and that's where i agree with senator manchin. the fact is this is not our war to fight. isis gets big and if they hold territory, they're a danger the to the united states just as al qaeda had a homeland in afghanistan, we can't afford to have terrorists dominated by an isis cult. so we do have to defend ourselves and bombing them in both syria and iraq is such a defense and joe is right, though, boots on the ground alienates people and he's right in saying if people are not willing to defend themselves we cannot win that war. >> what about the reauthorization of military force and the fact that the president and his emsears have said we're for that and kicking it it back to congress. >> he should be, only because congress is incompetent and incapable of doing that, name anything of substance that congress has done. >> they're doing something substantive today. >> harry reid -- they have to keep the government alive because otherwise the republicans will lose the election. harry reid is doing the right thing and he's bundling it up because he doesn't trust the republican

i believe west virginia democratic senator joe manchin is speaking out. senator manchin funding. he opposes paying to train and arm the syrian rebels. he's worried the weapons we give to them could end up used ultimately against u.s. troops. let's listen to what he says. >> i am not confident that we know who our allies are. and to illustrate that point, i refer my colleagues to press reports that moderate syrian opposition forces sold american journalist steven sotloff to isis who beheaded him and put the bid is video on the internet. are those people our allies? who are other allies in this fight? as of today, we have only hints of military support from arab countries who themselves face a greater threat from isis than any one of us. madam president, syria's neighbors have the technical ability and the financial resources to support and train the syrian opposition forces. if that is correct course of action that we should take, they have the wherewithal to do it. in the 1991 iraq war, we had commitments from our allies around the world but most importantly from the arab communi

i'm not surprise bid remarks from joe manchin. spoke with him about the wars in iraq and afghanistan. he's a pretty anti-war democrat as far as one who thinks that u.s. treasures should be spent at home rather than abroad. overall it looks like the measure is going to pass the house of representatives and go on to the united states senate. and, of course, getting house votes has not been the easiest thing. there seems to be the majority to be able to do so. >> let's talk about the president's comments. we're expecting here in about 20 minutes. maybe even less. he's in tampa at centcom. some interesti ining points wer brought up we could hear from the president especially comments from dempsey that it would be an option to put ground troops on the ground. if you look at total and overall strategy. >> that's right, tamron. yesterday joint chief chairman dempsey opened the door slightly to u.s. ground troops the u.s. strategy in iraq and syria does not succeed. i think one of the questions is was it just a dutiful general going over

for better or worst, joe manchin's ad was a way that he distinguished himself as anti obama.that case, on cap and trade. >> we better hope that president obama doesn't go skeet shooting any time soon. he better not start cast traiting hogs any time soon. to talk about the enemy at the gates, if you will. north carolina, kay hagan is up against tom till list four points. in some part this seems to be a mid term election that is about sort of who is less popular, republican state houses, tom tillis who has shepherded through a raft of conservative legislation or president obama and alison lundergan grimes doesn't have the benefit that tom tillis has. who do you think makes out as the eviller enemy so to say? >> it's tough. it's basically remained the same the past couple of months, where you have a better than 50% chance of the republicans taking over the senate. i think you are right. i think it's obama's lack of republican, versus the republican brand's lack of popularity. with mitch mcconnell, that's the republican congress, and so the question where does it outweigh the oth

where potentially everyone involved is our enemy. >> senator manchin will join me in just a moment. president obama visited macdill air force base to renew his pledge not to deploy american combat troops. >> i want to be clear, the american forces that have been deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission. they will support iraqi forces on the ground as they fight for their own country against these terrorists. as your commander in chief, i will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> that sentiment was echoed by john kerry. also today at a hearing before the senate foreign relations committee. >> i want to be clear -- the u.s. troops that have been deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission. instead, they will support iraq forces on the ground as they fight for their country against these terrorists. >> just a few hours after the president's speech, the white house press secretary told reporters the door might still be open to forward deploying u.s. military advisers with iraqi combat troops, somethin

