i like marco. is a good friend of mine, but we have already had a one term senator president, we saw how well he ran the government. and marco compared himself to that last night. i don't think that is the experience we want. marco is a good guy and a credible candidate. but i have more executive experience. mark: maturity -- not personal but political. do you have more political maturity? gov. christie: i have more political maturity to anybody on that stage. i have wrote in the toughest media market in the country for 13 years as a republican. you take a lot of hits and knocks and here i am standing in speaking my mind in continuing to move forward. and i think that shows enormous amount of maturity, and that's what you need against hillary. know, face it, mark, you that race last night -- they think it was hard questiod? last night was tiddlywinks compared to next year. mark: what have you accomplished as governor? what would you take a washington as president? gov. christie: i would take on tou

maybe marco rubio or maybe marco rubio and ted cruz. that would be the power of donald trump and ben carson and several others. that is not said and done. >> it is interesting. you heard ted cruz he is not the guy to have a beer with, but share a hash brownie with the moderators after the debate. that got a lot of laughs. trump, he to an extent, stayed above the fray or much of the fray last night. he sort of drifted back. willingly so. he undercut kasich and went after the moderators, but let everything else play out. >> i put donald trump in the winners category for that reason. we saw a different donald trump last night. for the first time in one of the republican debates, he was not doing personal attacks against other candidates. when he did go on the attack, it was only against john kasich. only after kasich launched at him. he did not respond on your hair likes like this. he said you worked at lehman brothers and called him out for the way that he was couching ohio's economic success. i thought we saw donald trump who came across

is marco rubio now the front runner?ark: he is not that he has put himself in a position to be the establishment choice. he will raise more money. will he catch on with voters? you wrote that his poll numbers will go up, but let's see if it goes up in a sustained way. but states will he win? john: when we did our focus groups, voters who are impressed with his performance in simi valley. his numbers did not move much but this moment is going to get 100 times more attention. everybody has seen it. i think his poll numbers are going to go up and he was already on her role going into it. i don't necessarily think he will be the nominee, i think donald trump is more likely, that he is in the best position to consolidate the establishment vote. mark: when he was criticized for his spending habits, which is one of his vulnerabilities, he likened it to a criticism in the media. he is going to go to the conservative base and say this is just the left wing media. he has inoculated himself against these attacks. john: very smart a

marco rubio has caught up to him. they are competing for the same space, the establishment candidate in the race. governor kasich as well. competing for a lot of the same money and a lot of florida donors friends with both of them going to jeb first but they are saying come on, governor, you're the front-runner and show us the fight to be in this. he's had to make the rubio is obama argument, why do we want to send another freshman senator to washington. he's not ready to be president. that could be a stronger argument. republicans have argued for the past seven years that obama wasn't ready for the job. rubio's attendance issue may well be a factor in the campaign but in the debate tonight game, set, match. >> and i want to bring in jeffrey lord, trump supporter and a former ted cruz contributor and writer. >> could somebody please just get me that tequila. >> and donna brazile. >> i'm going to give her the marijuana. >> ana, you can't dodge it any longer. how do you think your guy did tonight? >> i think the mets ar

marco rubio is his own man.yes, jeb has helped him throughout his career tremendously, has given him a certain platform and stature, but marco rubio is his own man. i met marco rubio back in 2009. i was a political reporter here in southwest florida. marco at the time was running for the u.s. senate against charlie crist. at the time governor crist had the highest approval ratings in the united states of america. at that time marco could not get ten people to sit down with him at a lunch. and now where are we today? marco's running for president after being in the u.s. senate. and charlie crist is running as a democrat for the united states congress. marco rubio has some serious political chops, and he's shown us that through most especially this last debate. >> rick, you had this tweet that a lot of people pointed to, this is right before the debate, says the following, "man, oh man, the dumb replanned move a certain campaign is about to make in the big debate is campaign-ending stupid." a lot of people thought

