manson wasn't good looking or charismatic.rebelling against a generation whose hard work and sacrifice made such rebellion possible. the entire bad boy appeal is a lie. for it boils down to one essential fact. we glorify those who wish to destroy us. revolutionaries are often just killers, something to be reminded of every time you see a clown in a chase shirt. >> kimberly you're single. you like the bad guys. >> okay. if i saw someone in a chaser i'd run in the other direction. >> why do the bad guys have to be so cute? do tvs no we're not going to watch ugly people? >> well of course they want to romantacize the notion of it and so yeah that's what they do. it's hollywood. they are going to put something forward like that for the very reason. the fact that they picked someone like that to play charles manson who is disgusting on the inside and the outside. >> you're being a little harsh, aren't you? >> sorry. >> he only killed a family. bonnie and clyde, you remember that? warren beatty played the guy. so this is not new. >>

the man who is famous for prosecuting charles manson died.passed away over the weekend from cancer. julie banderas has more. >> los angeles a prosecutor. he prosouted some of the most gruesome crimes. charles manson was a cult leader behind a string of seven brutal murders including actress sharon tate. along with four other people. and the ruthless and random killing of a husband and wife during the trial. he said in his opening and closing statement that manson was a murderous cult leaders and his follower ares were manipulated in to doing his bidding. he called the women zombies and tribe of bootlicking slaves. all received the death penalty until the supreme court over turned it and reducing their sentences to life without parole. he entitled one bookelster skelter. and his nonfiction work included true crime. and five reasons oj simpson got away with murder. his son tells the associated press that his father "unflagging dedication to justice in everything he did. ". he was 80 years old. >> when you hear of hogs in the highway you think o

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but after the manson murders, you saw a hippie with long hair hitch-hiking and the image of manson wouldoday, the magic is gone. aimless and disorganized, the hippies have fallen prey to their own free spirit. free love, free drugs and too much free publicity have gradually corrupted them. >> somebody happened to haight-ashbury since last year. we hear it's not the same place. >> it's not. the love-ins brought more and more people. then people who were just bums trying to get into a good thing, you know, free food, free everything. so they all just came in, you know. and a lot of really rotten people. so now you've really got a bad thing. it used to be you could set your stuff down beside the road, nobody would touch it. and now it got so you couldn't even put your things inside a building. somebody would come along and take everything you had. >> one day i woke up very hungry, very tired and disgusted and decided to get a job, settle down and get serious. >> joe's job is making jewelry. he's been taking a six-month course to learn how. >> it was hard in the beginning. getting up at 8:00

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prosecutor, vincent bugliosi, famously known for locking up charles manson, has died. and he also wrote a a book about the murders in 1969. about manson's trial and brutal murder of actress sharon tate and six others back in 1969. during his career with the d.a.'s office won 105 out of 106 felony jury trials including 21 murder cases. the ucla law grad passed away on saturday from cancer he was 80 years old. let's turn to our tuesday forecast here's nbc meteorologist bill karins. >> the heat's the story and a little bit of rain from blanca. we are trying to bring the moisture to the southwest. we've had some downpours over new mexico. it looks impressive, but a lot of this is virga, precipitation that evaporates. the air so dry, it falls from the clouds but is not making it to the ground. there are a few areas that will see showers and downpours, especially higher elevation areas, some of the hills north of l.a. could get some rain during the day today. i don't expect a lot in l.a. itself or in san diego. and our computers are barely spitting out any rainfall in the pr

vincent bolysi prosecuted manson for the 1969 california murders carried out by manson's followers. at the time it became the basis for his book. he had struggled with cancer in recent years and he was 80 years old. >>> time now is 4:42 on this tuesday. caught speeding? well now you can fight before you pay. the new rule that is meant to help ease the burden of high priced traffic tickets coming up. >> and what's cool about your school? or your summer camp? you can e-mail your nomination to us at coolschools@kpix.com. and we may come and feature your s my new summer meal's got eight pieces of chicken, a large coleslaw baked beans with pulled chicken, 4 biscuits and a half gallon of dole classic lemonade. you see what i'm talkin' about? it's still finger lickin' good. >>> drivers in california can now fight the traffic tickets without having to pay the fines fist. the leaders of the state's court system called the judicial counsel approved the rule change yesterday. it's meant to help thousands of people who lost their licenses because they couldn't pay. advocates for low income peop