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general marks, is senator manchin right?ll, he is doing down the right path, because the point of arming the syrian rebels is how to segregate the good from the bad. and the alliances in that part of the world shift all of the time. so hard does not mean it is impossible. also, bear in mind, there are three elements that we are talking about, the syrian elements and the peshmerga and the iraqi security forces, and all of those together create a strategy that allows us to at least move forward with isis. all of them have their own challenges, and we know that. but if we do nothing, we stand to kind of stand by and watch this thing just get worse and worse over time. so it is a matter of acting right now, but i agree that the syrian rebel piece is extremely difficult. >> yes. so let's say that we put this strategy in play, and rhian, what does a win look like for the united states? >> well, the ultimate problem is that you need a mod cat syrian opposition force that can win and hold territory. i don't think that this strategy

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a lot of skepticism, especially by joe manchin. what do we expect today?from west virginia, a state with a very high population of those in the armed forces and of veterans. he's really echoing among

a lot of skepticism, especially by joe manchin. what do we expect today? >> reporter: joe manchin from west virginia, a state with a very high population of those in the armed forces and of veterans. he's really echoing among democrats, not unique but there are democrats stepping forward to say they do not want to see another commitment of the u.s. military in a way that might not have the kind of control that one would hope. that's one of the problems. the iraq war went in directions people didn't anticipate. there's a great skepticism and even fear about what would happen if the u.s. has to escalate in a war against isis or isil, as the president refers to it. so, what do we have? we have nancy pelosi, a progressive democrat say she has a lot of concerns about this but will vote to support the president's idea. it happens this afternoon on the house side, where they will be the first to really commit to what the president has asked for. this authority to train syrian vetted fighters. one question is how vetted are they? that would be a program that would

from west virginia, and certainly senator manchin, mr. president, is recognized as one of the leaders in the senate on important energy issues, so i'm very appreciative of having him join me on this legislation as well. i'm introducing it now, this is the sixth anniversary of the application by transcanada for a permit to approve the keystone x.l. pipeline. they applied for approval of a pipeline project, the keystone x.l. pipeline project six years ago as of friday this week. can you imagine that? you know, americans fought and won world war ii in less time than this application has been pending before the president of the united states, yet still no decision from this administration after six years. and this is vital infrastructure we need to truly make this country energy secure. working with canada, we can truly produce more energy than we consume and make our country energy secure, but we cannot do it without the necessary infrastructure, the roads, the pipelines, the rail, the infrastructure, the transmission lines, the energy infra

politburo manchin: madam president, i ask that the quorum call be vitiated.the presiding officer: without objection. mr. manchin: madam president, i ask to speak for up to 15 minutes or until my remarks are complete. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. manchin: madam president, i rise today to discuss the gravest and most important issue that we can debate in congress. i'm here today to talk about america's involvement in the middle east and president obama's plan to defeat isis. and make no mistake, madam president, we must defeat and destroy isis. but how we destroy them is what we must get right. i applaud the president for presenting a plan to the american people. i support air strikes against isis. i support providing humanitarian aid. i support cutting off terrorist funding sources. doing these things has already helped prevent genocide and has begun to roll back isis's gains in iraq. i also support engaging the world community, but most importantly turkey and arab league nations. unfortunately, i have not seen signs from the region that tell

here's senator manchin. >> i'm not confident that we know who our allies are.te that point, i refer my colleagues to press reports from moderate syrian opposition forces sold american journalists steve sotloff to isis, who beheaded him and put the video on internet. are those people are allies? >> that's a hell of an accusation. i know from another journalist that there was another group that had steve sotloff, they had him, they were going to trade him, then they sold him apparently to isis who didn't want to sell. they just wanted to kill him. >> yeah, there are a lot of these smaller militias inside syria. a lot of folks think there's a few groups, isis, this free syrian army. there's al nusra, but there are dozens, if not hundreds of militias, that are defending this hometown in the context of this battle with the syrian government and their allegiance on any given day is up for grabs, sometimes perhaps to the highest bidder available. they'll make agreements with different groups each day. so to think the u.s. can keep its hands clean and get everybody to

