mary trump joins me now, she's donald trump's niece and the author of too much never enough, our familyitle gives away basic view of her uncle. thank you for coming on the show. why do think your poor cousins, don junior and eric have such poor memories? they can't seem to recall anything. it's a real problem for them? >> it's very or rescind since alzheimer's doesn't run in my family. but i think a simpler, less scary explanation for what is going on. donny and eric think i had three choices going into their testimony. they could either plead the fifth, which is as we know in a civil case is -- very different from pleading the fifth in a criminal case. it can be used against you in a particular way. they could lie, commit perjury or they could tell the truth. and i think they chose a version of the first one, which is simply to say they remember absolutely nothing because lying in a courtroom is very different from flying outside of the courtroom and telling the truth for these people is never a good option. >> so on that note of telling the truth, inside a courtroom versus outside whe

very much for your reporting as always. >> thank you very much for having me. >> joining us now is mary trump, clinical psychologist and niece of donald trump, she is the author of the reckoning, our nation's trauma and finding a way to heal. mary, thank you very much for joining us tonight. when i saw the imagery of donald trump in the courtroom today. i thought of you. let's take a look at that. i was wondering, what she thought when you saw this image of donald trump. these are the cameras that are allowed in the court before the proceeding officially gets underway, just so they can establish a photographic image of the room for audiences. what do you see when you see that man sitting at that table? >> i felt the need to tell him that spouting is not an affirmative defense. but he clearly didn't get the message. he probably thinks he is looking stern, and he is staring everyone down. but he does look like a disgruntled toddler. and i think you've covered, really thoroughly, the fact that his lack of intelligence has gotten him in trouble in his testimony. but the other thing, one other thi

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mary trump tweeted about eric trump's testimony. she said, quote, unbelievable. eric testified today and basically just lost the entire case. after testifying he had never heard about the trump organization's statement of financial condition, until recently. he later admitted he knew about it in 2013. after saying he never worked on it, he was shown an email where employees were told he was working on it. they like so much they can't even keep track of their own bs. sounds like perjury is on today's menu. end quote. talk to me about this. >> listen, mary trump's spot on. i've been saying the exact same thing. you know, don junior and eric lied under oath. in fact, all they are doing is emulating their father, who was put on the stand under oath by judge engoron, in regard to statements that he made outside the courtroom about the judge's law clerk, claiming it was me. she is 100% correct! i mean, the guy lies the way that you breathe, and the kids are doing the same thing. how stupid do they have to be? i really, it is sad to stay, how stupid do you have to be wh

while she never spoke out publicly and critically about his presidency, his niece and her niece mary trump did release audio records of his sister talking critically of trump while he was president. we have not heard of the former president on this death, but it is a developing story of the details that she passed. and she was the eldest of five siblings, and we know that donald trump's youngest brother, robert, passed away in 2020. >> all right. yes, more information to come on this. thank you, kristen. we will continue to follow this, and also coming up for us in the civil trial of donald trump and the business empire, and while the trump just sided with trump's legal team while don jr. is on the stand. and a big question in congress is can the house republicans avoid another government shutdown. we have new reporting of where the vote count stands and how challenging math is looking right now for house speaker mike johnson, and not donald trump jr. though. >>> and the popular weight loss drug wegovy, and the promising studies coming out for your heart. you will want to hear this. >>> al

the judge already found trump and his company liable for fraud. so this trial, anne-marie, will detemine how much trump will have to pay in penalties. the attorney general's office is seeking $250 million and to bar trump and his children from doing business in new york. anne-marie? >> all right, chanel. shanelle kaul in new york. thank you. >>> now to the israel/hamas war. today marks one month since the horror began when terrorists descended on the israeli state killing more than a thousand people and taking over 200 hostages. the israel defense forces say troops captured a hamas compound, training facilities, and underground tunnels. and prime minister netanyahu says israel was open to little pauses in its fight, something the u.s. has been pushing for. doug williams is in tel aviv for us this morning. doug, good morning. >> reporter: anne-marie, good morning. the month of bloodshed that has unfolded since hamas first attacked has led to thousands being killed, and as israeli forces say they're closing in on hamas-controlled territories, predicting the scope of what may

