he's saying he has the math but is this real math or math to make the trump people feel better about where they stand sp. >> andy's a good man.

advanced math. she had maybe not done well on the test or there was some concern about her tracking. but you realized, in the course of tutoring her, she was actually able to handle pretty complex concepts. >> well, this is the thing, they were visiting me in boston -- >> yeah. >> and i had just gotten married, so it was right after my wedding, they were just kind of hanging out in boston with us. and she's a super bright young woman. >> right. >> but, you know, just when we talk about politics or anything, she was really sharp and it just came out of conversation that she had taken a placement exam at the end of sixth grade, and that's when start to really start to track students. >> right. >> and she bombed it. and when i asked her what happened, she said well it has all this unit conversion, i just don't get it, my brain's not -- >> right, so unit conversion you mean like converting cups into quarts or quarts into pints. >> yeah, and miles to kilometers, all of this kind of stuff. like i know tha

the sanders campaign don't like this math.cretary clinton as lisa mentioned, she has a lot of superdelegates. they'rely 500 in her back pocket. 486. unless a bunch of them, dozens and more of them split and run, she would have enough. she really only needs about 37% of the rest of the pledged delegates as long as she doesn't lose these 486. that would get her over the finish line. so the clinton campaign says talk of a contested democratic convention is just that, talk. but listen to secretary clinton here when she talks publicly now and criticizes senator sanders' independent past, one of the reasons she's doing it is to keep these people, the superdelegates, in the fold. >> you know, i have been campaigning for democrats, fund-raising for democrats, recruiting democrats to run and win for a really long time. i think about 40 years. and senator sanders, by his own admission, has never been been a democrat. >> not subtle. >> no. not subtle at all. and i think this is -- gets back to what lisa was talking about, which is hillar

the math is the math.ny math they can somehow get to 1400 delegates and try to get you guys to put that on television. that math just doesn't work. it's very very fuzzy math like saying 2 plus 2 equals 1400. it just doesn't. >> let's look at the calendar, this is all laid out for us, the northeast primaries on the 26th and go to indiana may the 3rd. is that where you're placing your bets to try to cut off any momentum from donald trump after next thursday? >> the media wants to focus on state wins. we're looking next week at opportunities in several different states. >> where are you spending your money? >> in maryland we're looking at opportunities congressional districts places we can pick up delegates. certainly, indiana is a place there are congressional districts across the state provide opportunities for us. that will be a big focus of our efforts. of course, the big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is california. there's so many opportunities in california that i couldn't even possibly list the

the first math is she's going to end the night tonight.is our ballpark we haven't completed allocating all the delegates yet. but our ballpark is she's going to end the night, 295 lead among just pledged delegates. not only that, she wins four of the five states tonight, starts to add more clinton blue to the map, including a big industrial state like pennsylvania. a big important democratic state with a diverse electorate like maryland. so she wins big in these states. she stretches this out to 295. but inside the sanders campaign, they don't like to talk about the super delegates because they say they don't vote until the convention. they can change their mind. but they're also well aware that after a night like this, those super delegates are unlikely to change their mind. so 295 just in blejed delegates, when you had in the super delegates, hillary clinton has 502 super delegates who have pledged publicly their support to her. sanders has just 42. when you add those in, it becomes a 755-delegate lead when you factor them in. if you loo

let's look at the math. donald trump's number, we have it at 740, that's because wisconsin we haven't officially sorted out yet. cruz campaign deciding whether to contest wisconsin -- missouri, i'm sorry. missouri. donald trump is about to pick up, probably has a few more than we give him. let's give him those. if trump can do this, win statewide, win most of the congressional districts, the stop-trump movement, wolf, after spending so much time, so much money in this one standalone state tonight, what a message that would send if donald trump could surprise us tonight and win wisconsin. most people expect ted cruz will win tonight. under this scenario, we give him 36. say donald trump wins two congressional districts, who in the northern part of the state where he might have good chances. stay it turns out to be something like this. then you're still looking -- ted cruz hasn't done all that much with the math here but he would have momentum. see donald trump winning here, donald trump winning here, donald t