taking advantage of the racial divide in this country i think manson it's more about manson than it is even than the four little girls who were killed in the birmingham church bombing in 1963. it is an awful, awful event that happened here. i just -- my heart's broken. >> my heart's broken too. you mentioned the facebook photo, the display of the apartheid era of south africa or another flag of white rule in rhodesia now zimbabwe obviously. do we miss signs? we have a roommate who has come out and said he was into segregation, he wanted to start a civil war. he said he was going to do something like this and kill himself. why almost in every case after the fact do we find out all the evidence was there, even posted on social media and then we say, oh you know all these people say, oh we saw this was coming. how do we miss that geraldo? >> look at adam lanza. his mother had guns all over the house there in newtown, connecticut. all over. and the kid was clearly going off the deep end. she missed it. and he killed her as a result. in this particular case again, where was the dad? how can

i'm charlie manson.important thing but if you can keep it quiet there are people who'd appreciate it. name manson ring a bell? your husband was his lawyer. i don't think this is about manson and your daughter. it's about manson and your husband. rue fisher. i'm the engineer. you come to make some music with us, rue? you shared your good with me, man. i brought you two presents. they're yours, man for as long as you want them. - sam. - kristin. (shafe) don't lead a subtle life. thought you ought to know. [glass shatters] (hodiak) our son is awol from a combat zone. (opal) i didn't open it. he's going to prison because of you. that's the coffee hut. that's art gladner. (dunphy) so

i interviewed manson here in san quentin. >> why did those girls murder for you?er for me. >> you told them to. >> that's not reality. reality is they did what they did. they're responsible for their own actions. i'm responsible for my actions. >> ever kill anybody? >> i've come awful close a few times. i ain't lying to you. if you think i'm lying to you wasting my time and your time. >> bugliosi proved those people killed for manson. >>> this is called "the end of structures" i had a chance to read it. these are fox news contributors as well. i think you'll probably like the book. you can't miss it. set your dvrs so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it for us. special report is next. >>> this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. we begin with national insecurity here in the capitol city at least for awhile today. both the white house and the capitol were the targets of phoned-in bomb threats this afternoon. a senate hearing on the tsa's latest security troubles was suspended and the building cleared. a short time later, the televised w

. >> reporter: catherine creek it's been 46 yes it--years since manson and his followers commit thoseesome murders in beverly hills. but a pop culture's fascination with a mad man lives on hundred >> reporter: in bc fixated on mantegna, making him a pivotal part of its that in the '60s detective series aquarius. >> reporter: the serious stars' game throws and kapernick and david the caulking. >> i think people are interested and the real '60s. >> reporter: it was the most heinous crime ever committed seven people killed in cold blood among them actress sharon tate and eight months pregnant at the time her sister deborah still goes to the mansion of family members during a hearing creek >> catherine: coming up! what is the fourth of july without fireworks for it if you use the wrong kind and they are lit up when you're properly you could be in big trouble. we are live in cleveland for game 3 of the nba finals for it in a sea of cavalier fans refine warrior die-hards who plan to be loud tonight. looking for a victory there is a lot more news ahead next on kron 4 news at 6. (male announc

vincent bugliosi prosecuted manson for the 1969 southern california murders carried out by manson's followers. at the time, it was the longest and most expensive criminal trial the los angeles history. -- in los angeles history and became the basis for bugliosi's book. he had struggled with cancer in recent years and he was 80 years old. >>> time now 5:09. a major blow for thousands of students taking the sats. the big mistake by the college board of education that is making part of their test not even count. >> and new details on a pool party continue verysy. involving a -- controversy. involving a police officer and a group of teens in texas. neighbors are sharing their side of the story. >> from the kpix weather center, good morning everybody. after record heat on monday, today, cooler. but we'll talk about thunderstorms. that's straight ahead. >> and we've got dense fog affecting visibility for sausalito approaching the golden gate bridge. be advised very thick fog there. also delays for the b.a.r.t. system. i'll have more with 12. take a look at this. this is beautiful, this signals cool

