margaret thatcher and jesse helms work cut from the same cloth. they were charged in the and, north carolina tottenham that they were built with a home in a family, not with programs and bureaucrats. they're protestant morality and from their politics. evil to them was not an in politics term. evil was a threat to be confronted and destroyed. in the mid 1970s, when mrs. statues leader to the leader of the conservative party. her focus was to reach out to potential allies across the ocean, and she decided to come to the united states when james callaghan denied her the use of the british embassy. she conducted meetings with famous americans, william buckley, who called his friend jesse helms and said i need a favor. and in an office or somebody i want you to me, she just like you, she does from middle england, but she wants to meet your friends. out of that one phone call, mrs. that she began a journey that not only transformed the united kingdom, but let her to a role as john the baptist, heralding the arrival of ronald reagan a few days later. an

margaret thatcher and jesse helms, global totalitarianism. senator helms used to say they don't understand. i don't care and neither does mike but no one was ever neutral about either of them and that is a testament to what they thought politics should be. not a total of they now let you but battleground for passion and ideas. never lost an election and that is what is often forgotten and they understood freedom better than many of their critics. senator helms resolutely believed american freedom required massive national defense. he told the veterans of foreign wars in 1973 sooner or later week america will be challenged. sooner or later a week america will have to fight or surrender. senator helms, in that small town in southwestern north carolina understood better than anybody, he said on that day the fighting will be done but it will be done is always done, by the average man, by the fellow runs the gas station, the fellow runs the little grocery store in north carolina and the barbers of north carolina, and people carrying rifles and he

margaret thatcher and jesse helms cut from the same cloth. protestantism of their youth forged into small towns, middle legal and then the western north carolina. the nation was built on the home and family, not programs or bureaucrats. protestant morality informed their politics, churchill and jefferson -- evil to them was not an impolitic a turn to shy away from. evil was a threat to be confronted. in the mid-1970s when mrs. faster was elevated to leader of the conservative party her avowed purpose was to reach out to potential allies across the ocean and she decided to come to the united states, james callahan denied her the use of the embassy where people set up and conduct meetings with things. enter william f buckley, jesse helms said i need a favor. i need an office. just from middle england, she wants to meet your friends. out of that one phone call mrs. thatcher began a journey that normally transform the united kingdom, led to a role, john the baptist heralding the arrival of ronald reagan. margaret thatcher sat down with ronald rea

a matter of fact margaret thatcher wrote jesse helms record is unmatched. also it was well known as a bipartisan senator and him and joe biden were very close friends and to this day the vice president will talk fondly of his relationship with helms and in the archives we refer to those love letters that biden and helms shared that are open and they are on the website that they are unique. in 2001 when he announced his retirement, mead wrote in the wall street journal opinion section "as senator helms prepares to step down, i cannot see how it feels we are looking for something to wear an american politics of benefits principle first in loyalty before ambition and we could do a lot more like him. and of course senator helms admiration is very well documented in october 6, 2000 he said if america saved heritage there is the enormous role. finally i know they would be so proud not only be humbled by this lecture but also incredibly's impressed of the secretary who served on his staff and when secretary wilkie stepped away senator helms wrote the letter to him

margaret thatcher and jesse helms were cut from the same cloth. their youth forged in the small towns of middle england and western north carolina taught them that a nation is built on the home and the family, not with programs and bureaucrats. their protestant morality informed their politics. churchill and jefferson were their loadstars. evil to them was not an impolitic term to shy away from. evil was a threat to be confronted and destroyed. in the mid 1970s when mrs. thatcher was first elevated to the leader of the conservative party, her avout purpose was to reach out to potential allies across the ocean and she decided to come to the united states with the socialist prime minister of the united kingdom, james callahan, denied her the use of the british embassy where she could have set up an office and actually conducted meetings with famous americans. enter william f. buckley, called his friend, jesse helms, i need an office for somebody, she's sort of like you, she's just from middle england, but she wants to meet your friends. and out of t

had done and there were loads of things about margaret thatcher in the last month so if you searching... on the other hand people will find this quite difficult and i find it funny when you search for something and google auto complete plates and a full sentence which is completely wild and people regularly type in sentences. someone said that i do not think we are closer to solving language but this is a good step. we have another addition coming up at 11:30pm but clean collectors... i had to write that down phonetically. come back at 11:30pm and i will be back at the top of the hour but the headlines but for now for this hour, thank you to michael and don. another addition at the bottom of the ii another addition at the bottom of the 11 o'clock and at the mean time on the front pages on the website. you can watch it all back again on the bbc iplayer, see you at 11pm. hello again, happy and persistent outbreaks of rain will continue to affect parts of wales and england not just through that affect parts of wales and england notjust through that night—time but well on into s

