masks are great, they have their place, surgeons wear masks and operating rooms, people were masks andvators, good for them, it probably helps. we've been arguing that for six months, before the surgeon general himself recommended masks. we thought why would masks be a bad idea? so we are not against masks, we never will be, but wearing a mask while you ride your bike? while you jog? when you're alone in your car, while you're walking in the woods, when you're standing on the beach? that's just insane. that's an insult to science. it's an insult to common sense. rules like that make people cynical when you force them to do unreasonable things. they will never believe you again. rules like that help no one and yet they are ubiquitous. in many democratic-controlled juristic jurisdictions, masks are required outside. it's the law. you have no choice. it rules like that are not about public health. rules like that are a form of obedience training. they are trying to see what they can make you do. they can make you do a lot, it turns out. most of the time we do what they tell us. we don't s

real men wear masks and these masks are essentially important.he chair views the failure to wear a mask as a serious breach of decorum. but in any case, i'm a big believer in wearing a mask and not sharing any, shall we say, air unnecessarily. >> tucker: real men wear masks, so you're a wuss if you don't wear aus mask. define "man for us if you would. i thought you didn't believe in gender. you're not a b real man if you don't -- what are you even saying? she's not saying anything. she is just judging you. and she's lying as she does it. we already played you a tape of pelosi mocking her own command, slinking around a hair salon in san francisco with no mask. that was fine with us, by the way, but not with her. we also showed you senator dianne feinstein of san francisco hanging around our private air terminal without a mask after she called for a law requiring you and all commercial airline passengers to wear masks. so these people are hypocrites, obviously. but it's worse than that. they are self-righteous. hypocrisy and self-righteousness are

masks are good. anyone who questions the goodness of masks are bad.t they are really telling you is that masks are magic. what appears to be a flimsy cotton face covering is in fact a holy amulet that protects us from disease more reliably than any modern medicine dominic medicine. he explains that actual masks are better than vaccines. >> i might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid van when i take the covid vaccine. >> tucker: this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me from a vaccine. following? more guaranteed. there are now degrees of guarantee apparently peer that is quite an endorsement from a leading man of science. there is nothing more important. but of course, our politicians didn't need to hear that. they already believe that. earlier this month, california's governor sent a tweet from his office with this command. "going out to you with members of your household this weekend, don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites. do your part to keep those around you healthy. underst

of masks that we need?hink that's the question that s to be answered. >> linderman: so what happened to that response center? >> (sighs) the amount of product that was purchased diminished. the pandemic w over, everyone's attention got diverted to something else, then the monies dried up. >> one day, america realizes, "we're not going to die from h1n1." >> it looks like swine flu is history. >> the world health organization just declared an end to the h1n1 pandemic alert. >> narrator: with the outbreak under control, prestige ameritech's ders weren't renewed. hospitals went back to buying cheaper masks from their overseas suppliers. reese's business nearly went bankrupt. >> the people that we'd hired, these people thastepped in to save america, they were rewarded by getting in an unemployment line. >> mendoza: when they asked you to ramp up, didn't the government guantee anything to help support you? >> no. >> mendoza: nothing. >> no. >> narrator: reese showed us letters he and his colleues wrote to the oba

when she wears a mask she gets an itchy or painful situation. ten minutes it becomes unbearable. she was born with a sweat gland condition that makes it hard to regulate body temperature. as a student she used to sit out physical education classes on hot days. but even a cool indoor environmenent doesn't alleviate the painful symptoms of mask wearing. >> translator: it bothers me. if possible i'd like to take it off. >> reporter: it may yonezawa wore a mask when going out. soon her face became swollen and her body temperature rose to 38 degrees. >> translator: i felt feverish and sick and had a terrible headache. i had to take some medicine and rest. >> reporter: now yonezawa uses a face shield instead of a mask. but even in the shade she can only wear it for an hour. yonezawa feels self-conscious about what people may think of her walking around without a mask. >> translator: it's difficult when i have to go to the bank or to the shops and there are signs stating that customers without masks will not be allowed. the looks of disapproval i get a

listen. >> as far as the mask is concerned, i'm good with masks. i'm okay with masks. i tell people wear masks but just the other day they came out with a statement that 85% of the people that wear masks catch it. >> what? -- >> -- >> -- i know that study. >> -- dla's what i heard and that's what i saw. >> the president said it is not true, it is not even close to true. s incredibly misleading and dangerous. and kaitlan such a stark difference that we heard from chris christie as he emerged from the icu. >> to be clear the cdc never said 85% of people who wear a mask get coronavirus. that study was about how people who dine in restaurants actually were more likely to get coronavirus. putting that aside it is a stark contrast to see the difference in the president's response and chris christie's. chris christie is the only person i believe to have come out of the debate prep sessions in that rose garden ceremonies where so many people who are now linked to have gotten covid-19 to come out and say you know what, that was messed up and what should have happened did not ha

