up first joe manchin and democrats. he said this on sunday on cbs face the nation. >> if people are trying to stop something from doing so much good thinking somebody else will get credit. let's see how it plays out and let you know later. right now i have no intentions of changing anything. >> bill: you believe him. you think he is staying put where he is. >> i do. look, the reality, bill, is that joe manchin has always been an independent senator. he doesn't really need to change parties to prove that point. i think what this is more about, bill, is that joe manchin voted for the inflation reduction act. there are a lot of clean energy, green provisions in that bill that aren't popular in a very conservative energy-rich state like west virginia. joe manchin is up for re-election in 2024. he will have a tough race if he runs for re-election and trying to show he is more independent but look, the democratic party in west virginia is the one democratic party where joe manchin is conservative enough he can still win the n

so my guess is joe manchin will continue to be joe manchin.he wants to run for re-election that's going to be good enough for him to beat any republican we put up anyway. >> democrats, sigh of relief. >> joe has to decide whether he's going to run again, right, so that's the interesting thing there. he's not going to become a republican, he's going to continue to do what he's always done, which is speak his mind and, you know, drive at deals like the inflation reduction act, so when you look at the whole dynamics of the senate right now, it really -- when you say you don't want to going to do with subpoena power, senator warren talked about subpoenaing jared and ivanka to talk about the saudi deal. >> you may see that, rachel, i want to go back to georgia and herschel walker's loss, he did worse now in this runoff than he did in november. >> yeah, and the one thing that i was watching for was whether or not that endorsement from brian kemp was going to help him in this runoff election, now, remember, he did worse, he underperformed where brian

energy permits and approved a permit important a manchin.rshall blasted the amendment with manchin wanted tied to the defense bill. >> the final text of this amendment only saw the light of day week ago. the amendment has not been subject of any debate in committee. with had no witnesses and no markups. no way to make major changes to complex laws. senator manchin's amendment does nothing to address the problem of never ending environment a litigation. >> manchin was discouraged that it failed as the senate approved the defense bill. >> i want to clarify back. i clarify my friend listening to the clarification because no sitting bill. and someone has not informed you. that doesn't come from what you said. >> reporter: manchin was promised a vote on his plan in exchange for supporting the inflation reduction act last summer. manchin went to the amendment attached to a spending bill in september. a coalition of environment of the concerns democrats teamed up to reject the amendment. republicans were mad at manchin for supporting the ira. neil:

if you know him, you have to know gail manchin. she was appointed by president biden to be the head of the -- co-chair of the appalachian regional commission. $163,000. he was always active when he was governor and she was first lady. she had key jobs one she was fired or had to step down from. when you understand the manchins you have to look to the two of them. if he steps down and moves ahead that probably affects her and her appointment there from the biden administration. >> harris: you always bring something new to the puzzle of trying to figure out why do people choose the things they do on capitol hill. i guess your role as an oversight chair means you are quite a investigator. i want to dig into that next time. how cozy was the federal government with the old twitter? the fourth drop of elon musk's twitter fires reveals a tight relationship between them. journalist matt taibbi describes what he calls constant contact between the f.b.i. and twitter executives. he points to emails between an agent and twitter's former trust

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his senator manchin next? sam bankman-fried is willing to appear before the house services committee next week, he tweets he doesn't have access to all his data so i won't be as helpful as i would like. bitcoin trading under $17000 level, 17156 to be precise, brittney griner back in the united states she was swapped with the russian arms dealer the white house under fire for making what some consider a very bad deal. i watched terry and meghan netflix special, yes, i did. my review two words juvenile whining. friday december the ninth 2022, "varney & company" is about to begin ♪ ♪ >> have we got a show for you today will start with one of the biggest stories of today more twitter files have been released were learning the company blacklisted prominent conservatives, spell it out. >> i'm going to say that twitter lied to the american people into congress when they said we did not shadow ban or block certain users in certain topics, they did they just called it visibility filtering and they did it to several con

the work of senator collins and mansion, and the group of senators -- senator collins and senator manchin, and the group who worked painstakingly for months to come to an agreement on this bill and on this committee that includes senator warner, who is with us today, as well as a sense of history in his state, and we thank them for their work on the bipartisan group that drafted the bill before us. i also appreciate their support as well as senator manchin and senator collins support for the manager's amendment. finally i want to recognize our good friend senator king for his early, early leadership on this issue. he was ahead of his time as always, and drafted legislation that he and i and senator durbin introduced in february and a number of the provisions in that draft bill have stood the test of time and are included in both the senate and house versions of this effort. we are here today after months of bipartisan effort, as i noted, to find common ground on reforms to the outdated and antiquated electoral count act. i appreciate the work of my colleagues and the appropriate help from

