they are bringing up margaret thatcher. richey snack interviewed | thatcher. was holding britain back.— was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. _ was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. he _ was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. he has - was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. he has been i sunak interviewed. he has been chancellor and had responsibility for the _ chancellor and had responsibility for the city of london during that time _ for the city of london during that time all— for the city of london during that time. all the while, we are clear of brexit— time. all the while, we are clear of brexit now. — time. all the while, we are clear of brexit now, it is supposed to be done, _ brexit now, it is supposed to be done so — brexit now, it is supposed to be done, so are you telling me all the time _ done, so are you telling me all the time you _ done, so are you telling me all the time you were in the treasury you couldn't— time you were in the treasury you couldn't see — time you were in the treas

saying she is her own person and is not trying to simply be the new margaret thatcher. polish and being made a lot and i think it's both their attempts to court the right wing of the party and show they are the true thatcher like candidates. we and show they are the true thatcher like candidates.— and show they are the true thatcher like candidates. we will do one more sto on like candidates. we will do one more story on this — like candidates. we will do one more story on this leadership _ like candidates. we will do one more story on this leadership race. - like candidates. we will do one more story on this leadership race. the - story on this leadership race. the front page of the times and we will be done talking politics with rivals talk tough on migration, which we've heard about over the weekend. let's focus on the second half of this headline as final tv debates loom. what are you hoping for or expecting in these head—to—head debate? db what are you hoping for or expecting in these head-to-head debate? db bcd ba is the in these head-to-head debate? db bcd bay is

she is going to reveal_ margaret thatcher. she is going to reveal her— margaret thatcher. plans to turbo—charge economic growth. she wants to build a string _ economic growth. she wants to build a string of— economic growth. she wants to build a string of low regulation investment areas where business can flourish _ investment areas where business can flourish and _ investment areas where business can flourish and be quite similar to the enterprise — flourish and be quite similar to the enterprise zones that were created under— enterprise zones that were created under margaret thatcher. she is saying _ under margaret thatcher. she is saying this will not be driven by london — saying this will not be driven by london bureaucrats, it will be driven — london bureaucrats, it will be driven by— london bureaucrats, it will be driven by local... i think this is part— driven by local... i think this is part of— driven by local... i think this is part of the _ driven by local... i think this is part of the levelling up agenda as well, _ part of the levelling up agenda as well, but

- been cosplaying her, doing pictures in tanks like margaret thatcher and j in tanks like margaretishi sunak, an interesting, very smart - things like this. rishi sunak, an interesting, very smart guy, - things like this. rishi sunak, an| interesting, very smart guy, but things like this. rishi sunak, an i interesting, very smart guy, but to some _ interesting, very smart guy, but to some extent — interesting, very smart guy, but to some extent hindered _ interesting, very smart guy, but to some extent hindered by— interesting, very smart guy, but to some extent hindered by the - interesting, very smart guy, but to some extent hindered by the fact i interesting, very smart guy, but tol some extent hindered by the fact of his wifes— some extent hindered by the fact of his wife's extreme _ some extent hindered by the fact of his wife's extreme wealth. - some extent hindered by the fact of his wife's extreme wealth. he - some extent hindered by the fact of his wife's extreme wealth.— some extent hindered by the fact of his wife's extreme wealth. he kept a ureen card his wife's extreme

or talk like margaret thatcher or talk like margaret thatcher, and be seen to be tough _ margaretuld of margaret thatcher. although a lot of what has been suggested by liz truss— a lot of what has been suggested by liz truss was in fact promised by the conservative government since 2019. _ the conservative government since 2019, there's nothing particularly new in_ 2019, there's nothing particularly new in what she is saying. she wants to pass _ new in what she is saying. she wants to pass legislation to ensure essential services are provided, she wants— essential services are provided, she wants to _ essential services are provided, she wants to change the minimum amount of workers _ wants to change the minimum amount of workers needed to ballot for strikes — of workers needed to ballot for strikes. it's alljust shades of the same _ strikes. it's alljust shades of the same thing. but it's going to escalate because this will play very well to— escalate because this will play very well to the base that both she and rishi sunak are trying to play two, they'll— rishi sunak are trying