vincent bugliosi prosecuted charles manson. at the time, it was the longest and most expensive criminal trial in los angeles history. became the basis for bugliosi's book and he battled cancer in recent years, he was 80 years old. >>> the state assembly could vote as soon as today on the bill that would remove the personal belief exemptions from the vaccination requirement for schools. supporters say it would help prevent the spread of childhood diseases, opponents say it should be up to parents to decide whether their children should be immunized. >>> former house speaker dennis hastert will appear in a chicago courtroom today. it will be the first court appearance regarding an indictment that alleges he agreed to pay $3.5 million in hush money. he's expected to enter a plea to charges he broke federal banking laws by lying about cash withdrawals when questioned by the fbi. reports say the money was to cover up allegations of sexual abuse from when hastert was a high school wrestling coach back in the '60s and # '70s. >> at th

i don't think this is about manson and your daughter. it's about manson and your husband. hi, dad. the mps. - hiya, bunchy. - it's hodiak, right? ah, yes, it's nice to be remembered. you don't drink anymore, do you? drinking, i don't tend to make the best decisions. i found her, grace. our baby, i found her. let's get our girl and we can all come back together. no. i'll go with someone i can trust. you're so beautiful, you--you hurt my eyes. just take my hand and let's go home. [screaming indistinctly] [distorted] emma, you don't belong here. [screams] help me, charlie! charlie, help me!

the man who prosecuted the manson family and wrote a best-selling book about them has died.fe and career. it is all ahead on happening now. >> thank you jon. >> who let the cat out? we will find out. >> meow! >> one mom is calling out target for categorizing its toys by gender. the ohio mom snapped the sign here showing two signs one listed at boy's building sets and the other girl's building sets posting it on twitter. one person tweeted not even boy's building sets but building sets. and target may as well just cover the aisles blue and pink but the retail change defended the decision saying we conducted a test where we removed any reference to gender in the toy aisles in a number of stores and in those stores our guest research showed guest preferred having a variety of indicators that can help inform and guide their shopping trip. okay. so sandra you have one of each. how deeply offended were you as a woman with a daughter at home that target had the adacity to label such? >> my first born who is two plays are legos and building blocks and doesn't even own a baby. would

he's a deviant just like manson was a deevian the.wanted to start a race war, we wrote him off as a nut, a deviant evil nut. >> we have to break. great debate both of you, appreciate it. president obama changes the country's policy toward hostage negotiation. should families be able to pay ransom to isis and other terrorist groups if their loved ones are being held overseas without fear of prosecution. i agree with the president here but former new york city mayor rudy giuliani will weigh-in and the daily mail catches hillary clinton. good-bye scooby doo van, hello private jet. what happened? our panel will weigh-in on her hypocrisy coming up. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. when kevin jorgeson needs light, he trusts only duracell quantum because it lasts longer in 99% of devices. (glasses clinking) ♪ (ground shaking) well there goes the country club. the 2015 dodge durango. now with availa

as he prosecuted charles manson and wrote a book about it that became the basis or two television moviesorskelter, quot has died. it was the story of how charles manson followers killed actress sharon tate and six others in los angeles in 1969. it was one of the biggest selling crime books ever. and those are your top stories. the markets are now closing in europe. for the very latest, we want to go to bloombergs mark barton in london. ark: the index falling to its lowest since february. the longest run of decline since december. it is focusing on chinese inflation data, pointing to tepid demand of that home and abroad. yesterday, i was telling about the index entering correction and continuing its downward slide. it has lost 150 billion euros in value since its april record high. some risk by the aac in athens today. the greek benchmark rising 6/10 of 1%. the officials within greece submitting fresh proposals to its creditors to unlock fresh bailout funds. but one international official says the revised plan is "a vague rehash of earlier proposals and isn't considered credible." if you

you know if you have a letter from charles manson suddenly you're the life of the party.thers like the closeness with danger. and you mentioned hi bris feel ya. and the definition of that is getting sexual arousal and excitement by being around danger or dangerous people. >> that's an actual thing. that's a scientific term. >> yes, absolutely. and it's more common than i realized when i began this work a few years ago. i had no idea how popular especially serial killers are. and if you look at how popular this story is now about these two escaped convicts it's captured the nation's attention. suddenly these two killers are like cultural heroes and everybody is following this story. it's like you know d.b. coopers in the convict world suddenly. it's very popular. they're popular. and it wouldn't surprise me if they have fan clubs. >> i guess to nose people maybe they're heroes. maybe they were a heroes according to joyce mitchell. i hear you on being pen pals with charles manson and maybe in some circles that's seen as rock star status. this is different. this is a situati

