president, according to maggie haberman, our colleague and friend tweeted over the weekend that there than there would have been january 7th, absolutely 100% true and the president recognizes that. and listen, as anna and -- i know anna knows this, but i'm sure michael steele knows this as well, the base of the party is still with trump, 75%, 80%. so, you know, the political incentive to call the president out is nonexistent. stephanie, this is basic political calculus that's going on here, which is the voters are with the president, we're not going to win elections unless we have our base, and we have to be with trump, you know, we have to be with trump. >> what about the political calculus that trump will and has turned on everyone. he's threatening to start a third party and then he wasn't. are republicans actually listening to this? if he does start that third party that will crush them come 2024 in terms of splitting the vote. if he plans on starting a third party he could change his mind on any given day. he's never stood up to his word. >> one thing trump has proven over the la

we promote we understand advisors have been trying to cajole him but this is actually getting maggie haberman here in times like this tends to be the person with the inside white house sources so we should give credit where credit is due back in a moment of the new york times who is saying that sources are telling her that advisors have been trying to get him to say something for a very long time now people close to the white house several official and unofficial aides are trying without success to get the president to issue a stronger statement he's simply to do it he's been furious at pence for refusing to do something he doesn't have the power to do and that's that that adds on to report that we had was that before donald trump gave his address at the ellipse here at the white house around this morning local time so that i was 11 am local 28123600 g.m.t. but just before he went on mike pence finally told told. in a telephone call i am just not going to do what you are asking me to do consistently in the previous i was out at the speech at the ellipse all told him he was going to do. to dis

cnn political analyst maggie haberman says the president continues to tell advisers he won the election with less than 48 hours to go before he leaves office. that's according to aides she says in addition she reports that associates of the president tell her that he continues to rail against house republican leader kevin mccarthy who by the way has done serious damage to whatever reputation he had by lying so much for the president. but with donald trump, no amount of debasement is enough. he is according to maggie's reporting using the same vulgarity about mccarthy, a word sometimes used to refer to a cat beginning with a letter p, which he has also called the vice pres president. and as if on cue on this day, dedicated to dr. martin luther king's vehicle of healing but call for honest reckoning with what divides us, the first lady released a farewell video. >> in all circumstances, i ask every american to be an ambassador of be best. to focus on what unites us, to raise above what divides us, to always choose love over hatred, peace over violence, and others before yourself. >> so th

i referenced the report with maggie haberman about what donald trump is doing at mar-a-lago and one of your other colleagues summed it up best on twitter. thinking about revenge. tell me what's going on. >> he's playing a lot of golf and thinking about which republicans he is interested in taking out in the mid terms in 2022. and at the moment he's been focused on the georgia governor and secretary of state, trying to, thinking about ways to beat them in republican primaries. and he's also really interested in the congressman in ohio and michigan who voted for impeachment. now i think we can expect that the president's attention span doesn't necessarily linger on particular things for too long so we'll see how long that lasts. and we also know that things that involve a lot of money or work are not necessarily places to put a lot of degree of confidence that he'll follow through on. >> neal, on the question of whether this is going to bar donald trump from running for office again, the vote to convict him won't do that. they would have to take up a second vote after conviction which re

in the meantime, joining us is david chalian and maggie haberman. david, i want to put those pictures back up so people can see what joe biden is going to be gazing at from the west front of the u.s. capitol there. there it is at dark. you can see the flags lit up there. you know, it's so point yentd in a way no people. in a way joe biden is going to be staring into the abyss, david, both literally and figuratively. yes, american flags instead of people there, but it's just such a moment. i have to believe not the moment that joe biden ever thought about in the 36 plus years that he's been running for president on and off. >> yeah. we forget that this is his third -- this was his third attempt at the presidency. 50-year career basically in washington, d.c. and, of course, there's nothing, there's nothing about this election in 2020, nothing about this transition and nothing about the inauguration tomorrow that is as joe biden would have envisioned it, but this is the moment that he is now being asked to meet by the country. and you hear about how he

on his tweets was mike pence can stop this and when we get the impression we're now getting it maggie haberman of new york times always has rather an insider information beyond anyone really in some ways you know the trump whisperer she says basically just before trump got on stage at the on the ellipse at the ellipse for his for his speech he was in for mike pence phoned him and said i am not going to do what you're asking me to do i'm going to stick to the constitution and i'm going to certify the results as they come in if they also defy bill which they all clearly and trump was very angry about this he was fuming he went on stage he gave his speech he consulted his his his his supporters to the capital which he was going to do anyway and so even suggested that he was going to join them which he didn't do and then went back to his office in the oval office where he has right now and continued to fume and refused to to have to denounce the protests that were underway in the capital until often are also 45 minutes or so in the when we saw the getting the tweets where he was suggesting the peo