, and fiow market was margaret thatcher, and now perversely we have the uk as the champion ofof commerce between ireland and britain. and now we are looking at the reimposition of that cost. even in those things that don't attract a tariff. this is very negative from her point of view. thank you very much indeed for joining us. more guests throughout the day. in a moment, the business news, first, the headlines. scotla nd business news, first, the headlines. scotland yard has been criticised for carrying out unlawful searches of the homes of suspects during its investigation into a vip paedophile ring which turned out not to exist. former conservative leadership candidate rory stewart has revealed he is leaving the party to run as an independent candidate for mayor of london. and the prime minister's chief adviser on europe is calling another round of talks in europe today aimed at breaking the brexit deadlock. hello, now the business news. the financial regulator says that insurance customers are overpaying about £1.2 billion a year for their home and car policies. the financ

he hosted everyone from ronald reagan to the dolly llama to as you can see here margaret thatcher.e are 1505 episodes of the show and were in the process of digitizing all of these shows and making them available online so people can enjoy and also use for scholarship. now we're looking at a rare photograph and this comes from the william collection. he's very interesting man who was at the office of strategic services and was one of the prosecutors and his job was to put in files of high-ranking nazis. he's actually the personal photograph album (inaudible) who was hitler's foreign minister and the picture show him signing the naughty certificate and then also those pictures you will find stalin. he looks very happy in this picture and is acquiring half of poland from this pact. it's very rare to see them all in one place and they were superstitious about how they were hunted by the circuit police. here it hoover we have a wonderful collection of the cold war and it's very interesting items during the period and it's a large oversight scrapbook that documents the life and exploits

to replace the privatised system to be introduced by margaret thatcher and it has never worked or beenbut this is a number of things being announced along with the withdrawal act and announced along with the withdrawal actand a announced along with the withdrawal act and a further 21 bills, including points —based immigration system, fast axis, environmental forms, and photographic identification polling stations.” thought they were going to take out photographs but apparently we have to turn up without picture. every photo i have ever taken for official documents, i look different so how are they going to get the right photograph for the right person!m you started from scratch, you probably would not choose the way we do things. you have this whole thing about... arejust do things. you have this whole thing about... are just turn do things. you have this whole thing about... arejust turn up, give my name 0!’ anyone about... arejust turn up, give my name or anyone else's about... arejust turn up, give my name 0!’ anyone else's name about... arejust turn up, give my name or anyone else'

. >> can i just gently say that if -- in relation to margaret thatcher if she wants to talk , about better treatment, she might have a word with the shadow chancellor. go back in time to assassinate her. that was not appropriate language on her side. she talked about labor's record. because of labour's economic mismanagement, we have seen unemployment rise by more than a quarter. we are proud -- female unemployment at record lows. i believe i am right in saying that the shadow home secretary has had her six questions. [jeering] >> margot james. >> does the right honorable gentlemen agree that legislation to establish a tough independent regulator of internet companies empowered to challenge the automatic right to anonymity online should be a priority for the queen speech? >> we want to make companies more responsible. especially for children. it also sets out measures to reinforce powers to issue fines if those companies put them at risk. >> it is a disgrace the prime minister is not here. since he was elected in july, he has only been to one prime minister's questions. quite simply, he is

i grew up under margaret thatcher. i looked up to the gipper ronald reagan as a hero.ut my life changed when i truly understood what my parents had lived through. because my father was a great athlete. he was on the national crew team for hungary when he was arrested by the communists and they never broke him. so he was a great bear of a man, he loved to swim, and on that day as i was sitting on the sand with my g.i. joe's he came out of the ocean, this amazing figure of a man, and i looked at him and i saw something i hadn't realized before. he had these lines on his ribs, these white lines. i knew he was far too young to be wrinkled on his wrists. so like a foolish child i asked him, hey, dad, what's that? without skipping a beat, no emotion, he responded, well, son, that's where the secret police bound my wrists together with wire behind my back so they could hang me from the eiling of the torture chamber. that's when my life changed forever. why? because from that sentence onward, i knew at a deep, deep is l in my soul that evil in the at evil exists hearts of men,