people can wear masks. the leaders of all those other countries wear masks. most of us have become accustomed to wearing them. now, you need clear information from the white house and modeled whai behavior, and that's a challenge. >> ben, shannon, dr. jha, dr. roy, thank you so much. really appreciate it. thank you. >>> coming up, there are 32, just 32 days left in the presidential campaign. and only one of the candidates is now able to campaign. the other is in the hospital for an unknown amount of time. we'll turn to the presidential campaign after this break. knowing who we are is hard. it's hard. eliminate who you are not first, and you're going to find yourself where you need to be. ♪ the race is never over. the journey has no port. the adventure never ends, because we are always on the way. ♪ ♪ working, parenting, problem solving. at new chapter vitamins we've been busy too... innovating, sourcing organic ingredients, testing them and fermenting. fermenting? yeah like kombucha or yogurt. and we formulate everything so your body can really truly absorb t

>> we don't mandate masks. we offer masks. we live in a free society, jake. >> reporter: the dakotas lead the nation in covid cases per capita. in south dakota, leaders are divided on the message over masks. >> wear a dang mask when you're indoors. we're not asking you to sign up for the draft here. >> reporter: the governor says it should be a choice, if folks want to wear a mask, they should be free to do so. similarly, those who don't want to wear masks shouldn't be shamed into wearing one, but dr. fauci says now might be the time to take national action. >> well, if people are not wearing masks, then maybe we should be mandating it. >> reporter: questions about the effe effectiveness of masks are also complicating the covid crisis. the cdc recommends mask wearing especially when social distancing is impossible, citing laboratory studies that show masks reduce the spray of depositletdeposi drop lets. a new study shows if 95% of americans wore masks over 100,000 lives could be saved through february, but not everyone believe

husty without a mask on, i don't need to wear a mask now. in such a smaller way than the president or anybody else of authority. i would fault the president. but there are a lot of other people who have not been clear on this. there have been a lot of just unclear support. we need to be clear. masks and social distancing work. end of story. we've known it. all the hospitals in seminole county unanimously support a mask mandate. and an enforceable mask mandate. and it's worked, and they're still 100% behind it. because we were getting bad there for a while. >> all right. well, i appreciate your time, dr. husty. thank you, sir. >> thank you, erin. i appreciate it. >> out front now, dr. jonathan reiner, director of cardiac kath lab at gw, who advised the white house medical team under president george w. bush. and abby phillip, our political correspondent. so dr. reiner, tonight it's florida. cases obviously on the rise there. az said, you've got nine states with record hospitalizations in this country. and the president is heading to pennsylva

and off the mask. and he knows it. >> you know what, erin, the white house is acting as if the president has already recovered from this virus. and as dr. faust just explained, that is unlikely given where he is in the progression of this illness. so basically what we're looking at is the white house staging mission accomplished moment outside of the white house on the south portico with the president walking up the steps proving that he's just fine, that everything is great, that there's nothing to worry about. he's standing there in the doorway filming basically what we can only assume to be a campaign commercial because of the length of time he stood there seemingly walking in and out to repeat his steps in multiple takes like it's a television show. he is still sick. he just left the hospital and has not even completed his course of treatment. it's a sign of how in white house is approaching this as some coined kind of pr stunt? kind of effort to turn this around from a political perspective. and w

this is not true. >> look at all the masks. they keep saying nobody wears masks. wear the masks. then they come out with things today. did you see at cdc, that 85% of the people wearing the mask catch it? okay. >> that is not true in any way. 85% of people wearing masks do not catch t there's no study that suggests that at all. i asked the white house what he was talking about. they referred me to a cdc study of people who had coronavirus, a high percentage of them claimed that they had worn masks, but that's not the fact of the matter in terms of how they got the virus. more than 40% of those individuals had also had close contact with somebody who had covid, mostly family members. a great number of them had eaten at restaurants. the report was trying to find out how these people who claim they wore masks got the virus. but president trump continues to misrepresent facts instead of facing the reality. the president also now dismissing dr. anthony fauci as a, quote, democrat. everybody knows that. that's not true. there's no evidence that fauci is a democrat. he's not registered

