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posted on truth social and he said, you know, he greatly appreciated the efforts of matt gaetz, who was doing very well. butme time, he didn't want to be a distraction for the administration, for which he has much respect. matt has a wonderful future, and i look forward to watching all of the great things he will do. very sort of conciliatory tone from the president elect there, you know, not blaming anyone else for pushing matt gaetz out. so i think we'll see more come out about the reasons behind this and what's going on behind the scenes. but it does bring someone who you know very well, kayla, todd blanche, into the cross hairs now because he, of course, had been nominated as the deputy attorney general. so had everyone been confirmed, and matt gaetz then stepped out of the running. todd blanche would kind of assumed the role of attorney general. but you know him, kayla, very well from the trump trial in new york and everywhere else, because he is, of course, one of donald trump's main lawyers. todd blanche getting nominated for that role was slightly less controversial, especially among lawyers that i

now he will probably still try to stay with maga but i don't think matt gaetz is getting through.'s but we will have to see what happens. a very astute point, thank you for joining us is always. >> it's nice to see you. >> if gates is to be confirmed he would have to convince senator publicans and by the sound of it, that might be very hard. >> i was shocked that he has been nominated. if the nomination proceeds, i am sure that there will be an extensive background check. by the fbi. and public hearings . >> i'm very troubled. >> what about matt gaetz? >> and will have to think about that one. >> any concerns? >> we will see. >> do you think matt gaetz is confirmable? >> we will find out, won't we? >> what you think of matt gaetz as attorney general? >> happy things giving. >> i completely trust president trump decision making on this one but at the same time he has got to get to congress and sell himself -- a lot of questions will be out there and he's had to answer these questions, and hopefully he is able to answer the questions correctly. >> i want to bring in former obama depa

but it underscores to me why the president's lack of background checks for his nominees is flawed. he may have still decided to nominate matt gaetz, but if they did a thorough vetting he may have decided not to. having the fbi review potential nominees it's not only to protect the public interests, it's to protect the president- elect's interests to make sure he's not sts to make sure he's not embarrassed by nominating someone like matt gaetz. i think it shows a flaw in the process he even got nominated. perhaps with respect to hegseth had a thorough investigation been done it might have influenced the president- elect's decision to nominate him in the first place. >> big pictures, president- elect trump said he wants to pick pam bondi to serve as his attorney general. he has swept the battleground states. he won the popular vote. republicans have control of the house and of the senate. do you think that the president- elect should have his picks confirmed? >> i think the president has a right to nominate anyone who is qualified who has good judgment and good character. doesn't mean he's guaranteed senate approval of whoeve

president, are you reconsidering the nomination of matt gaetz? >> no. >> but just two days later, gaetz withdrew from consideration, though he continues to deny wrongdoing. >> i was dealing with a politically motivated body. they have an axe to grind. so that was going to serve as at least enough of a basis to delay my confirmation as attorney general. >> did the decision surprise you? >> no. i was surprised the timing of it. i thought it would go longer than this. ultimately you can see the writing on the wall. >> hours after gaetz dropped out, president-elect trump named former two-term florida attorney general pam bondi who served on mr. trump's defense team during his first impeachment trial, instead. after mr. trump lost the 2020 election, bondi amplified his false claims of election fraud. >> as eric trump said, we are thrilled to have won pennsylvania. >> we have won pennsylvania and are not going to take it away from us. >> bondi has been a vocal critic of the criminal cases against mr. trump as well as special counsel jack smith who charged him in two

senator, i apologize for the seediness of today's lead story, the subject of matt gaetz, but do you - a combination, a weird combination specific to the time of trum of relief and deep anxiety about what was in the box that matt gaetz's name came out of, right? there was obviously a hat that came out of todd blanche and people that were normal enough and then there was another hat and then mattgate combaets gae another hat. >> it's very hard to tell, certainly something not sane or normal. i think that when you want to install as the chief prosecutor of the united states of america somebody whose experience with criminal investigations is the subject of one you have departed from the fundamental guard rails of normalcy, and i think that's one of the reasons why -- and god bless them, sufficient republican senators sent the message back to the white house that this can't fly, that they ended up withdrawing. i think, you know, a piece of this has been a challenge to the republican senators by the trump administration sort of daring them. there's the legend of the foreign potent who had