yeah, principally i'm known as maggie haberman's father these days. before we explore the issue of working class americans, can i ask both of you about your thoughts of the terrible events yesterday. there is certainly immediate consequences including command that's step down or face being tossed out under the 25th amendment even though he only has, what, 13 days left in his term. but what are the long-term consequences for what we witnessed yesterday? senator, i'll throw it to you first, if i can. >> first up, let me say it is a real privilege to be here with you, clyde, and you, david. he has been one of the few that had the tenacity to bring the seriousness of this issue to the american people. that's really where we want to go today. i will say a few comments about what we have seen very recently. i think it is very regretful that the president has acted the way he has in the last month. he basically turned an election in georgia into a referendum on him and his complaints. in terms of the event yesterday, i think it is very regretful. the speech

you, maggie haberman, and your colleagues have been doing some reporting.ncern is there among his daughter, son-in-law, folks around him, who would like to have a commercial future, who would like to have a political future, that mitch mcconnell, the most powerful republican in the senate, completely indifferent, bordering enthusiastic on a conviction? >> the contrast between his position now versus where it was a year or so ago, is rather striking. he said nothing will happen on my part that he hasn't coordinated with the white house counsel's office. this time around hide id said, i'm not sure, but he's open to that idea, radically different stance for the senate republican leader who work so likely. now, around the former white house, the trump team, i think what's important to the president is he just retained a lawyer, someone recommended by lindsey graham, because his previous lawyers do not want to have anything to do with him. he hasn't said anything in public since he left office. of course he doesn't have his twitter accounts to give us his though

. >> okay, that was maggie haberman who did that story. ybody a dollar that that story is accurate. maggie does not make mistakes. and they're going to go back to indiana high. that's what's going to happen. this whole thing is falling apart right in front of our eyes, and it's just fun to watch. it really is. i'm immensely enjoying watching this entire melt down. and these two people are going to do our country great in washington. and, you know, we're going to move ahead, and trump lost and pence knows it, and everybody knows it. and i seriously doubt maggie's story is wrong, seriously. >> james carville, our thanks as always for joining us. great to hear your voice. great to talk to you along the way. >>> another break for us. when we come back, back to steve kornacki. at the board we go because the only thing we know about a night like this is every minute we're not looking at the board there's little incremental number changes. there's one for you right now. we'll dive back in when we come right back. when we come right back you can't

maggie haberman of "the new york times" reported that teleprompter was set up and then taken down, and that was the indication we were going to have a president off the top of his head for his last public utterance. of course, he remains president for the next three hours. >> yes, and brian, donald trump, as you said, spoke about the virus in the past tense and really only in the sense that he gave himself credit for the vaccine. he didn't talk about just going through what he was supposed to say, and he did veer off of his remarks, there was no word of comfort for the 400,000 families who have lost someone to this virus. there was no word of compassion for them, for those who are suffering, the 22 million, 23 million americans who are suffering right now. there was no -- you know, he said we did our best. no one could have worked harder. this is a man who played golf and spent more time playing golf and tweeting than he did being president. the one of the things that i found really remarkable in the remarks he was supposed to give, he talked about our movement, our movement. and that

maggie haberman reported sunday that in the last 24 hours after floating by a few folks that he was thinkingf starting a third party, he has made it will he is not pursuing at. she goes on to report that trump believes there are fewer votes to convict. she writes, "there is also the fact that threatening a third party while threatening primaries makes no sense. jason miller, aid to the former president put out on twitter on sunday the president has made clear his goal is to win back the house and senate for republican in 2022. there is nothing actively being planned outside of -- planned regarding on effort outside of that, but it is completely up to the republican senators this is something that becomes more serious." chuck schumer, democrat of new york yesterday had this to say about republicans -- their concerns over going forward with an impeachment. [video clip] >> it is so obviously wrong to suggest that impeaching a former president is unconstitutional so why are some suggesting it? there seems to be a desire on the right to avoid passing judgment one way or another on former trump an

-- this is not in any way to demean the reporting of my two colleagues, two great colleagues, maggie habermanhe mcconnell people wanted that message out. that's a purpose pitch in the language of baseball. that's mitch mcconnell saying i'm done with donald trump. what's important about both of those things is that it always comes back to self interest with mitch mcconnell. it's always about how to get back in power. how does mitch mcconnell get back in power in two years? and what mitch mcconnell announced yesterday is that his route back to power and his view for the republican party to get back into power is to take this opportunity and, as donald trump lies wounded and weakened by what he did over the course of the last several months and particularly what happened last week, this is the moment to strike at the fallen king. and behead him. that's what mitch mcconnell is moving to do right now. he's saying this is our chance to get rid of donald trump and forget about the debate of whether what donald trump role will be in the republican party, trumpist party, is it not? we'll still have to