math.he math is what it is at this point. it could change. but the math right now is her very best friend. >> it is her friend. i ran the numbers the other day. if he won every contest from here on out 55-45 she would still lead in the delegates. she wouldn't clinch but still lead in the delegates. >>> republicans' growing alarm to what could happen to the rest of their candidates is donald trump's name is at the top of the ballot in november. you can stream it all. like that anthony michael hall movie where he fights with the girl. the one where he gets rejected by the girl. even stream the one where he creates the girl. with unlimited data, you can stream all the anthony michael hall movies you want. i wonder what he's up to these days maybe he's shopping in an at&t store? get unlimited data and your fourth line free when you have at&t wireless and directv. plus, get up to $650 in credits to help you switch. whyto learn, right?e? so you can get a good job and you're not working for peanut

that frankly, math and science are really part of every subject.hools more and more thinking about how to integrate a variety of subjects so that children see the application of those concepts in everything that they do. >> yeah, and just thinking as you're talking about whether you need science, technology, engineering and math, or some concept of those subjects for whatever you choose to do in life. whether you do want to be an artist or a singer, a lawyer. you still need to have some that background. >> if you think about how we live today, we all have two or three devices, almost no matter how old you are, you've got some piece of technology that gives you access to information that helps you be able to create things. so technology is in everything that we do. >> and there's a whole lot of that planned for for the festival. tell us about some of the performers that you'll have there. >> yeah, so we try and approach inspiring kids in a lot of different directions, and one of them is by creating persons, places, and things for them to see. you kn

the delegate math could be different than the final vote math, but to jeb's point, let's come over and switch this to the democratic race. this starts to get hard. then the question is she believes she's going to have a very strong night next tuesday and in scenario, we give bernie sanders rhode island. the clinton campaign thinks they can win connecticut, pennsylvania, maryland, and delaware, and if you're out to an area now, remember, 225 to start the night, 229, they think they can be out in the 280 area by the end of the night tomorrow. and then, if you project this out. if you have if clinton scenario where bernie sanders wins west virginia, hillary clinton thinks she can win out here, she gets out to california, there is a scenario, 55/45, i just projected the rest of the contest, giving christian ton some and sanders some, even at 55/45, here is the question of the democratic party. the magic number, will she get there with pledged delegates? unlikely. unless she wins states now, by big margin, 65/35, no question have a lead, the math for sanders to catch up because of the rules

you look at the math and almost point to them. so assuming trump does well in the northeast, this race is going to come down to two states. indiana and california. those are the states to watch that will decide this. >> his political argument about fairness is proponents call it whining. he knows what he's doing. he's trying to create an environment where it's impossible to get away. he expects to win big tomorrow. if cruz can't compete, donald trump wants you to end the month looking at the math. but i'm winning across the country. i'm winning in a lot of places. i have momentum now. how can you take this away from me. >> ted cruz campaigned in new york, but right now he's in maryland. he's been out of new york an awful lot. what does that tell you? >> he's doing his best to get as many delegates in the places he can. they realize new york is not going to be their state. surrogates keep pointing to the 50% number. it's interesting that he needs to get o over 50% to get the maximum amount of delegates. he needs the 1237 to get the

that's a lot of math and you put all that math in a bag and put it over your shoulder and go to clevelandohio and what do you do with it at the other end and what does the republican party and the convention do about the competing interests? two gentlemen have joined our panel who would like to weigh in. lawrence o'donnell, you know him, you love him as a member of our own msnbc family of full service show hosts and ben ginsberg. former general counsel of the republican party and counsel to more than one presidential effort and as they said about edward bennett williams, in this area of law he is the man to see. so, what do you make of this math arriving in cleveland with this many candidates and this many republicans who fear there should be a better way? >> we've never been here before. and what it puts such a premium on is the delegate select process. steve ran through the math on how people will amass delegates for the first ballot but you don't know who those delegates are and you don't know how they're going to vote until they start voting. for example, the rule says you have to hav

he's saying he has the math but is this real math or math to make the trump people feel better about they stand sp. >> andy's a good man. i haven't heard numbers anything like that. the poll numbers would all have to be wrong in these states. he would have to have essentially ted cruz decide maybe to drop out. for donald trump to have a 70% likelihood of winning on the first ballot, that would require him to run the stable across the board. in some states where he has a pretty good shot of doing very well, new york is one of them and new jersey and other places on the eastern sea board but once you get to nebraska and oregon, these are places where ted cruz is going to do very well. >> we don't disagree. one second. just take a step back and look at the math. there have been about 1,500 delegates that have been given out so far. this is approximate stuff. i don't want to blog tomorrow saying andy's off by three delegates. did about 1,500 delegates. donald trump has won about half. he had a field of 10 people and now it's 3 people. if he can win 50% of the delegates with so many peopl