. >>> the older sister of former president trump has died. maryy worked as a lawyer in the u.s. attorney's office and the new jersey district court. she worked in the u.s. court of appeals for almost 20 years before she retired in 2017. she was 86 years old. >>> if you were thinking about buying tesla's cybertruck and then flipping it, we have news for you. ahead this midday, the stiff penalty for anyone considering trying to profit from the a quick resale. >>> plus, counting down to a possible shutdown, the proposal where from the new speaker of the house and lawmakers working the house and lawmakers working to secure government funding. want a smarter way to mop? introducing the new swiffer powermop. an all-in-one cleaning tool with a 360-degree swivel head that goes places a regular mop just can't. mop smarter with the new swiffer powermop. ♪ from the mountains to the coast... ♪ ♪ heatin' up the kitchen ♪ ♪ we got somethin different ♪ ♪ spreadin' good vibes all day ♪ ♪ todos a la mesa ♪ ♪ que buena la mezcla ♪ ♪ it don't get no better ♪ ♪ livin

. >>> we continue now, and former president trump's sister, mary anne trump barry passed away overnight here in new york. sources say emted ress responded call regard iing cardiac arrest. she retired in 2019 amid an investigation into the trump family's tax practices. judge barry was 86. >>> we turn now to los angeles tonight, where a massive fire shut down part of one of the busiest and, of course, most con guested highways in america, part of i-10 was shut down, it remains closed tonight. mola lenghi in los angeles. >> reporter: tonight, structural engineers and contractors working around the clock to reopen one of the busiest freeways in the country. >> the urgency is now. we will get this taken care of. >> reporter: the rush hour commute shaking up downtown los angeles, as the 10 freeway, known to nearly 300,000 drivers, remains shut down, pushing commuters and commerce to other con guested highways. it's uncertain how long this stretch of the i-10 will be shut down. take a look at the freeway, it's usually packed with cars, but right now, you can see this is completely empty. what

former president trump's sister has died. mary ann trump berry was a senior judge on the third u.s.appeals, one level below the supreme court. she retired four years ago during an investigation in to the family's taxes. police say she was found dead this morning at her home here in new york city. no word on the cause of death. mary ann trump berry was 86 years old. and jason chaffetz with a blistering attack on what he says are president biden's dirty tricks to help democrats vacuum up voters. this is a very interesting story when we come back. use i know so many of you have served our country honorably. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is the eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. if you need cash for your family, call newday usa. with automatic authority from the va, we can say yes when banks say no. give us a call. moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injec

it was a hail mary. trump's legal team ask for it anyway. and that is how much they do not want more information about trump's connection to the january 6th riot to become public. but it looks like that is exactly what may happen. now just tonight, hours ago, a judge in colorado rejected an effort to keep donald trump off the states 2024 ballot. that case was based on part of the 14th amendment that virus from running for public office if they had engaged in insurrection. and even though that judge decided to keep trump's name on the colorado ballot, she wrote in her order that the court finds that trump engaged in insurrection on january 6th, 2021, through incitement. man, that is just a heck of a thing to have a court decide, formally. and it certainly does not bode well for donald trump, as all of these january six cases go to trial in the weeks and months and dayleading up to the general election. so buckle up. joining me now is david aaron, former prosecutor with justice departments national security division and lease rubin, nbc legal a

back in 2020 there was recordings that were released by mary trump, who is the niece of both maryanne the audio recordings were of maryanne speaking about her brother using the words cruel to describe him and somebody that had no principles. they had previously had a close relationship, donald and maryanne. donald, when he was running for president back in 2016 had even suggested that she would make a good u.s. supreme court justice. he later said that he was only joking when he did begin his presidency in 2017, she stepped down and became inactive in february of 2017, but this was all coinciing at the same time that a judicial investigation began into her as an extension of "the new york times" investigation by "new york times" reporter suzanne craig that led to a greater focus on donald trump as well as his other siblings, and the properties and the alleged tax fraud that they had engaged in when they took over the properties and the other assets from their father, fred trump, who first started the trump o. the trump tycoon that was here in new york. here at the age of 86, maryanne