trump: i don't wear masks like him. he could be speaking to hundred feet away and he shows up with the biggest mask i have ever seen. amy: for months, president trump has downplayed the severity of the pandemic which has killed over 206,000 americans. prpres. trump: i think it is unr control. dying0 americans are today. pres. trumump: that is true. it is what it is. but that d doesn't m mean we a e doing everything we can. it i is under control as much as you can control it. this is a horrible plague that beset us. amy: we will speak to two leading doctors and look at how the news could reshape the presidential race. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy nowow!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman. president donald trump has announced he and first lady melania trump have covid-19, joining 7.3 million people across the united states who've tested positive for the novel coronavirus since the first recorded u.s. case in january. just before 1:00 a.m. friday, trump tweeted -- "tonight, @flo

increase usage of masks. you see in arkansas, in compliance with the mask mandate that we have in place. >> brennan: you are a republican governor, and you're calling for more mask-wearing. our cbs polling shows that in virtually every state, when the question is asked, likely voters tell us the trump administration's efforts have hurt more than helped state's covid response is. the fact that the president doesn't wear a mask and endorse it, even though he says he is okay with it, does that hurt your ability to persuade your constituents to do what ou are telling is best for them? >> governor: well, it makes it confusing. he has made it very clear that wearing a mask is important. i saw him wearing a mask going into the polls yesterday. but obviously with the rallies, there is confusing messages there. the president and leaders in crisis always need to do two things: one is to be truthful and realistic. and everyone knows we're going through a very difficult crisis, and it is going to likely get worse as we g

as far as the masks are concerned, i'm good with masks, i tell people to wear masks. but the other day, they came out with a statement that 85% of the people catch it. >> they didn't say that. i know that study -- >> that's what i heard and that's what i saw. >> the president is wrong there. not true, not even close. this is what joe biden said about masks. >> the words of a president matter. >> absolutely. >> no matter whether they're good, bad, or indifferent, they matter. and when a president doesn't wear a mask or makes fun of folks like me when i was wearing a mask for a long time, then people say, well, it mustn't be that important. >> president trump also admitted last night that he may not have taken coronavirus test before his debate with joe biden, though his campaign had vowed that he had. president trump also seems to like what he says he knows of qanon. that's a fringe conspiracy network that the fbi labels a domestic terror threat. joining us now, cnn white house correspondent kaitlan collins and cnn political analyst, maggie haberman, a white house corr

a lot of masks. she wears masks a lot. she tested positive. i just went out with a test. we spend after lot of time -- the first lady went with a test also. it's hard. when you're with soldiers, airmen, marines and police officers -- i'm with them so much, and when they come over to you, it's hard to say stay back, you know? it's a tough kind of situation. it's a terrible thing. so i just went for a test, and we'll see what happens. who knows? but you know hope very well. she's fantastic and she's done a great job. but it's very, very hard when you are with people from the military or from law enforcement and they come over to you and they -- they want to hug you and they want to kiss you because we really have done a good job for them. things happen. i was surprised to hear with hope, but she's a warm person with them. but she knows there's a risk. but she's young. i just went out for a test. they just do it. it will come back later i guess, and the first lady also. because we spend a lot of time with hope and others. we'll see what happens. i'll get my test back tomorro

>> there's generally three levels of masks and the best mask is a n95 mask and you want to make sureou do not have a two-way valve. if so you can breathe the sum of the industrial n9 n95 masks read the virus out. it's not designed to filter what you breathe out but the n95 with the one-way valve is the most effective in the next is a surgical mask and we commonly refer to the benchmark of a level three surgical mask ends of the least effective is legal light cloth and you see those with something like a gator. >> ashley: writes. as far as the rallies that have been held outside. it is there anything for people to worry about he's been doing too rallies a night. obviously, they are socially distant from the president but there's always when someone especially high profile as of the president comes down with this, people have got to wonder if they have anything to be worried about. >> generally speaking, there is a study in asia about 3 33 outbreaks and to potentially involve the some outdoor setting. we know by and large that super spending events and outbreaks are driven by indoor ac

it's not only wearing masks. it's an issue of other countermeasures and particularly social contact. this is the reason why the situation is still not under control. >> i think that one of the main causes is really populism. during the first wave, they were convinced that people want masks, so they push masks. now they were convinced people don't want to wear masks, so they are against. >> and one czech scientist that i spoke to said that despite the success of that mandatory mask man daut, czechs really hate wearing them. they don't the same kind of mask wearing culture some other asian countries do. a lot of people turned out but there was no social distancing and few masks in sight. and with the hospitals nearing their capacities, the czech medical chamber and now also the czech health minister, they're calling on czech doctors abroad to m coback to the country to help deal with the growing number of patients. >> it is a concern. and people may hate wearing masks action but they work. we see it, the scientific

