helping president trump martha mcsally, or does his campaign hurt martha mcsally? quickly, i can -- martha mcsally. host: why? guest: because of the things we have been discussing, moving away from the traditional republican, libertarian philosophy in the state, a move away from civility and bipartisanship we have seen in the state. believet is hard to that given the president's divisive immigration rhetoric and my stomach sally's endorsement of that rhetoric and marthaps her -- mcsally's endorsement of that rhetoric that it helps her. chandlerry from support joe biden. good morning. .aller: good morning for the republicans backing trump, stand up in arizona at [indiscernible] and she is running for a seat [indiscernible] host: we are having a hard time hearing terry. fully he will call back. -- hopefully he will call back. let's go to harriet. she supports president trump. something, and i have heard it a couple of times about really ticks me off these 545 missing immigrant tilden. i don't -- immigrant children. i don't know if people are aware, but during the oba

joni ernst, martha mcsally. senatee big marquee races, how do you see the state of play? >> sometimes the senate gets when we areshuffle talking about this. but we have a historic nine republican female senators serving, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it's a lot. that's the good news. the bad news is six of them are up for reelection. it is fairly the way things have worked out. mentioned she was the top one. the fate of the senate rests in the hands of susan collins and martha sally -- martha mcsally. joni ernst. you could've had three stronger women that do more for -- to luzern you live

martha mcsally: i absolutely have. have publicly and privately repeatedly talk to president trump and asked him to stop attacking john mccain. and quite frankly if this is me off when he does it. it's been an honor to even work with senator john mccain. i learned about him as a cadet in the military about what he endured as a pow. and to be able to work with him to save and support our military enough to be able to serve in tennessee. so i repeatedly said stop doing that unit let him rest in peace. but one thing about senator mccain that we know if you're in arizona. whether you agree with them or disagree with them, he always know where he stood. there is not another example that were trying to invoke him but you can even take simple positions on whether going to support your card printer and investment chuck schumer or whether you support inc. for yoy one thing in the clouds of platitudes would you getting until arizonans where you stand. >> thank you senator. let's move on to climate change annually check 90 seconds

republican senator martha mcsally fighting to keep her seat in arizona. t trying to give her a moment in the spotlight. here's how the president treated her yesterday. watch this. >> martha, come up fast. come on quick. you got one minute. that's awkward for me. it's a president who wants to see these people on his coattails. he didn't rush any other law makers off that stage. can he afford to dismiss mcsally like that? >> of course not. martha mcsally needs to win that sit. one would assume the standard bearer of the party would want his party to win re-election. i had this bizarre interaction with the president in 2018 and he said it to me. he said something like it doesn't matter that republicans lost the house because it would be easier for me anyway. it's not easy for him at all. he was impeached and the last two years have been a nightmare for him for reasons including the coronavirus and outside the coronavirus. i mean martha mcsally is going to lose. maybe he didn't want to be reminded of that. martha mcsally has stuck with the president. h if i'm

to a real fighter in washington dc, senator martha mcsally.friend, congressman gosar, congressman molen, state party chair kelly ward, tiffany chin, and all of you who have been with us every step of the way . y. it is great to be back in the grand canyon state. but we are all here for one reason and one reason only, and that is that arizona, and america, need for more years of president donald trump in the white house. that is amazing to think we are just four days away from a great victory all across arizona, and all across america, and the road to that victory goes straight to -- go straight through arizona. [applause] i came here today because we need the freedom loving people of this great state to do just what you did in 2016. on november 3, we need arizona to show america that this is trump country. [cheers and applause] vp pence: so thank you all for coming out today. it is a real joy to be with you. it is. and i want to thank some people in particular who are here. i am honored to be joined by the tribal leaders in arizona and all acr

