marguerite. yes. -marguerite? -yes. -and so what do you do here? -i'm a production stitcher.do you have ideas of things you would make here? -i would really love for us to get into women's wear basically. but right now it feels like we make one piece of clothing. -i would love to learn about your skill. because ultimately, i have to get my head around, is this artisan craftsmanship? or is it manufacturing? is this a fashion business? -now that is a bad word around here. i don't know if you've heard. -why is that? -fashion is really focused on what is trendy. we make a product that is not a fashionable product. denim jeans are a workwear uniform of the people. -so you don't think that designing things that you put on your body are fashion? -i think before fashion is utility. it's about what people live in to do what they need to do. -i feel like when i'm talking to marguerite i'm talking to the anti-fashion police. taking things so seriously, i think everybody needs to just calm down. it's denim. it's supposed to be fun. i'd like to go through the process from the raw material

sterilize thousands of people who are mentally ill or mentally disabled, including my great aunt margueriteit only ended in 1979. if going to lay it out, let's talk about that and government control of your health system. >> jesse: reg said it this could be the #metoo movement for blackface. if you can get out in front of it and say i was in blackface or hold out until it comes out? >> juan: what we saw today, a republican, senate majority leader tommy norman was revealed to have edited a yearbook at the virginia military institute that had not only blackface but slurs. >> dana: all throughout. >> juan: that's a republican leader in the legislature. i think you guys are playing small ball. i think the big picture here is one in which you see white people, especially this generation of leaders of the top, felt it was okay. it was part of the culture of the state. to me, that's so deeply hurtful because you see people then move up. i am one who would be engaged in an act of forgiveness, especially for governor northam. but he's the one that was so duplicitous about what he did, changing his s

my great aunt -- i've said this before -- my great aunt marguerite in this country was sterilized because she was mentally disabled. this is something that went on in the state of virginia. thousands of people were sterilized in this country. just in the state of virginia, up until the late '70s. to think that can't happen again because we don't remember that -- that's what is dangerous. that's why socialism scares people. >> emily: that's a point i was going to make. my issue, too, the conversation -- not this one, but the national conversation that is so polarizing a philosophical is that it has no memory. but there so many voices at the kitchen table presently and among family members that aren't being representatives in the mainstream media, or those of te loudest on the left. the reality of the past. what i also don't understand is for those entrenched in our government and are continuing to seek that, the power grab they are engaged in, they are not utilizing what we have been seeing for the last decade. we talk about the green new deal and how to refresh things, how to save money,