nelson mandela well mandela was called a terrorist by the british government declared as such by margaret thatcher and her ministers was declared a criminal by many western diplomats and even intellectuals videos tell his support for his support for mandela who defected libya oh of course of course khadafi was very honest and transparent with us people who worked closely with him and he said this he said to us make no mistake we are being punished for what we did not just for libya but for what we did for africa and many other developing countries and around that we are paying the price for supporting in some mandela for supporting the black race for supporting real politics of revolution could duffy was happy to fight until his death he knew he had many ways out he chose not to go out he was offered ways out even by african leaders who visited him during the war but he said if he goes out the very ideas he fought for will die in his death. his ideas will live and i believe. the ideas and the principles and the broader acts he lead will live on and we come back with such power in the future becaus

agreement deadline of a break to be 35 years to the day of the provisional brighton attempted murder margaret thatcher in the capital the tories were killed or injured and they keep the transitional media to get subscribe to a. match kaiser financial survival guide look what it does it you can convert it into that quite easily. to keep in mind. pleasure. or. just look. at us can ask a moment to laugh and ask for the last 70 and seeing and i'm interested they are the guides for who should commission. branches just shoot on disk in the. command. leachate mom. you know your new car so sit on the open much fame the mama is just back in there and i'm. thinking of getting a coupon the ones we got in here she was i didn't know it's still trapped in this tiny little wired punch we don't need a crate with him he will just. freaking out and he will want to spray him anywhere near and thousands of breeding dogs that caged in inhumane conditions on puppies i mean 67 years you know they've been locked up in a cage outside you see no protection from the weather the heat you know the courtier the rain the snow the f

superior in the sense that it embodies as margaret thatcher said, a right and it is not suitable for all people at all times but everyone not to aspire to it. so i say i am a nationalist. i want to make it available to people, and a lot of experience with civil society of democratic society. i am a mild nationalist. >> >> visit our website@booktv.org and click on the "after words" tab. >> booktv is television for serious readers, all weekend every weekend. join us again next saturday at 8:00 eastern for the best in nonfiction books. .. >> congress returns to capitol hill today after a two-week recess with house committees working on impeachment inquiries against president trump, legislation to lower prescription drug costs, and curbing the outsourcing of u.s. jobs. the senate continues work on the president executive and judicial nominations including air force secretary barbara baird. watch live gavel to gavel coverage of the house on c-span and the senate live on c-span2, online at c-span.org or listen live on the grid using the free c-span radio app. >> former u.s. ambassador to t

the headline is about the rail franchise system, since its inception under margaret thatcher, it hasrailtrack, as it was, back into a network rail, the franchises that actually run the trains are still in private hands. what the prime minister has suggested is a model based on performance and reliability. it means nobody is going to argue with the idea of reliability. nobody is going to say i think my train is too punctual, and i find it disconcerting. one of these things that has been announced, along with the withdrawal agreement bill, of course. laws to ensure faster access to medicine. yasmin and i were discussing this earlier, photographic identity at polling stations. what is that about? i think we are the most watched population in the western world, what is this? it is not being discussed, we don't know why they are doing it, i hope there are lots of groups that stand up and mps that fight this. why should we be watched when we put our boat into a box?|j when we put our boat into a box?” think a lot of people would agree thatjust turning think a lot of people would agree that

now while speakers long have faced accusations of bias from — margaret thatcher always felt he was against all these accusations against him of bias. however, as far as i'm aware, that was the first time that a speaker has spoken out on an issue of such controversy. and we have now got a commons committee, quite an influential commons committee, which says it will look at the role of speaker. so there are potentially changes to come? indeed. as i say, you can trace it back to that date. because for the first time, we knew how the speaker felt about a controversial issue. and from that day onwards, every decision he made from the chair was seen through that lens. so as a result, it could change the speakership. and ironically, john bercow has always positioned himself as a champion of the backbenchers. however, if there is a written constitution or changes made to the standing orders to limit the powers of a speaker, then backbenchers might well find themselves less powerful in the future as a result of his actions. let's talk about something else which has blighted john bercow‘s time in th

the brits decided to get you out, they literally commandeered margaret thatcher's private plane, theyut of northern ireland. correct. but you had to take your wife and your kids. they were given, what, an hour or two to pack? 0ne suitcase. leave everything. what impact did that have on your family on your family? well, i remember coming in and saying to mary, "look, i've been doing something for the last number of years and i've been caught." and... were you honest? did you say mary, i have essentially lived a lie with you for these last nine years or whatever it was. and now, because of my lying, you and the kids have to get on this plane and you'll probably never see northern ireland again? well, over the years, i used to think, "i wonder, should i tell her?" and then i thought, "now, if i tell her and she has this information, if i'm ever caught, they'll shoot her too, so i'm not going to tell her." because there were people who left derry, informers, and their wives were able to return because they were seen to as not knowing very much about it. so i decided, "look, selfish as it