we need senator martha mcsally back in the united states senate. [applause] yeah, martha! v.p.it starts with our national defense. and standing beside those who have defended our freedom. when it comes to law and order, i could not be more proud to serve alongside a president who has stood every day with the men and women who serve on the thin blue line of law enforcement. [cheers] v.p. pence: that includes the men and women of customs and border protection and i.c.e. [applause] v.p. pence: you know, where joe biden wants open borders, taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants. policebiden wants to end e. andation with i.c. suspended the remain in mexico program. president trump has remained . officers, our i.c.e and we could not be more proud that the national border union council have i.c.e. endorsed president trump for four more years. [applause] results speake for themselves. with their efforts and this president's leadership, this summer apprehensions dropped by 70% for illegal immigration. in our first three years, we deported over 16,000 gang members and arreste

helping president trump martha mcsally, or does his campaign hurt martha mcsally?ckly, i can -- martha mcsally. host: why? guest: because of the things we have been discussing, moving away from the traditional republican, libertarian philosophy in the state, a move away from civility and bipartisanship we have seen in the state. believet is hard to that given the president's divisive immigration rhetoric and my stomach sally's endorsement of that rhetoric and marthaps her -- mcsally's endorsement of that rhetoric that it helps her. chandlerry from support joe biden. good morning. .aller: good morning for the republicans backing trump, stand up in arizona at [indiscernible] and she is running for a seat [indiscernible] host: we are having a hard time hearing terry. fully he will call back. -- hopefully he will call back. let's go to harriet. she supports president trump. something, and i have heard it a couple of times about really ticks me off these 545 missing immigrant tilden. i don't -- immigrant children. i don't know if people are aware, but during the obama a

martha mcsally tied herself closely to donald trump. thank you so much. our thanks to mr.l. >> thank you. >>> arizona just one of the states that the organization swing left has turned their attention to with the goal of flipping the state from red to blue. i'll talk to an actor lengthing the star and voice to that effort. billy eichner joins me next. don't go anywhere. >>> there are 35 senate races that are up for grabs next week. as with discussed before the break, the democrats neat a net gain of four to control the senate. it's now crunch time for advocacy groups targeting the battleground senate races. with covid protocols in place, many are relying on phone banking from home to get out the vote. one organization's volunteers have logged more than 4 million calls and getting a little help from one of the loudest voices out there. and i mean loudst literally. joining me is actor and writer billy eichner. we really wanted elena, but we're going to accept you as a replacement. >> wow. >> i love elena. if any of you at home watch, you'll agree with me. you're working with

came to mcsally who is up for re-election in arizona whose political future is tied to trump's with the republican majority in the senate hanging in the balance, he treated her like this. >> marthacome up fast, quick. fast. fast. come on, quick. you have one minute. one minute! >> barely a minute, barely an introduction as mcsally grinned and beared it. just at that pose that with how he treated kelly ward in arizona. ward, now head of the state's republican party. in 2018, lost the republican primary to martha mcsally. >> and a friend of mine, somebody that was great, she would have been, if she didn't have three, four people running at the same time, she would have been your senator. hate to say it, she would have been your senator, a friend that's so loyal and strong and a good person, arizona gop chair kelly ward. she worked so hard. she is some warrior and fighter. >> this is what embattled republican senators must endure to hold off the wrath of president trump and his supporters, absolute loyalty, 100% of the time, and all the while, trump's loyalty to them rolling off faster than an arizona tumble weed. i want to talk with chief political correspondent dana bash. dana, i

she has been a great, great senator and just go out and vote for martha mcsally. second amendment. save your second amendment. thank you, darling. she has done a great job and she's a worker and she's a great fighter pilot. they told me all about her, some of the pilots said she was a great fighter pilot. thank you, martha, thank you, doug. we also have a congressional candidate they say is a star in the making. i've heard it from a lot of people. vote for brandon martin. good luck, man. i hear it's going good. brandon martin. thank you, brandon. you are going to do great. i heard you are doing really well. under my administration, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world and we are doing it again. make america great again again. again again. we did it and now we have to do it again. it's all right. and it's happening much faster. looks like a super v. it looks like -- in my first three years, we increased family income more than five times the gain in all eight years under the last administration -- think of that. five times more than eight years