rishi sunak. a _ want to be margaret thatcher. rishi sunak. a very— want to be margaret thatcher.extent, possibly hindered by the i extent, possibly hindered by the fact of— extent, possibly hindered by the fact of his — extent, possibly hindered by the fact of his wife's _ extent, possibly hindered by the fact of his wife's extreme - extent, possibly hindered by thel fact of his wife's extreme wealth. and he _ fact of his wife's extreme wealth. and he kept— fact of his wife's extreme wealth. and he kept the _ fact of his wife's extreme wealth. and he kept the green— fact of his wife's extreme wealth. and he kept the green card... i fact of his wife's extreme wealth. . and he kept the green card... after he became a politician. crosstalk and with the inflation and cost of living _ and with the inflation and cost of living issues, _ and with the inflation and cost of living issues, that _ and with the inflation and cost of living issues, that is _ and with the inflation and cost of| living issues, that is problematic. penny— living issues, that is problematic. penny mourdant— livin

margaret thatcher put up - taxes when he can afford them and margaret thatcher put up taxes - margaret back in the 19805 — before she started cutting them back in the 1980s because _ before she started cutting them back in the 1980s because she _ before she started cutting them back in the 1980s because she believed i before she started cutting them back in the 1980s because she believed in| in the 1980s because she believed in sound _ in the 1980s because she believed in sound money — in the 19805 because she believed in sound money-— in the 1980s because she believed in sound money-— sound money. jack, can i ask about how they will _ sound money. jack, can i ask about how they will try — sound money. jack, can i ask about how they will try to _ sound money. jack, can i ask about how they will try to navigate - sound money. jack, can i ask about how they will try to navigate boris i how they will try to navigate boris johnson and the issue of how close they were to him and now how they distinguish themselves from him? this will be a fascinating process. it is a really interesting one

to press his claim, rishi sunak turned up in margaret thatcher's home town, grantham, to begin campaigningat what i'm proposing economically is what i would describe as common—sense thatcherism. the number one economic challenge our country faces right now is inflation and we must get a grip of inflation now, and not risk making the problem worse. repeatedly saying his party had to tell the truth, the former chancellor said what his rival liz truss is proposing — cutting tax by borrowing more — was not moral. after pledging earlier to put a sunak government onto a crisis footing from day one, he also outlined plans to tackle nhs backlogs. we will take the best of our covid response and apply those lessons to clearing the massive backlogs in the nhs. but team truss has a different truth. the truth is that we're in a situation now where we're getting no growth, if not negative growth in the economy, and liz's plans, which include a cut to corporation tax, which at the moment is higher than france's — just let that sink in, two years after brexit — is basically about the rounded idea of growi

i want to push back- about this margaret thatcher was the past thing.ing out the l drama of her defenestration. i think that if you look. at what brexit is, brexit is a direct product of — i was a journalist here| in the late 80s and early 90s as well — and brexit was — i europe was — the issue that split the conservative party| apart, and the anti—europeans, and she was their figurehead —| have never forgiven her. in fact, ukip was formed i by conservative politicians who thought that john major not being a good thatcherite. - we still saw this obeisance. i tweeted last week, . "wouldn't it be simpler "to have a seance?" we will get all the - conservative party around, summon the spirit of - margaret thatcher, you can have a nice discussion, but can we actually bel legislating _ for the 21st century? i am not sure they really - are there, and you look at... you're right, they're not, and she still casts a spell, and the conservative party changed with her leadership. it became much more ideological. so, you are absolutely right, but you do, every now a