the mask on. you know, this is something that we have been dealing with not only in ohio but in this country is that we have people who don't think they should be wearing a mask and what we tried to talk to everyone about is that if you do wear a mask, you're going to cut down the spread and you're doing it for other people, so we will continue -- jake, we are going to message this and talk about this because we know it does, in fact, make a huge, huge difference. >> it's not just the people -- >> go ahead. >> it's not just people aren't wearing masks. the president has been leading the charge mocking people who wear masks and in fact, your own lieutenant governor encouraging individuals -- again, you have been responsible. your administration in ohio has been responsible but the crowd openly booed your own lieutenant governor when he tried to encourage them to wear a mask. take a listen. >> look, that was -- >> hang on! hang on! just listen up! just listen up! all right! i get it! you can at leas

masks are not good. then he changed his mind and said masks are good. i am ok with masks.ost: that is from the debate on tuesday night. clay, independent color, hello. caller: i am glad i got on at that time. that daily beast article that you read, if you read the next would have said donald trump did not wear a mask at his golf course fundraiser last night which he always seems to be on. he did not wear one last night, waiting for the results of his test because hope hicks got the virus. he did not have one on when he came back from the fundraiser to the white house. obviously is not taking this seriously. host: that was clay. in floor, republican all. hey, donna. caller: thank you for having me. presidentke to wish trump and the first lady a speedy recovery. and about the mask. [laughter] i think we should all be responsible for ourselves and to for blaming the president our sicknesses and us not wearing our own mask. i believe that everybody around the president should have our mask on. he is the president of the united states. you should have a little respect. a lot of

even the experts are talked about, when we talk about masks, if masks is the answer and man adapt i masks is the answer, can we put students back in schools? >> should americans following cdc guidelines? >> will they be safe? and the answer was no. >> should americans follow cdc guidelines? >> so certainly americans should following cdc guidelines. >> they should? does that include the president. >> that includes the president and includes everyone, but there are special -- >> why don't your supporters wear masks at rallies? why don't you require supporters to wear masks? >> we offer them out -- we live in a free society, jake. when you look at that, you know, under a joe biden's america, he would lock everything down. >> that's not true. >> how do you know that? have you asked him that question? ask him that question. >> because i've seen a million interviews with him. >> he doesn't do -- you are talking about hypotheticals. >> i've interviewed biden more than trump, i'll get that. >> okay. we can get into that. in terms of interviews most journalists would agree that joe biden has large

masks, then it switched to the public should wear masks. there was nothing opportunity for public health to say here is what we learned, here is why there has been a change in guidance come and this is why it is so critically important for everyone to wear masks. host: allen joins us from hawaii. good morning. you are next up for the doctor. go ahead. caller: thank you for letting me speak with you, doctor. before, with an professor at ucs, dr. monica gandhi, who has written a minute -- a letter and done work on the reasoning behind masks actually being utilized, lowering the inoculum, the dosage. a recent article in the new andand journal of medicine what they call a form of viral and. i see dr. redfield had kind of been alluded to that and when in front of congress. did not go into much detail. i would also like to know about what you think about moving forward in the way that we have to deal with it going up as far as other screening measures, other than using pcr and antigen test's, if you think that something like breathalyzers in sali

masks are safer than no masks.ally like either indoors with masks on everyone and distance if possible or outdoors ideally with masks but less important to have masks outdoors. i think the bigger challenge here is really the understanding that they failed to stop a cluster at the white house and we're failing to stop clusters all over the country. the same day the president became infected about 200,000 other americans became infected and about a thousand of them will die from this. each day we're seeing around a thousand deaths in the u.s. and that is a preventable and shocking tragedy. >> yeah, yeah. dr. tom freedman, appreciate it as always. >>> just ahead. go to capitol hill, the effects of the coronavirus on the hearings for supreme court justice nominee amy coney barrett. (coughing) hi susan! honey? yeah? i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this new robitussin honey severe. the real honey you love... plus, the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? new robitussin

has been supportive of wearing masks and he has worn a mask himself and has been seen wearing masks. it is important to remember that people around him have been taking precautions and we all need to do that with anybody who may be at risk. the best quality mask is an and 95 mass, 95% effective in reducing virus transmission. the next layer is a surgical mask, the level of research, 50% or 60%. that cloth mask is 30 percent-15% effective. the least effective being the loose cloth or those gator masks. jillian: thank you for joining us, appreciate it. i want to bring in griff jenkins. you couldn't think the news could get bigger than something else happens. >> reporter: this will be a day remembered in history for a long time in washington, you don't see things like this so close to an election, 32 days and coming with the backdrop of the president's response to the pandemic which many critics pointed out they thought lacked certain protocols and safety measures and experts have been talking about, the response from the coronavirus task force, the president and first lady will go into