last night mark kelly, the democrat, debated with the republican, martha mcsally.ly has consistently been down in these polls by high single digits. when you open up the polls even more, she's down by about 25 percentage points among independents. to give you an idea when she ran in 2018, she only lost independents by three percentage points. that is why this exchange between her and one of the moderators in last night's debate was so telling. take a listen. >> are you proud of your support for president trump? >> i'm proud that i'm fighting for arizona -- >> senator, the question was, are you proud of your support for president trump? >> i'm proud to be fighting for arizona every single day. >> is that a yes or no for president trump? >> putting legislation on president trump's desk. >> reporter: that response, aman, is essentially the republican party. senator jeff flake, the republican from arizona, was essentially run out of office. he left his post, didn't run for re-election after he spoke out against president trump. that's where you see martha mcsally who w

certainly martha mcsally comes to mind. joni ernst. susan collins. these you see some of marquee senate races? sometimes the senate gets lost in the shuffle. 2020, we have a historic nine female senators. it's does not sound like a lot. that is the good news. six of them are up for reelection. he mentioned a couple of the top ones. you could not have three stronger women who are better for their states. help theis trying to three of them. the money flowing into these races is extraordinary. race $22 million. the problem is that mark kelly raised $40 million. the same is going on in iowa. the challenger in maine raised more. it is extraordinary. sarah gideon raised more money out of portland oregon than portland maine. the democratic side has a decade honest. .n terms of online fundraising it has really been a struggle for us to keep up. 58 million dollars was raised against lindsey graham. how do you spend that kind of money? there are not enough channels in the south carolina medium -- media market. at some point it stops being about who is the bett

bill cassidy, kevin kramer, ted cruz, steve daines, ron johnson, james langford, mike lee and martha mcsallype i didn't leave anybody out. [applause] and a very special thanks to our great vice president, mike pence. thank you, mike. [applause] also, i want to thank white house counsel, that si pat said i want to welcome justice barrett's husband, jesse. thank you. [applause] and we also recognize your seven beautiful children who become just very, very popular in this nation. people have been watching them and loving them and they are watching right now back home in indiana. thank you very much. [applause] i speak to everyone when i say the barrett family has captured america's heart. it's highly fitting that justice barrett fills the seat of a true pioneer for women. justice ruth bader ginsburg. tonight justice barrett becomes not only of the fifth woman to serve on the nation's highest court, but the first mother of school-aged children to become a supreme court justice. very important. [applause] over the past few weeks, the entire world has seen justice barrett's tremendous knowledge, p

martha mcsally working hard to distance herself to the fact she's voted with trump initiatives 99% thether time. she was asked does she regret being as close to donald trump as she is and she wouldn't give a straight answer to is. this is another state remarkably motivated in voting and donald trump like pennsylvania and florida where he's spending time, he needs to hold other places that were closer than arizona and he's still got to dedicate time now to coming in here and trying to shore up the votes he's got. there are a lot of reasons why the vote looks to be going the way it's going in arizona. we're going to talk about some of them later with mark and a voter panel i held on the border. immigration being probably one of the biggest deals in this state, more questions today about the border wall, the supreme court chiming in on the funding of the border wall using pentagon funds to do that and trying to figure out whether that is legal. this is at the heart of the campaign tore donald trump in arizona. his hardline on immigration. he's got about two weeks to figure out whether it'

senator martha mcsally's is probably at the top of that list. he was very clear he's not necessarily excited about what she presented as her vision. mcsally has had a hard time in the last couple of months trying to tap dance about how she feels about the president, often trying to not answer the question whether she's proud of his record. yesterday she said that, but it may not give her much help. florida is a place the president has spent the most time, the most stops in the last a couple of weeks since returning to the trail. he'll be back here likely at least twice before election day. it's his adopted home state, a critical place he won in 2016, and really you see the strategy unfolding here, as playing defense. in florida, in north carolina, and in pennsylvania, those will be the states he's most focused on. today we'll see something, andrea, away haven't seen in a year and a half, that's first lady melania trump joining her husband at this rally behind me. thousands expected here. she hasn't been at a rally since the last election. >> we k

