>> yes, this is the incident location where marge, the victim, in the summer of 2012 was murdered by her husband, and then he committed suicide inside the home. marge putnam was shot by her husband of 38 years after she decided to leave him. >> i think she probably thought she had reached the point where she was strong enough to stand up to him. years, earlier years, i think she did whatever he wanted her to do. >> marge's family says the controlling behavior had gone on for decades behind closed doors >> you get in this small community where you have this one person that is doing everything right and even though at home he's either physically or mentally or emotionally abusing his wife, nobody is going to look at that. >> there's a tendency too to not mind anybody else's business. you know, "that's not my business. if that's what they want to do over there, well, as long as it doesn't affect me, that's ok." >> we begin to go out into the community, and we begin talking about domestic violence and that began to change the mindset. folks begin to open their hearts. and in about nine m

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marge kohlberg, 50, and a mother of two was working her first night alone as manager.ut in the dining room sat 19-year-old former employee, nathan dunlap. >> nathan dunlap worked there for a time but is ultimately let go. he had an attitude problem and is a bit of a discipline issue for the management. so on the particular night in question, nathan dunlap goes into that chuck e. cheese and he orders dinner. dunlap plays video games. plays a shooter video game, hogan's alley. chuck e. cheese closes. dunlap goes into the bathroom. waits in the bathroom. >> he goes to the mirror. he gets himself psyched up. looks at himself and tells himself he can do this. and he pulls out his gun and he walks outside and he starts to shoot people in the head. >> bobby stephens was walking inside after a smoking break. >> as i went back in to work is when i started hearing the gunshots. i thought somebody dropped something. >> sylvia crowell who had been cleaning the salad bar was the first person shot. she never saw dunlap coming. ben grant, vacuuming, was killed next. >> heard the next

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.) >> my name is marge go goldstein i've taught ethnic studies this year and we also started about 7 years ago without the district and i'm so glad this district is not only showing up if arrests but this is about everyone's history deserves to be learned it's a crime and it's been a tupsz of the white supremacy if in our schools so all of us this is a historic moment and i'm going to introduce mike i'm sorry mike is someone i went to high school with mike gregory (clapping) >> hi, i'm mike and one thing i'd like to show you a poster our history matters it matters to me this is who we are without ethnic studies i learned so much in this class through the year from my previous history we learned about slavery but never learned who we are this ethnic studies taught me, i'm proud to say i have this class this is like making this one of our main class not an elective not only do we get more engaged we learn about ourselves personally and this fits with our it is making me for self-confident and having this from fifth to 12 grade it would tells you how we are equal we shouldn't just each

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to my campaign team him up i want to thank of course i don't know if they're still here but marge on the lower my fundraiser and her team. she had a baby during my first election. i couldn't even tell. she was just as funny to me around the clock just one of the hardest workers i've ever met. along with her team. of course, maggie and i met my campaign managers. they're both you and michael feinstein kevin hennigan patricia martin megan pratt think you so much. either motor watching on tv. of course, we have in our present the auto mall whose old former district supervisor. they do so much. i have some really wonderful ladies to look up to who served in this capacity. again i want to semi-things to all the department heads i know you're back at work but thank you very much. and of course all of my friends my childhood friends my girlfriends who were able to make it out here today who support me throughout my life and you really mean so much to you me. sometimes i make fun of me and my gosh you're spending time or hanging out and i think of course. you are what makes me normal and mak

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marge: the tasty side of fiber.you a live look at the site of that second siege yesterday, that kosher market there in the outskirts of paris. it was a brutal scene, four hostages died there and of course, the terrorist was killed as well during that siege. and also this morning, france's interior minister is calls for extreme vigilance following the deadly attacks this week. the interior minister held a security meeting this morning, saying the french government is deploying hundreds of troops in addition to thousands of police and other security forces. >>> joining me once again now from paris, host of "msnbc's ronan farrow daily," ronan farrow. let's talk about the rally that's planned right there at the place de la republique tomorrow? >> reporter: it's all going down tomorrow, and there are a lot of nerves leading up to this. first, a big high-level ministerial meeting today. and what we've concluded is that the threat is actually higher now than before this attack. they're worried about copy cats, worried abou