they were also trying to get manchin to yes on inflation reduction act.if manchin does the inflation reduction act, chips is dead. headlines come out saying manchin has walked away from the table. no inflation reduction act. chips gets passed. the day it gets passed, actually, there's a deal. mcconnell was pretty ticked off. i think, symone, that joe biden having been a senator for 40 years probably plays a little bit of a role too. >> i think he does play a role, but i think from my experience with the president, he really does lean on and respect the knowledge of both the speaker pelosi and the leader in the senate. but look, chuck schumer is the one who has the lead the senate caucus. it is not the president of the united states of america. and understanding that, he doesn't step on schumer's toes, but joe biden is somebody who does not believe in legislating by executive order. i think there's been a lot of criticism this year of why he couldn't do x, y, and z via executive order. i think because he comes from the united states senate, that history me

a democratic senator joe manchin talked to fox news. he says the biden administration has to take this seriously. take a listen. >> i'm encouraging the administration, let secretary mayorkas do his job. he will do it. i guarantee, he will do it. he's tough. he can do it. but he has to have the green light and he's not gotten it. that's my evaluation. >> in two weeks from today, title 42 is set to expire. multiple border patrol sources tell us that you can expect a tsunami, a surge on top of a surge when that happens. right now we're averaging 6 to 7,000 illegal crossings every day. dhs' own worst of the worst when title 42 drops, they could see 18,000 illegal crossings in a single day. that would be nearly tripling of the current record levels that we're at right now, neil. back to you. >> neil: wild. thanks, bill, for that. brandon judd is with us right now. the national border patrol council president. brandon, so much to get into with you here. the first thing that hit me is this continued surge at the border. now it's escalating. of

less joe manchin a little bit but certainly more kyrsten sinema.n almost sounds like she is saying right now. she wants to be that voice and the room that is completely independent and you know, democrats must hate that. because now they have lost one trip for them. so we have two independence and a socialist and a bunch of democrats on one side and a bunch of republicans on the other. it narrows that majority but it brings the board, ainsley unpredictability. if voters love that because now more than 40% of americans are identify as independent spirit so she is brilliant to do this in a state like california and smooth in the state becomes purple, not blue or red. she is right where she needs to be in position right there. that puts a lot of pressure on people like mark kelly and others because there is no term limit and i assume she will run again. >> ainsley: what do you want to say, tomi but joe manchin has to make a decision because his approval rating before he voted for the inflation reduction act was in the 70s but now in the 30s. he didn't

david, quickly, what do you lose when you lose joe manchin?did go along with the so-called inflation reduction act. you don't really know how he will go. >> democrats are a big party and big tent. joe manchin has proven to be independent, to push his party, to force debate and compromise. that's healthy for the democratic party and healthy for the country. one thing that joe manchin understands and knows is pressure. he has been under consistent pressure. i don't think we'll see any knee jerk reactions from joe manchin. if he runs, he wins. i believe he runs as a democrat. >> harris: it is interesting you say all that and getting ready with the big spending bill, he is not pushing back on anything. he is going with the flow. that is going to cripple us with inflation yet again because it is spending money, spending money, spending money. a website laid out possible pickup opportunities for republicans in 2024 claiming democrats will have an uphill battle in the senate. in addition to west virginia the senate seat there other seats that could g

sinema and manchin are going to play theirs. subpoena power thing is all that big because in the end who are they subpoenaing most of time when congress wants to subpoena someone it's because other party is in the white house and they want to subpoena the executive branch. so i don't think it's going to change much on capitol hill, but it allows us as rachel said, as they were celebrating the raphael warnock win for us to say, remember, you still havesi. >> for democrats, what happens? >> at this point, i think right. there was this brew ha ha whether he would defect. in the wake of the georgia win, perhaps this loosens his grip on power on party. no his hold is still the same. he's going to continue along the same path as he's had for years and the white house will continue to pull their hair out over him behind the scenes. >> i have known joe manchin for a long time, he's never going to be a republican in my view, i think joe manchin is a democrat, going all the way back to his mom and dad, he's a different kind of democrat th