those candidates seem to be invoking margaret thatcher. who | invoking margaret thatcher.no doubt in my _ would she agree with? well, there's no doubt in my mind _ would she agree with? well, there's no doubt in my mind that _ would she agree with? well, there's no doubt in my mind that she i would she agree with? well, there's no doubt in my mind that she would | no doubt in my mind that she would agree with this trust. i was an adviser to her when she was formulating our policies —— liz truss. but the parallel with the 1981 budget was complete a false, and we have a situation where supply policies and sensible policies that support growth require an increase in borrowing. support growth require an increase in borrowing-— in borrowing. sorry, but margaret thatcherwas— in borrowing. sorry, but margaret thatcher was not _ in borrowing. sorry, but margaret thatcher was not in favour - in borrowing. sorry, but margaret thatcher was not in favour of i in borrowing. sorry, but margaret thatcher was not in favour of lots| thatcher was not in favour of lots of borrowing. those of

was in her pump. fix, bit policy at number ten when margaret thatcher was in her pump.— thatchermp. a bit of a blast from the _ thatcher was in her pump. a bit of a blast from the past _ thatcher was in her pump. a bit of a blast from the past for _ thatcher was in her pump. a bit of a blast from the past for our - thatcher was in her pump. a bit of a blast from the past for our viewers, | blast from the past for our viewers, hearing john redwood's name. not someone often spoken about in today's politics, but still an mp and one who is well respected in parliament. of course, liz truss has spent a long time trying to avoid these parallels between her and margaret thatcher, but they keep coming thick and fast, and they point thatjohn redwood's comments will only draw those comparisons were strongly. there reports she's drawing up a thatcherite plan to give number ten more control over the economy. so that would be by having beefed up numbers of economic advisers in number ten to give her more power to work with her chancellor to challenge treasury groupthink. liz truss has made no

margaret thatcher's birthplace, grunt them-— margaret thatcher's birthplace, grunt them.her's birthplace, crunt them. , ., , , .,, grunt them. yes, absolutely, he has been trying — grunt them. yes, absolutely, he has been trying to _ grunt them. yes, absolutely, he has been trying to steal— grunt them. yes, absolutely, he has been trying to steal the _ grunt them. yes, absolutely, he has been trying to steal the mantle - grunt them. yes, absolutely, he has been trying to steal the mantle of. been trying to steal the mantle of thatcher's — been trying to steal the mantle of thatcher's ever apparent from liz truss _ thatcher's ever apparent from liz truss. what is most interesting about _ truss. what is most interesting about this — truss. what is most interesting about this contest is shaping out, do you _ about this contest is shaping out, do you remember operation red meat, the plan _ do you remember operation red meat, the plan another ten to throw lots ofiuicy_ the plan another ten to throw lots ofjuicy morsels that they thought conservative mps would like? if you thou

claiming to be the heir to margaret thatcher, they are i to margaret thatcher, they are trying to outfiti 'ust don't think that is a pitch that— aren't they? i just don't think that is a pitch that would _ aren't they? i just don't think that is a pitch that would have - aren't they? i just don't think that is a pitch that would have much i is a pitch that would have much truck with — is a pitch that would have much truck with the country as a whole. it's truck with the country as a whole. it's a _ truck with the country as a whole. it's a pitch— truck with the country as a whole. it's a pitch designed for conservative members. yes, we don't live in— conservative members. yes, we don't live in a _ conservative members. yes, we don't live in a presidential system. we don't _ live in a presidential system. we don't elect — live in a presidential system. we don't elect our prime minister directly. — don't elect our prime minister directly, we live in a parliamentary svstem. _ directly, we live in a parliamentary system, and in those systems, it is much _ system, and in those systems, it is

she opposed brexit, rans, also asked not to compare her with margaret thatcher although before that sheything to be like her, it’s like you are trying to get closer or trying to return margaretcher to people, but other people will say she is nothing more than a tribute to the memory of margaret thatcher what will you answer to this is disappointing that all women politicians are compared to margaret thatcher i believe that i am not only the person who will bring the changes we need and fulfill the promise made earlier, but also the person who will win the next parliamentary elections. politician najil farage, claims that the british establishment has already made a bet on the leaf a couple of days after jones announced his resignation to a wealthy sponsor. tory told me that big business decided they want the track to win. why do they think she's the easiest to manipulate to choose to be an ordinary member of the conservative party. with about 200,000 supporters, the influential london newspaper the times spoke out. only mr. sunak proved that he was ready for the decision. actions, given

