you can see the flowers just lining this whole block. >> let's bring in marc morial president and ceoe. always great to have you. >> i thanks good afternoon. >> looking what the we've seen in this past week in charleston how do you make sense of this? >> you can't make sense of it. it was a lensless hateful, heinous act. but all we can do as people is try hard to rise and, as you see in these pictures come together and fight back against hatred division, intolerance, the kinds of things that give root to the act of -- yeah acting alone but certainly influenced by the ideology of hate and supremacy. so these were not heroes. nine ordinary american one who happened to be a pastor and a public servant but people who were doing and living their lives in the right way who find themselves the senseless, needless victims of this act of violence. so this is a time and i think it's an extraordinary time when we can and we must come together with purpose and i do think that means that the flag must absolutely go. we have to come together with purpose and there has to be a new resolve to ferret

as you can imagine that explanation is not going over with the president's critics on this marc morialt of the national urban league ad this to say quote, the "n" word never had a positive meaning. it was designed and that word deserves to be along the confederate flag the hood, the museum the noose. the white house legitimizing issue when it came up at the press briefing yesterday. we've got another one scheduled right now. we'll watch that to see if he is asked about it again. >> he probably will be. i got to tell you as a black man there is only one time i use the "n" word, when i feel like i'm being trited like the "n" word and i want to make a statement, there is one thing worse than the "n" word being treated like the "n" word. it is interesting to have any civil rights organization say they're against it when they give out plaques trophies to certificates to the rappers whose every other lyric is n word and phony connotation by hijacking the word they're lessening the meaning of it and they have taken power and control over the word. no you have not. and, so i, it is so tough be

marc morial you are the president of the national urban league. you see this vigil under way.that church. what goes through your mind? >> you know wolf this is a great outpouring to see clergy there, black and white, to see citizens united in strength and in unity to push back against what has occurred and to really comfort these families is really the essence of the best of what the people of south carolina have to represent. and it's part of this process of healing and coming together. this is moving. and i hope that across the nation this weekend that people will gather in their houses of worship, in their homes with their friends and commit to resolve to build a better nation and to push back against racial division and religious division and to push back against hate which was at the very root of this heinous crime. so this is what i think we want to see. wolf there will be so much more on this. i think that the policy and the political conversations are going to continue. i would like to certainly encourage everyone who is in a leadership position you have a responsibili