manchin and sinema refused to go along. boosted the bipartisan deals that may have kept sinema and -- from agreeing. when you think of that? >> i think i agree. mitch mcconnell has made a calculation on behalf of the republican caucus, is that they stand to lose more if the filibuster is eliminated. because it can carry out, they can carry out a little of it and that they have through the existing senate rules. the main things that senate republicans are for is reducing regulation, cutting taxes, and confirming judges and you can do all of those three of the things with 51 votes, over the current senate rules. that's why this fake symmetry that democrats have by getting rid of the filibuster, so they can legislate all the priorities that we have, and just the point about, judges one of the things that we haven't talked about, chris, is that this congress has been so productive legislatively pressure. at the same time that they were passing all these policy measures, they bested trump and obama in the number of judges confir

is there any chance you see joe manchin becoming independent. >> maybe, but i think, look, manchin has damaged himself so much that i suspect he'll lose the next senate election in two years. in west virginia. west virginia has shifted more than any other state, both because of economy, and because of culture. west virginiians are deeply anti-woke. and as a result, i think the more that manchin has tried to appease biden and schumer, the weaker he's become. so, i think he's in a different situation than the -- than sinema is. she's in a place -- she's always been sort of independent. her voting record is not quite as independent as her voice. but she in the end has always been sort of one step away from the democratic party. and i think her gamble is there's a three-way race. in a three-way race, she might attract enough independents and moderates for the democratic party and the republican party to win a three-way race. i'm not sure that's the right calculus. i think part of us just discussed years ago, as you remember, sean, when you used to be in georgia, the most popular politician

manchin. now that republicans have gained influence manchin will still wield significant power over the democrats in the senate, still controlled, with judicial nominations. nonetheless, georgia voters choose the democratic party one more vote, a clear 51-49 majority by re-electing snaf raphael warnock to a full six-year term. to catch you up what happened over the weekend in georgia, warnock seems nobody a position of strength. the record surge in early voting indicates he is likely built on his narrow lead from last month's election, and walker is still very much in contention. a win for walker would be a big boon for gop morale including former president donald trump and his 2024 hopes. a sign that partisanship can push through even the most controversial candidate. and on that note, nbc's vaughn hilliard has a big concern, sitting down with cheryl parsa, who was with walker for five years. here is what he she says happened between the two of them back in 2005. >> and he had his hand on my

reporter: does this mean that you are calling joe manchin. senator schumer: manchin and sinema are very valuable and don't agree with us on certain issues but contributing members to our caucus and will continue to work with us. reporter: now that you have more control over committees do you anticipate taking over the investigations happening in the house -- senator schumer: not speculating about the next congress. we have to sit down and talk to our members and figure out the directions we want to go in. reporter: you spoke about the speed and ease and ease for judicial nominees. do you think biden will put more progressive nominees? senator schumer: the nominees he has put forward are very progressive and far cry from these trump nominees who are hard right and if we continue in the same correction we had the last two years, i will be happy, the caucus will be happy and most important america will be happy. reporter: do you see the investigations that you will be doing in the next congress is a counter balance that you are expecting to get

>> absolutely agree senator joe manchin.u look at secretary mayorkas he worked under secretary jeh johnson. and he learned from him it's got a lot of career people that are ready to do their job. the problem as it got to get that green light from the white house. with all due respect listening to immigration activists is one thing you've got to listen to the men and women in green and blue at the border. especially you've got to listen to the border communities where i live. that is listen to the mayors of the county judges the sheriffs the police chiefs and all the folks at land owners who lived on you are's got to listen to them. neil: we do not with the administration's plan is in less than two weeks when title 42 goes away. so i can only rely on you congressman to say what you would want. what would that be? >> i am hoping title 42 will stay on for a while longer. before he got title 42 we had another process called title eight. still the law. title viii can work it just takes a little longer and cost a lot more money, a

west virginia is so republican you couldn't run against manchin from the left.they have a democratic congressman who wanted to run against her anyway. so i think it's legitimate. look, she is the closest thing the democrats have to a moderate, which makes her fairly liberal. but compared to bernie sanders, they are on different planets, i think he wants a party that is entirely committed to wokeism and the big government socialism, so he is going to fight for it. that's his right. >> brian: they say she votes for, with, president biden a lot. a lot of votes don't come up because she is not going to support him. it's almost deceptive. but, newt, here's the thing. did i not know. this they don't run anyone against independent angus king. independent bernie sanders. if they run someone against kyrsten sinema and the democratic vote is divided, the republicans are going to have a walk to getting that senate seat, so they have to do this tactically, they have to think this out. >> well, unless she -- remember, three-way race you could theoretically win with 34%. and