yesterday, talking about the plan for isis is senator joe manchin, democrat of west virginia.talks to civic leave out treating moderate syrian rebels. [video clip] refer my colleagues to press reports that moderate syrian opposition forces and sold american journalists, to isis, whof, beheaded him and put it on the internet. are those people our allies? who are our other allies in this flight. as of today, we have only hints of military support from arab countries. who themselves face a greater threat from ices than anyone of us. neighbors have the technical ability and the financial resources to support and train the syrian opposition forces. if that is correct course of action we should take, they have the wherewithal to do it. for: (202) 585-3880 democrats, (202) 585-3881 for republicans, (202) 585-3882 for independents. up next is james from virginia, republican line. hi. caller: good morning. obama has shown himself to be a very weak leader. he shows himself to be drawing a line in the sand. his bluff has been called. now he has some tough decisions to make, and the quest

. >> joining begich and bucking the administration and party leadership are joe manchin, and chris murphy, two democratic snores outspoken in opposition to arming the rebels. jonah, i have to say it is fascinating to see republicans, democrats coming together uniting against what the president is doing and republicans and democrats coming together in support. the fault lines are very fascinating. >> the fault line runs between both parties. you have a hawkish wing of the republican party these days and you have a hawkish wing of the democratic party. i don't know why democrats wouldn't have trouble with the president's plan. i don't know why republican was have trouble with the president's plan is not great. the president's idea of good strategy on foreign policy last five years that is anything that competentes people to stop bothering him about foreign policy. this strikes me very politically driven, a political response to a national security problem. so i'm in favor of much bigger and more robust debate on capitol hill on all side. >> kirsten, what about the democrats? one of the memb

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senator manchin went screaming to me become i've been betrayed. nra has done a 180. we almost had this bill in the bag. we had no idea what was going on. we came so close. so piers morgan, wherever you are, if you're listening to an nsa monitor, we love you. [applause] >> one of the things that eric cantor did to get -- we're still not sure where out of the words -- the woods with this is he has been pushing amnesty but and if he does that, it's the end of the republican party at march more important it's the end of our republic. i speak spanish but i'm in a hispanic church and i know what i'm talking about. these are 85% democrats and when you vote democrat, you vote for gun control. eric cantor seems to think immigration is going to win the hearts and minds. i've got news for you, eric cantor. that's not going to happen. not in the near run but it will take a lot of work through churches and other entities where these folks who work one on one, and the idea that you pass some bill to give them a vote, they're going to say thanks, but no thanks. it's just that simpl

not just among democrats like senator joe manchin, but also republicans as house republicans in particular there's a lot of questions today and will be early next week as well as both chambers take up this vote. there's a lot of questions in particular about strategy in syria. i expect congress to approve the wishes with regard to military action once more details have been released about the syrian strategy. >> quickly, yesterday you reported a threat on the resolution that funds the government. what's going on with that? >> all about syria and whether or not the vote should be wrapped into the stopgap measure. no one anticipated the shutdown. we will see whether or not syria will be lumped into a budget. >> thank you, kevin. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >>> just ahead, one of the hottest festival tickets around. money won't get you in. find out what will, next. ty exps who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. want to feel nature's energy? learn to see it through a different set of eyes listen to its soun

now to capitol hill and democratic senator joe manchin of the armed services committee. senator, it's always great to have you. thank you so much for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> you saw the speech last night. did the president answer all of your questions? are you ready to vote for more resources? >> first of all, it was a powerful speech. one i haven't seen him give since he's been president. i was very pleased with that. he laid out a directional plan, and that was very pleasing also. now, once we get into the details, i'll know at 4:00 here very shortly more of what's inside of that. i have a problem with one part, one part mainly. that is training and arming syrian rebels that we're not sure are our friends. i asked the question, why can't the saudis, why can't the arab nations that -- it's in their backyard. why can't they do that? they have the resources, they have the expertise, it's to their best interest also. we can give the technical air support, the tactical -- we can do all the things that we're very, very good at. and we're not good at putting tr