charlie manson, the manson family their helter skelter plan in the tate la bianka murders was to incorrect biffle, this is not new in the minds of twisted hateful people, is it? >> reporter: it's not anything new. i think he grossly exaggerated overestimated his personal ability to start a race war. and what is even more contradictory is there is no way that kind of a concept would take hold in charleston, south carolina with that population of people who are true christians and love one another. he picked the wrong venue and he overestimated his own ability to do something like that. >> the fbi director, sames comey, was asked is this terrorism and should this be prosecuted as such? comey said, no. bill he might want to check his own fbi web site. which defines what terrorism is, according to federal statute. we'll put it up on the screen. here's their own web site, activities that involve acts dangerous to human life -- yes that happened here -- violates federal or state law -- happened here -- and appear suspended to intimidate a civilian population. didn't that happen here? >> greg, i

but what it reminds me of now, thinking about it is charles manson.rles manson also directed the massacre of about the same number of people because he wanted ignite a race war helter skelter and all the rest of that. i think that this racist this racist, this psychopath this sociopath this mass killer is like a man son in that sense. apprehended up in north carolina. it is the kind of crime that is unfortunately relatively common in the great span of american history. i lamented the one difference between here and baltimore, bill. here and charleston, south carolina. everybody white and black is on the same page. mourning together and grief stricken together. they will get through this together. >> this kind of thing happens all over the world. many times we don't hear about it places like china and russia you don't have a free media to report on it. this has happened in australia. it's happened in norway. it's a bunch of malarky to say this is an american problem. it isn't. what is an american problem though is a continuing division along racial lin

. - i'm charlie manson. - how do you know my name? - sam, my daughter emma, she's gone.need a cop in that world. - i report to you? - yep. charlie gets the girls. so, we need a girl. i think i can draft a volunteer. - charlie's my guy, right? if she is looking for charlie, she's gotta go through me. - do something. - relax. - [grunting] - art gladner's high up in the heroin trade. question is, who's above him? - ken, i've gotten nine phone calls from manson. - i need two grand for my demo. - half. you get my girl out of here, you get the other half. - walt? - hi, dad. - i thought you were in country. - i was. - the only way you ever get sent state-side is if one of your parents is dying.

knows that most people low self esteem, women who tried to marry the prison inmates, like charles manson the hillside strangler, it never ceases to amaze me how women are seduced by these guys. >> reporter: mitchell was not just risking her marriage, she was risking her freedom. all the while she was having the relationship with matt, investigators say she was also aware of their escape plot, even giving them tools. she smuggled in hacksaws, drill bits and other items and delivered them right into the prisoners' hands. and it did not stop there. authorities say that mitchell admitted she was going to drive the getaway car and even had a time and place to meet the prisoners after they made their great escape. this is where they were supposed to meet, this power plant is just a few 100 yards away from the manhole where the men emerged from. the power plant smoke stack i'm told is visible from the tailor shop at the prison where the two men worked with joyce mitchell. the d.a. says that smoke stack was likely a marker for their meeting place. >> reporter: but on the day of the planned getaw

newly unsealed documents shift the spotlight in the manson murder history.

its inmate population includes charles manson and some of the nation's most violent prison gangs.lso been frequent guests at california state prison corcoran. >> you might have to fight. you might have to kill. you might have to stab. you never know. it depends on the situation. >> a lot of times it's just fistfights out here. but i would say maybe every other month we get a righteous stabbing. when they do stab each other, they go for the kill. they don't just stab each other to play around. >> every morning you wake up you dealing with a thousand different attitudes. you never know what could happen on that certain day. all you can do is think the worst and hope for the best. >> we met two inmates on the yard at corcoran who are much more pro-active when it comes to surviving life in this powder keg. they gave our crew a tutorial on how they do it. >> some of the rules that you want to live by behind these walls is you want to give everybody the same respect that you expect to receive from them. >> without order we have anarchy. when we have anarchy, people die here. >> robert m

vincent bugliosi prosecuted mass murderer charles manson and wrote a book about it called "helter-skelter." bugliosi was 80, and vincent musetto wrote the "new york post" headline about a grisly murder in a strip club. it said, "headless body in topless bar." he was 74. a lost piece of history was discovered recently on a shelf in california where it had set for decades. it could be the last footage of amelia earhart. the film was shot at burbank airport in 1937 before the scott pioli neither aviator set off on a flight. they would later vanish in the pacific. these days, daredevils shoot their own video. today he walked the 400-foot arch atop london's wembley stadium without a safety harness. he called the view stunning. kingston, who is 24, said he used to be afraid of heights but the more you do something the easier it gets. and owners of these classic mustangs have more than a passing interest in an iranian on nuclear deal and we'll tell you why. that's next. this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open yo