but not marco rubio. just like everyone else who's a senator today, marco rubio had to spend years begging for money, massive amounts of money, tens of millions of dollars to then finance a grueling campaign, and in his case, a grueling campaign in a very large state. >> god bless you, thank you and god bless america. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. >> why did he do all that? just for that? that lekd bask in the applause of his campaign victory speech? we now know that marco rubio did not spend years begging people for money to fund his senate campaign so he could get washington and do the work that he loves, representing the 20 million people of the state of florida. he doesn't love that work. he just told us that today. but he had already made that very clear, just made it really clear how much he doesn't love that work, because he is the united states senator with the worst attendance record in the united states senate. >> 29% of the time over last year you were not in attendance when votes

marco rubio. he had a good night. he took an attack from jeb bush and turned it around. he took the criticism from the sun sentinel. let's listen about how he defended and turned around that criticism from the media to his benefit. >> i read that editorial today with great amusement. it is evidence of the bias that exists in the american media today. >> let me answer your question. back in 2004, one of my predecessors ran for president. missing over 30% of his votes. i don't recall people asking for his resignation. john kerry ran for president missing close to 60% of his votes. i don't recall. the sun sentinel endorsed him. obama missed 60% of his votes. the same newspaper endorsed him. this is a double standard that exists between mainstream media. >> and marco rubio making the most of that moment. >> was there a candidate last night who did not go after the mainstream media or moderators? it seems like all of them had their turn. it is something that will play well with that audience. rubio has

if you are looking at marco rubio, that is something, all those factors should be approved for marco rubio, you can see two sides of that and it will be interesting to see how the gop looks at them. >> if we could have a two term president this is a party that is hungry to win and there would be a very good thing so keep on with that talking point. jenna: you tell the truth. you don't try to play it. >> pete and i can disagree but i believe bush would be the emperor one for hillary. jenna: polls are not predictive of what will happen next year but it is an interesting snapshot and we will get those new numbers early next week sometimes and we will see how that is influencing the campaign. great to have you both, thank you very much. what will happen during the next debate is the big question. a lot of focus on the next debate with the fox business channel which will be great, that will be tuesday november 10th at 6:00 p.m. at the prime time the day at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. gregg: we have never seen joe be anything but brutally honest. isn't the meantime the u.s. senate votes to sen

it wasn't marco. ted cruz won one part of it, marco won one part of it. at the end. >> chris christie. >> chris christie did well. >> marco rubio's personal finances have been turned into political hay during the campaign. everything from a boat he bought to mingling campaign money with personal money. >> you face foreclosure on a second home you bought and just last year liquidated a $60,000 retirement fund. it raises the question whether you have maturity and the wisdom to lead a $17 trillion economy. >> you just listed -- i'm going to tell you the truth. here's the truth. >> first of all, that's just, steve bratner, he just lied. he lied to people. again, if he wants to lie, politicians lie. if he wants to lie, that's fine. but nobody follows up and says you're lying, marco. it's mind boggling how incompetent some of the people on the stage were. >> he dismissed it all and said this was discredited. what becky quick went through and there's a lot more in terms of how he handled his personal finances is true. it is what it is. all the stuff with the ira

once again, the attack of marco rubio failed. >> marco, when you signed up with this, it's a six-yearerm and you should be showing up and his campaign promised that's what would happen. brianna keilar is "outfront" tonight covering jeb bush in new hampshire. what is the campaign saying tonight after that debate performance? >> reporter: erin, they are insisting that their campaign has the funds, that they have the ground game. those folks on the ground in these key early states. what we saw today here in portsmouth, new hampshire, was a frustrated jeb bush bush and as you have republicans who have long wanted him to be the nominee, they have been supporting him, he's insisting that he still has the organization, the money and perhaps the most importantly the heart to see this campaign through. >> it's not on life support. we have the most organization. we're doing fine. >> jeb bush is back on the trail today trying to convince voters that his campaign is not on life support. >> it's not about the big personalities on stage. it's not about performance. it's about leadership. >> reporte

can he still use this line about marco rubio? sure. last night marco rubio did a pretty darn good job of diffusing that. if jeb bush isn't able to do that during a debate when most people are watching as much as that pains me to say because they are awesome but the bigger forums is where it is time to perform and jeb bush hasn't been able to do that. >> watching that happen last night marco rubio when initially asked he invokes john kerry, barack obama, bernie sanders saying they all missed votes. this is media ganging up on me because i'm a republican. if you are jeb bush it seems like an opening obama missed votes, sanders missed votes but we are republicans, we are better than that. he went down a completely different road. it raised the question to me is he up to it in general the task, challenge of standing on stage and being on his feet. >> he had a reasonable line saying look, this newspaper calling for you to resign endorsed you. it wasn't that the material he had been given was so bad but his delivery was bad. i think the ques