but then when it comes to matt — as well. , a lot of republican senators could not believe — republican senators could not believe their ears when they learned _ believe their ears when they learned the news and were asked about— learned the news and were asked about it _ learned the news and were asked about it yesterday. someone who is going _ about it yesterday. someone who is going to — about it yesterday. someone who is going to face a large uphill battle — is going to face a large uphill battle to— is going to face a large uphill battle to get confirmed because he has — battle to get confirmed because he has made a lot of enemies even — he has made a lot of enemies even within his own party. you have written about what is happening. give us a look bit of an idea of where these appointments was about where president—elect trump is going to take america. he president-elect trump is going to take america.— to take america. he started off with a more — to take america. he started off with a more conventional- with a more con

said i greatly appreciate the recent efforts of matt gaetz in seeking approval to be attorney general, he was doing very well. butthe same time did not want to be a distraction for the administration for which he has much respect. matt has a wonderful future and i look forward to watching all the great things he will do. i mean, there is no outrage in there. there is no, he was being persecuted. it's kind of like donald trump wonders what happens, too. >> as chad said, theriting was on the wall, donald trump saw that. his handling matt gaetz's withdrawal. to your point, a very collected, nice way. we don't know the reasons, we don't really know what happened behind the scenes, obviously, but one thing we do know is there were so many republican senators, it wasn't just democrats, who were saying privately this isn't going to happen. we are not voting to confirm this guy. and it obviously became insurmountable, and that's why we're here right now, talking about this. >> john: so who do you think is next? >> it's a great question. i wonder what will happen with todd blanche, obviously john sauer has been picked for

trump to, in my estimation, requires a major shakeup at the department of justice but you can argue about whether or not matt gaetz is the right vehicle, but a conventional or establishment choice is not what the people electing donald trump to do, the other justice department. >> is matt gaetz the correct vehicle? >> that is the question. but i think that we all often, too often i think focus on the person and not think about what the mandate is for change at the department of justice. in my view, this is a once in fifty-year opportunity to really shakeup the justice department, top to bottom. i have said to you , and others, on many occasions, but i thought it was an exceedingly bad idea that the country would rue the day that we travel down the special counsel road with regard to jack smith's investigation . i think that you are looking at major changes, no matter who the attorney general is with this justice department. i know that you can say, you cannot divorce that from who the nominee is. >> you can't do that. >> i think that with republicans in the senate, you're going to see that they will be incli

they did not bring charges against matt gaetz, but they have some of this information and it could comehecks and a lot of it has been reported publicly through the media. i think we'll get more details about matt gaetz's behavior, just not through that point. >> trump has been defying his transition team and going with his personal choices for cabinet positions. what's your sense of what's going on there? well, during the final weeks of the campaign trump was occupied with the campaign, and so the official transition committee led by howard lutnick and linda mcmahon was assembling a lot of names and putting them together, but everyone knew that trump would have the final say. so he has come back into this process over the last couple of weeks and he's not necessarily happy with all of the names that are being put in front of him. matt gaetz is a perfect example. we know from our reporting that there were a number of other more traditionally qualified candidates that were passed along to president-elect trump, and he decided to go in a different direction based on what he wants to see ou

it may not be the same level of baggage that matt gaetz did, but you have to imagine that her path to confirmation is much, much better than matt gaetz's. but there still could be a lot that could come out between now and then as we have seen, katy, these candidates are not apparently getting vigorous vetting by the trump team before they're announced. >> all right, ryan nobles, thank you very much. >>> joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, "new york times" reporter and msnbc contributor jeremy peters, staff writer at the new yorker, usan glasser and cornell belcher. jeremy, pam bondi has been on the trump scene now for a while. we watched her defend him in the impeachment hearings, after the 2020 election crisscrossing states like pennsylvania, trying to prove that there was fraud alongside rudy giuliani and, you know, it goes back even to 2013, donald trump made a $25,000 donation to an association having to do with her governorship, and she didn't -- she declined to prosecute the trump university case. that was a big scandal back then. how was she not the first choi