. >>> breaking news, former president donald trump's older sister, mary anne trump barry has died. she served as a federal appellate judge in philadelphia, at a time when investigations into the trump family's tax practices began to heat up. former president trump has not yet commented on his sister's death. she was 86 years old. >>> new developments, why the feds are now investigating new york city mayor's text messages. >>> but first, they vowed to do it for the city, and they did. the lewiston, maine, boys high school soccer team just won the state title, near weeks after the deadliest mass shooting that state has ever seen, 18 people killed there. the blue devils beat the rtland rams 3-2 on saturday. lewiston's goalie said it feels great to win for the city and bring some good to the city. bravo to the team. we'll be right back. 'll be righ. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk o

in short smith is casting trump as one of the 1 it is 200 plus riot defendants who have already been charged. joining me now is mary mccord and former acting assistant attorney general for national security. she's also the co-host of the msnbc podcast "prosecuting donald trump." mary, it is great to see you tonight. we've not talked enough about the filings this week from the special counsel's office. this is very significant in that it ties all those jan 6 cases to the looming trial on donald trump. can you explain to me the significance of uniting those two as they call it mountains of case law? >> yeah, you know, first i have to say it's kind of funny to me how this has come up because a motion to strike parts of an indictment is really kind of a silly motion. it isn't made very often. the indictment isn't even given to the jury. and whether the court strikes it or not, and i don't think the court will for all the reasons jack smith argues, it's kind of meaningless when it comes to trial. what it may show is trump is willing to file a motion to actually prohibit the introduction of the evidence that jack smith h

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in short, smith has casting trump as one of the 1200 plus right defendants we have already charged. joining me now is maryistant attorney in washington d. c. and former acting assistant attorney general for national security. she is also, of course, the co-host of the msnbc podcast, parkas prosecuting donald trump. mary, it's good to see you tonight. we have not talked enough about the filings this week for the special counsel's office. this one to me seems significant in the it ties those 1200 plus jan six cases through the looming federal trial against donald trump on january six charges. can you explain a little bit the significance of uniting those two, as they call it, mountains of case law? >> yeah, first i have to say, it's kind of funky to me how this has come up, because emotions to strike parts of an indictment is kind of a silly motion. the indictment is not even given to the jury, and whether decor checks or not, i don't think the court will, for all the reasons that jack smith argues, it's kind of meaningless when it comes to trial, but this may show that trump is planning to actually file a

. >> so mary trump was here and i think we can leave it to family members to put trump on the couch andheory about his supporters' devotion, is that he's a loser, i'm paraphrasing. if they feel like losers, watching another loser rage against the establishment makes them feel better. you're welcome to weigh in on the why or the psychology of that. i want to ask you if you think there's been any diminishment in the intensity of their support for him. if you had to assess the threat today. >> i think it depends on who the they are. i think there's a hard core of ardent supporters whose fervor on his behalf has not dimmed. it has only strengthened. they see the special counsel investigation, our work as yet more evidence of a deep state that is intent upon taking down this change agent. i think there are a lot of reasonable people in this country who may have liked a lot of the policies the former president put forwards but are getting off when it comes to what they're seeing about his conduct with respect to january 6th and the election. the relevant question is that core of support, 25 o

johnson, distinguished visiting lecturer who has been reporting on trump's financial nonsense for decades, and mary mccord, former acting assistant attorney general, msnbc legal analyst, and cohost of the podcast, prosecuting donald trump. i have some great guests today. lisa, i will start with you. you were in court today. this is the part that galls me. look, i have seen plenty of crazy court shows and i have watched all 12 versions of law and order. what was the feeling like in the courthouse as the former twice impeached president is yelling and screaming and threatening people? were folks used to at this point, nonplussed? what was it like in the courtroom? >> i wouldn't say people were nonplussed. jason, the version of trump that you showed in one of his hallway press conferences as you were talking about the case today, that was a much quieter, calmer, controlled trump than the one we saw in the courtroom. so imagine that between the vitriol of his words and the emphasis in his tone, actually think that there was a chill over much of the courtroom. nobody had ever seen a witness behave like