party and he began by talking about conservative values, he is the era apparent to the likes of margaret thatcher. she will cancel the rise in national insurance he introduced as chancellor before he resigned. he wants it to place —— to pay for some of the changes to the nhs. liz truss wants to borrow money, cut taxes and put money back into pockets. there is a real dividing line between the two about whether to cut taxes will put money in people's pockets or whether it will mean putting up prices and driving inflation up. so that's the dividing line. talking about the nhs, he wants to talk about the nhs, he wants to talk about cutting waiting list by september 2024. about cutting waiting list by september2024. he about cutting waiting list by september 2024. he once waiting list no longer than a year by september 2020 for. that is not to cut national insurance so he underlined his

he is a former aides, a prime minister, margaret thatcher, and is the director of the margaret thatcher center for freedom of the heritage foundation. he joins us now from washington via skype. there now burst on some lives devised another day and not only that, but hitting back with some define firings of his own. would you guess that on wednesday morning for screening. extraordinary. i think, you know, 24 hours here are some of the most, you know, a story scenes we've seen in british politics for many, many decades with the prime minister. literally. i think on the ropes, you know, clinging on, you know, by his 5 finger tips at the moment, so we'll have to see what, what actually unfolds of the course of the next day. we'll say for the private, it certainly is defiant, insisting that he will remain as as p. m. but, you know, the, the wave of resignation we've seen from members of the cabinet. and we'll say from about a quarter, i think of the it is a junior ministers as well. this puts the price under tremendous a prussia. and i have to say that what is unfolding right now with regard

the deposition of margaret thatcher and totally different circumstances. her integrity wasn't a question in her case, but she was deposed by her colleagues and not just the, the party, but the country as a whole was deeply divided about that. it did quite a lot. it had to happen, i was in the cabinet that helped deliver that at that time. so i didn't regret what we did. but i also conscious of the fact you create a trauma which can last and concrete other problems. by if there are still a large numbers of people who believe that an unfair thing has happened, so you can't rush such, it can only happen gradually and is, and, but do remember compare johnson with trump. trump, last a national election, refused to go know, organized, or was involved in a riot, the capital johnson, with all his terrible faults which i'm not personally tending to try and conceal. at the end of the day, he went quietly, there were no riots. there was no people marching out of goblins to protect them. he simply overnight said ok. i'm issuing a statement saying i'm stepping down. yo

the last, well, the last time that happened was to resume the time before that was margaret thatcher, said the conservative party does have a tradition. unlike the labor part to other parties in britain, if it comes to a judgement that prime minister has become a permanent liability rather than an asset. it can get rid of that leader very loosely as it did on this occasion. well, you say very loosely, i would say they took that time over this. perhaps the most damning comment came last november from lord evans, chairman of the committee on standards in public life about johnson's attempt to change the disciplinary procedure for m. p. 's. while one of these was under investigation, evan evans called it a very damaging moment for parliament and for public standards. and he gave this unprecedented warning. he said there was a danger that britain could slip into being a corrupt country. again, the conservative party looked away seriously. the blind eye has been staggering. you your title to put it in those terms, but you're using nice color, full theatrical language to master the fact tha

and the government, whoever's the goodnight was in margaret thatcher. government for the full period of her time. and some of the time i disagree strongly in what she was day. if you feel strongly on a particular matter for which you have the departmental responsibility, then you resign. but all the time when the cabinet reaches a decision, that decision will be presented as a unanimous decision of the cabinet. because those who were in a minority willing to go along with it. so you're telling me that that's what happens in any democratic country at any time. and it couldn't happen, otherwise the government's would be collapsing every 6 months. but you're telling me now that there's no need for a clean outside, never be old official. is there any i mean out of the party if i'm from zack, a light to restore public? well, you're using nice neutral phrases like johnson's acolytes. there are some members of his team who are not my flavor of the month as it were, who i hope, who services i hope will not be required by the new prime minister. and i'm not going to name names in this particu