joe manchin, for example, democrat from west virginia, not because he doesn't want to -- not because he wants to shut down the government but because he doesn't like this idea of arming and training the rebels. it's complicating things and, you know, it's not unusual for this kind of legislative game playing to go on, but on this kind of matter, it is maybe a little bit surprising. >> yeah. it's not exactly a profile and courage these senators are showing refusing to allow a simple roll call vote, up or down vote, do you support $500 million to arm and train these moderate syrian rebels. just vote on that, yea or ney, but they're refusing to even do that. they're tying it into shutting down the government or keeping the government operating which is pretty -- i guess it's a pretty awful situation up there. as you point out we should not be surprised. this has happened often in the past. >> if i may add one thing, not just that, then there's a the broader question about authorization for the broader mission, which even senator reid said that they are going to work on an authorization

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here is senator joe manchin with msnbc's chris hayes. >> we'll give them the air support. i'm all for that. this doesn't make any sense for us to go in and embolden them, the isis, and use it as a recruiting tool against us. >> the navy has released video showing different aircraft supporting strikes, surveillance and reconnaissance missions over iraq. this comes after isis posted a propaganda video flames of war, a new warning to american forces. nbc's tracie potts is in washington. tracie, what is expected to be the outcome from the senate today? >> reporter: well, if it is like the house, this measure will get bipartisan support, because despite the fact that there is opposition out there, a significant number of, majority of democrats and republicans thought, no, this isn't the ideal way to deal with the situation, but it may be the best way to change what is happening on the ground. this morning, the iraqis say they're gaining ground against isis, taking back parts of hadithah province. fallujah and ramadi are still under islamic control. left unchecked, the administr

many are undecided including a large number of democratic lawmakers including democratic senator joe manchin only thing that i know that we're short of is that training and those weapons will probably be used against us at some time in the future. if everything that's happened in the past. we took out saddam. we thought that would change. iraq's in worse shape. we take out gadhafi. we thought that would change. it got to bad in libya, we've had to pull out our people. i'm not supporting assad, i think he should be gone. but as long as he's able to remain there, he's fighting the same people that we're asking people to train to fight that we're going to spend $500 million. it makes no sense to me and i can't sell it. i've tried. you can't sell this stuff. >> meanwhile, this video allegedly shows the wreckage of a syrian warplane that was shot down by islamic state militants. nbc has confirmed isis released the video but is still working to verify that it is the same plane. and a man from rochester, new york, is now facing charges after being indicted for allegedly trying to support isis. auth

senator manchin, did you like what you heard last night?t good about that. i saw what he was committed to. he has a plan. i like what he laid out from that standpoint. we have to see it unfold. today we'll have an all member meeting at 4:00 o'clock. hopefully we'll get questions answered that i need to have more of a comfort zone. but the no boots on the ground is something that i have been committed to. i don't believe that us getting involved in an occupation-type war has proven that it's benefited anybody. we did this 12, 13 years ago. i don't second guess it. i don't condemn. the bottom line is it didn't work out well. is iraq in a better position than they were before we got there and in libya and the whole north africa? >> right. maybe we hope to get it back to where it was in 2007. can we win the war with syrian free army, what's left of the iraqi ground forces, because we're not going in, or mosul who is more of a defensive force, does that worry you? >> well, also as i've said, i want to see who the coalition is. is the other arab

here's senator joe manchin with msnbc's chris hayes. >> we'll give them the air support. i'm all for that. this doesn't make any sense for us to go in and embolden them, the isis, and use it as a recruiting tool against us. >> the navy has released this video showing different aircraft supporting strikes, surveillance and reconnaissance missions over iraq. nbc's tracie potts is in washington. tracie watching that story for us. good morning to you. what is expected, then, to be the outcome, as this measure now makes its way to the senate? >> reporter: sure, richard. well, there's a fairly good chance this will land on the president's desk. what we're watching today, to see if the senate does what the house did yesterday. this is one issue in washington that's not partisan. we had democrats and republicans for it, democrats and republicans against it, and even supporters say it's not ideal, but arming the syrians may be the best chance of changing the situation with isis on the ground. this morning, the iraqis say they're gaining ground against isis, taking back parts of ha