wear a mask. i don't wear a mask like him. every time you see him, he's wearing a mask. he could be speaking 200 feet away and he shows up with the biggest mask i've ever seen. >> on thursday, the president attended a multimillion dollar fund-raiser at his golf club, even after the white house learned of hope hicks' positive diagnosis before he took off. >> it was safe for the president to go. he socially distanced. it was an outdoor event and deemed safe. >> already on the campaign trail, biden, who says he had two negative tests on friday is suspending negative tv advertising for now but sending a pointed message. >> it's not going away automatically. we have to do our part to be responsible. it means following the science. it means having masking mandates nationwide. >> and joining me now is trump campaign senior adviser jason miller.

how do the authors describe widespread mask use?, jake, this is a group out of the university of washington that has been doing much of the modelling we've been talking about. they're modelling using statistics, what would happen if. and here's what they came up with. they said if everyone always wore a mask in public, or most people, this is what would happen. right now about 49%, about half of americans report always wearing masks in public. if we could get that 49% number up to 85%, we could save 95,000 lives from late september looking forward until the end of february. if we could get that number up to 95%, we could save more than 129,000 lives. it is so unclear why anyone, including the president, keeps dissing masks. it doesn't make sense, they save lives. this study, this modelling shows it. other kinds of studies have shown it and there is no downside to masks. jake? >> what sdoes the study say abot the need for further lockdowns. >> it's interesting, they said if we could get the number of lockdowns up, we could get cases

we literally wear masks everywhere. >> this is my mask! >> where is mine? here is mine. literally we are always doing this when we walk down the street. i don't even understand it! >> it's stunning that he thinks it's stunning that there is a process in place in office spaces that includes wearing masks all the time when you're out in the hallway. our hallways here at cnn, we all know this, are fairly empty. everyone is essentially working from home at this point. people's lives have changed and i wear a mask every time i go outside of my house and i'm sure you do too, to keep myself safe and keep my family safe and keep other people safe. this idea is stunned, oh, my god! people wear masks all the time is an indictment of what has gone on at that white house and it explains why they had that first outbreak with the president and why they had the second outbreak with pence. i think we can suspect that with these superspreader events they are holding around the country there are likely outbreaks to those events well and well see how that goes. a lot of reporting and track

i'm not going to talk through the mask. >> i'm not going to talk through a mask. you poor guy, what a burden to talk through a mask. man. i understand where you're coming from. it's not like millions have been doing this for months so that more people don't die. but i understand. that attitude is no surprise coming from someone working for a man who made a point of removing his mask while still infected with covid and then returning to the white house. in ohio joe biden said the preside president's approach to the virus is somehow only getting worse. >> his reckless personal conduct since his diagnosis has been unconscionable. the longer donald trump is president the more reckless he seems to get. >> it is why we are now in the third wave of coronavirus. it is why we have one of the highest death tolls per capita of rich countries. it is why cases continue to spike. look at that. you can see the line of the pink chart climbing. nearly 50,000 new case as day. next to it, more worrying, hospitalizations in the blue chart and that's ticking up again. 35,000 americans

i don't wear masks like him. every time you see him, he's got a mask. he could be speaking 200 feet away from them and shows up with the biggest mask i've ever seen. >> to an extent, that's how we got here. the amount of contact tracing that has to happen now and the level of government that we're talking about here will almost blow your minds. the supreme court nominee amy coney barrett has been working out of the white house. she was there yesterday. she has been meeting with officials and then going to the senate. so think about all of that contact tracing there. steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary met with the president wednesday morning and was on capitol hill meeting with nancy pelosi wednesday afternoon. nancy pelosi is next in line after the vice president. so again, you are top the top strata of u.s. government here. if you contact trace, you know, if you think everyone is going to need to quarantine, this is going to be everybody, sanjay. >> yeah, and that's what the cdc guidelines sort of recommend. i went over this again this morning and w

he's got a mask on. that's the largest mask i think i've ever seen. so i don't know if you can hear him. >> that's the president, today, mocking a reporter, jeff mason, for wearing a mask, indoors, in the oval office. not a big space. surrounded by people, not wearing masks, all of whom, work for the president. and they all know the president doesn't like mask wearing. not wearing a mask, himself, and he makes fun of someone who is. if he were the ceo of a public company, mocking someone in the company for wearing a mask, pressuring everyone around him not to wear one, he would be removed as ceo. there would be lawsuits by employees, hr complaints. he wouldn't last long, at all, as ceo. but this president. he isn't a ceo. i mean, i know he has a company or had a company but he's not really a ceo. he is the president and he is donald trump. if only he would wear a mask, and encourage all of us to wear them as well. this is a president who said, last night, if only briefly, before -- before quickly shifting the blame elsewhere that, yes, he does take re