you work reporting from london when margaret thatcher was prime minister.eve rightly says, the circumstances are different but the debate is very much, it seems, over not just taxation and the fact that we have got the largest tax burden since the early 1950s under rishi sunak�*s chancellorship, so that is an obvious grand builders trust to attack him on but she also seems to be attacking logical is the consensus of economic policy which has lasted for 20 years. that is arguably quite a radical position to adopt. yes. radical position to adopt. yes, because britain _ radical position to adopt. yes, because britain had _ radical position to adopt. yes, because britain had moved - because britain had moved somewhat towards the centre in terms of economic policy, and therefore that is something that she is trying to yank out, it would appear, or at least that might be her attempt. whether that is the sensible thing to do, i don't know. for the simple reason that people seem to think that rishi sunak�*s approach which is of trying to reduce the state debt befor

margaret thatcher was brought down by her cabinet. it may turn out to be the case that is the achilles' heel the boris johnson experiences. this is his weak point, that his cabinet will no longer tolerate him being prime minister and will step in and intervene and effectively remove him. the question is, some of those resigning are going to be leaving leadership challenges. rishi sunak talked about this could be his last ministerial post. he also faced his own challenges as a result of his rich spouse and the scandal that surrounded that. maybe he is going to step away from government. we will see what happens. kriti: guy johnson, that leadership potential is what will keep a close eye on. thank you. we step back into the volatility. that coverage all coming up next. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ real luxury, real thrill. feel the rush of performance at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. kriti: this is "bloomberg markets." i am greedy group to with jon erlichman -- i am kriti gupta with jon erlichman. vince cignarella brexit do

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once they pass you need to talk about margaret thatcher. suppose margaret thatcher stayed home to watch her get not that there's anything wrong with that. it's a very noble profession think of the difference in england, in the world. she partnered with ronald reagan. they did incredible things. and, of course, claire lewis booth. she was the age of my great-grandmother, probably your great, great grandmother because you're younger, unbelievable the things she did back in when women were not at the party. we have big picture here of our office. it's a 1944 republican national convention. she's like this. she's giving the keynote speech. she lows into roseau, president was up and said you lied us into war. its military family. she was so ahead of her times, a congresswoman when there were like ten. she was editor of "vanity fair." she was basically homeschooled. her father was an itinerant musician. he left the family before she was grown so the move from town to town. she had four years of formal schooling and what an incredible career, a wr

and then a failure, if you remember the story of churchill sheet, the tracks are cosplayed by margaret thatchert yet reached her. although he did photo shoots in a hat near the kremlin. most likely true. well, if you believe about the past, there will be hair, then, in general, what difference does it make to us? no, not anymore. yes, well , in principle, in fact, we don’t care an important other does not play a role. boris johnson did not resist, how did his ambitions in the french parliament stand for them? biden's rating, how hard has it become in estonia now because it turns out that russophobia is something? see, darling, darling, and eventually when you get into it. well, let's say more precisely international politics, then your people are not going to buy into all these uh, decoys and tricks boomerang is back johnson is proud that he led the west in opposition to warm putin on ukraine, but only it turned out that not in his party, not in a wide circle. nobody needed it. this is not what is expected from the prime minister, not what price the british are willing to pay for it. so, it's h

she also asked not to compare her with margaret thatcher.did everything to be like her. it's like you're trying to get close or you're trying to get people back to margaret thatcher but other people will say she's nothing more than a margaret thatcher tribute what do you say to that it's disappointing that all women in politics are being compared to margaret thatcher i believe that i am not only the person who will bring the changes we need and fulfill the promise made earlier, but also the person who will win the next parliamentary elections. the politician started fodder alleging that the british establishment had already made a bet on the leaf a couple of days after jones announced his resignation to a wealthy sponsor. tory told me that big business had decided. they want the runs to win, why do they think it's easiest to manipulate the choice to be the rank and file member of the conservative party. them about 200,000 in support of the bags and the influential london newspaper the times spoke out, only mr sunak proved that he was ready f