mark kelly outraising appointed incumbent republican senator there martha mcsally by quite a bit. but recent polls in arizona just show an increasingly yawning gap there were martha mcsally, even though she's the incumbent, looking like she's going to lose that seat to democrat mark kelly in arizona. even in closer races or races where the republican incumbent still has a polling advantage, we are seeing really huge fund-raising numbers for the democratic challengers to republican senators. right now in north carolina, democrat cal cunningham is running narrowly ahead of incumbent republican senator thom tillis. republican senator lindsey graham has been publicly hysterical over how much his democratic opponent jaime harrison has outraised him in terms of fund-raising. harrison is running a very good point in a red state. that polling has pinged back and forth between a graham lead and a few different polls that have shown harrison and graham in a tie. up in maine, where the democratic party is now making signs that say "trump/ collins" -- the democratic party is making those sign

bill cassidy, kevin kramer, kate cruz, steve daines, ron johnson, james langford, mike lee and martha mcsallyidn't leave anybody out. [applause] and a very special thanks to our great vice president, mike pence. thank you, mike. [applause] also, i want to thank white house counsel pattiso pat said. and thank you, jesse. [applause] we also recognize your seven children, your great beautiful children who become really just very, very popular in this nation. people have been watching them and loving the letting them ande watching right now back home in indiana. thank you very much. [applause] i speak to everyone when i say that the barrett family has captured america's heart. it is highly fitting that justice barrett fills the seat of a true pioneer for women, justice ruth bader ginsburg. tonight justice barrett becomes not only the fifth woman to serve on the nation's highest court, but the reversed mother of school-aged children to become a supreme court justice. very important. [applause] over the past few weeks, the entire world has seen justice barrett's deep knowledge, tremendous poise and

phil rucker, looking at this race, so far mark kelly has been ahead in arizona, way ahead of martha mcsallyraditionally red. what are you seeing there and in south carolina? >> what's interesting about the arizona race is mcsally has trailed mark kelly, her democratic senator opponent, by a wider margin than trump has trailed biden in the presidential ballot in that state. we've seen that pattern in some other senate races as well. and so what that tells you, what political strategists in both parties are observing in this final month of the campaign, trump underperforming his own race will have an even greater drag on the senate candidates because they're underwater. what they really need is the president to either win those states or at least put in a respectable performance, only lose by a couple of points and maximize his own turnout so that those voters can in turn vote for those republican senate candidates. but at this hour that doesn't seem to be happening, according to virtually all of the public polling. >> and donna edwards, the surprise of the year so far has been jaime harrison

and i want to show you trump today with martha mcsally.r, this is a woman who has signed over, as have many members of the u.s. senate, her political life to trump and trumpism. she's fighting for her political life in return for this. >> martha, come up, just, fast. quick. fast! fast, come on, quick. you got one minute. one minute, martha. they don't want to hear this, martha. quick, quick, quick. let's go. >> i'm coming. thank you, president trump. >> robert, i'm tempted to ask how he treats the people he likes. and what downballot races are you watching, how confident are you that the control of the u.s. senate for starters will shift. >> look, i think the races that are watched, that you want to watch here, the races like arizona, which you just talked about. north carolina, colorado, maine, obviously alabama. it's going to be a contested race. within that top tier set of races, right now you would say the democrats, as many of the polls do, are slight favorites to control the u.s. senate after election night. they need to pick up thre

