makary: i think it's interesting. i think it's fascinating that the mechanism of action makes sense. they would be a benefit. i don't think the most promising medications are the ones we've heard about in the media. i think there's a whole bunch of other ones out there, and i think they are going through this long, tedious fda process, which is a peacetime protocol to approve beds. we are at a time of war. where we doing these trials where one person gets a small dose, then three people get a small dose? each interval has weeks of separation, so it takes two months just to the basic safety feasibility studies when we know most proteins are safe. 99.9% of vaccines are safe. the flu shot every year is safe. >> melissa: al all right, nine states remain holdouts amid calls for a nationwide stay-at-home order to help fight the pandemic. whether such a move is necessary as we continue battling the virus. >> is important to us dominic understand that most people across the country doing the right thing. over 90% of the count

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marty makary. he's a physician and professor at johns hopkins university and he is a fox medical contributor. dr. makary, let me start with you. when the president talks about the health impact of these staggering economic numbers, he is talking about depression, drug addiction, alcoholism. how big of a threat do you think that is? >> dr. makary: well, there's no doubt, one of the greatest indicators of health is a strong socioeconomic status. we see that all over. you know, i think we are seeing a lot of encouraging numbers are now. specifically, i see you admissions and intubation's are down. we have to remember, last week was the deadliest week in modern american history. on behalf of health care workers, think you for taking precautions. because you helped us. some parts of the country are still getting hammered in the icus and emergency rooms. we have to keep all of that in mind, as we think about the path to getting back to work right now. >> melissa: absolutely. emily, one of the biggest con

makary? >> dr. makary: well, there is some good and bad outcomes.irst of all, about 15% of patients who are critically ill will have some kind of lung scarring or some lung damage. although it has a minimal impact on the regular health outcomes. we will probably see thousands of lives saved every year for the next 20 years plus because of better social distancing and better hygiene. we doctors have been talking about this, like following the speed limit, and people didn't believe us for years. now we have seen an adoption. it will save thousands of lives each year, i think, from the regular flu season. >> harris: all right, i took notes on that. the good and the bad. of course, dr. saphier, i would just hope that we wouldn't ever have to remind people to wash their hands again. that is so old school, but it seems to be the focal point. bonnie a asks this question. i will go to dr. saphier on this. "please clarify the difference between having an autoimmune condition and being immunocompromised. are those with autoimmune disorders at higher risk?" do

makary, let me start with you.ou think it is to produce evidence that china concealed evidence of the outbreak and denied it and obfuscated what was really going on? >> dr. makary: china will have to purchase paid in the investigation, melissa. which i'm concerned they would agree to. the pieces of the puzzle fit. the doctor who initially sounded the alarm in december died soon after he posted thinks on their social media platform. he was 34. how do you die from coronavirus at 34? it's possible. his number two doctor has been missing since early april. so they have to explain these things. the reason this is important is because right now there is a race to a vaccine. china is further along than we are. if they get there first, they may immunize their entire country, hold the supply chains and manufacture the vaccine for them before they share it with the world. so this is an important questi question. >> melissa: can i ask you a follow up on that? if they get there first, that doesn't preclude us from coming up wi

marty makary, physician and professor at johns hopkins university and fox news medical contributor. he, as we say, is "outnumbered." great to see all of you today. there is a lot of heated discussion going on across the country, and, katie, i'm going to sit with you about this whole process of "open, don't open?" >> katie: well, we all know that one-size-fits-all policies are not going to work for everybody. that is why the white house has deferred to the states with the three-phase program. they don't believe georgia is meeting the mark. i found what the governor said about giving business owners the benefit of the doubt when it comes to managing this reopening interesting. i think businesses have an incentive to do this as safely as possible. they also know there's a

marty makary, thanks for being here. i want to play the sound bite from dr. fauci earlier today about remdesivir. >> it has a clear-cut, significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recove recovery. although it's 31% improvement, it doesn't seem like a knockout hundred%, it is a very important proof of concept because what it has proven is that a drug can block this virus. >> bret: this sounds like good news, why is this significant? >> this was a study we are not expecting the results of until later in may but one of the scheduled analyses done for ethical purposes, it was found that the average number of hospital days went from 15 to 11, that's the 31% reduction. there was reduction in death rate from 11.6% down to 8% but

marty makary, professor of public health at johns hopkins university, also fox news contributor. we appreciate your time. dr. siegel, i want to start with you. face coverings. obviously not ever been in, because we need to give those to as many health care workers as possible. face coverings, the president mentioned a scarf. the doctor on the virtual cows last hour said make sure you wash whatever you use. your thoughts, dr. siegel? >> dr. siegel: well, dr. fauci -- this is an evolving situation. dr. fauci is talking about an article, a study that was just published in "nature medicine," one of our top journals. it referred to the idea, the fact that you are literally spewing this virus. respiratory droplets still, harris, but you are spewing it even when you speak and much more easily than we had realized. we are realizing how highly contagious this is. to see him move on this, it's clearly something we have to move on, as well. i have a concern, though, about