. >> can i just gently say that if -- in relation to margaret thatcher, that if she wants to talk about better treatment, she might have a word with the shadow chancellor, who talks about going back in time to assassinate her. that is not appropriate language on her side. can i remind her that labor once more debt, more borrowing and high taxes. we are tried. female employment at record lows. the gender pay gap at a record lower than under the lastlabour government. >> order. sayingve i'm right in that she has had her sixth question. >> margot james. >> does the right honorable gentlemen agree that legislation to establish a tough independent regulator of internet companies empowered to challenge the attic right to anonymity online should be a priority for free >> we want to make the u.k. to be the safest place to go online for our children and members of our society. our white paper set up plans to make companies more responsible. especially for children. it also sets out measures to reinforce fines for those that put them at risk. >> it is a disgrace the prime minister is not here. he

reenact the very dinner but this had economic impact to help elect ronald reagan and before that margaret thatcher she wasn't elected she was appointed by it was with english-language countries i looked it up in france it did get attention in france. [speaking french] did i say that right? they had a little epidemic in france but then they elected mitterrand which was the socialist president of france so the narratives have a patriotic element and of identity. you could define your life as a story of it as a patriotic american. you repeat stories of americans or close countries like australia. so home prices. the other is the great depression. we are just coming out from the great recession named after the great depression is very much on her mind so starting with home prices a huge boom in home prices in the united states and also the uk and other english-speaking countries in the early 2000's so part of this around 2005 reaching the peak in 2006 and then faded away and we are living in the aftermath. what caused that? one thing now i can digitize text and phrases to see how common they were i've

margaret thatcher said "i want my money back," in the 1980s, it was all resolved in the very last minute britain leaving the eu is far too big a subject to be sort of solved at the last moment. i have a little item to show you here... i don't know if the camera can see that clearly. it doees show the impossibility of a solution. i've heard the word 'unworkable' used about boris johnson's latest proposal to the eu, and this is an unworkable mug. it has the name of brexit sort of broken through it, and you can't drink from it. this is not my position. it is just the way we are. it isjust a state we have reached. do you have one with the 'euro zone' written on it? that is a good point, because the euro zone is not in the most glorious place, as we know. that's why i think another referendum in this country to be held on whether you want to remain in the eu or not might go the old way... is this a gift to the programme or is this a gift to iain? the victoria and albert museum in london have found it so interesting as to have included it in their collection of current british art. along with

the brits decided to get you out, they literally commandeered margaret thatcher's private plane, theyou out of northern ireland. correct. but you had to take your wife and your kids and they were given what, an hour or two to pack? kids, leave everything. what impact did you have on yourfamily — might dig that have? i came in and i thought, i have been doing that... did you say mary, i have essentially lived a lie with you for these last nine years or whatever it was and now because of my lying, you and the kids have to get on this plane and you will probably never seen northern ireland again? welcome over the years, i thought, i wonder if i should tell her and then i thought ifi should tell her and then i thought if i tell and she has this information, if i am ever caught, they will shoot her too so i am never going to tell her because they we re never going to tell her because they were seven people who left derry, informers, and their wives were able to return because they were seen as not knowing very much about it. i thought i am not going to tell her. and that is why i didn't te

the biggest part of that, and the honourable lady wouldn't take my intervention on margaret thatcher,f that reduction by far was the move from coal to gas. the closure of the coal mines in this country was the singularly most divisive, bitter industrial dispute this country has ever had. and i say this with no relish, but what happened in the miners' strike, what happened in the ‘90s when the miners marched through central london, we didn't want that to happen, but it was a necessary policy to put through in the national interest. the idea that you canjump on a tube train or spray fake blood on government buildings and cut co2 emissions, it takes real action. a labour mp said ministers should be taking extinction rebellion‘s message more seriously. if they're worried about public support, they should stop suppressing extinction rebellion and the youth climate strike and start listening to them. make citizen assemblies. test the ideas and engage people in a positive way. my final message is stop the complacency, act ambitiously. the green mp said the government should set a more ambiti