republican senators martha mcsally of arizona, cory cardinal of colorado, steve daines of montana, tomof north carolina, they are all facing very competitive races. democrats must flip for seats to when the majority and just to let you know in the last little while, mark kelly is up above martha mcsally. are you in danger of seeing the senate flip? >> i don't think you will see the senate flip, i think you will see the republicans maintain control of the senate and this is the reason why. you have a couple of issues that are pulling races into competitive space like john james in michigan, and more crunch i.d. in new mexico. the issues are fracking and at the energy issue, nobody wants to go back to $5 per gallon gas, and the other is the issue of lockdowns and it joe biden not being opposed. he sang he might lock down the economy again and people are saying we want to get back to work, we want children back in school, we want life to return to normal. it is a huge issue with women. they want children back to school and while they may say, well, i don't like the way donald trump talks

senate candidates republican senator martha mcsally and democratic challenger mark kelly.his is the only live debate between the two candidates. it's a joint effort brought to you by the arizona commission and media organizations from across the state. i'm ted simon's host and managing editor of the arizona horizon and joining me tonight, political reporter with the arizona republic. the host of arizona 360 and steve goldstein, the host of the show. >> we are broadcasting from the studios at arizona pbs and school of journalism in downtown phoenix. tonight's debate is also being live streamed on participating media websites including central.com, kjzz, and azpm.org. topics were chosen by journalists from the four participating media outlets. questions from the public solicited by the commission or also included. the ground rules for the debate are followed. once we ask a question both candidates will have 90 seconds to answer without interruption. the candidates will then get 45 seconds for a rebuttal again, without interruption. we will then have up to two minutes for an

look what happened to martha mcsally on the stage in arizona yesterday. she didn't give a pledge of ultimate loyalty to donald trump by pointing to things she wasn't proud of the working with him? and he gave her less than a minute on stage and was rude to her. i think she knows that and is her ticket to victory in georgia. we'll have to see. >> thank you, bakari, gloria. >>> path of electoral votes going right through florida. how that state could make or break the election for president trump and joe biden. >>> plus more on the breaking pandemic news we're following. the u.s. death toll now surpassing 228,000 people as the virus sweeps across the united states in a deadly second wave. we'll be right back. >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. this couple was on a camping trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ >>> breaking news with

martha mcsally come here for reaction. that person was on your campaign, would you fire them?f they worked for me, i'd fire them. >> while they wouldn't be working for me but i would fire them right away. keep in mind, this man tweeted this out the week before he was hired by mark kelly to be his spokesman. he hired him anyway, the tweet was out there and they just got caught. he is not fired him and he is still in his circle. you are known by the company that you keep and this is no surprise coming from mark kelly. he refused to shake the hand of a border patrol agent, he's in minneapolis supporting ilhan omar and helping her get elected. i backing the blue, i've got the endorsement of the arizona police association representing 12,000 men and women in uniform. they know i have their backs but this is another reason, this vile, despicable language and a spokesperson for mark kelly is another reason why he cannot get elected and why we need all hands on deck to hold his seat in the senate majority. >> sean: okay. what are his problems with china because he's got his own issues

you've got martha mcsally, two great conservative women. you got susan collins is been just terrific senator from maine. help judge kavanaugh, helped us with the tax cuts. help all of us. we cannot turn over the entire government to this radical left. schumer's speech tonight was disgusting. he's the guy that started the filibuster with bush 43. he's a guy along with senator kennedy who declared war on all things conservative. it is alito, kavanaugh, thomas, bork. it's not the process. they tried to destroy judge kavanaugh's life. amy barrett is probably a beneficiary from the kavanaugh hearings. it blew up in their face. the american people hated what they did to kavanaugh, so i think they were more respectful to judge barrett. let me just say this. the internet is on fire tonight. they are raising money like crazy to take back the senate and beat president trump. help me. everybody trickle help everybody i just named. lindseygraham.com. my opponents raised a hundred million dollars. the most in the united states, history of the senate. le