a mask. >> these face masks are the most important powerful public health tool we have. we have clear scientific evidence they work and they are our best defense. i might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take a vaccine. >> instead, as more than 200,000 americans have died, the president said that his experts were wrong. and he not only refused to embrace face coverings, but he questioned the necessity of them. >> i think wearing a face mask as a great president, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i don't know, somehow i don't see it for myself. >> i don't agree with the statement that if everybody wears a mask, everything disappears. >> by the way, a lot of people don't want to wear masks. there are a lot of people who think that masks are not good. >> your second question was -- can you take it off, because i cannot hear you. >> i'll just speak louder, sir. >> you want to be politically correct. when needed, i wea

trump's refusal to wear a mask is about image. >> he hasn't worn masks consistently. he has pushed back against thinks you said. >> i think that's less an antihigh temperature scienant anti-statement, it's more of a statement. >> what kind of statement. >> we don't need a mask, that kind of thing. he equates wearing a mask with weakness. >> does that make sense to you? >> no, it doesn't, of course not. >> the mixed messaging doesn't stop there. on sunday, twitter deleted a tweet from white house coronavirus adviser scott atlas that led masks work, no. twitter called it misinformation. the u.s. healthy secretary was asked about the contradictions. >> we have it in our individual control, it's our ticket, to be reconnected to education, worship, to work, to health care and to our public and civic life, chuck, where a face covering when you can't be socially distant, chuck? >> why is that message so difficult for the president? >> i think it's a difficult message for all western democracies, we're seeing that in europe. people are tired. the american people have given so

why don't you require supporters to wear masks at rallies? >> we don't mandate masks.e offer them out. we live in a free society, jake. when you look at that, under a joe biden's america, he would lock everything down. >> that's not true. >> how do you know that? have you asked him that question? ask him that question, jake. >> he has a million interviews -- we are not not talking about a hypothetical. >> well, you have. >> i've interviewed trump we don't have to get into that. >> we can get into that. in terms of interviews i think most journalists would agree joe biden has largely be unavailable and to run out the clock so that the american people will not -- >> the american people should abide by cdc guidelines? you're not even asking your supporteders to wear masks. >> we pass them out, jake. >> do you know how many people in minnesota have gotten a virus because of a trump r5ally? >> you come to a r5e8 wially wi. you give out masks. >> they are not wearing them. there is literally not one person in the studio. >> you're saying you always wear a mask wherever you g

and it was never masks or jobs, masks or school, it was masks for jobs, masks for school by wearing aou could actually do these things because it's been proving all over the world. i was looking up statistics before i came on. in the last two weeks, there have been 14 cases of coronavirus tested in taijuan. probably 14 people in the white house today that have it. that's because taijuan has this mask policy. you know, it's -- we don't wear masks, anderson, just to protect ourselves. we wear masks to protect our neighbors. we wear masks to protect our co-workers. we wear masks to protect the secret service. we wear masks to protect the police. we wear masks to protect our fellow americans. we don't just wear them for ourselves. you look at the picture and i promise you, anderson, it will be an iconic picture of the entire trump clan at that debate sitting around unmasked when possibly their father was actually carrying the coronavirus. it is such a profound act. not just of recklessness but such disrespect to their fellow americans. i pray he gets well because nothing could heal the co

. >> let me ask -- >> i don't wear masks like him, every time you see him he's got a mask. he could be speaking 200 feet away, and he shows up with the biggest mask i've ever seen. >> he could be 200 feet away and he shows up with the biggest mask i've ever seen. joe biden has responded to the president's diagnosis tweeting, quote, jill and i send our thoughts to president trump and first lady melania trump for a swift recovery. we will continue to pray for the health and safety of the president and his family. biden followed up a short time later, quote, i'm happy to report that jill and i have tested negative for covid. thank you to everyone for your messages of concern. i hope this serves as a reminder, wear a mask, keep social distance and wash your hands. biden expanded on his thoughts at a campaign stop in michigan. >> look, let's -- i'd like to start by acknowledging, which i'm sure all of you do as well, sending my prayers for the health and safety of the first lady and president -- the president of the united states after they tested positive for covid-19. my wife