i think marco obviously is a very talented debater. marco has good zingers.aign. in the broader debate, in the broader debate over who do voters trust to do the job, marco's been in the senate for six years. he hasn't done anything. he didn't show up for votes not just before he started to run for president. but long before. jeb bush worked every single day. every moment in florida. he had a clock on his desk counting down those eight years to make sure he got as much done as possible for the people of florida. he balanced eight budgets. he turned the educated indication system around. that's what this is about. who can do the job. in that broader debate, who has the leadership skills to get the job done. jeb is going to beat marco and everybody else on that stage. >> tim, last night, governor bush was asked about his weakness, where he had a real moment of probably honesty where he talks about what his weakness is. let me play that for the viewers. >> i am by my nature and patience and this is not an endeavor that rewards that. you've got to be patient and y

i went for marco rubio. he was able to relate things in personal terms that would connect with the voter. he was a great communicator in that. as far as the loser, mr. trump, you are definitely getting fired when it comes to economic issues. your challenge by a hack serious debate moderator about your tax plan and all you can say is larry culto likes it like a child. you are not ready for prime time. what do you think in terms of immigration? >> immigration is a very complex issue. john kasich waudz the only candidate who really pointed that out. no matter where you stand you need to be able to approach it from a realistic and pragmatic view. adds for a loser jeb bush, he abandoned his core immigration just so he could try to get something going in the polls. >> winner or loser on immigration? >> i agree with kasich. he explains it pretty detailed. the only person who has experience with immigration at a federal level is marco rubio. he played a cheap trick yesterday saying this waiting period he spoke of co

the standout is marco rubio. i don't think we can sort of overstate how important this night was for marco rubio. i think it could be a potential dynamic shift in the race in that establishment wing where it's really been a battle between jeb bush and marco rubio. delivering a body blow to him at a very precarious time in his campaign. and rubio comes out shining. you could just see the establishment that's been worried about jeb bush just starting to gravitate towards rubio. >> do you think this is going to be the new tactic, take on the media? it started with dobd trump. it started to work where he said people are taking him out of context. he started going after the media and then ben carson started to do it. do you think that's gong to be the tactic? tonight, everyone at the debate, the entire campaign started with donald trump. do you think that's going to be the go-to tactic? >> i don't think there's any question. look, americans' trust in the media is reaching all-time lows. certainly conservative swrus on

marco rubio was put under stregs and shined.id that extraordinary summation repurposing, repackaging of all the attacks on the candidates. you need to see chris christie be funny with his rude joke, take over the debate with his fantasy football. the debate we did at the reagan library in simi valley. you need to see carly fiorina stand up and assert that she deserves to be on the main stage. you need so see donald trump stating that he renegotiated the debate to be two hours. i talk with mark preston and the cnn team and with jake and dana, practice on making sure that the voter who is going to cast a ballot is served by that period of time. i think they were in simi valley. i think they were by anderson's debate with the democrats. i kaen n -- cannot imagine fivee debate s wi debates with hillary clinton and bernie sanders. we want to see you answering tough questions, what are you going to do about isis in syria? what are you going to do about the f-35, the ohio class replacement submarine. marco rubio is 43. ted cruz is 44.

marco rubio.> i started to think maybe the moderators were pursuing a herb brooks type strategy. you know? maybe they're republicans and tried to unite the party by being the foil. >> only one republican tried to join them, jeb bush tried to get in on the play to piggy back on an attack on marco rubio and got run over like he got run over by the marching band. >> how about personalization and the i, i, i, i too have student loans and our cause. talking about working women. our cause. >> you know, it didn't seem like they were focused for the most part on questions that, you know this is supposed to be a debate about the economy and jobs. they were so personal and the tone seemed to condescending. and many points moderators lost control so there was a lot of shouting and parts were just sloppy. so they were trying to pin down druch on something. and she said, where did i need this? how did i come up with this? you have researched it. here is the article, mr. trump. >> you have evidence right there.