martha mcsally is doing so bad that she needs trump voters to help her. she's trailing so much behind where president trump is. >> all right. susan, ashley, vaughn, thank you to all three of you for starting us off this hour. georgia republican senator david purdue facing backlash for appearing to mock the name of vice presidential nominee kamala harris. into. >> the most insidious thing that joe biden and chuck schumer are trying to promote, joe biden, kamala, i don't know, whatever -- >> purdue's campaign called it a simple mispronunciation, but critics pointed out the racist overtones of the comments there. purdue's democratic opponent jon ossoff raise over $1.8 million from at least 42,000 donors off of that viral moment. earlier this year purdue was criticized for releasing an ad that exaggerated ossoff's nose who is jewish. the campaign said it was an accident. joining me now is democratic candidate for senate in georgia, mr. ossoff, thank you for joining us. real clear politics shows you and senator perdue neck and neck. how are you feeling how thi

and martha mcsally was on stage calling mark kelly a communist. but they've got to pick up two other states. maine looks promising and after that north carolina, obviously cunningham is running into some issues right now. iowa is red state, so is montana, so is alaska. so they're going to have to pick up in other states somewhere if they want control of the senate. and i think that should give them a little bit of concern. >> mr. gibbs, i'm coming to you after a break. both gentlemen have agreed to stay with us. >>> and coming up, it's not impossible we'll soon hear senate republicanss saying not only did they not like the guy, they don't recall ever meeting this donald trump person. they don't recall ever meeting this donald trump person who is usaa made for? it's made for him a veteran who honorably served and it's made for her she's serving now we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids become a member. get an insurance quote today. transitions light under control. ♪ upbeat music transitions signature gen 8, available now in 4 new st

trump also welcomed up arizona senator martha mcsally. they have a tricky relationship.ause trump isn't too popular in arizona, she's been hesitant to fully endorse him. let's see if he noticed: >> martha mcsally. martha. ( cheers ) great. great, martha, great. martha, come up. just fast. quick, quick. fast. fast, come on, quick. you got one minute. one minute, martha. they don't want to hear this martha, come on, let's go. quick, quick, quick, quick. >> stephen: that is rude but also kind of refreshing. usually, it's the woman who's telling trump to hurry up and get it over with. trump really has a lot of territory to defend, because "joe biden is making a late stage play for texas." (as biden) "that's right, we're goin' for it, jack! everything's bigger in texas! remember the alamo... also, remember where i put my glasses-- never mind, they're in front of my eyes. always the last place you look. come on!" give me some of that big toast, huh? joe could get texas! that would be so unexpected, but so great! like if bradley cooper and lady gaga became a real couple. we all

voters know her and it's a nationalized race, certainly some of senator martha mcsally's problems thatoters as you heard is too close to donald trump and the monmouth poll pulls that out. while she terrorize to say her opponent mark kelley would be a rubber stamp for democrat. he has been consistent and good at messaging and he has been an independent voice for the state while unfortunately she has been tagged as sort of a loyalist to donald trump that has helped her in a state moving away from trump and his style of politics. >> senator ben sass in a call to constituents had some really harsh criticism of the president. let's listen to a bit of that recording of the call and then we'll talk. >> if young people become permanent democrats because they have been repulsed by the obsessive nature of our politics or if women who were willing to still vote with the republican party in 2016 decide that they need to turn away from this party permanently in the future, the debate is not going to be, you know, ben sass, why were you so mean to donald trump? it's going to be what the heck were an

so you've got your race, mcconnell's race, martha mcsally, joni ernst, thom tillis in north carolina,e in alabama, georgia whe purdue is, the senate is as important as the president winning because this would be the biggest power grab in the history of p the country, and if you add four democratic senators, if you pack the court, if amnesty is something of value to attract people to your party in perpetuity, seems to me, lindsey graham, i don't know if we'll see another republican president in our lifetime. >> well, they'll do away with the electoral college, which means new york and california will pick the president forever. they will go from 9 to 13 members of the supreme court to wash away our conservative majority, do away with the filibuster in the senate, meaning anything coming out of nancy pelosi's house will go to joe biden's desk. we've got to win for selection. we got to get president trump elected, got to keep the senate. they are going to spend $100 million to take me out and all of my colleagues. what can you do? if you can help me, i'm going to be up here all week, i w

