massee: they are. they are. host: let's start with mckinley. what do you want people to know about him since you have studied his legacy and his life? massee: everybody remembers he was assassinated in buffalo, but the most important thing, and robert mary's book is brought that to light, is how powerful an impact his presidency gave the country, because we had industrial revolution, expansion around the world, tremendous growth. and i think a lot of times, sadly enough, both grover cleveland and william mckinley are often forgotten. but through books that are written about both, and especially mckinley, and you remember karl rove's book about we mckinley, i think he is revered but in times past he has ften been forgotten. and my hope is that through the course of time and the great efforts of the white house historical society which jacqueline kennedy founded in 1961, through those efforts with education, preservation and legacy, learning about those presidents, they will certainly be remembered. and i'm trying very hard to do that. host: we vi

next we interview massee mckinley, a descendent of grover cleveland and president mckinley. host: you are here because you work with the organization but also because you are the descendent of two presidents. massee: on my maternal side am related to grover cleveland, and

. >> now, how many times do you introduce yourself and say i am massee mckinley, what percentage of people ask if you are related to the president? >> all the time. all the time. >> have you thought about putting cleveland in the middle of your name? >> no, i think i should, because a lot of people loved grover cleveland. >> where they related themselves? >> they were not related. my parents married and that is the relationship. the wonderful thing is, grover cleveland actually attended william mckinley's inauguration, which i think is pretty special. >> okay, susan ford bales, your mother was first lady. she had breast cancer. in those days, people in mixed society never mentioned the phrase breast cancer and people didn't talk about it much. what was the thinking she had about saying what the operation was going to be and did she have any hesitancy about it? did it change your life, being an advocate for breast cancer detection? >> first of all, we are talking about 1974 and we had only been in the white house for about six weeks when mother went into the naval hospital for her physical,