trump with the polls. this was their legal hail mary to take trump off the ballot and now they are 0 for 3. >> laura: thisallace. the third ruling as i said in just a little over a week. these lawsuits were filed by a left leaning group that included a bunch of never trumpers, democrats and so forth. here is a key quote from the judge's ruling. she said to be clear part of the court's decision is its reluctance to embrace and interpretation which would disqualify a presidential candidate without a clear, unmistakable indication that such is the intent of section 3, the section 3 of the -- section 3 # i believe in the constitutional argument of the 14th amendment; is that correct, mike? that is correct and this judge came back from the break. we could not get anything worse for our country to simply take the leading presidential candidate off the ballot based upon a bogus, partisan legal theory that the democrats are pedaling here. the only way to disqualify an office holder under section 3 of the constitution, according to case law on the books for 150 years is to bring federal criminal charges for insurr

and i'm sure that mary trump thanks you. hink that mainstream political media does have this reflex to normalize what trump is doing. he announced at a campaign rally that his political enemies deserve to be eliminated and has also furthered a really draconian immigration crackdown that is basically terms for internment camps. dramatically reshaping federal workforce and his ideological image. it is more than just trump. but he does represent an ongoing threat. as the press critic says, we should be focusing on the state of the election. host: richard, good morning. caller: good morning, gentlemen. this is what i would like to say with all of the code of ethics. i read the act. if i'm not mistaken, it allows for different agencies to make their own rules and regulations. if that is accurate, i think that needs to be removed. it leads to corruption. it leads to what we are seeing now. what are your thoughts on that? guest: i'm not familiar with that statute, but i think that principle is quite sound. there is a conflict of int

and i'm sure that mary trump thanks you. hink that mainstream political media does have this reflex to normalize what trump is doing. he announced at a campaign rally that his political enemies deserve to be eliminated and has also furthered a really draconian immigration crackdown that is basically terms for internment camps. dramatically reshaping federal workforce and his ideological image. it is more than just trump. but he does represent an ongoing threat. as the press critic says, we should be focusing on the state of the election. host: richard, good morning. caller: good morning, gentlemen. this is what i would like to say with all of the code of ethics. i read the act. if i'm not mistaken, it allows for different agencies to make their own rules and regulations. if that is accurate, i think that needs to be removed. it leads to corruption. it leads to what we are seeing now. what are your thoughts on that? guest: i'm not familiar with that statute, but i think that principle is quite sound. there is a conflict of int

beautiful that it was impossible, how can i say, not to be successful, yes, indeed, they wrote that maris had a trumpvery proud of this , how to say, a fragment of your own, your life. veronica, you dreamed of such success in 2000, when you entered the conservatory, how many people were there , what helped, talent, luck, stubbornness, how you lived, how you studied, who inspired you, i had number 375, 501 entered man, i i don’t know, now there are still such competitions, but at that time chernushenko was the rector, when he spoke to the applicants, or rather , he said that this was the biggest competition in 20 years, i think, well, of course, of course i got there, naturally, but at that time the head of the department was seleznev, one of the outstanding basses, and he studied at a nearby conservatory , he really loved such caucasian voices, then he said that in the sapran sapran they sang, suddenly: veronica comes out and such an oily voice, in general, here somehow i liked him with my voice, there was a very big competition, and of course, the fact that my teacher, i recently said that my teache

trump's favor. that's a hail mary because the judge found that trump's financial statements are are fraudule fraudulent and said already he thinks there's enough evidence. and then trump's team will be calling as soon as monday, the attorney general's office wants to block four of the expert witnesses saying the valuations and accounting rules they're going to talk about is something that's been reresolved by the judge when he found the values placed on the properties were fraudulent. that will take up the bullk of the day. and donald trump's defense team said they're going to call eric and donald trump jr. and bankers, who are going to say they did their own due diligence when making these loans. it's up to the ag's office to say the banks issued the loans after receiving the fraudulent financial statements and relied on them in some way. ivanka trump wrapping her testimony yesterday and during the cross-examination of her they even got into some of this where she testified the bank was excited to do deals with emthis. they sent a team of bankers down to the golf course in florida before they agreed t