is it so much better than an actual civil war we have gone through but we have to learn what margaret thatcher said first human the argument and then you win the vote. so too many times we try to rush through the vote without actually winning the argument. going back to 1974 when my dad first run so that you'll know what happened that was watergate as we talk about impeachment so dad was working very hard and at that time if you can imagine in georgia it was a democratic state the delegation worked very hard but watergate happened and i remember that night there was no fancy boards or digital tv but they were calling on the landline phones from the precinct saying how many votes were cast. my dad would sit there with a legal pad and put down the numbers and add them up and at the end of the night we lost 48.6 percent and he lost. we worked very hard a very big rural district a lot of time spent in the car and little bitty gas stations we stopped everywhere and talk to everybody but he lost so the next morning we got up and went to the factory across from the original chick-fil-a and misha cans

in the end the time was simply ripe for change though margaret thatcher chancellor presidents reagan and maternal and the pope were all working in their own way to bring down the iron curtain. and that's what we managed to do. and what was your role i joined them through. the year before for the 1st time in history a paul had also become pope. john paul the second's words do not fear if you want to change your life acted like a wake up call when the pope visited his homeland 10000000 people turned out to see him. first up the era of communism was coming to an end thanks in part to solidarity. by him too much but today's poland is deeply divided and spring 2019 solidarity celebrated 30 years of the round table another democratic polish agreement with this container in front of its door but there were no congratulations from the national conservative government it was busy helping people like farmer albert blood left. we are now in eastern poland where most people are churchgoers with big families. here and ship you talk a village of 2000 inhabitants everyone votes for the governing co

can i gently say in relation to margaret thatcher that if she about that, you might have a word with the shadow chancellor. she talked about labour's record. can i remind her that because of labor's economic mismanagement, we saw female unemployment rise by over a quarter. on the outside, we are proud. womengher percentage of and records lower than the last labor government. >> order. i've am right in that she has had her six questions. >> there will be more. margot james. >> does the right honorable gentleman agree that legislation to establish a tough, independent regulator of internet companies and powers and challenges the automatic aght to anonymity online priority for the queen's speech. place withthe safest members of our society. and they put them at risk. >> is it a disgrace that the prime minister is not here? since he was elected in july, he has only 10 one prime minister's questions. mr. speaker, right now, the dealing in ar is briggs it fantasy. the government will not seek an extension. they will not obey their legal obligations. speaker, yet again, the prime minister i

margaret thatcher said i want my money back, in the 19805, it was all resolved in the last minute.his brexit notion of britain leaving the eu is far too big a subject to be sort of sold at the la st subject to be sort of sold at the last moment. i have a little item to show you here... i don't know if the camera can see that clearly. it shows the impossibility of a solution. i've heard the word unworkable used about borisjohnson's latest heard the word unworkable used about boris johnson's latest proposal to the eu and this is an unworkable mug. it has the name of brexit sorta broke and through it and you can't drink from it. this is not my position. it isjust the way drink from it. this is not my position. it is just the way we are. it isjust a state we have reached. do you have one with the euro zone written on it? that is a good point because the euro zone is not in the most glorious place, as we know. that is why i think, another referendum in this country to be held on whether you want to not might go the old way. is this a gift to the programme or a gift to ian? the victoria

i also believe what margit - - margaret thatcher said first you have to win the argument then you win the votes. i always said when i was in congress that republican conservatives were very pathetic in our communications first of all the national media is not a conduit to get the message out with the platform or the time to do that. so it was compounded by that but i always felt that we as conservatives have the right message we just didn't say it very well or enough. i remember when i was first in congress eric can tour had a senior position at the time because i was invited to be on fox news i couldn't believe it. i called up eric and said are you all right if i go on fox news? these are you kidding me? you need to go out as much as you can to get out our message and every other network to talk about why you believe what you believe. that was the right answer and good advice and i would argue we need more people who can get in front of those cameras to go to all the networks to talk about what it is we believe to give that perspective. i don't buy into the idea you just have to sit

gave the world adam smith, margaret thatcher, oscar wilde, countless other luminaries bit at this rate, it will be producing anymore. i would've never tried to give mrs. t jazz hands because i know what mrs. thatcher would do that, oscar wilde is another matter. congresswoman katie hill conducted a lurid affair with one of our own staffers. now it looks like she may have paid her thousands in consulting fees to keep her quiet. and when it comes to nocturnal consulting, we turn to our chief after hours freeway consulting investigative reporter, trace gallagher. trace, this one is all yours. >> market, the allegation against democratic congress woman katie hill are piling up. the house ethics committee is investigating whether hale recently had an intimate relationship with her legislative director graeme kelly. katie hill denies the relationship with kelly but fully admits to being involved with her campaign staffer at 20 morgan desjardins. in fact, they were in a three-way relationship known as a throuple which came to light after "red state" published photos. it ended badly when katie