. >> math.rift me tick. >> this race is over. barring the fbi or justice department indicting hillary clinton. i can't find a way that she doesn't get there. unless she gets the lead from a lot of super delegates, and they're not going to do that. i think it comes down to california. the question has been raised, will bernie sanders supporters support hillary clinton. my guess is that instinctively they don't want to. but one thing will make them do that, and that's donald trump. >> i happen to disagree with that. you know from history democrats don't turn out in opposition. republicans do. also, he has this group of disenfranchised, independent voters, newly registered voters, and a lot of them are unifying against one issue, the root cause of the black lives matter movement. hillary clinton is emblematic of the problem. while i'm a democrat and i'm part of the democratic world, a lot of these people are not. i really caution the democratic party from pooh-poohing the brns bernie sanders suppor

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they -- >> again it's math. it is math. the math shows she had more votes in 2008 than today.'t do that they still went and voted for obama. harris: the answer the question about the group meghan is talking about, the fact that last night bernie sanders still outplayed hillary clinton when it came to those voters who were young under the age of 25. how is she going to get them? she might need them? >> look what is got him. it got him, i don't know, he is 277 delegates behind her? these voters, hate to say this. math is king here. sandra: julie keeping on track with the math. >> that is all about the math that is the problem. >> i still think she has a huge problem -- sandra: we're watching fox exit polls, new math there, julie revealing new concerns on republican side. after donald trump's big win in new york last night and a top political analyst says the republican party has been put in a terrible situation. more on that next. plus president obama arriving in saudi arabia today amid plenty of tension as the state department comes out with the disturbing admission about iran.

that's a lot of math, and you put all that math in a bag and put it over your shoulder and you go to cleveland, ohio, and what do you do with it at the other end, and what does the republican party and the convention do about the competing interests? two gentlemen have joined our panel who would like to weigh in on this very much. lawrence o'donnell, you know him, you love him as a member of our own msnbc family of full service show hosts and ben ginsberg, former general counsel of the republican party and counsel to more than one gop presidential effort and as they used to say about the great edward bennett williams, in this area of law, he is the man to see. so, what do you make of this math arriving in cleveland with this many candidates and this many republicans who fear there should be a better way? >> we've never been here before. and what it puts such a premium on is the delegate selection process. steve ran through the math on how people will amass delegates for the first ballot, but you don't know who those delegates are, and you don't know how they're going to vote until th

right now we're dealing with cold, hard math. i know we don't want to be dealing with math at 4:00 in the morning, but hillary clinton is almost to the finish line. it's very hard to see -- i mean, look, it's effectively impossible for bernie sanders to do anything about it. his campaign has even acknowledged it. he's even acknowledged it in his statements, talking about how he's going to go to the convention. he's going to be pushing a progressive party platform. you look at ted cruz on the republican side, what path does he have? give him indiana, fine. trump is way up in california. if we look at tonight as any guide, he's going to win new jersey. again, where is that path? it doesn't seem to exist for cruz or sanders. >> brian stelter, all these players are still in the game. it's done. we now know what we think the general election is going to look like, but we have the same number of players today as yesterday. >> whether it's over or not is a political calculation, but the math is not. it is clear from the math where thing