look at the races -- martha mcsally, who he stood right next to today. she's polling worse than donald trump. and it's because only donald trump kind of gets away with the stuff he's been pulling over the past four years. when other people try to mimic it it doesn't work as well for them. so there are going to be republicans that try to draw some separation in the last coming days before the election but it is too late. their fates are tied to trump. they will be judged the same if not worse. >> john, the president is really using a new line on the campaign trail. listen to it and we'll talk about it. >> if you vote for biden he will surrender your jobs to china. he will surrender your future to the virus. he's going to lock down. he's going to want us to lock down. he'll listen to the scientists. >> what, what -- in what world is not listening to the scientists a good thing? i mean, are we living in a world where siding with science is bad? >> every single word donald trump said in that sound bite you just played was complete nonsense. but in terms of t

martha mcsally was asked twice, are you proud of your support for president trump. >> she's going toally with him. she's all over the state with him. martha mcsally supports the family, certainly supports lowering regulation, the largest tax cut in history, rule of law justice, building up our military. the things this president has done, prior to the pandemic, and now coming out of it with 11.4 million jobs added, added 1.3 million jobs in the last three months, under 8% unemployment. listen, joe biden is saying dark days are ahead. president trump is saying the best is yet to come. there are two contrasting visions for the country and joe biden is saying i'm going to raise taxes out of the gate, the president is saying i'm going to continue to grow the economy which we're already seeing coming out of this pandemic. chris: chairman mcdaniel, we'll have to leave it there. thank you. i think you made it clear what you think the contrast between the candidates is. thank you for your time this weekend. >> thanks for having me. chris: up next, a look at the biden campaign's strategy in t

the martha mcsallies and the susan collins and the lindsey grahams out there. all of these people need to go, they need to be wiped out in this upcoming election. and if they are, maybe the republican party will regroup and say, you know, maybe we should be about something -- about principle rather than just power. maybe we should put our country first and see what we truly believe in. and if they do that, it might work out. i don't think that's going to happen very quickly. because you'll have all sorts of holdovers from this trump era. and that's a losing strategy. it's a losing strategy for 2020. it's going to be a loser in 2022. and if you go into the future and look at young people, they have zero interest in this guy you're looking at now with the red hat. there's no future there. at some point in time, they will regroup. i will say the democratic party, you know, four years from now or eight years from now, they'll have to figure out where they are right now, also. are they going to go way left or be more of a joe biden mainstream party? both parties wil

but the democratic candidate mark kelly is doing extremely well against martha mcsally, and i think he's very likely to win. but that's rare. i got to tell you, in the vast majority of cases, just as we saw in 2016, these races are going to operate, as you said, on parallel tracks. and by and large, the vast majority of voters now are so polarized and so partisan that they're going to vote for a particular party for the white house and go right down the ballot and vote for the same party all the way to the courthouse. that will be true for both parties. it will keep the results in line with one another for the most part. >> jessica, what would you say are some of the most fascinating senate races that you're looking at? we heard a lot about the races in, say, north carolina -- south carolina, rather, with lindsey graham and jamie harrison. is that at the top of your list or are there others you're watching? >> the money that they're spending to save north carolina, texas and alaska just shows you how far this map has grown. in the toss-ups i would watch, as larry mentioned there, that we