but i'm able to -- your dad was there too. >> but was he boring or only fun with margaret thatcher >>ry nice. your dad -- incredible interviewer. we made a film about him an oscar nominated film. your dad was very sweet and very kind >> but, sorry, i interrupted you. >> okay. the point of the book is as follows. i've had to raise billions of dollars to pay for ideas, to pay for apollo 13 or pay $100 million plus for "how the grinch stole christmas" or "the "da vinci code". so you have to look at somebody, an executive or a series of executives and evangelize your mission or movie why this should exist and why it will be successful only looking through somebody and expressing passionately and articulately a vision can you actually engage somebody's heart and when you do that, just like a movie character in a film, once you engaging someone's heart you can move them and they will actually, you know, if it makes sense, they will pay for these movies, and the same thing happens -- it's a food chain quite frankly. so i found that by meeting people, by looking at them in the eyes, by actual

but yes, i remember listen to go margaret thatcher. you've got the numbers. >> soever, it doesn't look necessarily that good for boris johnson, but it's looking better by the minute. there are key groups of mps that we're looking at today. >> how many votes does he need? >> he needs 320. >> because we've lobbed off the speaker, the deputy speakers, anybody who is -- >> yes, and actually, when we look at the actual numbers, we're looking at 318 because there are four tellers, two of which will vote for the deal and two of which will vote against, they cancel each other out. >> we know the labor party will not vote for this. so where does he get his numbers? how many does he have on his own? >> on his own, i believe he could be at 309. that's a fairley conservative estimate. 19 of whom wrote a letter this month saying they want a deal before the end of the month. it takes into account two labor mps who have come out and said they will vote for this deal. that is in the last 24 hours. and slowly but surely, some of them are coming to bori

as margaret thatcher put it, eventually even the riches governments find out they run out of other people's money. it happened to venezuela where oil revenues were big but over-the-top big government spending plans got even bigger. gordon chang says the same thing is happening there. gordon, it's interesting for the chinese to say and admit that their numbers are going down for it we can argue as to whether they are growing at a 6% clip. the data as it may, they are admitting it. does it drive them to the table? >> that's one factor that makes them more amenable to a deal. it's not 6.0% which they claim for the third quarter. i heard someone talk about negative 2 and that's a person with a security clearance last week. i don't think it's actually that low but i think when you have an economy that big which has flowed from double-digit growth to probably under 2% growth in a very short. meh, it creates a lot of incentives. i do think that that's a factor that's pushing beijing to the table. >> neil: they are not so much a socialist state or was venezuela did with cradle to grave comforts the

i also believe what margaret thatcher said in that she said first you need to win the argument and thenu can go out with the vote. i always felt even before i came to congress even before i ran certainly become more evident once i was there that republicans conservatives we were very pathetic in our communication. first of all, we were getting no help from the mass media the national media was not going to be a conduit to which we could get our message out there and have the platform or time to be able to do that. it was compounded by that. i always felt that we as conservatives had the right message we just didn't say it very well. we did say it enough. i remember when i was first in congress i met with eric cantor who had a senior position at the time. i had been invited to be on fox news i couldn't believe it so i called up eric cantor and i said are you all right if i go on fox news and he said jason are you kidding me? you need to go out there as much as he possibly can to get out our message and go on every other network you can possibly get on and talk about why you believe what

former aid to margaret thatcher saying johnson could be taking a page from the iron lady herself andr u.s. presidents to work the other side and close the deal. what do you make? >> well,, i do think that the prospect of bores johnson looking a lot better today and already you have seen several alicia seven or eight saying they are going to vote with the government in support of borst johnson's deal. johnson needs to basically flip about 19 labor mps over in order to secure the deal. and he is around halfway there already. and this is significant because, of course, in the 2016 referendum, about three to four million labor voters voted for brexit. 61% of labor party constituents actually went for brexit. labor party there is a very significant element of support for brexit. and so i think you could see enough labor mps switching sides here. crossing the political aisle and voting with the government. this is also has to be said a very good deal that boris has negotiated with the eu. it's far, far better than the deal negotiated by theresa may. >> neil: what you said about working wit