margie let me ask you.e a fair point when it comes to china and russia reset. those have not worked out terribly well. whether you fault the president or say that's the nature of foreign policies, it's slow and lumbering, how do you address what can be perceived by some as a lack of consistency in our relationship with china? >> i know a few things. i know first of all people think that the president has been handling foreign affairs really well. i know that they feel that secretary clinton is enormously popular and doing a great job traveling around the world and i know what romney does has not sent a clear vision by saying whatever obama is for i'm against. did doesn't matter where in the world he is, what country he's talking about, syria, or even in at the olympics. >> that's not true. >> it's true. you quoteed borris quoted obama in his visit to russia, not actually quoting but putting words in his mouth which is different from when i was talking about mitt romney or president bush using their actual w

that is what was supposed to happen. >> let me go to you, margie.other jones' video was just released, g released, governor romney talks about the country dividing the country. >> i the thing i find most disappointing in this president is his attack of one america against another america. going after those who have been successful. >> really, he's dividing america? here's a man that just talked about his job, not to worry about half the country, 47%, and they're irresponsible when we just broke down on why they're not paying federal taxes. they're contributing other ways. yet he claims the president is dividing and pitting americans against each other? >> it's amazing the combination of wrong, insulting and bad politics, bad strategy and the lack of humanity in everything that we see out of these romney tapes. it's all there. and he frequently does this a couple times, accuses the president of really something that he is actually part of his campaign. when you have the right and see it in the romney tapes, you see it a lot in the right, this worry,

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bush and margie omero, a democratic pollster. okay, margie, you are sitting here in the hot seat. tell me from your point of view how mitt romney did. just with connecting with those swing voters. those independent voters last night. not as a partisan but just looking at that time how a swing voter might see him after that speech. >> i think he did a good job. his speech, he got through it. he didn't make a mistake. he had some touching moments in it i think people will have a positive reaction. it's important to remember he is the net unfavorable since january. i mean, that's months and months of being more unfavorable than favor views toward him. that's going to take more than a speech to turn around. i mean, a lot of those voters are going to be deciding late and they are going to want to hear more policy as you noted which they didn't really get that much last night. >> mark, as far as convention speeches go, it really falls in line with most of the ones that we remember previously, right? reagan in 84 and 80. i don't believe got into a lot of policy prescholarshippives it was

this is margie. she was last seen in antioch where her family lives last tuesday. her sister says she likes to wear overalls, a yes yellow shirt, what you see there. her due date is just 11 days away. she was released from a martinez hospital last week. markgy has gone missing before. her family says she likes to hang out at the tenderloin area and they say she likes to hang out at glide memorial. if you have any information that could help her family locate her, call police. lorraine blanco, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 7:05. the democratic national convention officially kicks off today. coming up at 7:15, we'll have a live report. >>> meanwhile, republican presidential nominee, mitt romney taking some time off to prepare for debates this month with president obama. he will take part in mock doe baits. the first debate scheduled for october 3rd in denver of the and there will be a total of three debate -- in denver, and there will be a total of three debates. >>> drivers use their personal cars and would-be passengers await for rides through apps. the company doing th

we talked with margie's family. her family is very worried. she's 31. was last seen in antioch where her family lives last tuesday. her sister says she likes to wear overalls and she has a mental capacity of a 12-year- old. she's pregnant and her due date is just 11 days away. she's gone missing before. her family says she likes to hang out in the area and if you have any information that could help her home locate her -- locate her, call police. >>> two individuals were on jet skis yesterday morning each with a child behind them. the mother's jet ski went in front of the father's jet ski and there were injuries to the children. they are expected to survive. >>> coming up at 6:45, why the families of the two men shot automatic are disputing what happened -- at are disputing what happened before they were shot at. >>> well, "no easy day" is coming out today. it's now the best book on the best-seller list. the man that wrote the book, mark owen, the man who wrote the book, there's -- there could be possible danger from overseas. >> oh, they will not be ha