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anything is possible, but the math is not on his side. the question that everyone is asking and how long does this go on and does this damage hillary clinton, who appears to be the likely nominee right now? >> well, in a campaign that's had a lot of ups and downs, i think the math has been on a continuum. i don't know that the math has ever changed for senator sanders, and it hasn't dissuaded the money that he's been able to receive in those $27 donations, nor the crowds that have come to hear him speak. but finally i think people are now, because we're in the home stretch, we're really entering the final chapter of the pre-convention phase. people are starting to say what's the end game, and my hunch is he's pretty much back to where he started. it's all about being a message campaign, not one that can win a nomination. >> totally agree. >> let's talk about donald trump last night, the republican side. listen to what he is looking ahead to to the general election. listen. >> a lot of people think i'll put states into play that will never

and if you look at the math, math isn't that complicated. the math is against senator sanders. it is basically mathematically impossible for him to get where he needs to go. >> let's turn to the republican side, we are going to go to secretary clinton shortly to hear her. caylee, donald trump, path forward after last night, you have to be confident? >> absolutely, when you connect pennsylvania, rhode island, he is leading in most states by 20 points, we could see a margin of victory translate into four to five states next week, this discussion of a second ballot, which by the way hasn't happened since 1948, discussion of second ballot and nomination being taken is all for nil, all academic. i think donald trump will win outright. >> tara, do you think he has a chance to get enough delegates before? >> it is possible but difficult. he needs to win 63% of delegates left on the table. he only won 48% until now. so that said, that's assuming we will give him next tuesday, baked into the cake. expect donald trump to do well there. when you get into the may contests, donald trump is

>> math or politics? the math is possible, the politics are less and less likely. but you know what, you get all those republicans in a big room in cleveland, anything is possible. >> well, let's turn to the democrats now, because bernie sanders says that he is pushing forward, claiming he can take the pledged delegate lead on june 7th. how does that math work? >> again, have to go back to maybe junior year in high school. it's getting harder and harder for bernie. you know, hillary i think really is uniting the democratic party. now, if only she could get the bernie supporters to come around. it's just looking like a tough argument for bernie at this point. >> well, will we see sanders camp shift tactics? he said he will not run a negative campaign, but he could resort to mud slinging in the final push. >> the last week or so has been pretty rough between them. he is headed back to vermont last night. i'm sure he is doing a lot of soul searching there in burlington. he has to figure out what kind of tone does he want to maintain over the next few weeks. pretty muc

great but algorithms should be part of the math. >> we require four years of math. doesn't have to include calculus. you don't have to have any particular score. but statistically the single strongest correlation to success was four years of math. something about the discipline. so kids could dial it up if they are not there already and you might see improvements. >> the gentlemen here and then here. that way keep the microphone here and we will pass it around. >> thank you. this is for president daniels. i am sorry. i am nick farmer. >> if i can interrut, i think president daniels has a nice ring to it. -- interupt -- >> [laughter] >> what percentage of your students are u.s. citizens? and what percentage of your graduates are working into the united states? how does this inform your thinking about policies that are working and not working in the country today? >> 85% of your undergraduates and only 55% of your graduate students are domestic. we think -- i will talk about the undergraduates. we have 30,000 on the main campus. we think we are in the right balance. i

a lot of math at play.d clinton try to close out april -- >> both front runners looking for wins but to make big statements. if you look where the five contests are with the exception of ohio surrounded by trump territory. donald trump expects to win all five tonight. the key is can he win them big? where would we look? pennsylvania largely a beauty contest. 17 delegates go to the state win winner. the rest are technically non-committed. donald trump hopes a big win gives him the political argument and say you must vote for me in cleveland. what should we look for? can he sell the trade messages? out there in the western part of the state. john kasich is from the western part of the state. can he somehow cut into trump's margin in this part of the state where he was born before moving to ohio. conservative pockets in the middle. can ted cruz cut into the margin or will pennsylvania be a victory for trump. on the democratic side here, let's go back and look at 2008 to remind people this victory in the 2008 r

>> no, our path is with the math. >> larry: with the math.u know, we started off this campaign having to run in the deep south of -- >> larry: trust me. i know about running in the deep south. [ laughter ] not an easy thing to do. [ applause ] >> m we didn't do all that -- larry: it's a different -- yeah. it's a conservative part of our country. >> larry: yes. but since we've been out of the south, we're doing pretty well, and i think as the weeks and months come ahead, states that we're look forward to are here in the northeast and out west are more proaggressive states and i think we have a real shot to win them and i think we have a real chance to win the pledged delegates. and then what i think is -- what a lot of these superdelegates begin to see which candidate is the stronger candidate against donald trump they're going to look at all these polls which have me way ahead of trump, a higher margin ahead of him than hillary clinten and i think some of these guys are going to be coming over. >> larry: a lot of people have talked about the