doctors makary >> dr. makary: that's a tough one.rajectory, and the end of april is about a week and a half away. the thing i'm most concerned about are those at risk. we know it's hard for this virus to hurt somebody young and healthy, which is why the most exciting part of the road map to get back to work that we saw yesterday was a distinction between those who are vulnerable and those who are not vulnerable. i think that is the key part of this whole management. >> harris: all right. we've had a lot this hour, gentlemen. i will have to bring it back on a different day. but i appreciate your thoughts on remdesivir and kind of the arc if we were going with treatment for that vaccine, dr. siegel, you've told us time and time again, is not the silver bullet that will appear on the horizon by saturday. so we will need something in the gap. thank you, gentlemen, so much for joining me this hour. thank you for watching this week with all the breaking news here on "outnumbered overtime." let's scoot for to the commercial break. "the dail

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makary say.here are other drugs out there that might also offer a lot of promise. >> harris: one thing that dr. makary and others have told me as well, bret, and probably mentioning this to you come too, you try to figure out in the gap of now and coming up with a vaccine with the treatment can look like. that's the process via the fda. you heard makary say it last hour. it's not forgiving to this process because it was created for peace time, and many of the doctors and medical professionals say this is not peacetime. >> bret: i think this fda's getting more aggressive on its approval process, trying to get things in the pipeline. obviously the backstops of that, harris, is safety. you have to make sure it's safe before you sign off on it. a number of these drugs are used, as you know, for other things. so this is off label usage. it is a per-doctor prescribing to a patient as of now. >> harris: that's a good point, too. i know other patients, lupus patients that have been mentioned, seeing thei

marty makary. dr. makary.king about reopening the country, but this model shows a majority of states are going to really reach their peak over the summer. what do you think about that timeline? >> well, it's very interesting, carley. you know, this model from the university of texas at austin looked at cell phone data to actually figure out whether or not people were practicing true social distancing. and using that information, they tried to calculate when the peak is going to be coming around. it's interesting. even though the country engaged in different official government policies at different times, the peak has been relatively harmonious. that is, we've not seen the staggering of peaks over the course of two months as the models have predicted. we've seen things that at least the increase in hospitalizations, the increase in icu stays and the increase in deaths arrest relatively around the same time nationally. and so it's interesting to see whether or not this model that predicts early peaking in seven

marty makary, i have to leave it there, unfortunately on an ominous note, but people need to take iteriously. >> the thanks, arthel. eric: ominous, but, you know, that's great advice. just stay home for a while. just stay home. well, the emergency call is for 45,000 here in new york city alone, retired doctors and nurses and technicians being called back into service during this pandemic. coming up, where we stand on the forces facing the virus across the country as a grateful nation keeps our medical workers in our hearts and prayers. ♪ ♪ i love rakuten, it's basically free money. it's an easy way to earn cashback on the stuff i'm already buying. when you have a child and they're constantly growing out of clothing, earning cashback from rakuten just makes everything easier. sometimes it's 3% sometimes it's 8% but you're always getting cashback. the way cashback works on rakuten is so they get a commission from the store and then they share that commission with me. and you have money, more money to spend because you got free money. go to rakuten.com and sign up today for a $10 bonus.

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marty makary and the rest of the virtual couch. we are back here at noon eastern tomorrow. "outnumbered overtime" with harris starts right now. ♪ >> harris: well, there are new details on a propaganda battle going on amid the coronavirus pandemic. you're watching "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. u.s. officials telling fox news that three nations -- china, russia, and iran -- are pushing a similar disinformation narrative about covid-19 and the united states. they are focused on lying and saying the u.s. is negligent and they are pushing conspiracy theories about the virus and how it originated, claiming it is severely damaging the u.s. economy. all of this, and more. "the new york times" is reporting china helped spread false claims on social media and in text messages during the height of the outbreak last month. "the amplification techniques are alarming to officials, because the disinformation showed up as text messages on many americans' cell phones. a tactic that several of the officials said they had not seen before." that's also something secretary of sta

makary, great to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> dr. marty makary. stay with us, we will be right back. - [narrator] soon, lights will come on. soon, people will be walking back through your door. soon, life will move forward. we'll welcome back old colleagues, get to know new ones some things may change, but we'll still be here, right here, so you can work on the business of getting your business back. at paycom, our focus will always be you and we'll see you soon. maria: welcome back. small businesses in america are still reeling from the coronavirus lockdowns. more than 250,000 stores selling nonessential merchandise have been closed since mid-march. analysts say that as many as 15,000 retail stores are likely to close permanently this year as a result of the lockdown. my next guest is one defiant business owner, opening his doors to shoppers. joining me on the phone is peter elliot's owner, elliot rabin, thank you very much for joining us. tell us about your reopening. what are you expecting? >> well, good morning, ma'am, i want to thank you all

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