marco rubio comes off as a happy warrior. you know, he made a joke about his book and how it's on sale as a paperback. he made reference to his mother and how he's against anything that harms his mother. i think that gave people a lightness about him and a positive feeling as opposed to some of the other candidates who are more like skulls. >> why is cruz somebody to watch going forward? >> watch ted cruz. ted cruz has been shrewd in his strategy. he's deliberately contrasting himself in a subtle way with the marco rubio, the happy warrior. he's trying to channel conservative anger. he's being very specific in trying to tag evangelical voter, tea party voters. he feels they are up for grabs. that's why you see him rising in the polls. you may end up in the end with a race that pits cruz against more of a marco rubio candidate who is more of the kind of big tent person. >> exactly. we are seeing that marco rubio and cruz are the two candidates with a plan going forward. they have an idea of who they want to appeal to and how t

he is going after marco rubio and sent a case to marco rubio to mock he is a sweater.ance beating trump than bush? >> i don't know. it's too early to tell. i do think that this is part of donald trump's persona and schtick he's got to continue feeding. he has got to continue creating headlines, causing controversy we talk about. this is one of the ways of doing it and trolling people, including his opponents. it's a testament to marco's rise in the polls. donald trump doesn't bother with asterisks. >> does jeb bush stay in this till the end? >> hell, yes. >> he stays for quite a while. if you're the bush campaign, you're worried. rubio is ahead of bush in the polls. >> jeb bush has the money. >> and they are putting money on the air, super pac ads on the air if they don't push bush's numbers, i think they'll worry. he's a fighter. at the end of the day we have actual votes, caucus february 1st in iowa. let's see what happens there. we cannot underestimate how shocking bush is doing so poorly. >> i saw jeb bush sunday. i can tell you that there is a lot of patience and

i want to go back to jeb and marco. believe tonight jeb bush becomes the also-ran of the establishment. marco rubio has eclipsed jeb bush in the eyes of i believe many donors after tonight. and i'm seeing a real shift online. you know, the weekly standard has a big piece out, during the debate, we're writing about it on live set. marco rubio knew what jeb was going to do. he made jeb bush look like a small person and i don't think that works. >> your reaction, steve hayes? >> i agree with laura. this is a bad night for jeb bush. he lost that exchange and had several other moments where he didn't seem to know what he was doing. marco rubio had an answer to every single question he was asked. i agree with you about ted cruz. that's one of the highlights of the debate. cruz will see some bounce out of this debate. he conducted himself very well and made several really good arguments. >> when we come back, the debate is officially over. we have donald trump, senator ted cruz, senator marco rubio and more of the gop presiden

marco rubio may be a more likely republican nominee than jeb bush. jeb and marco have a mr.i-karate kid thing going on. except i don't remember the part pat tried to where up mr. miyagi. which is kind of what happened this morning on morning joe when i asked jeb his old mentee's ability to lead. john: let me ask you about marco rubio. there's a quote attributed to you yesterday. you compared him to president obama, saying he didn't have the leadership skills to fix things. are you saying that senator rubio does not have the leadership skills to fix things? governor bush: there were two thoughts in that sentence that i had, but i think i have the skills to fix things. marco was a member of the house of representatives when i was governor, and he followed my lead. i'm proud of that. john: but you don't think he has the leadership skills to fix things? governor bush: no. barack obama did not end up having them. and he won an election based on the belief that people had that he could, and he didn't even try. john: mark, on the basis of that, how do you think jeb is dealing with

i don't know. >> you had talked a little bit about marco rubio. i think you called him mark zuckerberg's personal senator because he was in favor of the visas. >> i never said this. >> this was an erroneous article. >> there's another gentleman in forwa forward. >> really doing some bad fact-checking. >> twice here he's saying didn't attack rubio. i didn't attack mark zuckerberg and never said anything about this. where on earth did she get this idea? funny enough, you know where she got it, she got it the from donald trump's website where he says mark zuckerberg's personal senator marco rubio has a bill to triple h1bs, the visas that we're talking about that would decimate women and minorities. the bottom line is trump tried to bluff her. he tried to do it twice. she called him on the bluff, and she was right. his claim was false. anderson. >> tom, thanks very much. jeffrey lord, a diehard supporter of donald trump. >> i believe he did not say it was on -- it was never on my wednesday i'm i think he said i never said it. >> uh-oh. >> it depends o