to do math sorry math ma titio titionians and math teachers out there. >> you agree no 4:45 in the evening or morning. >> sgluingt general at some point a little trigonometry it good. 49 for dulles and bwi is 59. see how mild it is this mornin morning. here's the deal again today. high pressure centered to the south and south eekt of us. it's going to be warm. we'll stay in the 80s today. it really looks like some of you won't get back into the 80s today perhaps upper 70s. norm and west. still going to be nice though. frontal system comes through really today and reinforcing cooler air tonight. we're talking about 60s and 70s tomorrow as opposed to 70s and 80s today in the source repeaton for tomorrow's air mass north and northwest. warm, 81. more high clouds. less sunshine today. i think we'll see a good amount of new sign shine from time to time. breezy as well and sunny. cooler tomorrow. clouds comeing across. we can only hold them at bay for so long. we had several days here of nothing but sunny blue skies. rain for the most part moved out of the south eastern texas area but they will

math is everything in politics. and math doesn't lie. just don't see how he takes it to -- he can take to the convention for sure, but i don't know how he gets the nomination. >> based on the math, chuck, he cannot become the nominee before the convention. that's just how it stacks up. when it comes to bernie sanders, he's not getting out of this thing. chuck, why is he staying in this, what does he want to get out of it? >> i do think that he has a chance to win. let me give you a little red neck math here for you. there is only 230 delegates between the two and california alone has more delegates than that. let's not talk about the super duper democratic delegates and the establishment. i just think it's good that we're having this debate and i agree that we are a party bringing people together. we'll all be together at the convention. but i think as long as we're keeping this momentum, bernie sanders' campaign has rewrote the way we do campaigns especially with the way that we finance these campaigns an all these young people going to

i kind of want to say what it felt like millions of people said to me in '08, math is math. >> that'snk is tricky about this is if we spend too much time talking about the mechanics and the process of where the math is going to ultimately take us, we can lose something and that is, if you're hillary clinton, you're walking a fine line here. she would like to disqualify him and we're starting to see that. ""the new york daily news" was problematic. she's coming up to the mike. i'm watching. she wants to keep his supporters in her camp once she gets to the fall. >> guys, let's listen to hillary clinton for a second. >>. >> that's video that we're looking at. we're still moments away. >> i'm sorry. it had a live feel to it. >> it felt so there. >> i want to give you the last word. tad devine said, nothing to see here. he's getting beat up pretty hard here in new york over that. does he need to sharpen his answers? >> well, first of all, i think he's getting unfairly beat up over that interview. i read the entire transcript. it was the editors of "the new york daily news" who didn't know

the math is on her side. there is more than a path for him. steve has the path and all of it for hillary clinton. steve. >> look at the delegate race, the name of the game, pledge delegates, forget about the super delegates, can bernie sanders catch her in the pledge delegate count. he was down about 240, the campaign, needs to make up ground. won rhode island, hillary clinton won delaware, wipes out the gains in rhode island, three state that hillary clinton won. this is a rough guess, three delegates by winning that state. pennsylvania, counting is slow here, the margins, this could be 15, 20 more delegates, a gain of 20 more delegating, maryland, a monster of a victory for hillary clinton. destroyed sanders in this state. probably net 30 out of there. you started the night with bernie sanders, with difficult odds, a gap in the pledge delegates. what will happen. i say conservatively, she will be leading by 280 or more when this night finishings. all of these states off the board. fewer opportunities for sanders going forward. really, there

i tried to crunch the numbers, i tried to do the math. we all expect trump to have a big night tonight. and then we go into the five northeastern states next week where he's expected to do well, so far as there is polling he's way, way ahead. so he's going to have a delegate haul. he could be 400 delegates ahead of ted cruz. a couple of weeks from now. and so then, you know, the sort of percentage of delegate that is he needs to win, well, he needs to win 68% of remaining delegates! that keeps going down. and it starts looking more likely that he gets to the number, or that he gets close enough so that uncommitted delegates can be persuaded to vote for him, so that the party eld elders, those who remain, the remains of the establishment -- >> i think that's us. >> exactly. and so what establishment is left to coordinate this whole stop trump thing. i've never quite believed in that. i think if he gets close, think he's going to get the nomination. >> nicole, that's the question to you. is this still a life where you wake up every day in a