the cult personality around margaret thatcher, it was pro ragan people who wore shipped margaret thatchert's the president. i want to show you scandals. boris had scandals but they were minor compared to trump. look we're going to put up his bill of particulars. everything from what's happening in georgia, disrupt the 2020 election, lawsuits from the naacp and the ku klux klan act. mary trump suing him for basically stealing her inheritance. e. jean carroll and unlike the tory party in brittain, trump's party refuses to ditch him. there is no embarrassment. why do you suppose that? >> yeah. i think that's what keir just really excellently pointed out some of the stark differences between the approach even though near the end there there was some evidence that boris was probably looking for a way to sort of, as keir put it, stretch the british constitution. you're right. the queen still sits atop of all of that. that's not our system. what you see with the british system, that even with the most revered and popular of prime ministers, winston churchill, for example, at some point folks get

they have no loyalty, even to legends like margaret thatcher. i guess if there is any surprise here it is that boris johnson lasted as long as he did. >> yeah. that is a very good point. and i don't think it is because the conservative party suddenly realized that boris johnson is anthical black hole that they turned on him. they turned on him because the electorate have been turning on him. his approval ratings are effecting the conservative party's ability to get re-elected and that is why this rather bizarre trivial incident with a serial groper, i guy called chris pincher, a name that even charles dickens would have blanched at giving one of his characters, this is one the final straw that broke the camels back. there is a wide range of potential successes. no real ideology splits in the conservative party. brexit is consensus. so this is really the first time we've seen a prime minister ejected not for reasons of politics or principle as had you with margaret thatcher and with theresa may three years ago, at the hand of boris johnson, remem

said, it sort of proves that they— and asjenny said, it sort of proves that they have their margaret thatcheroment, promising to crack— government at the moment, promising to crack on— government at the moment, promising to crack on strikes is quite helpful _ to crack on strikes is quite helpful i_ to crack on strikes is quite helpful. i also think that the point we are _ helpful. i also think that the point we are facing inflation, private—sector workers in low— paid 'obs private—sector workers in low— paid jobs having — private—sector workers in low— paid jobs having to pay the salaries through— jobs having to pay the salaries through their taxes public sector workers — through their taxes public sector workers doesn't seem fair. sol think— workers doesn't seem fair. sol think the — workers doesn't seem fair. sol think the government can stand on quite _ think the government can stand on quite firm — think the government can stand on quite firm ground in resisting calls for an— quite firm ground in resisting calls for an inflation busting pay raise. but it— for an inflation busting pay rais

in tanks - like margaret thatcher and things like this., - very smart guy, but to some extent hindered by the fact - of his wife's extreme wealth. he kept a green card that allowed him to work in america after he had become a politician and a cabinet minister. what theresa may used to call a citizen of the world, a citizen of nowhere. with the inflation and cost of living issues, that is problematic. penny mordaunt is a blank canvas for many people. l people can project- onto her what they want. she was a brexiteer, but she is also very socially liberal. _ it is a really interesting mixture, and she has a sort of navy- background which ticks boxes in the conservative party. - she is an interesting mixture of policies and background. i i was trying to do a broadcast on wednesday evening and there was a brass band playing, not just various military themes and the national anthem, even a selection from mary poppins, which was rather intriguing. we were getting a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down, which i wondered how that would t

but it is interesting what he says, he is saying he likens himself to margaret thatcher's childhood,he has been tarnished by the non—dom scandal, tarnished by the sense he is a billionaire and is completely out of touch. he is very much wanting to establish that he has humble roots, too. in the campaign video he talks about his family coming over and settling here and we saw the pharmacy. he likens himself to margaret thatcher's working above, living above the grocery shop and him working in his mother's pharmacy. it is important, as he is taking on liz truss, very much modelling herself on the iron lady in many ways, too. he is trying to establish himself against the critics who say he is not a true conservative because not promising tax cuts immediately. he is saying i will implement tax cuts, but when it is fiscally responsible. he is trying to take on the critics. isn't it amazing how quickly the wheel can turn and people can be rehabilitated. he is now the front runner by some distance and a few months ago was seen as all washed up. months ago was seen as all washed u, . ., mont