in that clip can, you saw jeb bush go after marco rubio and marco rubio took the sting out of bush's offensive. let's talk about all of the above with craig robinson and lisa booth, vice president of polling at wpa research. awesome having both of you on. thank you for joining me. craig, to you first. what is going on with jeb bush? with that kind of performance, when will money start drying up? >> i think it's going to start drying up right away. that was a really bad debate performance. not only did he lose the exchange with senator rubio, but the chris christie hit on him for talking about fantasy football was especially damaging. jeb bush is saying today that he wasn't asked any substantiative questions. yet last night he was asked a question that he didn't want, but he decided to talk about his fantasy football team. so if jeb wants to be serious, let's be serious. change the subject. you don't have to answer directly the questions that a moderator poses to you. it seems like he's incapable of steer i steering the discussion. and in any campaign, you have to be able to do that.

marco rubio may be a more likely republican nominee than jeb bush. jeb and marco have headache mr.i karate kid thing going on. which is kind of what happened this morning on morning joe when i asked jeb how his old mentee's ability to lead. john: let me ask you about marco rubio. there's a quote attributed to you yesterday. president obama didn't have the leaders get -- the leadership skills to fix things. are you saying that senator rubio does not have the later skip -- leadership skills to fix things? jeb bush: i think i have the skills to fix things. marco was a member of the house revisited is when i was governor, and he followed my late. john: but you don't think he has the leadership skills to fix things? jeb bush: no. he didn't end up -- barack obama did not end up having them. people elected him on the basis that he could, but he didn't even try. john: how do you think jeb is dealing with the marco rubio threat? mark: that's a line of argument he will have to take. based on senator rubio's asian experience -- age and experience, that is potentially effective. but his heart

marco rubio had a phenomenal appearance. i think he came across as the most composed individual, whether it's immigration plan or tax reform. >> dagen: stepping away from it, the outsiders did not have the best night, it was the political pros who stood out. even ted cruz, marco rubio and even chris christie. >> anastasia: you can't argue with fiorina. she got a few round of applauses, you're right. she was not the show-stopper this time around. >> michael: you're going to see cruz's numbers go up. you're going to see cruz get those numbers whether we like that or not. >> sandra: yeah. it's interesting battle and bolder, headline there. no, i mean, pete, if anybody does walk away a winner from all this, some headlines are saying hillary clinton walked away a winner from that debate last night. who does walk away a winner from all this? >> i think marco rubio and ted cruz. i thought donald trump had a decent night. he didn't do himself any harm and had a handful of comments where he is defending others. i don't think anything

>> it's a marco rubio happy hour and a campaign rally. think expects 150 guests to show up near an hour. right now it'sÑi fairly empty bt they believe those guests will show up in 30 minutes. rubio did cancel an earlier event today here in iowa in order to stay in d.c. to partake in the vote. he hey been criticized for missing so many votes in the senate but this weekend is really rubio's time to shine in the latest iowa quinnipiac poll he came the third to dr. ben carson and donald trump. neither of those men will be in the state so rubio is the front-runner at his event tonight and an events later tonight, with three other g.o.p. presidential candidates and then tomorrow in des moines, iowa, with ten presidential candidates. so we'll see if he is able to make his case for the voters and keep bringing in that money. >> it doesn't look like happy hour right now but that's because it's a happy hour away. happy hour for me, show up a day ahead of time. he did vote in washington on the crucial piece of legislation that was accepted by the ra

turning up the heat to marco rubio. senator from florida leaves his mark on the cnbc republican debate, warning of ballooning federal debt. >> if we don't act now, we will be the first generation in american history that leaves our children worse off than ourselves. >> front-runners donald trump and ben carson feel the pressure. while carly fiorina warns of consolidation and g business. >> crony capitalism is what happens when government gets so big and so powerful that only the big and powerful can handle it. this is how socialism starts >> the fed leaves december open for a rate hike. ted cruz saying its priorities are out of line. >> i think the fed should get out of the business of trying to juice our economy and simply be focused on sound money and monetary stability. >> another inversion on the horizon. reports suggest pfizer is in merger talks with allergan in what could be the biggest takeover of the year and allow to redomicile to ireland. >> good thursday morning. just one day closer to the weekend and the day