this trump trial is scheduled. >> those four people were very close to donald trump but they were not the biggest names. mary it surprise you that fani willis doesn't need testimony from meadows or giuliani to mount rubbing case against trump? >> there's a lot of other evidence out there. i think meadows could be very useful. giuliani, i think is so incredible that he would be last value. i mean certainly, charles and i both been prosecutors, you do sometimes need to put people on as witnesses who do not have a history of credibility. you explain that to the jury, and you work with them a lot to ensure that the jury can believe them. but giuliani, i mean, lie after lie after lie, he's been disbarred. you know, i'd be much more interested if i were her and mark meadows and what he could offer. but you know, i think she's prepared and trying to flip all these other lower witnesses, that if they have their own firsthand knowledge of things, they will be able to testify about this. >> then who do you think it's a big blow to him not getting offered a plea deal, giuliani or meadows? >> meadows. and i think that's

. >> marie: it was not perfect under president trump. >> raymond: heck of a lot better, marie. >> mariee base. he is trying to find solutions. >> harris: who cares about the progressive base, do you need votes this badly? he says he can beat anybody, just watch me, he says. >> raymond: we've been at the border, you see how border agents have been turned, in their words, to travel agent of every migrant entering the country and that is what we're seeing. they are surging and poor guy can't tweet because they need to register these people. what happens? reality is, funds for the border go to ngo's that are basically more travel concierge for migrants to go anywhere in the interior united states. or make sure they get healthcare. that is a human right. >> harris: a human right is to give healthcare to people who come here illegally? >> when accompanied children show up malnurrished and freezing -- >> harris: now you are layering on. >> marie: i said basically. >> chief owens. i follow him on the x. he said over the weekend, we've arrested two sex offenders, one subject with a warrant, mole

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and pick up and splinter a lot of that alternative to trump vote, it is not working. you know. these hail maryu know going all in on a state, you know, there are few examples where you can point to where it worked, only one, in modern times was john mccain in 2008 in new hampshire, but he say different -- old political hand. he had a real genuine support in the media. maybe not so much outside of media, but, you know, he was a smart techtician, i don't see evidence of that out of ron desantis. larry: rich, i'll come back to, that i don't mean to be redundant but look, there are options, none are palat able for desantis, if he loses to trump that sn that is no fun, but what if he loses to haley, that snow fun -- that is no fun either, trump has a 30. led in iowa. that will rec desantis, seems that anyone that happens, short of actually beating. there you, and desantis is gone. he is gone. tell me if him wrong. >> he has to -- i don't think you are wrong, he needs to iowa, he has to win it or very strong, but he had to win, subject of football, talking about hail mary passes did you see the vide

trump would win. he's a force to be reckoned with. ron desantis would be my second. >> reporter: mary alice park joins us now from washington. former president trump has planned to testify in open court in new york tomorrow. what can we expect. >> reporter: that's right, a big moment. no cameras once he takes the stand, but the former president has been talking to reporters in the hallways of the courthouse. we don't know what kind of witness he will be. in his first deposition for the case, he pled the fifth, the right not to self incriminate, 400 times. in a second deposition, he was much more talkative. trump, of course, has dismissed all of this, he says as a political witch hunt. his daughter ivanka will also take the stand on wednesday. linsey. >> maryalice, thank you. stay with abc news as we mark one year out from election day with extensive political coverage across all of our platforms. >> linsey: next tonight, a san jose police officer is no longer on the force after authorities say they discovered racist texts that he sent to a colleague. that other person is on administra

stop. >> sandra: manchin said i'm totally absolutely scared to death donald trump would become president again. byron, marief you. thank you for the conversation. >> thank you. >> john: we have been talking about the idf operation very targeted operation, idf says, inside the grounds of al-shifa hospital, the largest hospital in gaza. the idf releasing some new video that we have for you here. while they have not -- that's the hospital. while they have not yet come across any hamas fighters inside the complex, they did engage them outside. they did come up with a small cache of weapons here, flack jackets, other materials with which the terrorists could wage a campaign. there it is all lined up by the idf. again, sandra, it's believed that hamas has its headquarters in this complex well underground. victoria coates was saying earlier in the hour that this was an old british barracks that has a fairly extensive basement to it, that she believes, and israel believes, hamas has greatly expanded into multiple level headquarters well below ground. very difficult to get to. >> sandra: operational command center,