some, and at least manchin, have objected to that. so it's not going to be in this package. >> what about the marijuana banking bill? >> again, this is something that has a lot of support. it's bipartisan support here. but it is not going to be in this also. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell has a bunch of concerns about this. other senate republicans have concerns about this. there's been a lot of discussion about this. but this will not be included in the omnibus. i think we're going to see it next year. i think, you know, the republicans are taking over the house, but the top house republican on the banking committee who would deal with this issue, patrick mchenry of north carolina, we talked to him, and we actually had a story this morning in punchbowl news, he is not supporting the bill, but he won't stop it. so this may come back in 2023, but it will not be in the package that gets approved by congress next week.

senator manchin backed away rumors he is leaving the democratic party.om and florida, democratic caller, good morning. what do you make of the news? caller: good morning. i do not think much is going to change. she is caucusing with the democrats still, she will probably hold onto her assignments. i think it was a way for her just to stay away from the far left of the democratic party and take more of a -- he has been ignoring them anyway so why should she have to try to appease them if she does run for reelection because she will never get on the road anyway, i think it is more you govern from the middle and that is where i believe she is moved. some people say that has nothing to do with biden terrible policies. it is if the majority of the state is independent, move in that direction. the guy from new hampshire is independent, the guy from new york became independent so i don't think it changes anything. host: more from politico's reporting, they say cinema, who served three terms in the house and as a state legislature -- legislator says raphael warn

. >> bret: senator manchin, joe manchin, west virginia, harold, says there is an immigration crisis ate ever seen. while i'm pleased by chief justice roberts order that will divert a disaster temporarily. it's not a permanent solution. i'm committed to wor working wiy bipartisan colleagues to make sure the biden administration work together to find bipartisan imflation solution that bipartisan comprehensive solution is a long way off, harold. and, to senator cornyn's point, the take away from the midterms, you know, some democrats may be leaving saying immigration was not a driving force in that midterm. >> harold: first off, thank you for having me. merry christmas and happy holidays. manchin was right even with title 42 as it is tonight we have record crossings. we need a long-term solution whether we want to call it comprehensive or not. comprehensive is usually a bad adjective or adverb to use for reform in washington. we need a longer term solution to this challenge around our asylum process, a reform that is asylum reform. we need border security reform and we need some reforms t

she's proven her independence, much like joe manchin.y, someone has formally joined the ranks of independents, who do you think it is? i probably would have said manchin followed by sinema. the two of them exhibit such control in the senate because everyone needs to come to them to cut a deal. i think it's wise for her because it places great power in her hands. >> i was asking kaitlan what she thought and i wonder what you feel, this feels from someone who's not a d.c. insider different from bernie sanders and angus king who caucus with the democrats and are pretty reliable. do you think it's different? >> totally different. i think most americans don't regard senator sanders as an independent because we're used to seeing him run for president as a democrat. remember in the recent election, evan mcmullen ran as an independent in utah, put up a good showing but was unsuccessful. there was a question of this and i asked it of evan, okay, you're going to be an independent but will you caucus with either party because if you don't won't you

see i think manchin keeps doing what he's been doing.sinema has done is strengthened manchin's hand and the democratic caucus in the senate because there was this conversation about the warnock win meant that he would have less sway. well, not with sinema being more of an x-factor, that means manchin has a lot more cards on the table than he would have at this didn't happen. i think we will have a lot of -- people we just saw in the last year with manchin and sinema trying to hold sway and dictate the terms of legislation that goes forward. >> thanks, curt. sitting in front of a tree for ruining all of our christmases, appreciate that final thought, mentions power. kurt, britney, appreciate you both, thanks for coming on the show. still ahead, a 23-year-old artist executed. nearly a dozen protesters have been sentenced to death first ending up to the iranian government. i will speak to the biden -- special envoy for iran. in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it