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. >> now, margie, when you look at the fact that the establishment in the republican party, they don't be putting their lnleies, either.s for these the national republican congressional committee has no airtime reserved for three of its most vulnerable incumbents, a a sign that joan walsh and rotlar beyond saving. all members of the tea party. guess the ideas aren't working for their constituents. huh, mae? >> you see republins going back to missouri to help todd akin regardless of how mainstream out of it he is and joe walsh makes news with his remarks is going to a left hu oo dry. frankly, both parties ultimately look -- their job to get more candidates elected. i think it's important, too, to look at the broader context of what this means for the presidential race, that this race, according to pew, is going to hinge on the size of government and while broadly speaking people do want smaller govementwhenskedn a n large ecs,thve was t saying, people are on the side of democrats and that's why you don't hear mitt romney and paul ryan offering a lot of specifics and that's why you have

we get to our guests doug cody, wells fargo funds management margie patell, and rebecca patterson and our own rick s santelli. rebecca, you're looking at more than equities, in particular currencies. what's the latest out of europe and where you would be positioned? >> we do have some exposure to europe in our portfolios right now in the equity market but it's selective. it's companies that might be domicile in europe but where a lot of revenue is coming from outside of europe. we took advantage of the euro rally in the last week or so to hedge some of that currency risk back to benchmark. we have the european stock risk. we don't want to double down and have the currency risk as well. i think the rest of this year is going to be -- is going to be a tough ride. we have earnings, that's a risk. the election is a two-way risk. europe seems to be a perennial risk these days. we basically want to stay put and just kind of watch how things play out. >> all right. that's an interesting take. doug, what about that. they're sort of throwing the baby out with the bath water in europe even thou

take a look at margie cabrera, last seen in antioch, her sister tells us she likes to wear overhauls and a yellow shirt and has the mental capacity of a 12-year-old. she is pregnant and her due date is just a few weeks away. >> we have been worried because she is about to -- you know, she is due right now, on the 15th, and the moment when she was discharged from martinez, and the psychiatric, you know, a couple of hours after she disappeared like three hours after. >> back out here live in the tenderloin area margie has gone missing before and her family says she likes to hang out in the tenderloin area and found her before at the shelter. if you have any information that could help her locate her call police. live in san francisco, lorraine blanco, ktvu channel 2 news. >> 5:05. well, the dnc in north carolina officially kicks off today. coming up for you at 5:15, we will bring you a live report from charlotte with the two big speeches on the schedule today and why the keynote speaker will make history. >>> republican presidential nominee mitt romney is taking time off the campaign t

my panel today, molly ball, margie omero, and susan del percio.th categories? >> for the best week, i gave it to bill clinton. with the global clinton initiative, you had both mitt romney and president obama handing him praises. i don't think we've seen a republican and democrat agreeing on much besides that this week. and for the worst week, it's u.n. ambassador to the united nations, susan ryce. he was either not included in some of these briefings, which would be troublesome, or just thrown under the bus when she went out on the sunday shows, explaining that this was not a planned attack, and we now know it was a terrorist attack in libya. >> do you think anything's going to happen with that, with susan rice? do you think she could potentially lose her job or no? >> i don't think she'll lose her job, but i don't think we'll be seeing her much in the upcoming months. >> molly, best and worst? >> i'll give best week to todd akin, the republican senate candidate out in missouri. the deadline passed this week for him to withdraw from the race. he w

margie and her daughter traveled from pittsburgh to stop at the zoo. >> everyone is sad about it. we were looking forward to coming back in the year or so to see how it grew. >> it was mei xiang's distress calls that alerted zookeeper's that something was wrong with the newborn. she has been showing signs of mourning. >> she has been seen cradling an object. we think it was her natural instinct. >> i wondered if they felt sorrow. >> an official cause of death will not be known for about a week. mei xiang is slowly returning to normal today, eating benbamboo. zoo officials did not discuss trying again in the future. >> thanks so much. six people in montgomery county taken to the hospital after a three-vehicle accident involving a school bus this morning. it happened on maryland avenue and great falls road around 8:30. four children from the bus were hospitalized and one with serious but non-life threatening injuries. two adults from the other car had minor injuries. counselors are in gaithersburg today helping students deal with an accident involving a classmate. 15-year-old jenaya