you also go past -- you always go past the gate house at manson are. -- m,anzanar -- manzanar.ll the laws that made this possible are still in the book. we could round up the muslims, the border crossers whatever, tomorrow with the same laws and probably with the same negative results too. i go back to the fact of what happened to the camps. it was easy to get in, it was hard to get out. in hawaii, we did not incarcerate the population. we did it in the mainland of the united states. when the time came, we realized we had made a mistake. only 1200 kids from the camps enlisted. 20,000 in hawaii. charlie: they had not been interned. they were more patriotic towards america. richard: the japanese-americans were totally patriotic. they allow themselves to be put in concentration camp because they thought that was there -- their debt to the country. but after living in the wilderness in terrible places, some of them had turned against the united states. charlie: you say it is the best and worst of america. why the best? richard: what is america about at its best, it's redemption. on

think that all americans know, crazy, lonely, low self esteem women, woman tried to marry charles manson menendez brothers, a woman married the hillside strangler who murdered 17 plus women in l.a. and tortured them with coat hangers. it never seems to amaze me how women are seduced by these guys. >> reporter: mitchell wasn't just risking her marriage. she was risking her freedom. all the while she was having this relationship with matt, investigators say she was also aware of their escape plot, even giving them tools to help them. investigators say she smuggled in hacksaw blades, chisels, drill bits and other items and delivered them right in to the prisoners' hands and it didn't stop there. authorities say mitchell admitted she was going to drive the getaway car and even had a time and place to meet the prisoners after they made their great escape. this is where they were supposed to meet, this power plant. a few hundred yards away from the manhole where the men emerged from. the power plant smokestack, i'm told is visible from the tailor shop at the prison where the two men worked wit

. >> a man who became famous for prosecuting charles manson died. bugvincent bugliosi made the manson family the centerpiece of his prosecution and his book, helter-skelter. >> tucked away in an oklahoma school hidden chalk boards surfaced giving us a glimpse into the past. randall pinkston joins us now with the details. good morning. >> even i am too young to know some of the math tricks preserved on those chalk boards. i do remember, however black boards and never saw any that looked like these. >> pilgrims, penmanship and pictures, all coated in dust. they were frozen in time and would have remained hidden, but then came the renovation at emerson high school in oklahoma city to make way for new white boards. they stripped off the old black boards and there they were, lessons learned a century ago. tradition thanksgiving stories about the pilgrims with carefully drawn and colored pictures. there's also math, basic addition and multiplication, tables on the black board a multiplication wheel. one colorful sketch is of a little girl in a pink dress.

any bluer, you'd look like you escaped from the marilyn manson tour. so how do you like the new you? finally. wait. (sighs): my only obligation is to give you that. i don't actually have to talk to you.

david plays a cop that chases down charles manson and then premier of "hannibal" with david's co-star"the x-files." >>> she's done long short, straight and curly and right now sarah jessica parker in new york with the guy behind many of the famous looks. >> the man behind the famous dresses, the long locks, julia's oscar winning chignon and up-do. >> the go-to guru for the stars year around. >> i'm here with the love lisa ra jessica parker at the new salon. here's the sneak peek. >> extra special correspondent adam glassman getting a tour of the incredible three-floor 8,000 square foot posh retreat. at the grand opening in the chelsea neighborho. >> did you get nervous doing hair? >> all the time. >> really? >> yep. >> do you really? >> every day seems like it could be the last day. >> that's true. ver cavalier. always strives for the a-plus. he is an atom splitter. not an adam splitter. an atom splitter. >> how do you collaborate? >> it's very easy to be creative with him. he's inspiring because he can do anything. >> his secret? >> we don't think about what people are going to say a