manchin, tester. they don't allow that stuff to fester. she did. almost enjoyed the fester. >> look how tester, the interview with tester, explaining why he is a democrat and has taken the stands. people don't want you to be with them a hundred percent of the time but they want to understand you >> i think it is a good point. however, i would say any break with the orthodoxy of the democratic party, which is increasingly progressive, means you are cut out. and, you know, she is really an example of that. she challenged her party and as a result she was going to be primaried. >> is this going to get contagious if she is successful? how many other senators secretly wish they could go outside the party structure? >> i don't think so. i think given how partisan the country has become, to kristen's point the party is going to do you more favors than not especially in a 50/50 senate. i think to the degree over the next two years whether we have a functionally 51/49 senate or 50/49/1 will show us. the idea of being a team player. if she operates like bern

she and senator manchin were the real firewall against some of the extreme legislation that the biden administration tried to push like build back better. hopefully she will have a little bit more courage and take greater stance on legislation that we anticipate will come up next year. griff: bill mcginley and jonathan. great to have you. anita.anita. >> i'm concerned about dr. daniel smith as he came from a sexual harassment, sexual assault plagued school system in fairfax county. so i'd like to know what qualifications does he have to keep our children safe. anita: lots of questions there. the school board fired superintendent scott ziggler on tuesday which placed the blame of preventible sexual harassment on louden county schools. director for fight for schools and senior adviser america first legal now ian. good to see you. so you have been involved in this fight for quite some time, so the superintendent was fired but some people as you just heard are saying too little too late because the details of this case, these couple of cases are pretty unbelievable. just to let our audien

nobody thinking about running against joe manchin.in west virginia anymore. >> dana: he is vulnerable in his re-election as a democrat in west virginia? i know he is very popular there. >> absolutely. this is a state that donald trump carried by, you know, i think 20 plus points. so yeah, he is in trouble in a general election in west virginia. what's interesting to me he commented on the two republicans already talking about running. one a congressman whom he said is just trying to advance in politics and the incumbent republican governor jim justice who he said if he ran against me he would be running because he wanted to do the right thing for west virginia. an interesting observation. already picking one candidate in the republican primary to oppose him. >> bill: we mentioned the final race is in the for the house. we found the study about younger voters voting less for democrats. i will show you. you have a white board. for 2022, 53% of those americans age 30 and under nationwide voted for the democratic house candidate. compare

are you hearing anything from senator manchin?suggesting that the president will extend this in the next 48 hours. are you hearing anything? >> no. we're not. that's why the attorney generals across the republican states banded together to file this appeal to the supreme court. that's why we have as governors reached out to all of our congressional counter parts. that's why we're appealing to the president. extend title 42 but on top of that, go further and security our border. >> sandra: i should say, he believes that the president may do that the next 48 hours. there's obviously a whole lot of folks that are doubtful that will happen. we'll certainly be watching every hour. governor, meanwhile a big move by you in your state when it comes to signing executive orders banning tik tok. one of 17 states now currently taking action against the chinese app. why did you make this decision, governor? >> let's be clear. tik tok an we chat. they are a threat to national security. they're a threat to our intelligence apparatus. they're a t

we're also feeling like maybe we should take back our wednesday analysis saying that joe manchin was no longer one of the most powerful people in washington. we're going to explain the changeover on that. but for context, sinema's changeover should not come as a total shock. she's been a thorn in the side of democrats on some major legislation, pushing for compromises, and in some cases, leaning more toward gop priority. she already rarely attended weekly democratic caucus meetings, she didn't show up on the campaign trail for fellow arizona democrats at all this cycle, and she's been pretty outspoken about her distaste for partisan politics. something she repeated today. >> i think it's important for me to stand proud as an independent and say that i will not be a part of what i consider to be an escalating tit for tat. the angry rhetoric, the desire to get one over on the other party, the desire to punish each other. everyone knows i don't function like that. and i think that goods people who have different opinions can get along and work together. >> so what will all of this mean

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not so much with the manchin but with manchin sentiment was summoned her constituents. weeds are conservatives like manchin her constituents, 80% of them wanted her to vote for that legislation and stop the filibuster when she refused to do that let's not forget that. >> she did not vote democrats 93% -- but she did but she's a solid democrat progress such as a solid independent. >> right discussions, thank you both. sandboxes sending gymboree interviews strategic communications john kirby former secretary of state fox news contributor mike pompeo. lots of talk about 2024 that's coming up after the show, stay tuned. karen is set to make history as the first woman to serve as the mayor of los angeles. bass will be sworn in later this after the vice president kamala harris administering her oath of office. before taking of the top job of the nation's second-largest city, bass served six terms in the u.s. house of representatives as well as in the california state assembly. bass says one of her top priorities in office will be tackling the homeless crisis in l.a. the biden