. >> reporter: his parents craig and margie couldn't imagine life without him. but 25 years ago when they found their son would be born with down syndrome things were not so easy. >> there were possibilities of what could happen. and it was more of being afraid of the unknown. >> reporter: but they learned so much and now they want to help others in their shoes.since scott was born they participated in the bwi run and walk event. >> it made it not so scarry. >> reporter: 45 mile run or 2 mile family walk that runs money for down syndrome support groups and kennedy krueger. both made a positive impact on scottie and his family. >> it warms our heart to be around other parents with children with down syndrome. other parents are able to tell us, you know, clue us in on various therapies and if you have someone who is having the same life experience, it is a wonderful feeling. >> reporter: and a great experience for kids even those without special needs. >> and as they approach adulthood, i would hope that it opens their mind and broadens their experience and how th

margie's breaking news pakistani police fired tear gas on protesters trying to storm the american embassy in islamabad all in response to the u.s. made film that marks and slop eight officers have reportedly been injured in the clash it's. meanwhile aggressive anti french slogans growing louder across the muslim world as a cartoon of the prophet mohammad n a paris based magazine sparks fresh protests france is closing its diplomatic missions in twenty countries as a precaution. or of some leaked footage of prison guards in georgia viciously abusing inmates on the show's public fury president saakashvili is under pressure to punish those responsible he's replaced prison staff with police officers the demonstrators say that's not enough. and hundreds of shia activists demonstrate in bahrain renewing calls for equal rights from a sunni monarchy that's as rulers vowed to tackle violence and improve how they treat political protesters. it's time now for the latest sport with kate. hello welcome to the latest quarter had a third night of european football action is what's coming up. not favorit

relatives have been looking for 31 year old margie cabrera since august 28.she has the mental capacity of a 12 year old and is almost nine months pregnant. her sister called ktvu news this morning to say police found her safe in san francisco's mission district and the family is on the way to get her. there are no details on exactly what happened. >>> cooler weather is settling into the bay area as we progress through your tuesday. temperatures right now anywhere from three to six to 10 degrees cooler than 24 hours ago giving you a live look at the blue skies over the oakland estuary. we do have fog hugging the coastline, and that will remain for most of the day. from ocean beach down into santa cruz, mostly gray skies and the winds still generally from the north and light, so not seeing really the onshore breeze pick up, haven't so far this morning and now into the afternoon, but eventually that is going to increase the marine layer has already deepened a bit. many of us woke up with clouds this morning in which case we were sunny just yesterday. 65 in napa,

explosions four people have been killed in the suicide attacks carried out by the rebel free syrian army margie's policia is in the region. two massive explosions rocked to the syrian capital of damascus on the waynes day about what accounts they were targeting the military command center of the damascus regime now the moment of the blast was caught on c.c.t.v. cameras if you look at it as footage that was released by the government you can see a white van driving past the military headquarters before it exploded according to syrian state television there world cost suicide bombers that detonated these explosions there also reporting that four military guards died and an additional fourteen people were injured among them military personnel as well as civilians now the blasts occurred just ten minutes apart from each other with the first one happening at just before seven o'clock local time on wednesday morning they also happened near a landmark square in damascus the result was that they shattered the glass of windows of nearby buildings and several residents kilometers away reported hearing the

margie. watching hard to do with me to bomb with say here's a recap of the headlines syria able to declare civilian airport saw their latest target and warn that international law is or shouldn't straight anywhere near the country's two largest cities. turkey's push for a no fly zone over syria says activists rallying as far as germany both for and against assad's regime. action does speak louder than words of israel as a country launches a massive war propaganda campaign along with the emergency drills. plus of the sponsor getting attention for all the wrong reasons at the london paralympics anger among disability activists has a firm which they say humiliates them is a key backer of the games. a fresh look at the world of finance now cause a report coming up next. max kaiser this is the cause the report you know poland must be coming along economically because of course they are attracting wall street banks and just outright scams. max keiser yes this is the first headline thousands caught

they want to margie good to have you with us this morning every fourth person under the age of twenty five in britain is currently out of work and despite government efforts many young people say there are no opportunities available for them are she's there for reports. seen nothing to do and nowhere to go. name money and no prospects but this is not a film plot this is the reality for millions of young people all across a person who is constantly in the mouth roles which is a film production company that's working and training young people in media and communications this is a really good way for a lot of people who are looking for jobs to come develop those communications skills unfortunately across london in very much depends on which party live in a so whether these types of services are available to young people because of this you've got this opportunity to that's the difference is that they have this thing just give. people of anything it is a big issue a big issue. then i think that's when young people go off sometimes they can go off the roads because they have nothing to do

we'll have a leading portfolio manager, wells fargo's margie patel will weigh in. see how the dollar is moving against its foreign currencies as we head out to break. with all the opinions about stocks out there, how do you know which ones to follow? the equity summary score consolidates the ratings of up to 10 independent research providers into a single score that's weighted based on how accurate they've been in the past. i'm howard spielberg of fidelity investments. the equity summary score is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. get 200 free trades today and explore your next investing idea. >> at 20 minutes past the hour i'm arthel neville with your fox news minute. five policemen are dead in syria following two bomb attacks in the country's capital. officers were killed by the outside a mosque in a northern neighborhood of damascus. >>> yosemite national park doubled the amount of people who may have been exposed to the potentially deadly rodent-borne hantavirus. they say roughly 22,000 visitors may have been exposed as they are