trump vote. it is not working and you know, obviously these hail mary passes, these sort of going all-in on a statexamples you can point to where this has worked. the only one i can think of in modern times was john mccain in 2008 putting it all in on new hampshire but john mccain is a very different -- he is an old political hand. he had a real, genuine support in at least in the media, maybe not so much outside of the media. you know, but he was a smart tactician, and i don't see any evidence of that out of ron desantis. larry: well, rich lowery, i will come back to that, i don't mean to be redundant but look, there are options here, none of them are palatable for desantis. desantis looses to trump, that is no fun. what if desantis loses to haley that is no fun either. if haley, suppose haley gets 18 and desantis gets 16 or 17 and then trump gets all the rest? trump has a 30 point lead in iowa. i mean that will wreck desantis -- seems to me anything that happens short of actually beating trump and desantis is gone, he is gone. tell me if i'm wrong, rich? you're the political guy. >> he has to, i

marie? >> all right. naomi ruchim, thank you very much. >>> donald trump jr. is expected back on the witness stand today in the new york fraud trial against his father and the family and their company. lawyers for the president -- for president trump, former president trump, will begin their defense today. after the prosecution rested its case last week. trump's oldest son testified he never worked on his father's financial statements and left the accounting to others. the trumps deny any wrongdoing. >>> with five days left to avert a government shutdown, house speaker mike johnson is pitching a new plan. his proposal would fund the government into next year, but it's already drawing criticism from both parties. natalie brand has details from the white house. >> reporter: house speaker mike johnson faces his first big test this week revealing over the weekend a proposal for a two-step stopgap funding measure. the first bill would extend money for veterans' programs, transportation, housing, agriculture and energy until january 19th. the second would fund the r

that is the irony of that is so unreal, and in that analogy that he's making, if he's mary magdalene, i guess donald trump is jesus in that analogy in the course of this? and so i think most republicans, even the speaker, and i would argue that the precedent, the wrong precedent to set is not kicking him out. a guy that's been credibly accused of all sorts of fraud in all of this in the ethics report signed out by democrats and republicans, lays out a blatant scheme. the precedent of not kicking him out is worse than the precedent of kicking him out. most all republicans want george santos gone. >> sorry, i'm still getting past your analogy of mary magdalene and jesus, but we'll move on. what will happen to santos' seat? let's tell people why there is all of this maneuvering going on if he is indeed expelled. >> reporter: the first thing that would happen is george santos becomes a former congressman, and the seat is declared vacant. under new york state law, that means governor kathy hochul has ten days to issue a proclamation for a special election. that special election has to happen within 70 and 80 d

trump organization that they had engaged in systemic fraud. they've lost the big aspect of this trial. putting the former president on the witness stand is sort of a hail mary, the reason they had to put on donald trump jr. and eric trump. now, in some of the other cases, mar-a-lago and in washington, d.c., those are criminal cases. you're a lot less likely to see the defendant testify because you can't make him self in a criminal case. that's what the constitution says. it's a little different here. normally you don't want your defendant to testify because it's fraught with peril. here they had no choice. >> i'm glad you mentioned the other cases, because you can imagine every prosecutor in the other cases are salivating with every single morsel. they're wondering if he'll open the door for their own cases. a statement he might make going off the rails, not answering the question -- remember, the judge wants direct answers. his attorneys in the other matters want even more precise and limited responses, because everything is tangentially related could be used against him in any of the other courtrooms. they're aware of that. that means anything from his fi

mary is the most expert, right. i don't disagree with any of her expertise. but trump will tweet about it.k exists in the system to correct for that. >> yeah. two quick points. the ultimate corrective here would be to move the recuse a judge cannon. mary detailed the sort of first strike against her, and the 11th circuit will see it that way. but the law is pretty tough to recuse someone. if she makes what they view as an elementary legal blunder, i think they'll not only appeal it but couple it with a motion to recuse her. but so far, she's little by little leaning slightly toward trump, not enough for them to go forward with that kind of motion. the second point i want to make for what brandon said, one thing she ignored and was able to because she didn't face the actual schedscheduling, trump, doesn't matter the content of the classified information. the charge is he had it and he shouldn't have had it. so the normal fight you would have in a terrorist case, we need that sentence and this sentence, is really all beside the point. she sets up for him to be able to go with the content. it