. >> brian: senator sinema and manchin 51.l made with senator schumer saying the american people will pay the price for washington once again failing to put common sense policy act of constant tribal politics. this is why the american people hate politics. what he said is i designed off on terrible inflation reduction deal to get a pipeline deal for my state and for others, perhaps, and republicans didn't back him up and democrats didn't vote for it so it didn't happen. >> well, you know, joe manchin should probably learn his lesson not stab the republicans in the back by telling them he was opposed to build back better and then secretly cutting the deal. this is pay back for him. also he can get a better deal now the republicans control the house. the only reason the republican could say kill it in the senate because there were enough progressives in the house to block it with the republicans. that no longer exists. can he still get this deal in a senate in a restructured plan because sinema and manchin tend to stick together

what about manchin? these are people you know. >> joe manchin has been a democrat all his life. he saved the senate by not joining to abolish the filibuster but joe has voted for every spending bill they had. sinema has been good on protecting the senate as an institution but votes with democrats most of the time on their priorities. we have a shot in arizona we did not have before. a three-way contest. i don't know who it benefits. i like sinema. the reason she is doing this, the bernie sanders and aoc's are driving people into the ground who don't follow their policies. if we do it as republicans. a wake-up call, don't follow bernie's lead. >> harris: next time democrats will have 23 seats to defend. >> i think we'll win ohio, it's a red state now, west virginia. just about anybody can win as a republican. montana that the republican nominee will win by 15 or 20 points. arizona is in play. republican majority in 2024 is there for the taking. >> harris: senator, great to talk with you today. we hit a lot of topics and good to pick your brain on what you think is possible with t

manchin was close to 60%. sinema was closer to 70%.on. i'm not exactly surprise. because she was the second most moderate democrat in the united states senate. she was frequently a little bit of a thorn in the side of leadership both in the house. and then when she joined the united states senate. >> right. but they're all trying to -- senator schumer today, oh, nothing to see here, it's all cool, we got our committees. you know, okay. but if her record before was only 70%, what's going to happen now? i mean, i guess the way to look at that -- you know, you've been looking at joe lieberman who was a democrat, switched to be an independent. what happened when he made that switch? did that voltting with the part number go up or down? >> he lost the primary. kyrsten sinema's afraid of losing a primary in 2022. and he ran as an independent or a third-party candidate and won re-election. if you look at joe lieberman's record and you compare him before and after he made that switch to being independent, he was ten points less likely to vote

i agree, this puts manchin in an interesting position. everyone is worried about the 2024 calendar where you have a lot of vulnerable democrats. and in some ways this can seem like it's above partisanship et cetera it could also be her reading tea leaves in her state. i agree with her, these parties are difficult to navigate. but i would have more confidence she means what she said if she were consistent in what her values were, priorities were. she's not an independent. she's an enigma. that's different. if she caucuses with democrats supports democratic leadership, supports democrats it doesn't change joe biden's hand as much as you might think. >> that's what we're hearing from the white house, look at the times she has voted with us. what van said about reuben said is important. he said he would primary her. but the question is could she have won if she does run for re-election as a democrat in that primary? >> i think that was part of her calculation. this would have been an ugly primary, i think reuben would have challenged her. now

you know manchin wants coal, you know bernie wants taxing the rich. what does kirsten want? it's hard to know. >> do you think there will be any more clarity with this move? she doesn't say specifically in this interview here is all the reasons i'm leaving, here are all the things i don't agree with in the democratic party, it's more about you can't put me in a box, which a lot of americans can relate to, but without those specifics what changes? >> not that much. and i do think to give her some credit, when she says as she did i don't feel comfortable in these boxes, i don't feel comfortable in being drug to the extremes, i don't feel comfortable that i have to check every single box on the list or i'm in the doghouse, i don't like that. she's speaking for a lot of americans who feel that way in both parties. so she's resonant on that broad theme, it's just when you peel it back it's very, very difficult to understand what that actually is going to add up to practically beyond getting her out of a primary she's probably going to lose. >> just like voters you may not be in a