pictures in tanks like margaret thatcher and things like this. by the fact of his wife's i extreme wealth. and he worked for goldman sachs _ he kept a green card that allowed him to work in america after he had become a politician and a cabinet minister. what theresa may used to call perhaps a citizen of the world, a citizen of nowhere. a citizen of nowhere! with the inflation and cost of living issues, i that is problematic. and penny mordaunt is this sort of blank canvas - for many people. and that is a strength. people can project- onto her what they want. she was a brexiteer - but she is also very socially liberal. and making people nervous, stephanie? it is a really interesting - mixture, and she has a sort of navy background which ticks boxes in the conservative - party. so, she is an interesting mixture of pot pourri - policies and background. i was standing next to her party group on wednesday evening trying to do a broadcast. there was a brass band playing, notjust various military themes and the national anthem, even a selection from ma

while alley i spoke to now god, and he's a former aide to prime minister margaret thatcher. and also the director of the margaret thatcher center, a freedom of the heritage foundation. he says nothing good will come from the dispute within the conservative party. what is unfolding right now with regard to persons conservatives, if it's rather destructive because this is a government with the 80 feet plus majority that have no real reason, i think, to be going down this particular path. and i think, you know, the ultimate outcome. i think for the conservatives is probably going to be quite negative and generally nothing good come from, you know, these kinds of cool within, within the coffee. and i think that, you know, bar johnson was elected with a huge democratic mandate. it should be up to the british people to decide, i think, in the future, rather than internal machinations within the conservative. i think what really matters. you know, the next tail is, you know, potentially the next wave resignation that he stays in the cabin could be seen. what happens with the 1922 c

but margaret thatcher is also, as you suggested there, an icon phil is trust, even i believe, played the role of that in high school play in primary school. so as a member of the conservative party with self, how would you differentiate their policies? well, it feels like the point to the moment is quite fashionable now to talk about tax cuts and the economy. see, because one thing you can do quite quickly when you have 2 years or less towards the next general election. but i think the different, the risk to nike is trying to be a bit more realistic than people by saying, if you want back to more investment in the country that has been promised by the 2019 as part of the so called leveling up agenda. improving conditions in the north midland, if you want to public services, these have to be paid or by something you consciously based on borrowing. so i'm with the state to inflation u. k times cuts at some point, but not right now. we see it very different to what miss 1st and most of the other candidates have not been don't was saying in terms of promising the tax cuts straight to way

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for example, margaret thatcher the very first state visit president reagan has with margaret thatcher and the last visit was with margaret thatcher kind of bookending because of their their close relationship. they did a lot cheap to begin to pick the cause issue of being involved with when she left office continuing the her anti drug efforts working with ken with you and your organizations and others. so a lot of thought was given to that president what he would do when he left office speaking going out, you know what he called his unfinished work campaigning for for political like candidates republicans. he supported traveling around speaking out on the issues that were important to him and then traveling and we had we found when he left. you know, you don't really know when a present leaves office you look at the polls, but you don't really know how the world feels about you and several trips of president. did lisa and joanne and others organized word other countries, and it was amazing just to see the the pouring out of emotion towards him and the gratitude that countries had for

phyllis schlaffy talk about margaret thatcher and conservatives are getting the treatment in women's magazines. are there any you feel like parents should have in their head as he sure your daughter knows about her. >> looking at leaders today you just sort of watch facts you're going to see some of the most outstanding women. i was looking around yesterday and senator blackburn from tennessee was talking about this or president by has given us in afghanistan. very strong, very very moving. some of our, you know, some of our wonderful conservative speakers they need to talk about people like margaret thatcher. what if margaret that you had stayed home? not thatthere's anything wrong with that , but think of the difference in england and the world. she parted with ronald reagan. they did incredible things and of course what an amazing woman she was. she was the age of my great-grandmother. probably your great-grandmother because she was younger. unbelievable the things she did back then when women were not at the podium . we have a big picture in our audience. it's a 1944 republican n