trump. host: mary is in las vegas, democrat, good morning. caller: yeah, good morning. should not be hearing praise for trump. come on. he is america's first dictator. he aligns himself with all of the dictators, ok? host: mary, what do you think the top news story of the week was to this question we are asking? caller: pardon me? host: what do you think the top news story of the week was? the children of donald trump was in that civil, broad trial in new york. caller: i think the top story is probably, you know, the war. i do not know how you deal with terrorists --coming on the news, saying they want to bomb israel. we only heard half of the torture and the stuff that they did to the people there. john, let me say this. will the american people please look up social security works.org and see the real, authoritarian agenda of the so-called republican party there? the conservative justice can talk about the threat our nature -- our nation is under, and also alex larson of social security works, if you could have those two people on the show. i sure would appreciate it.

trump. host: mary is in las vegas, democrat, good morning. caller: yeah, good morning. hould not be hearing praise for trump. come on. he is america's first dictator. he aligns himself with all of the dictators, ok? host: mary, what do you think the top news story of the week was to this question we are asking? caller: pardon me? host: what do you think the top news story of the week was? the children of donald trump was in that civil, broad trial in new york. caller: i think the top story is probably, you know, the war. i do not know how you deal with terrorists --coming on the news, saying they want to bomb israel. we only heard half of the torture and the stuff that they did to the people there. john, let me say this. will the american people please look up social security works.org and see the real, authoritarian agenda of the so-called republican party there? the conservative justice can talk about the threat our nature -- our nation is under, and also alex larson of social security works, if you could have those two people on the show. i sure would appreciate it. h

guest: people have been hoping glenn youngkin would be their hail mary to avoid a trump re-coordinationthe governor himself -- re-coronation. the governor himself was focused on the same legislative races and the idea was that if he won, he would have some momentum and be able to somehow spin that into becoming the anti-trump candidate that could make a dent, whereas the fact that he did not do very well last night means that that fantasy for however long it lasted is now over. and republicans are going to have to pick someone who is already announced. given the current polls, it is probably going to be donald trump. host: adrian's cologne -- idrees kahloon, thank you for the early morning with us. host: if you like to join the discussion after last night's results, we are focused on ohio but also basis in kentucky, virginia -- basis in kentucky, virginia. here are the numbers, democrats, (202)-748-8000. republicans, (202)-748-8001. independents, (202)-748-8002. sharon out of glen oak, maryland, line for democrats. go ahead. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: doing well. wha

trump. they impeached him twice for nonsense. they indicted him four times for noncrimes. they are trying to bankrupt his business in new york. and now trying to throw a legal hail marye him off the ballots. they fear president trump is going to beat biden like a donald trump on november 5th, 2024. they are doing anything they can to stop him. >> laura: all right, gentlemen, great to see both of you. thank you so much. the democrats thought they had a good week. right? we are going to explain how it all went way off the rails and what it means for 2024. stay there. ♪ if we want a more viable future for our kids, we need to find more sustainable ways of doing things. america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars in new technologies and creating plastic products that are more recyclable. durable. and dependable. our goal is a cleaner, healthier planet for generations to come. for a better tomorrow, we're focused on making plastics better today. bass pro shops and cabela's stands tall in our unwavering commitment to honoring our heroes. we extend our gratitude... beyond words... by proudly offering a legendary salute discount to those who protect our freedo

and then you house speaker's hail mary -- seeming to be deflating by the minute. donald trump demanding cameras for his upcoming trials. plus this -- -- >> you think donald trump is a great president, president? >> i think donald trump is the king of the world. you'll find out. >> you think it was a great president? >> he did and credible job. he did an incredible job and anyone who said he didn't, something's wrong up here. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> our friends at the good liars, live this hour with what they heard from the maga faithful and trump's legal issues about trump's legal issues, that's coming up later in the hour as well. >> we begin this hour once again in the middle east and the israel hamas war where israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has laid out his plan for a postwar gaza, which includes taking control of security in gaza indefinitely. this morning, though, on meet the press, he also spoke about some potential movement regarding hostages being held in gaza by hamas. >> the moment we started the ground operation, things began to change -- >> though, is there a potential