this is a photo of 39-year-old margie cabr era. she was last seen in antioch six days ago. her family says she is pregnant and her due date is september 19th. her family says she has the mental capacity of a 10-year- old. >>> three members of a family from san jose was injured. each parent was in a water craft with a parent seated behind them. the mother crossed right in front of the father's path and was broadsided. the parents are identified as sufian and subian kasini. >>> authorities spent hours searches for a suspect involved in a robbery at a pot club. police say three suspects fled in a white van and that officers gave chase. police stopped the van near kenmar court and arrested two 17-year-olds however the third suspect was able to get away. police spent the day going door to door but finally gave up their search around 4:30 this afternoon. >>> all those songs that you bought on i tunes and paid for you may not actually own that music. how bruce willis opened up a new debate about digital music right. >>> plus a labor day rally about a different kind of labor. why t

without being promed a man haaiateaen tho oncoider vong for mitt romney and even some republicans in the margi have had similar reactions. looking at what the romney campaign has done the last few days and that ad they put out yesterday or the day before in which romney says, y know, the president is a good guy that cares about the poor and middle class, just like i do, i just have better policies t. shows you that they have the exact same research. you know, you don't with a month out or a little more than a month out drastically change your strategynd yr oa annds pising the other guy unless you see tremendously negative disappointing data. and so it's just -- you know, the video speaks for itself. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. e video does speak for self. david corn,iclle cottle, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> congratulations, again, mr. corn, on the tape. >>> coming up, on the trail, the president keeps hammering away. >>> plus -- >>ou always hearot a patriotism. well, you know what? it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the b

this is a photo of 39-year-old margie cabr era. she was last seen in antioch six days ago. her family says she is pregnant and her due date is september 19th. her family says she has the mental capacity of a 10-year- old. >>> three members of a family from san jose was injured. each parent was in a water craft with a parent seated behind them. the mother crossed right in front of the father's path and was broadsided. the parents are identified as sufian and subian kasini. >>> authorities spent hours searches for a suspect involved in a robbery at a pot club. police say three suspects fled in a white van and that officers gave chase. police stopped the van near kenmar court and arrested two 17-year-olds however the third suspect was able to get away. police spent the day going door to door but finally gave up their search around 4:30 this afternoon. >>> all those songs that you bought on i tunes and paid for you may not actually own that music. how bruce willis opened up a new debate about digital music right. >>> plus a labor day rally about a different kind of labor. why t

. >> would you look at margie.zing. >> yes, she sure does. >> i wonder how she stays so fit. what is her secret? >> well she told me that food stamp benefits help her eat right and she stays active too. >> oh, i didn't know they hope people our age. >> food stamps help lots of people. people you know. >> wait, you use it too? >> yes i do. [laughter] melissa: what? that is the craziest thing i ever heard. the government's campaign is working so well, that one in every seven people are on the public dole. could you believe that ad? but should the government be trying so hard to get people on food stamps rather than off food stamps. let's bring in democratic strategist, mary anne mash and former assistance to president george w. bush brad blakeman. i will let you go first. i'm still recovering from the radio ad. what is that all about? why are we encouraging more people to go-go on food stamps? >> in tough times, people need assistance. sad to hear that many people use it. like buying home insurance. buy home insuranc

. >> margie, financials, the new leadership group once again, real allocation going on here. are you a buyer? >> no, i have minimal exposure in financials because i don't really see where the growth can come from versus other sectors that really have the possibility of growing much faster than the economy. and i think they have a lot of regulation that's really tamping down their potential to expand their businesses. so, i have marginal holdings in financials. >> and we would agree -- we would agree with that as well. we're underweight the financials. lots of regulatory overhangs and hurdles. they remain in a relative strength, technical downtrend. we're still cautious on financials, despite the recent run over the last couple weeks. >> we'll see about that. that's what makes the market. appreciate it. see you soon. thank you. don't go away. we have a lot more in store for on you this big monday edition of "closing bell," including the interview you've been waiting for. >>> coming up, mario and maria. italy's prime minister could hold the key to bringing the eurozone back fro