. >> this is charles manson's girlfriend. 53 years his junior. >> he's always there for me emotionally this is the wife of eric menendez. if ones that withdrew tally killed their parents. >> the holding of the hands when i'm with him is a big, big thing. you wouldn't think so. >> they're the women who never know what it's like to do dinner and a movie. who would decide to get involved with a prisoner? >>. >> i like him for who he is and no matter where he was. they've been together for about a year. >> why date someone in prison? >> because, the option is not to date him at all. noek else makes me happy like he does. so it's worth it. >> chelsea says she knew him before they went to prison, but they weren't together then. there's a host of web sites to make connections like inmate passions and meet an inmate. >> david writes an e i'm an easy going, good-hearted man. >> someone's down to earth and keeping their word. >> daniel writes i have a warm personality and find it easy to make friends. experts say oftentimes there was a psychological condition associated with those who seek out c

. >>> a prosecutor in the charles manson trial has died. bugliosi went on to write a book helter-skelter which told the story about the manson family and murder of sharon tait and six others as a matter of fact. he struggled with cancer. he died saturday night in a hospital in los angeles. he was 80 years of age. he was quite often, want on national television, talking about different murder cases. >>> well, lets talk about caitlin jenner facing more legal troubles from that deadly crash in malibu earlier this year. >> hollywood agent driving one of the two cars jenner hit is now suing, caitlin, the agent claims that she suffered serious medical injuries and lost wages after the february accident last month. caitlin was also name in the wrongful death suit brought by stepchildren of the would hand died in that crash. more people. there is three cars involve. >> three cars. >> he hit one in which bounced woman in oncoming traffic and she died there was another car in front of her car. >>> made in america, big concert jay z puts on every year

leon: more search warrant and a new focus in the manson murders. why investigators are taking an interest in the car belonging to the father's assistant. >> my son is not a second-class citizen. reporter: a soldier killed in a virginia family searching for a final resting place. why did arlington cemetery say no. >> it was just hanging on the rocket ship like it lived here give reporter: reporter:leon: a persistent past problem that will make your skin crawl. >> abc 7 news at 5:00. on your side. alison: prosecutors are scrabbling to bring the woman -- it's a case that date back to 2005. jeff goldberg is live outside the fairfax county courthouse, monitoring the develop -- situation first. reporter: we are currently waiting for the victim to arrive at the courthouse. we are shelti is docked in traffic. this is a motion hearing from the defense challenging whether or not this victim could identify jesse matthew in person in court. the defense arguing that she gave a vague description of the accuser -- of the suspect at the time this happened in 2005.

first of all, you can't blame catcher in the rye for getting shot, andial blame marlin manson for columbined you don't have any of those readers acting in a violently ways. so i think this speaks to the fact that most conservatives don't understand that progressive say them religion, and you're one step away from being a murderer. so if you're not as antiracist from them from their perspective, you're a dangerous ticking time bomb. >> yeah. and obviously people are trying to figure out how this happened, how to keep it from happening again, who do you blame. >> well, i think it's clearly the individual who assimilated whatever he read from wherever he read it, but still drew the wrong cause of action. >> yeah. >> and whatever you think of arch americans, there's no justification to kill them. the notion that you can go from watching fox news to a decision to murder nine people in cold blood just ignores the reality. it's one persons twisted decision. so the statistics about the notch people who watch fox news even if this kid did and his act, is about as significant of the percentage of peo

the man who prosecuted charles manson wrote a big about it desperate about it has acted has died. one of the biggest caps on books ever. want to get straight to julie hyman for some of the big stories of the day including jack ma who is speaking here in new york, trying to recruit businesses to china. there is a little self interest as well. he wants them to be his clients. sell in companies to china. the irony is that part of the reason that he is looking for clients here is that because the economy in china is slowing down to some extent. he is speaking to the economic at the waldorfk her story at today. he says that alibaba may be bigger than walmart globally in 2015. he says that alibaba will sell over a trillion dollars worth of goods in five years. he says the company is seeking to globalize infrastructure in e-commerce. he says his main focus is helping small businesses. he wants 40% of the business to be outside china. as for his countries, he says that china should be focused on importing in the next 10 to 20 years. those are some of the initial comments. you can see the