trump endorsed him in 2021. >> brian: the president is getting pushed to talk about the first act, talk about what you did with alice marie johnson and he is wary about it. he doesn't want to be associated with hellacious bail thing happening. >> lawrence: it is an issue ron desantis has attacked donald trump on. some folks got out of prison and reoffended. tim scott disagreed with it. >> ainsley: you should talk about the issue, abortion, they will have to find a way to deal with it. you can be for the first steps act and no one went to prison, she did. wonderful person, served decades and -- >> lawrence: they paid their debt. >> ainsley: he says i'm not for no cash bail. >> steve: today is joe biden's birthday, he's 81 and this was not the present he wanted where donald trump is beating him in the poll. >> ainsley: tributes powering in for r rosalynn carter. she passed yesterday joined by family and friends. >> steve: she comes from a democratic party family, support and love is coming from across it is political spectrum. >> that is right, rosalynn carter was able to learn the needs of the american people more easily t

when congress was in an impeachment inquiry over the first trump indictment, the ukraine scandal, we were hearing testimony from marieanovitch, alexander vindman, we were hearing direct testimony. they're still scraping around, and they have next to nothing. they can run with this, very little to stop them. but having nothing will politically hurt them. >> thank you. >>> "cnn this morning" continues now. >>> the third republican presidential debate is now in place. >> nikki haley and ron desantis getting the most attention. vivek ramaswamy made his presence known. >> in the last debate she made fun of me for joining tiktok. her own daughter was using the app for a long time. >> leave my daughter out of your voice. you're just scum. >> biden should step aside so we can see whether it's newsom or michelle obama. >>

trump. let's assume that there is some kind of hail mary that ron desantis, nikki haley or some republican can pull off here. what do they need to do, how do they message after tomorrow when they go on that stage for the third republican debate? what could they possibly be saying right now? >> sure. i will just say that everything i'm about to say that they should be saying they should be saying for years now, i think it really hurts the fact their credibility but they haven't been saying it. that said, clean slate, debate this week, he's gonna be testifying in trial. it's gonna be made to say your honor and be made to seem you're smaller than he likes to present himself as you said in the league on a man. i think there's opportunity there. the big opportunities what they should've been saying all the time, disguise a fraud and he's a loser, he is a fake. this was true in the election that he lost to joe biden, that he pretended that he won, it was true in his business career where he lied about how much money had. it was true when he screwed up with regular people at trump university, and the

mary dickens, thank you all. and again, a special thank you, secretary clinton, mrs. bush, mrs. obama, mrs. trump, and dr.e with my grandmother. and thank you all for your leadership that you provided for our country and the world. secretary clinton and dr. biden, we also welcome your lovely husbands. i mean -- this is a difficult day for my family. while we have been so enormously gratified by the love and support that we have felt from across the world, so thank you so much. as reverend warnock told me, my grandmother doesn't need a eulogy. her life was a sermon. and it was a mighty testament to the power of faith and to the power of a deep and determined love and she lived this public love story that we all know of that has inspired the world including in these last days. i think of all the things she accomplished. her most viral moment was when they were at a baseball game and the braves put them on the kiss cam. and just like today, i mean, people were crying at the braves game, you know. but we, we heard about it for years. it's amazing, but in my family, we all experienced those more private love s

the trump campaign says iowa governor kim reynolds endorsement of ron desantis quote won't make a difference comparing it to a hail mary pass at the end of a game. last night at a rally in des moines, iowa reynolds endorsed desandt and took a shot at former president trump. >> we need someone to put this country first and not himself. someone who most importantly can win. and that person is ron desantis. [cheers and applause] >> reynolds says she does not think trump can win a general election. she says the last time she spoke to trump was when he called asking her for an endorsement. the former president has a 27-point lead in iowa according to the latest demoines register poll. desantis and haley are tied for second. >> i think much more fluidity than what some of the national media wants to do. i think the people on the ground here see that there is a lot of people who just have not made a final decision. >> haley has risen as a real challenger in the fox news power rankings. in a new memo this morning the desantis campaign is specifically calling on haley drop out of the race calling them spoilers that will increas