. >> and i had the great pleasure of going into montgomery county six years later and saying margie margolis extra $35,000 on your taxes and your net worth increased by $23,000. >> up next, barack obama and big business haven't always had the easiest alliance. can he steal a page from the clinton playbook? this is "hardball." the place for politics. >> people ask me all the time how we got four surplus budgets in a row? what new ideas did we bring to washington? i always give a one word answer -- arithmetic. ♪ [ male announcer ] the first look...is only the beginning. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nast

. >> margie was talking about walmart moms, not college educated white women. there has constantly been this tension in terms of decision making. the democrats speak to them on economic issues, a health-care, fair wages. the republicans talk to them on immigration, god, and patriotism and welfare reform. they are trying to touch a nerve that basically isolate the fact that a lot the middle class people feel like they are on their own. we are trying to do the pragmatic thing and talk about them. the republicans are trying to attack it as the worst possible ankle to read them away. this is nothing new. you can call it what ever you want. i agree in terms of the motivation. they are playing a card which is a wedge card to get them at an emotional level that has nothing to do with their economic interests. >> what it is tapping into is this worry that a lot of people have, that somebody is getting a better deal than me. some people get to the head of the line for support. they literally feel this is some anxiety that someone has an advantage in like that i cannot g

and chairman of former out reach of mccain presidential campaign and margie ri and president of momentums. let's start with the vice president's comment regarding the 47%. obviously that is out of context because in recording governor romney said his word, my job is not to worry about those people who will vote for president obama no matter what. clearly referring to while he was campaigning for president, not anything he would do as president. so does the vice president really not realize that or is he intentionally misleading the public? >> i think it's a lot more from that comment. the phrases that the vice president use and you can't blame the vice president. he said those people are victims. he described half of the electorate as victims. those were his words. two-thirds of those people pay taxes, two, it includes students and elderly and veterans. three, you have a lot of leading republicans and conservatives this week calling mitt romney stupid, arrogant, a rolling calamity. that is from his own party. >> heather: but he was referencing people that will vote for obama that will no

along with margie o'mara and john and alone, all pollsters. the cyber security bill, obama ways other options. that is a statement by j. carney, the white house press secretary. atlanta on the independent line. you are on the "washington journal." please go ahead. caller: my comment is that i have watched the republican -- host: we're going to put you on hold. you've got to turn down the volume. just listen through your telephone. there is a little bit of a delay. fort walton beach, gary, on our independent line. please go ahead, gary. caller: what i want to know about is obamacare that they are talking about, the medicare plan, how much of that is going to involve people's personal lives? i mean, how much personal information will the government be allowed to retain, you know, people's personal accounts? how much is that going to allow the government to get into people's bank accounts? are they going to allow that to happen? host: why do you ask that question, gary? caller: right now, i have health care, my own. and if obamacare comes in, wil

. >> margie was talking about walmart moms, not college educated white women.antly been this tension in terms of decision making. the democrats speak to them on economic issues, a health-care, fair wages. the republicans talk to them on immigration, god, and patriotism and welfare reform. they are trying to touch a nerve that basically isolate the fact that a lot the middle class people feel like they are on their own. we are trying to do the pragmatic thing and talk about them. the republicans are trying to attack it as the worst possible ankle to read them away. this is nothing new. you can call it what ever you want. i agree in terms of the motivation. they are playing a card which is a wedge card to get them at an emotional level that has nothing to do with their economic interests. >> what it is tapping into is this worry that a lot of people have, that somebody is getting a better deal than me. some people get to the head of the line for support. they literally feel this is some anxiety that someone has an advantage in like that i cannot get. the republic

you will hear this morning from ,oel benenson, margie o'meara and john antholony. we have a great online audience as well and a tv audience. we are joined at nationaljournal.com and theatlantic.com. for any of minor tv viewers would like to join the conversation or post questions, please do so on twitter using # dailybriefing. i would like to introduce two to two moderators. they will begin their program with an interview with joel benenson. he served as a strategic analyst and worked with political leaders, business leaders and advocacy institutions. he is best known as the lead pollster for president barack obama during the 2008 election and he continues in that role today. welcome to all of you. thank you for being here. i will turn things over to ron and joe. >> can everybody hear me out there? year ago. bill, do you want to join us? that way he does now have to talk back and forth between us. joel, i appreciate coming. >> good to be here. >> this is a follow up on a conversation we had last week in tampa with ron kaufman when we talk a little bit about race an