marco rubio.> i started to think maybe the moderators were pursuing a herb brooks type strategy. you know? maybe they're republicans and tried to unite the party by being the foil. >> only one republican tried to join them, jeb bush tried to get in on the play to piggy back on an attack on marco rubio and got run over like he got run over by the marching band. >> how about personalization and the i, i, i, i too have student loans and our cause. talking about working women. our cause. >> you know, it didn't seem like they were focused for the most part on questions that, you know this is supposed to be a debate about the economy and jobs. they were so personal and the tone seemed to condescending. and many points moderators lost control so there was a lot of shouting and parts were just sloppy. so they were trying to pin down druch on something. and she said, where did i need this? how did i come up with this? you have researched it. here is the article, mr. trump. >> you have evidence right there.

marco rubio: donald trump said last week don't make a mistake -- marco rubio and governor bush hate eacher's guts. you are running against your mentor. what is the reality? marco rubio: that is not true. i have tremendous admiration for him. there are a lot of other people and i am running for president and ultimately voters will decide. john: the main event was his aforementioned speech at civic call where he focused on the american people and what he called the sharing economy. he talked about government regulation and made a reference to america's favorite bygone video rentals store. favorite way to block an innovative competitor is to create a regulatory impediment to that competitor. i always use the example -- imagine blockbuster video, if they had convinced the federal government to pass a regulation saying in order to rent movies you must come into a physical store and show your id, because we want to prevent underage kids from renting radar movies. -- rated "r" movies. that is the kind of mentality. they find a public safety argument and they use it to create a roadblock that th

marco rubio is a lightweight.gine that he goes anywhere. >> he's a very insecure person. he doesn't like to be criticized. the presidency's a tough job. you are going to be criticized. you can't flip out every time somebody says something about you. he does. i'm not interested in the back and forth to be a member or part of the freak show. who knows what donald is trying to do. who cares? >> here is jamie weinstein and michael cohen. that's pretty harsh. marco rubio, smart, intelligent, was former speaker of the house in florida. why is this even going on this way? >> first of all, mr. trump didn't start it. and we talk about this -- >> what did marco do to start it? >> marco rubio made a comment about mr. trump. it was obviously a negative comment. >> what did he say? >> i don't remember what he said but something that trump is not a serious candidate. he is a serious candidate. going into the whole issue of the polls, the last seven polls that came out has mr. trump anywhere between 34 and 29 where they have rub

and we talk about this -- >> what did marco do to start it? >> marco rubio made a comment about mr.mp. it was obviously a negative comment. >> what did he say? >> i don't remember what he said but something that trump is not a serious candidate. he is a serious candidate. going into the whole issue of the polls, the last seven polls that came out has mr. trump anywhere between 34 and 29 where they have rubio at 12 to 5. this isn't the contest. this is like a white belt versus a black belt. >> so then if that's the case, why would he pay attention to somebody that he doesn't even view as competition? >> he doesn't view him as competition, but donald trump's a counterpuncher. if you come at him, he's going to set the table. his table is come at me and i'll come back at you and i'll hit you so hard you're going to be gone from this race. >> i'll hit you so hard that your mother will feel the vibrations. jamie, what's your reaction to all this? >> donald trump is endlessly entertaining, but i think he's attacking rubio now because he sees rubio as a real threat. michael's right, rubio i

and at some point marco rubio has to be responsible.f he's not responsible voting, he's not responsible with his budget, where is he responsible? >> i think he's going to vote more, i think he got the point the last debate and i'm sure his campaign is saying, look, if this is all we have to do, then we're going to vote more. >> i have to get to a commercial. ben, you are right he did cancel a campaign in iowa late thursday night to vote no on the budget deal. gentlemen, stay with me. quick break, we're going to be back in a moment. barack obama elected on a promise to end america's wars is now expanding the u.s. front in the fight against isis in syria with american boots on the ground headed there. the white house press secretary also had this to say. >> this is an important thing for the american people to understand. these forces do not have a combat mission. >> so what will this operation look like, what will it mean against isis? that's next. vo: today's the day. more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-act