here is the math to back it up. according to fox business, trump can get to the 1237 before the convention, even with senator cruz winning three winner-take-all states, nebraska, south dakota, and montana. with me now, my political power panel, sabrina schaffer, she is from the independent women's forum. liberal commentator, daniel mclaughlin. this is conservative route, our math, rules out the rnc changing rules or any kind of, some people call it funny business in july in cleveland. welcome to you both. i'm glad you're both here. so i want to start with you, sabrina. what is your take on the fact that donald trump can actually lose winner-take-all states and still get above that number, 1237 before july? >> well looks like the bandwagon effect has finally taken hold, voters, establishment, lots and lots of republicans are jumping on to his team and it is going to be sort of hard for a lot of republicans who still aren't sure about him to swallow. between numbers and between former speaker boehner's comments today

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you took the math to 1209? >> yeah.get you anywhere from 1130 to about 1220. >> that's 28 short of 1237. puerto rico has 23 delegates. rubio's out of the race. they have said we will vote for whichever of the three remaining guys fundamentally explicitly supports statehood. not the right of self-determination but statehood. all trump would need to do is say i'd support puerto rican statehood, get five more from american samoa or virgin islands and he's the nominee. >> guam, american samoa all unbound. they could pick the republican nominee. but to this point that, you know, there's been all this focus on he's getting beat at these state conventions. he's getting beat -- people are hustling, a lot of people will vote for trump on the first ballot or cruz people. if there's a second or third ballot, they're gone. a lot of focus on trump losing. but he's still the only one who has a chance here and if he has a big night tuesday and carries on through april, does the conversation change? >> no, because what is happening her

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it is a simple math matt cal not impossibility but beyond improbability. you look at the demographics so far, states senator sanders has won and secretary clinton has won. this is just pledged delegates. hillary clinton gets well out here. even if bernie sanders won them all, won every contest left, 55% to 45%, ten-point win ns every state, unlikely, almost impossible to happen. even if he did, he would not catch her as we split them as we did here. by a 55% win. even if you switched that to bernie sanders, secretary clinton still well out here. just a loss in california the clinton campaign says it won't happen. that would not be enough to swing enough of the superdelegates. if you project to the end based on the demographics and this huge win tonight. hillary clinton is out here. she could get closer to 2383. when you factor them in, you get off the chart and come way past the line with these 502. this is a conversation that sanders supporters loathe. when you lock these people in, the math becomes impossible for senator sanders, barring a miracle. that'

. >> the math. >> it's going to happen. >> but the math, bill, california primary's going to happen. that's for sure. whether it counts is another matter. >> you know, look, i'll give it to john king, i was watching him with the numbers just about ten minutes ago, right, and if you look at in pennsylvania, rhode island, connecticut, coming up we have the states that are coming up that it's unlikely she's going to have the full -- i don't mean to be dumping on hillary, i'm not. if you look at the math, everybody talks about the math, unlikely sure how the poll number of pledged delegates necessary before the -- >> but obama did do it. >> she will be. she will be way ahead of her -- >> absolutely. >> and this was his big shot. tonight. >> and just to be clear, just to be clear, barack obama also needed super delegates because there have been very few nominees and candidates who actually get to that mark that's needed and they all need super delegates. >> let me just, tonight was a great night for hillary clinton. you know, i think -- >> absolutely. >> what we saw down as the campaign n

and then the math gets really interesting. >> what about the math going forward?ect that out. if clinton gets that win there, assume she does that for the rest of april. this scenario, i gave bernie sanders rhode island. where independents can vote. you have white or blue collar workers there. but if clinton does well, just winning by 10 points in the rest of the states, she starts to stretch it out and gets close to the three quarter mark of the race. she has these super delegates that would get her closer to the finish line. the sanders campaign needs wins to make super delegates less of the equation. if bernie sanders can somehow have an upset in new york, somehow have an upset in pennsylvania, assume clinton wins delaware and maryland and maybe connecticut. but if bernie sanders can win two of the big states, he keeps the margin around 200 and hope the super delegates get a little queasy. at that point, they think the math becomes inevitable that bernie sanders would have to win. if this happens for the rest of april, bernie sanders would have to win these oth