. >> that's how it starts and next thing you know you are married to manson. >> true. >> >> all coughays ago you were interviewing ross on this show and said you thinktaire confinement are good and you don't like stuff like that. >> i don't think that solitaire is god. alcatraz where you have a bunk mate and play chess with them. the good old days. >> all right. ron, you said you learned in 1998 with clinton -- '98 or '88. >> '98. nobody remembers the infraction that only the sex counts and clinton said i did not sexual relations with that woman and turns out he wasn't counting oral sex as isle is relations and now mitchell told her husband she did not have sex with either of the escaped cons an now we find out she was going to the sex clos set with him. it is possible she took a clue from the former president and that's what they were doing in this closet. >> do you think this is an impeachment offense? >> i hope so. derek jeter went dutch at dinner. you said i remember the days when we could put a star on a pedestal and not worry he would fall. what days like these. mickey mantle wo

his name was charlie manson. we thought of him what he was.rug addict, evil dooef yent. >> but he never said he want today go in and kill black people. >> yes, he did. he wanted to start a race war so ultimately, he could then govern the whole thing. we thought of him as a nut. >> okay. hang on. i want to put your tweet up. and then you said the killer did not pull out a confederate flag and use it to kill nine people. but why we're on the subject, go on. what's your point? >> my point is, listen to this. the asuchgs that we're all talking about here is what eric holder said. that is that america suffers from pernicious racism. look at the difference from 1963 when these four girls were killed and now, 52 years later, the president of the united states is black, the attorney general is going to lead an investigation into what happened. in 1953, the f.b.i. was led by j. edgar hoover who didn't believe -- >> are you saying we're discounting the process? >> that's exactly what i'm saying. and all the things that nicholas mentioned about the life

how many crazy women have married people in prison including charles manson. i don't know how many prison escapes we did on america's most wanted that women aided fugitives they had never met. they establish a relationship online or through mail with a prisoner. help them get out and almost every single time that prisoner abandoned them. they've got lots of time to work on these women inside the prison or outside the prison. the sad thing is she's going to pay an awful price for helping this guy. they're good at it. they're con men. they're sociopaths. when they get caught if she did this she's going to be in big trouble and it will destroy her life. >> do you think these guys are still together? >> well i think they're smart enough to stay together. usually prisoners will break out in groups and split up. but i remember when we caught the texas seven, those guys that escaped from the prison in texas, they call stayed together. they killed a police officer the first night they got out, broke into a sporting goods store and took 70 weapons. everybody said well

i mean charles manson is getting married. it's crazy. >> this is a prison worker.n prison workers not to do that kind of stuff? >> this is all about screening and how they pick people. when you look at any problem in the criminal justice system you have to look at the policy and procedure and figure out where they broke down. >> we don't know if this woman had any sort of romantic relationship with these men. the buffalo news did an interesting story. they talked with richard matt's son. he's 23 years old. he said you know he has escaped before. he has a genius i.q. i can't believe they let this happen. quote, he said he made it up to the roof of the prison and got shot in the shoulder. he pulled down his shirt and showed us the bullet wound. he's been shot like nine times. it's like they can't kill him. if this guy is caught do you think he'll go down peacefully? >> no i don't think this will go down peacefully unfortunately. if they break into a house they could steal guns and have access to ammunition. these guys have brutally murdered people. >> the neighbor th

there was an effort to get the manson woman out.tacted by some of the prison guards advocating and asking me to get involved as an organizational feminist. because look, you have these people in there who are in there for decades. they bond. and that's one of the things that has to be dealt with. charles: prisoners bond with the guards? >> and the staff. it's a community effectively. suddenly there's an interest in the nature of what happens with these people. that's a major problem. it does have to operate in a certain way. especially the women's prisons. more so than the men's. as a community. that explains when you see someone for a period of years over and over again. >> so this is why we really have to think about men and women in correctional facilities. because you throw in the sexual attraction component and that's when you have a prison break. charles: yeah. >> all you have to do is watch orange is the new black. charles: we have officials moving toward the podium right now. let's take a look right here. it does look like i

. >>> breaking overnight, the famed prosecutor in the charles manson trial has died. vincent bugliosi was best known for the book "helter-skelter." he struggled with cancer for years and died in the l.a. hospital. he was 80 years old. now back to you, aaron. >>> dna experts will take the stand in the trial against jesse matthew. day two of his attempted murder, abduction and sexual assault trial. dna evidence from the fingernail connected matthew to the attack. he is linked but not charged in morgan harrington's murder. her parents were in court to offer support. >> i hope that she finds the closure andton justice -- and the justice that this great system of ours can deliver. >> matthew is also charged with the murder of uva student hannah graham however it is unlikely her case will be mentioned in the trial. prosecutors agreed not to present evidence in that case. >>> 5:04 is your time right now. it's decision day if you live in virginia and polls open at 6:00 for primaries across the commonwealth. here are some of the races we're watching. in alexandria, bill euille