that's what i see in marco rubio." moments ago he told nbc news that taxpayers in this country and florida are being ripped off by him." >>> marco, when you signed up for this, this was a six-year term and you should be showing up to work. i mean, literally, the senate, what is it, like a french work week? you get like three days where you have to show up? you can campaign. or just resign and let someone else take the job. >> well, it's interesting. over the last few weeks i've looked into jeb as he walked around the country and said you're modeling your campaign after john mccain, that you're going to launch a furious comeback the way he did. by fighting hard in new hampshire and places like that, carrying your own bag at the airport. you know how many votes john mccain missed when he was carrying out that furious comeback that you're now modeling? jeb, i don't remember -- well, let me tell you, i don't remember you ever complaining about john mccain's vote record. the only reason you're doing it now is because we're

marco is a u.s. senator from florida. he's also a former speaker of the house from florida. he is a -- he's an all-around great guy. he comes from very humble beginnings, and i proudly -- and i will proudly endorse senator marco rubio. thank you, senator, for coming, and please give senator marco rubio a very warm welcome. [applause]

marco rubio is very adept at that.i think he has more serious structural problems which have to do with is the gop ready to elect the first latino. he was elected out of florida. florida is very different than the rest of the country. sk and second of all, the issue of immigration. i can't forget that donald trump rose because of his anti-immigrant record. and marco rubio is trying to dodge the immigration issue. but ultimately it will come back to haunt him. >> one of the knocks in that powerpoint presentation from the bush folks, he's the gop's barack obama. he is young, relatively new to the national scene. the first latino candidate versus the first black president. but i wonder, is it possibly an argument that works in rubio's favor in that he can say i have all the appeal of barack obama, the political appeal of barack obama but with a conservative message? >> well, we should remember barack obama won twice and one pretty handedly. so it's kind of an odd thing. i think what we are seeing is two elections going on

finally on marco rubio, he raised just $5.7 million, the equivalent of 171 luxury boats, the way marcoubio defines them. fundraising picked up after a slow summer. it still doesn't look that great. what interests you most? mark: jeb bush is not a shock and awe type of campaigning. if you said he would have a quarter where he laid substantially less than ben carson that would be a problem. for hillary clinton, to be a strong fundraising candidate you can't just be a strong donation candidate, she needs to do better on the internet. john: that burn rate is scary. 86% burn rate. you are spending all that money. 13.2 would be a respectful number if you weren't spending at all. he is spending it at his numbers are going down. it looked like a pretty good number for him. if you dig into the detail that dig into the details that number doesn't look nearly as good. mark: you have a clinton campaign and bush super pac spending all this on tv. if they are spending the bulk of the money on ads and they aren't actually helping them improve, somebody messed up. john: let's not forget marco rubio. h

thank you, senator, for coming, and please give senator marco rubio a very warm welcome. [applause] senator rubio: thank you, thank

you know, he went after marco in that debate. he was unable to win the point. marco did it. think he's misread most political opportunities that have come up. another good example, he's been calling marco rubio the gop obama. you know, obama won, twice, one time against hillary clinton. so actually i think that sort of missed the mark and gave marco rubio -- gave voters a vision of someone who can come out of the republican field and win a general election. >> i think you make a great point. i don't know if you caught my interview with governor kasich at the outset. what he said was what i expected jeb was going to say. he's a guy who two years ago said, you've got to be prepared to lose primaries to win the general. gob, i ha bob, i have to ask you about ben carson. there was controversy raised in the debate about his association with mannatech. here's the question that was asked. >> this is a company called mannatech, a maker of nutritional supplements, with which you had a ten-year relationship. they offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer. they paid $7 million

you're someone marco rubio represents. is his attendance record acceptable to you? >> well, look, i'm happy he was in washington, d.c., today casting a vote against a bad budget. everybody recognized that budget wasn't good for the united states of america. i consider him a friend but i'm glad he's going to vote. i think it's important since that's what we sent him up there to do. this is not going to be about what somebody's voting record is or how often they go to vote. it's going to be about who is ready to lead the united states of america into the 21st century with the real challenges that we're facing. >> the criticism, ben, of course is that it's not just about voting. yes, others having voted. there's comparison to his voting record compared to others and jeb bush said he's always trying to get the job he doesn't have, he's never satisfied with where he is. what do you say to that? >> being younger, i've been hearing that my entire life, too. you need to wait your turn and who do you think you are? it's obvious that jeb bush has a huge problem with someone h