joe manchin said no one showed me who is our friends and who isn't.t is inevitable they take the weapons and training and use it in that region of the world in the last 25 years and all of that is still yet to be answered. and david haines the most recent to be executed, a cab driver who felt that the people of syria needed help and went to help them. and that's the thank you he gets. that is awful. >> take care. >>> just thought the people of syria needed help. back here at home, hillary clinton appearing to drop hints about 2016 in the highly anticipated return to iowa. she and former president clinton in iowa. first appearance there since 2008. carl cameron is there live. >> reporter: hi, we are in des moines. the clintons are a private fundraiser with a bunch of folks and then came out to a tom harkin steak fry. it was a far bigger crowd in the 37 fries he has had. she was welcomed by harkin and bernie sanders with questions about her criteria and qualifications as a liberal democrat. they are arguing that the democratic party proved to the center

in the middle of bashar assad's civil war and manchin warning that the weapons could end up in the hands of terrorist. >> i cannot and will not support training the syrian opposition forces. we have been at war in that part of the world for 13 years. if money and military might could have made a difference, it would have by now. >> the house expected to vote later today. and speaker boehner is putting muscle supporting the president and senate harry reid said the senate will vote as well. >> an upstate new york man stands accused of trying to help terrorist group isis. he is now among the first of americans to face charges in recruiting for the terrorist group there are more reports about possible targets in the united states including times square. >> we have been down the road before. >> there are new disturbing signs that isis is making its presence felt. up inro chester new york. and the suspect was allegedly trying to recruit local men who turned out to be fbi informants and travelled to syria he told the man he wanted to kill iraq veterans and bought to silencers to carry out the a

and democrats like joe manchin are questioning the president strategies in a coalition that john kerrys that he is putting together. >> the most important is to know your enemy. it is equally important to know your allies. and i am not confident that we know who our allies are. and it seems like a political answer as they cry out about this uncivilized activity. we have come back from a week of serious meetings. >> for two later today the house voted to give the president the power to train and arm the syrian rebels. tom: thank you, ed henry at the white house. in the meantime, top homeland security officials testifying that the islamic state is an eminent concern for the country, but stopping movement from the middle east including radicalized americans is a challenge. homeland security secretary jeh johnson claiming that amnesty would encourage both terris to likely come forward. >> it hinders our ability to track those individuals, which is why from my homeland security perspective, i would like to see those people come forward and get on the books. and the risk to homeland security

and democrats and republicans against it like joe manchin who said yesterday there's no way he is voteo go give money and arms to opposition in syria. as one put it, you don't know if today's allies could be tomorrow's enemy. that is the vote the senate is expected to take. if it lands on the president's desk he will sign it. it was part of his plan to defeat isis in that region. the president is still saying we will not send ground troops but euzers. he reiterate thad from mac air force base yesterday. they are back talking about the 40 nations the president said is joining in in fight. >> tracie, thank you. >> 5:32. isis is reportedly encouraging lone wolf attacks on times square and other high profile locations around the u.s. using home made explosives. a post on an isis message board that post includes a guide for building makeshift pipe bombs like matchheads, christmas lights and sugar. . >>> they will search a property in southwest virginia over the weekend for a decade old missing persons case. they are looking for clues in the disappearance of the lyon sisters. so far they hav