both tester and manchin ran well ahead of obama.have to run farther ahead of biden if they're going to pull that off. look at the rest of this map. nevada, ace arizona, wisconsin, pennsylvania, there will be seats to defend, and one thing we have learned. if a republican presidential nominees flips this state to their side, they're likely going to flip the senate seat as well. look on the republican side. there's just one seat up decided by less than 5%, and that is florida. maybe they try to do texas. ted cruz is up. but to play offense for democrats, is not easy. this is why they're spending so much money to hold this georgia seat. up next, democrats have outspent republicans by an astonishing margin in georgia. is it going to make a difference on tuesday? hey, are you ready? ♪ ♪ ah, this baby's coming. (knocking) ♪ away things. fit together with away things. ♪ ♪ that's our thing. ♪ ♪ in 3 seconds, 15 couples will share a perfect moment. oh, wow. but we got to sell our houses. well, almost perfect. my place is too small, your plac

senator manchin said that the president should extend title 42. what do you think?nk that since there's no better alternative that would work but it is two years of mismanagement of this issue and then before that four year failing to address it. >> when you were in the trump administration. >> yes. the president one point asked me would i take a look at resolving this question of the people coming across the border. i gave a one-page memo, i said i'll do it if i can do this. he putt it in the pocket and never heard about it again. we have a complex immigration system who limits who can come in. i would expand that. if you are not following the legal route the notion to show up and come into the country is flatly wrong and violates the international refugee conventions. >> what if you ask for asylum? >> and to justify asylum you have to show a fear of persecution based on beliefs, ethnic background. not just that you live in a bad place and the country to consider an application for asylum is country of first asylum. a first country. almost a clear majority and thre

the whole world has revolved around manchin and sinema. sure he had every single member on board. now he could lose one of them and still advance legislation and that's important because obviously there were so many heartburns, so many heart aches when it came to things like build back better over the past two years, kaitlyn. >> manchin says he's happy not to be that deciding vote. we'll see how that plays out. i think a question how this plays out is how this goes to control of both chambers. republicans have a slim majority come january. what does that look like in terms of what's happening on the senate side? >> schumer gained a vote, but he also lost the possibility to work with nancy pelosi and the house of representatives to move his agenda more quickly. so what this means is that if kevin mccarthy becomes the speaker, we should note he's still fighting for the votes, he's going to have to contend with the right flank of his conference and that will make it more of a headache. a divided congress is always more difficult even if they

we begin with west virginia democratic senator joe manchin. he is in charleston.ood morning to you, senator. >> good morning, margaret. how are you? >> i'm doing well. i'm glad you could join us. you wrote this letter to president biden this week, saying there would be a complete loss of operational control at the southern border once title 42 ends in about three days. so, what more can the administration be doing? and what can congress deliver in the coming days? >> well, let me just say, the border, we have a crisis at the border. everyone can see that. i think everyone realizes something has to be done. 42 needs to be extended until we can get really, truly immigration reform. immigration reform will not happen in our country until we all come, both sides of the aisle, republicans, democrats and administration, that you have to have total border security. >> the courts ordered 42 to be struck down. >> i understand that. the president needs to use every bit of power he has as an executive to find a way or ask for an extension. the president can basically, i thin

job protecting your incumbents, looking ahead to a 2024, are you confident that jon tester and joe manchin will be running for rewill election? >> we have great senators, we have a large number who are up, you know, republican-leaning states. but, look, they're great candidates, and we're going to do everything we can to help them. yes. >> you talked about, talked about vice president harris having a little more time on her hands, not having to run to the capitol -- >> well, she has plenty to do, believe me. >> but does this also mean now your phone won't be constantly -- [inaudible] you have that 51st, that changes the power dynamic. >> joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are great numbers of our caucus, they're very valuable. they don't always agree with us, but they are tremendous contributors to our caucus, and we'll continue to work with hem -- [inaudible conversations] >> now that you of do have subpoena power, more control over committees, do you anticipate taking the mantel of any of the investigations happening in the house now that house democrats -- >> not speculate aring about the n

and i think to some extent, fith sinema and manchin might find themselves pretty soon in si that kind of situation. the democratic party moves further and further to the left and for anybody who has an independent sense of thought, it's a very uncomfortable place. >> let me ask you, in midte the fallout of the midterm elections, it looks likerm democrats have given upf do the idea of giving interviews, doing debates, kissingin babies, taking selfies, doing rallies,ll outspentd instead all their mon and they outspent republicans in every major racn every e, all their effort, all their money seems to be going into s be goin the ballot game. >> have republicans madee they a mistake or are they running an antiquated and outdated election plan? should they be in the ballot game? and that meansns ballot harvesting where legal etc.. look, i think every e republican consultanvet needs a thorough reeducation. fact is , republicans focusgh r- on campaigns where you get tedon buy tv commercials and getd a pretty good kickback. democrats focus on elections. there are two totally different models,