marco: that's a good question. begin by saying defense spending is not the reason we debt.he i agree about the waste. throw awayever taxpayer money. i support reforms in contracting. competitive in defense contracting. any of you that are in business know this, if there's only one on the project, you are not going to get the best price. no doubt we need to do a better job it have. we need to understand the faces aree nation significant. economic implications are greater than they've ever been. this is the most powerful nation on earth. this is the most important nation or country in the world. the largest economy in the world. impacted bykly global instability. one of the things that helps ensure global instability is a military.. it prevents war. every time we've cut defense spending, we've had to come back later and make up for it. it costs a lot more money. fundamental misunderstanding about the debt. the issue with the debt isn't just the sheer amount of dollars. we represents as a for thage of the overall econ

marco?e plays both inside and out. >> here's the other thing he's gifted at, the raw, and the buchanan line, political athlete. look how he talked about tax policy tonight. he said, let me tell you about my dry cleaner. that's what bill clinton does so well, what george w. bush does. jeb bush was up there telling you the facts of the things he cut and all this stuff. all very -- >> how did he learn this? that's a rotating speakership, ashley. it's not like john mccormack or san raburn. you get it in the third or fo fourth term you're in there and don't have it again. how did he get the talent so quickly? >> he's a natural communicator. to chuck's point about the donors watching this, when they watch and this is what they hear, they see rubio as a smart investment because he either gets the nomination this team, or if he doesn't, he gets it next time or he's vice president. >> if you were teaching political debate, what you would hear and watch in him is not the attack, but the grab. a lot of

who is winning marco rubio. donald trump had a big night, although i'm not a trump fan, and ted cruz looking alive. >> remember when scott walker dropped out, the idea was, i hope you find someone to rally around to counter at the time donald trump and now that might be ben carson, but what do you make of that and whether the rallying figure might be a marco rubio right now? >> the history of the republican party is always -- almost always an insurgent candidate who gets 20, 25, 30% of the vote, and then you have a mainstream establishment conservative candidate. the two go man mano ao and the history is the mainstream' candidate wins you. have to say rubio has the best chance. what is so interesting to me about this is rubeover was really a tea party candidate. he took on the republican establishment front-runner, charlie crist, the former governor of florida in the republican primary against everybody's wishes in washington and rubio prevailed. show. he has a lot of interesting things he can bring to this. now

marco rubio was not happy about this. he had to say on abc. >> first of all, i find it outrageous she's using video from a benghazi hearing, the loss of four lives, for her to brush something off her shoulder. that was a serious hearing about a serious issue. >> s.e., thoughts? >> i agree. look, you can't argue that hillary, you know, didn't have a good day that day. i thought the hearing revealed her to be a liar, but at the same time, she got through it pretty well. i found the spiking the football after what should be a hearing over a very serious issue to be really offensive. she didn't only do it there. she did it on the rachel maddow show, talking about how she went home, had indian food with her family. it's not a little, it's a lot glib about the nature of that hearing. whether you think it was partisan in nature or not, at the root of the hearing is a very serious investigation about very serious charges and failures over which she was overseeing. so, if i were her, i would take the small win -- the smulall wi of

marco rubio. supporters are happy that he was trick-or-treating in the part of town where the king size baby ruths reside. they say he is now the go-to guy in the non-grievance candidate bracket. speaking of swagger, a memo today saying that marco is only one of four candidates who can win the nomination. who was left out of that? john ellis bush bush. and david brooks went even further than that saying that review is the most likely standardbearer. it is the rubio stock currently overpriced? mark: it is hot. it is rising in a lot of metrics, but until he rises in the polls and shows that he can turn this good fortune into money, he is overvalued. but make no mistake in the file psy-ops war between rubio and bush, rubio is winning. it is intentional -- john: provocative. mark: it is meant to crush bush's spirit. john: not just to crush bush's spirit but to draw him into attacking mark moore. they want him to attack him to attack them over the voting records because they think it makes bush look sm