do you accept the math? >> i accept math but not that funny math.ests the senator just won. he got over 80% in alaska. over 70% in washington state with over a hundred delgtds. won hawaii overwhelmingly. we also saw in nevada, at the convention, that in fact he picked up four net delegates there. so as the caucus process goes along in the various states he's going to pick up even more delegates than he won on election night. >> so you believe there is a clear path to victory for the senator still. you are not calculating going into the convention and seeing whether you can get out of it as somebody who made a mighty challenge. >> i think what this campaign is looking for and what the senator is looking for going into the convention and coming out with the nomination. >> simple as that. do you believe it will come down to who gets the magic number? or do you think that the democrat side, like we are talkingen on the gop side could wind up in a contested convention? >> good point chris. the truth is if you look at the math, if you want to talk about m

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we're going to dive into the delegate math on the republican side tonight in some detail. remember, folks, at the end of the day, it's delegates that choose the nominee, not voters. it's a representative democracy, even inside the private institution that is the republican party. so here we go. as i mentioned, ted cruz beat republican front-runner donald trump in wisconsin last night by a hefty 13-point margin. more importantly, cruz won a vast majority of the state's 42 delegates. trump only picked up six. he won two congressional districts, the third and the seventh. and trump is still leading cruz, but his lead has shrunk now to 239 delegates. trump's campaign reacted to the loss with a scathing statement against cruz that read in part, quote, ted cruz is worse than a puppet, he is a trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from mr. trump. cruz responded today to those remarks while campaigning in new york. >> the men and women of wisconsin resoundingly rejected his campaign, and the reason is simple. donald has no solutions to the

how do you fight the delegate math? >> i have been doing delegates for a long time. i spent the whole decade of the '80s counting delegates. the way we do it is just one state at a time. we have wyoming and new york after that. there is enough delegates if we succeed all the way through california and the district of columbia to win more pledge delegates than hillary clinton has. it will be hard and difficult but we can do it because bernie has a much better message. i think it will resonate in places like california. i think we can beat her in new jersey. i think we can take her on in new york. that is how we do it, one state at a time, one step at a time f. we get ahead and win most states even super delegates would have to admit that bernie sanders would be the stronger candidate to be the nominee of our party. >> thanks for being with us today. >>> coming up, fight club after a blow in wisconsin can the republican front runners squash the growing turmoil? trump spokesperson joining me. with booking.com's free cancel

the math is hard to see how the math gets there. now, now, so but you don't want to see is the front runner here looking, showing any signs of weakness. i think she needs to take new york, take new york strong, and then take pennsylvania, the other sort of northeastern -- >> what is strong? bernie is from the bronx, hillary is the home state senator. what demonstrates that strength? >> you know, truthfully, whatever campaign spins it better. is four point win strong, is five or six points strong? whatever candidate spins it better, and lowers or raises expectations, it has a lot to do with it. if she wins new york, three points, four points, solid win, you've got a lot of delegates. again, he has not changed the d dynamic that he needs in order to be the nominee. >> cornell, thank you. >> no, thank you. >> we've been asking you at home, weigh in on the pulse question. can bernie sanders and hillary clinton unite when one becomes the democratic nominee. 40% say yes. 60% say no. the pulse remains live, pulse.msnbc.com. we'll give you

now, it's complicated with the math on the democratic side. you have these two different types of delegates. superdelegates, party leaders, elected officials, they're automatically delegates at the convention. they're free agents, they can change their mind. what you have are people who say they're for hillary clinton, say they're for bernie sanders, but they're not locked in. the delegates who are locked in are in this category, the aligated delegates. these are the ones you actually win in primaries and caucuses. what the sanders campaign says, and this may or may not be accurate, but their case, their theory of the case is if they can catch hillary clinton in this category, during the primary season, then these delegates, the superdelegates, will be forced to change their mind and line up with bernie sanders. you see bernie sanders down by 246 right now. here's the bad news for him. he won wyoming over the weekend. but what was the delegate breakdown? he won seven out of wyoming. hillary won seven out of wyoming. he didn't gain any ground i