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republicans like joe manchin are questioning the president's strategy and the coalition john kerry says he's putting together. >> it is important to know your enemy, it is equally important to know our allies and i'm not confident that we know who our allies are. >> reporter: as kerry faced heat from key republicans. >> this doesn't even seem see, it seems like a -- it seems like a political answer to the united states as they cry out got this uncivilized activity. >> i must say to you, i really find it somewhat surprising as we have come back from a week of very serious meetings with nations around the world, all of whom are committed to this. that you sit there and suggest that it's not serious. >> now iranian president denounced isis for it's savagery in an interview with nbc news, by it also charged the u.s. coalition is ridiculous saying the white house is scared of casualties on the ground in iraq. >> ed henry, live on the north lawn, thank you. >>> obama administration officials say illegals from almost 150 countries, some of them state sponsors of terrorism have crossed into the

west virginia years ago, joe manchin shot a a hole through the cap and trade bill he ended up winningentucky son othe fence. west virginia, forget it. >> neon that the secretary of state, hillary clinton she is back in iowa. >> she is back. big surprise. she is back. she is way up in the polls. i think it's pretty inevitable that she is going to run and she is clearly you know way ahead of anybody out there. i don't think it was surprising that she was there reaction of course she didn't do well last time. >> came in third. hillary clinton is distancing herself from this president. it's hard to win three presidential elections in a he row. i think she is going to sail to the nomination. there might be something who will make it interesting but she is 40 points up. >> can't distance herself if she gets the nomination. she can't really distance herself from the president complexion day because she needs his mailing list, his voters, his constituents. going to have to cozy up to him at some point. >> that's why i say she is running until she is not running. not 100%. not because she can'

at least one senator, west virginia democrat joe manchin, says he will not support it. >> i just do not believe that arming the syrian opposition forces is the correct approach. because i can foresee a senate debate a few years from now, not that far off, i can see this coming. about how to defeat the next group of islamic terrorists that we helped to train and install. >> in the meanmeantime, top secy officials stress the threat posed to the u.s. there's a competition of sorts going on between al qaeda and isis. >> these groups are in competition with one another for attention, for fund-raising, for recruitment. and one way to compete is to show that you're the biggest and baddest group out there. >> the logic of it is compelling. you're not going to be the leader in the global jihad without striking america. >> johnson and kome join officials to meet with president obama wednesday afternoon. following that meeting, the white house announced the president will chair a u.n. security council summit on foreign threats next week. secretary of state kerry was being grilled about u.s. strate

>> if the house does pass that bill it will then go to the senate where west virginia senator joe manchin laid out his very serious concerns. >> the opposition fighters that we will train care more about overthrowing assad's regime than they do about defeating isis. assad is evil, make no mistake about it. but he is not a threat to america. if the moderate opposition has to choose between defeating assad and defeating isis, why do we believe -- think about this -- why do we believe that they'll choose our priority over their own? why would we even think that? how do we know that they won't join forces with isis if it helps them overthrow assad? >> we're going to have much more on all these angles during the course of this hour. meanwhile, new york city's police commissioner, bill bratton, says his city is quite concerned about the capabilities of isis. while there's no credible threat to new york, a new post on a message board affiliated with isis urges sympathizers to attack various tourist spots including times square. >> their ability to use social media to try and spread their recruit

take for instance, west virginia senator joe manchin. here he is. >> we took out saddam. thought that would change. iraq's in worse shape. we took out gadhafi, got so bad in libya, we've had to pull out. i'm not supporting in any way shape or form assad, think he should be gone. but as long as he's able to remain there, he's fighting the same people that we're trying to fight and spending $500 million. makes no sense to me and i can't sell it. you can't sell this stuff. >> rand paul from kentucky is making all the moves as a 2016 presidential candidate. said arming syrian rebels was a stepping stone to americans in combat. >> as isis grows stronger or they're not quelled by sending arms to feckless allies in syria, then what happens? then they come back again and again. there's already the drum beat. there's already those in both parties who insist that we must have american gis on the ground. i'm not sending any american soldiers. i'm not sending your son, your daughter, or mine over to the middle of that chaos. >> joining me now at the "hardball" round table, jonathan c