they need the extra vote to make a difference between relying on warnock or a joe manchin. >> without question. like i said earlier on committee assignments. it is a big deal but they have been split 50/50 on every committee so democrats with the majority give a full majority to take some power away from manchin and sinema and the vice president. >> down pennsylvania avenue for vice president kamala harris. yeah. joe manchin is happy he may not have to be in the line of fire. >>> next, a shake-up in the democratic party calendar could leave iowa behind and treated to images like this from the all-important iowa state fair. >> is it cold? >> it is ice cold and tasty! delicious. going to go well with the pork chop. ve to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: reallyly? >> tech: that's service the way y you need it. >> siningers: ♪ safelite repai, safelite replace. ♪ i brought inin ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. uhhhh... here, i'll take that. [woo hoo!] ensure max pro

we have a chance with joe manchin.50/50 split and joe manchin carries weight and is a reasonable person we can work with. chuck schumer unfortunately is not. ashley: last one for you. president biden finally admitting problems with his inflation reduction act, i will get your thoughts. >> president biden: look, the united states makes no apology and i make no apology since i wrote it for the legislation you are talking about. but there are occasions when we write a massive piece of legislation and that has almost 360 billion for the largest investment in climate change in all of history. obviously there's going to be glitches in it. ashley: at least he is admitting mistakes. >> there are plenty to admit in the inflation reduction act, not the least of which, being a pharmacist i have to mention the precip and drug portion of this was simply awful. cbos told us that portion of the bill would result in 15 fewer cures coming to market over the next 30 years as a result of this policy. hopefully we can turn that back in th

senator joe manchin of west virginia is the other moderate democrat who often hampers more progressive legislation. he said today that he has no intention of changing his party affiliation right now. but he didn't close the door on that idea saying he can't tell what the future is going to bring. in washington, alice barr, nbc news. >>> stocks bounced back from last week's losses helped by strong buying in the last hour of trading. the dow finished with a gain of 530 points. that's up more than 1 1/2%, bringing the dow back above the 34,000 mark. the s&p also spent the day in green closing 1.4% higher, and the nasdaq ended up 1 1/4% higher. >>> still to come, trying to provide much needed housing in the south bay, giving the green light to address an important issue of making it in the bay. >>> also, less than a warm welcome for elon musk in san francisco after he pulled up on stage during the dave chappelle show. >>> and it is cold out there right now, 51 in san jose. lots of 40s tonight. how many of us dip into the 30s from our morning. i have that forecast for you and i have that fo

more legs joe manchin or kyrsten sinema. we got the politics of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. which was a really of capitol investment. plus all of these spending gave us inflation. at least i think were not going to get much change on the progressive policy regulatory size. the hope is that house republicans will stall the sustained high spending that is killing the economy. paul: thanks and we come back divided government returns to washington with the public incentive to control the house next week is a gridlock on the horizon or are their chances for compromise? our panel previous the hundredyo 18th congress,u' next. the exam alone is worth... 59 bucks. i mean, people deserve breaks, right? yeah, brakes...! [out of control] book an exam today at americasbest.com. at booking.com, finding perfect isn't rocket science. kitchen? sorted. hot tub, why not? and of course, puppy-friendly. we don't like to say perfect, but it's pretty perfect. booking.com, booking.yeah. as a business owner, your bottom line is always top o

the joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are both opposed to it. but the other elephant in the room, talking about democrats increasing a majority in the senate, the house will still be in republican hands, making legislating increasingly difficult for democrats. largely because democrats are able to send a messaging bill from the senate to the house, unlikely because of the filibuster and the lack of votes to take away the filibuster, it would likely not move in the house because of the gop majority there. some procedural things will be different and certainly things like nominees will be easier in the senate but casting legislation for democrats will be a large hurdle. host: in a general sense, i don't know if you cover this directly, but do you know if we will have a result the night as far as who wins? guest: i believe that remains to be seen. as you know recently voting has taken longer in terms of absentee ballot. i know myself i will be watching the returns in eagerly awaiting the answer as to who wins the race. host: you can find her work a