and martha mcsally was on stage calling mark kelly a communist. and saying she was with donald trump 100%. that's not a winning strategy in arizona. that campaign is pretty much over. but they've got to pick up two other states. maine looks promising and after that north carolina, obviously cunningham is running into some issues right now. iowa is a red state, so is montana, so is alaska. so they're going to have to pick up in other states somewhere if they want to have control of the senate. and i think that should give them a little bit of concern. even though obviously numbers are looking pretty good on balance. >> mr. gibbs, keep your powder dry. i'm coming to you after a break. both gentlemen have agreed to stay with us. >>> and coming up, it's not impossible that we'll soon hear senate republicans saying not only did they never like the guy, they don't recall ever meeting this donald trump person. robinhood believes now is the time to do money. without the commission fees. so, you can start investing today wherever you are - even hanging wit

but you talk about a guy that just -- poor martha mcsally, thrown under the bus. he does to you, republicans. >> kasie, you have reporting on the state of play in georgia and elsewhere. tell us about it. >> yeah, you know i don't want to play devil's advocate here, joe, but i'm going to for a second. i think the sunbelt states that we have been talking about, my question is honestly whether we're going to be talking about a different set of battlegrounds because i have been talking to sources and the idea that we would put georgia ahead of north carolina as a possible biden state seems totally counterintuitive, but that is what my sources are suggesting might actually be the case. people that are looking at internal data on the republican side a little bit more worried in some ways about the president's chances in georgia. don't forget they have two senate races going on down there. they're digging into a lot of data there. texas, "the new york times" has a huge story on texas today. ted cruz reportedly telling president trump that he's got a real race on his hand

you've seen martha mcsally running behind president trump in arizona.k kelley doing better than biden in polling in arizona. those two seem to jump out when you look at targets for democrats. >> jessica, does that seem right for what you're seeing? right now it seems based on your ratings democrats are still the favorite to potentially take back the favorite. >> they are. honestly, we're not moving hardly any races in our final ratings. we made big shifts two weeks ago. the race largely remained stable from again. steve mentioned arizona is rated as lean democrat. those are the two most favored to flip. you have to factor alabama, the democrats are likely to lose. but i think colorado from everyone i talked to on cory gardener is on pace to lose by double digits. in arizona, i think martha mcsally is the underdog there. >> the other three senate races are maybe complicated. iowa, maine and north carolina. it's an interesting one. walk us through the numbers there. >> the polling averages. susan collins in maine. been there since 1996. she survived in a

you got martha mcsally, who has actually never been elected to the united states senate.aving trouble with jon ossoff. they're tied. beating kelly loffler and doug collins. you've got teresa greenfield who is whooping joni ernst right now. you've got susan collins who is also concerned and losing. steve bullock is leading in montana. it goes on and on. jaime harrison appears to be prepared to maybe beat lindsey graham who i've even heard from republican friends whining for money, begging for money. in texas, mj hager has caught up. i don't understand this -- >> and don't forget alaska. don't forget alaska. >> oh, alaska, exactly. you know, i don't understand the ride or die. i mean, at a certain point there is a certain sense of political self-preservation, steve, and understand the people calling you and calling claire at some point just don't cut bait. if they think they're going to lose and complaining about it, why don't they just leave him? >> too late. they have tied themselves to the mast and they are going down with the ship. it is too late for them to cut the rop

the senators -- >> chris: wait a minute, mark makes allie -- wait, martha mcsally was asked twice or proud her support for president trump. it >> ronna: and she's going to rouse with him, she's all over the state with him. martha mcsally supports the president, she certainly supports lowering regulation, the largest tax cut in history, building up our metairie. the things this president has done prior to the pandemic and now coming out of it with 11.4 million jobs at a grade without at 1.3 million jobs in the past three months, we are under 8% on employment. i mean listen, joe biden's same dark days are ahead, president trump is saying the best is yet to come. took a very contrasting visions for the country, joe biden saying i'm going to raise taxes right out of the gate, the president saying i'm going to continue to grow this economy which we are already seeing coming out of this pandemic. >> chris: we are going to have to leave it there. thank you, i think you've made clear what you think the contrast between these two candidates is. thank you, thanks for your time this weekend. >>