matt gaetz? doesn't have a whole lot of experience but she was, you know, florida's attorney general for eight years, so, that's something. >> reporter: i don't think there is much doubt at all that she has a much smoother path to confirmation than matt gaetz. but that bar is not very high. pam bondi, i think, will draw quite a bit of scrutiny from democrats. she's going to have to sit on -- for a confirmation hearing where they will ask her pointed questions about her role in the 2020 election denialism, whether or not that loses her any republican votes, i think it is an open question. but i think, you know, the level and breadth of her experience far outweighs the level and breadth of matt gaetz's experience. serving as the attorney general of florida, which is one of the biggest states in the union, that's a significant job. it is the type of job that someone would have before they take on the roles being attorney general of the united states, and she is someone that has practiced law at various levels throughout her entire career. so, you know, it is kind of the foundation of her professional l

matt gaetz. we knew he would pick him but matt gaetz has become a caricature.blican friend of mine who is also friends with matt gaetz told me he thought this appointment was the worst thing that has ever happened to the country. considering our country went through the civil war, the great depression, and 9/11, it is so shocking and unserious i think we will have a hard time getting this confirmed. he is working the phones to try to defeat as top enemy or he could become in the sights of the doj. i think there could be a chance for gaetz to serve two years, so it's up to john thune to see if he is a man who loves his country like mike pence, or whether his legacy will be the guy who watches as rome burns. >> let's bring in msnbc chief legal correspondent and the host of msnbc's the beat . it is great to have you on this morning. your thoughts on this pick for attorney general in light of what we just heard from dave aronberg? >> you are reporting, coverage, and discussion here is right on the money. this is an extreme, outrageous, complete shattering of all st

but if you are a republican, everything is true until you can prove yourself innocent. as to matt, he has withdrawn. as to what president trump will do next, i am committed to helping him where i can. i will not rubberstamp his nominees but i also will not engage in any anger. host: some reaction on capitol hill to this news of the last several hours attorney -- concerning the attorney general position. in oklahoma, independent line, guy is next. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i agree with lindsey graham, exactly what he says. it reminds me of the brett kavanaugh confirmation when they accused him of rape at a party and it turned out to be a lie. look what they put him through during the confirmation process. matt gaetz, it is possible, but why wasn't he convicted if they have this evidence against him? i would like to see the report. it will probably be leaked, is my guess, and we will find out. but i love the pam bondi pic from florida, a great pig, actually better than matt gaetz. matt gaetz is a super intelligent person. i think i would like to see him wor

rationality you know, other than like why would you vote against these nominees or matt gaetz for all the obvious reasons but i don't think it's at all a guarantee that any of them are going to vote against matt gaetz in the end regardless of what is in this ethics committee report. >> that is not to give those republicans task because we are not talking about brett cavanaugh we are talking about matt gaetz who is a different animal entirely in terms of politics not just in terms of sexual assault allegations in this world but what he represents in terms of dismantling the federal government and weapon icing the justice department. given that john, so we had allie on talking about the back- and-forth in the house ethics committee and there is this report that has this damaging potentially explosive material in it, a democrat on the house ethics committee could go to the floor of the house and enter into the public record, it would be a breach of protocol like we have never seen before but it is allowed and it would put it in the public eye. and i sort of understand why democrats see themselves as the guard r

matt gaetz. say no to rfk junior. i don't think they have that much courageous to say, no, mr. president. but the courage to say no to matt gaetz and say no to the president, i actually wonder if naming gaetz was a chaos play because todd blanche, who was -- >> me to distract from other things? >> to distract, sure, but matt gaetz is so, what is the word i'm looking for? toxic, unacceptable in the job. but todd blanche, who was donald trump's lawyer in the hush money case, he was named the debbie, correct? -- the deputy, correct? he is and feeling better. he's an actual lawyer, a real respected lawyer. -- he is infinitely better. he went to work with donald trump. i can see that possibly happening. >> but that shows real strategy. >> i might be giving him more credit than is due. it is donald trump. >> let me ask about john soon. it is a good point. what does the election of senator john thune to be set majority leader, a huge shift away from mitch mcconnell but it also marks the rejection of rikc ck scott, who was running for leader and was backed by elon musk and other maga voices. what doe