mask off. i mean, he literally has been with an infected -- you know, according to his own words, deathly ill president in the last week. >> yeah. i mean, all i can do is shake my head at this. we've all become accustomed to wearing masks, to trying to hear a person and listen to a person who is speaking through a mask. we can do it. it happens. so this idea that he just can't bother to speak through a mask, i mean, it's ridiculous. again, i think jackie is exactly right. this is all about loyalty to the president. are you with him or against him? if you're with him, you've got to go without a mask and show your loyalty to him, show that you're with his supporters as well, and it has had terrible consequences for this president, for folks in that white house as well, and reporters as well. that's why you hear those reporters saying, no, no, no, no, please, sir, put your mask on. but he can't be boathered to pu a simple piece of cloth around his face. >> in arkansas, they have a mask mandate. th

there is stephen miller, no mask. there is jared kushner not wearing a mask. and everyone in close contact. so, it's interesting because he is saying that she's, you know, in contact with people in the military. they want to hug her and so on and so forth. that sort of behave -- behavior should be discouraged by the president, the administration. that goes against their own guidelines of what people should be doing at the moment. she is traveling with the president. she traveled with him as recently as yesterday. go through this timeline with us, kaitlan. >> reporter: but also, the other result or the other guidance that you get from the president's only medical experts is that if you come in close contact with someone who has tested positive, you should quarantine. the president has clearly come into close contact with hope hicks because they got on that helicopter. it's a very small helicopter and they all rode together. >> shouldn't jared kushner, shouldn't stephen miller, shouldn't they be quarantining at well? >> reporter: yeah, we're still trying to repo

he said wear a mask. he was wrong. i want to be clear, when you talk about people being cavalier about being infected or infecting othering and not wearing masks and not admitting they were wrong, well, that's trump, right? he's just come out here with a statement and said the exact opposite of the president. >> yeah. i mean, it's pretty clear, you know, he talked about that meeting at the white house, there was a likelihood of spread. obvious hill we knew there was a lot of viral spread at the white house around that time. those two things that struck me, i'm sure that struck jonathan as well. first of all, apparently it takes people getting really sick and having a firsthand confrontation with this virus sometimes to say what many people we've been saying for months now, and this is not a virus you want, it can cause all these ramifications. we know how many people have already died. but that seems to be the situation sometimes. people have to be confronted with their own mortality in some ways to take this seriously

president, not wearing a mask. doesn't appear, from this angle, that he is socially distancing from the member of the military. again, this was at joint base andrews, yesterday, after he was -- when he was on his way. so, this is the president walking across the tarmac getting onto air force one. boarding the steps. and we are doing this to show you just a timeline of what happened. this was just yesterday. it is believed that hope hicks could have been contagious, and probably was, a few days before becoming ill or showing symptoms of the virus, at least, three days. maybe, even longer. okay. so the president gets aboard air force one. and then, you have -- there is stephen miller. dan scavino. jared kushner. and hope hicks. leaving marine one at joint base andrews and, now, boarding air force one. again, in close contact with each other and the leader of the free world, the president of the united states. so, they will board. and then, after they fly to duluth, we'll show the president, in just moments, arriving

all the tough guys say, "i'm not wearing a mask, i'm not afraid".l, be afraid for your husband, your wife. —— i view. the british government says an investigation has begun into why nearly 16,000 coronavirus cases went unreported last week. stairway t0 heaven plays all our own work — the rock band led zeppelin win their copyright battle over accusations they plagiarised the opening of their iconic track, "stairway to heaven." in a highly choreographed departure president trump left the walter reed military hospital in washington where he was being treated for coronavirus and has returned to the white house. wearing a mask, he walked unaided down the hospital steps before boarding the presidential helicopter for the short flight home. moments after returning to the white house, donald trump climbed the stairs to the balcony, took off his mask and posed for photographs. he appeared to downplay his infection, posting the words "don't be afraid of covid. don't let it dominate your life", a message repeated in a video released shortly after. ijust left w

we should all be wearing masks.s may stay in the air long er. those are high risk et settings you know, at the top levels of the government, you would think ou fwo e leer the recommendatio event resulted in at least nine people testing positive, and most of it was outdoors. how did that become a super spreader when much was outside? >> outdoor is safer, but they are not totally safe. if you are close to people, and if you are hugging people and kissing people, you don't know where the people have been and whether they could be infected. you never know the risk that you are going to be around. so, wearing masks helps protect not just you, but those around you. >> let's talk about the president's treatments that we have been learning about. he was approved for compassionate care for a new drug, regeneron, and when will l the average american have access to that. >> he have a wide range of drugs. the big disparities in terms of health care, there was people without any health insurance. and you have to think of what ki