while there's been vocal opposition to that particularly today from west virginia senator joe manchin, who said he would vote against it, that is expected to pass in the senate as well. it's a controversial idea. first proposed by the white house months ago. but before this week congress didn't see fit to bring it up. now they've not only brought it up, they've passed it at lightning speed. they're prepared to let it roll on against isis purely on the president's say-so before they even bother to put it up for debate. none of these things that we are doing are new ideas, right? these are all old ideas that we're kicking around for months if not years before, but they were flatly rejected before by the american people and ignored by congress until isis succeeded over the past few weeks in terrorizing us. by so scaring and upsetting us via video that they have provoked us into doing things that with a cooler head we would never do. >>> joining us now is a senior analyst at flashpoint global partners which is a firm that tracks and analyzes teary related groups. the video that was releas

i want to play what your fellow democrat, senator joe manchin of west virginia had to say. >> i haveeep concern about us investing taxpayer dollars to a group of rebels. i'm not sure how to use to our benefit. if it's going to be used against us at some time. >> beyond that, we use the term syrian rebels. the fact of the matter is they fight alongside most of the extreme groups in the region right now. these idea the rebels will help us save the day. it seems a bit farfetched, no? >> well, this is the exact problem we have about year ago, remember last august when there was this whole issue of whether we would arm the rebels in syria or not. and the fact of the matter is we have not addressed the issue. we still don't understand who truly are the moderates, which ones are isis. which are in can hoots with isis. it's very difficult to get what the president has outlined. let me be clear, one of the reasons that we were hit on 9/11 was there was space, there was space in afghanistan for of islam to train. so if we allow a space to happen as these isis people want between sir why and pa

she leads a very diverse party from elizabeth warren to joe manchin, a conservative united states senator anthony brown a governor of maryland, she leads a very diverse party. and yes, there will be tensions, but at the end of the day, debbie's job is to go out there to help democrats win, and that is what she doing. >> that's telling at the end of the day. to pick up on part of that point it is problematic when you're not in regular strategy sessions with the white house, with the president, and in a way that she's admitted she is in on a regular basis. that's problematic. number two, let me finish my thought, when it comes at the end of the day that will be the most telling case when we see the shifts already that are in republicans' favor, there is a still a lot of time between now and then. >> wait, wait, wait. >> i think that's a very telling for to the white house standpoint. >> enh! i thought you'd have a quick thing to say and we'd move on. okay now we're moving on. i want to, because i have been kn noticing the ads here in maryland and in the senate race congressionally in virgin

asking for protection for women like his sister and others who might have a chance if we pass the manchin-toomey background check to keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons and people who are mentally unstable as well as the klobuchar and blumenthal legislation to protect women who are victims of domestic violence and stalking. thank you, mr. daniel, for being here. >> thank you, senator. will the witnesses please stand to be sworn. do you affirm that the testimony you will give here today will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? >> i do. >> thank you. i'll introduce the whole panel, and then we'll go through their testimony. i will first introduce jacqueline campbell who is the chair of the johns hopkins university school of nursing and the national program director of the robert wood johnson foundation nurse faculty scholars program. in 2012 she was recognized by the centers for disease control and prevention as one of 20 national leaders in injury and violence prevention for her work related to domestic violation. dr. campbell is on the board of dir

the second thing that senator manchin maybe senator warner several of you referred to already today, somebody called it quite aptly the trickle down effect of supervisory process. yesterday we met with small bankers. they were a good group. the reason i thought they were a pretty good group is because they came in with specifics. they came in with specifics that said look here's a way in which some articulated supervisory expectation is we think is not appropriate for us, creating a problem for us and we kind of think it's trickling down and in some cases i think they were right. it's good for our staff to thereabout to hear it as we've done with groups of small community bankers in the past. we got a list of action items to follow up on. so although the process is formalized, i suspect the same thing is going on at the fdic, we can be in a constant process of changing currents practices and if you do it even at the request of a small number of smaller banks, the benefits of that can proliferate. i do think in the end we do have this problem, we have thousands of examiners and it's h

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