he wore a mask, they wore n95 masks. by all of them wearing n95 masks, you couldn't tell exactly from the pictures but that's what you would expect would happen, that makes the risk very, very small. is there an increased risk? maybe tiny. but they took measures to reduce the risk and that's what it's all about is risk management, risk reduction. >> you've got to also wonder about the president's health and whether this was in his best interest. the president said in this video it's been an interesting journey, almost like it's over. doctor, based on what we learned from his medical team today about his oxygen saturation levels having dropped at least a couple of times below 94% saturation, and also the fact he needed supplemental oxygen, he had a high fever on friday. he's on some very serious treatments, including an experiment alt treatment that hasn't been cleared for emergency operation use, the fact eagles had remdesivir and continue those treatments. he's had two and we're executiving a five-day treatment accordin

but i wear our masks when needed. like him.ear masks every time you see him he has a mask. every time you see him, he's got a mask. he could be speaking 200 feet away and he shows up with the biggest mask i've ever seen. chris: vice president biden, go ahead, sir. vice pres. biden: look, the way to open businesses is to give them the wherewithal to be able to open. we provided money -- chris: i was asking about masks. vice pres. biden: masks make a big difference. his own head of the cdc said if we wore a mask between now and social distancing between now and january, we would probably save up to 100,000 lives. it matters. pres. trump: they have also said the opposite. they have also said the opposite. vice pres. biden: no serious person said the opposite. no serious person. pres. trump: dr. fauci said the opposite. vice pres. biden: he did not say the opposite. pres. trump: he said masks are not good, then he changed his mind. i'm ok with masks. chris: i want to ask about one last subject. your different approaches have even affected the way you have campaigned. president

and almost none of them were wearing masks. at one point somebody from the cleveland clinic had to come in and hand out masks to the president's family and supporters. it's almost as a badge of honor that the president and his senior staff have almost never been seen wearing masks. i mean only a handful of times have we seen the president himself wearing a mask let alone his top advisers. this is -- i go to the white house quite frequently. there are signs as you enter the white house complex that say, maintain social distancing, six feet apart. you go inside that white house complex and as a matter of course, you know, the press, you know maintains social distance and wears mavenlgs but do not see the same thing happening by and large for the senior staff in the west wing. this is a white house that has done -- tried to send out a message to the american public that this thing is over. meaning the pandemic is over and now we see dramatically in this statement from the white house that that is obviously not true. >> jonathan ka

a mask.hen appropriate, social distance. all those things are good to mitigate. katty: you know i am asking you this. in the last presidential debate, we saw the president making fun of joe biden for wearing a mask. last night, as soon as you go back to the white house, the first thing he did was take his mask determinedly off. is he now going to say exactly what you just said? it's a good idea for people to wear masks and social distance? >> it'almost comical. first of all, your reporter, i don't know what he was watching in the lead upo this segment, but to say the president was gasping for breath, that's just fake news. i urge your viewers, go back and watch. the president wasn't gasping for breath. that's a lie and you guys should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. that is not an objective statement. that's a subjective statement totally false. president removed his mask and is at home. he was almost a football field away from the press. there's a time to wear a time. joe biden has f

do mask mandates work? what did you find? >> we did find that it helps the countries where a government recommended that the public wear masks within 20 days of the on set of their outbreak. 1.5 million whereas the countries that didn't recommend masks had a mortality over 200 per million on average such as the united states which was at 240 per million. so, i think a mandate from the government, whether it's nationally or whether you did it by 50 states each making their own mandate, either way it's the government communicating to people how important it is to really wear their mask. and i think it can help lower both infection and mortality. >> all right. so, some might hear this and wonder, okay, maybe your study didn't control for certain variables. maybe it was an outlier. but there have been several other studies done as well, some comparing different countries, others comparing different states and when they introduced mask mandates. so, let's say we were to throw out your study. would your conclusion still stand? >> i

, did not wear a mask, returned and did not wear a mask all after learning that hope hicks had tested positive for the virus. in addition, the president had been around hope hicks during all of that time the cdc guidelines would say that if you are around someone who has tested positive, that you should -- the guidelines are clear that you should isolate for a period of days before you receive multiple coronavirus tests that are negative. instead, it is our reporting that the president went to bedminster, attended the fundraiser, greeted those who were participating in the fundraiser, and did -- here is some pictures from washington yesterday and was not waearing a mask along the way there is an attempt to get a list of people who were at the bedminster event because the most important thing for the scientists right now, if someone has been in a crowded place without protection and without social distancing, who tested positive or around someone who tested positive, contact tracing is the most important thing to do so that it doesn't ripple like a rocket that you throw in the water an