qualifications for the job and while we are on the subject, i don't think matt gaetz does either, and i respect senator haggerty, butaid about the justice department was true, let's just assume that for the sake of argument, that is not the issue, the issue is matt gaetz and the issue for director of national intelligence is tulsi gabbard. she doesn't have any experience in intelligence matters. she has demonstrated repeatedly that she doesn't understand international affairs, she has been quoted as saying that effectively, putin was justified in having russia invade ukraine because there were secret american biological weapons, laboratories in ukraine. this is fantasyland stuff. i think the answer here, the nominations clearly are going to be made, it is customary for every senior nominee of the president to have a full field fdi background investigation particularly insensitive national security and law enforcement matters. those investigations could begin now and a smooth transition where the incoming president has announced his senior appointees, secretary of state and so the outgoing administration can let the

but we have been told that donald trump was all in on matt gaetz, that he had said over and over again that he was going to give him his support. it was the most important pick. but for those around donald trump and the people who wanted to get some of these other not as controversial but still slightly controversial picks across the finish line they were worried about then being a larger hold up because of the fact that he was spending so much political capital on matt gaetz. now, i will tell you i did talk to a number of sources close to gaetz after those meetings with said they were cautiously optimistic about how it went. however, when you look at what some of those senators said afterwards in terms of transparency, in terms of essentially warning gates that there could be more stuff that that that he needed to be transparent coming forward. it was unclear if their reaction to this. again, cautiously optimistic, was the same reaction that gaetz himself or those senators were having after they actually sat down with gaetz. but one thing that is just so interesting about all of this

donald trump, if you look at the last two years, has promised a doj that maybe it's not led by matt gaetz, but it's matt gaetz like has promised a isolationist foreign policy has has thumbed their nose at kind of national security establishment. so much so that we should see these pics as i think his those promises. and i think there was a big distinction between the voters who voted for him, many of whom were not completely insulated in that world. and i think their own vision of their mandate, which i think is doubling down on that kind of kind of maga first ideology and the clearest expression of it, because i don't think that we can just say, like, of course there can be another person who might execute the same kind of goals as a retribution. doj and matt gaetz but i think donald trump is choosing this person on purpose because of the crawl test. the kind of the senator white house laid out and honestly, why wouldn't he? we haven't seen senate republicans really show much desire to push back against donald trump. until that comes, why wouldn't he choose the person of his clearance? >> mel

doj and matt gaetz. buthink donald trump is choosing this the crawl test, the kind of the senator white house laid out and honestly, why wouldn't he? we haven't seen senate republicans really show much desire to push back against donald trump. until that comes, why wouldn't he choose the person of the clearest path? >> melissa, i understand the argument of like, somebody from outside the system coming in to break up to, you know, throw a bomb into your bureaucracy and reorganize things, but also bureaucracies have their own inertia and their own power. wouldn't it be more effective to actually have somebody who has experience in these bureaucracies to to actually get in there? >> i strongly agree with that. and i've heard this from a number of folks, whether it's doj or the department because can a bunch of like very established people in the department of justice slow things down in ways that are pete hegseth won't even realize very much. so my prediction was, if hegseth gets confirmed, he's going to be out

i have been measured, i think, i don't buy into some of the worst case scenarios, but as matt gaetz becomes attorney general, that is a hard step in that direction. >> what i found fascinating is that it is a most the polar opposite of the merrick garland pick, by joe biden, which was -- you know, merrick garland if anything the knock against him was that he was too methodical, too slow, and gumming up the works of the justice department produces putting in an individual who was there in effect to bring the whole place down. >> george, i was here eight years ago, when you were in the running to be the solicitor general. >> and then later i was offered the job as head of the civil division which is basically the world's largest civil law firm. >> from that perspective, what are you seeing with what he does the department will look like now, and hearing, as bill haggerty was saying, he wants there to be a confirmation process, but hearing trump has a mandate and corrections but yeah, he's complete the spineless, as i said. look, it is absolutely appalling, but par for the course. i mean, dona

but, what is the prosecutorial experience that matt gaetz has to hold a position? we talked about these controversies, surrounding parties and 17-year-old girls, but what is his experiential qualification? to still go into some role -- yeah. >> reporter: right. i think two fronts to that. he does not have a deep experience as a lawyer. but i think that donald trump picking him to be the top prosecutor for the department of justice is indicative of other picks that we have seen. and i don't mean to dismiss your question, but the department of education, selected linda mcmahon to lead and she does not have educational background outside of serving on the board of trustees for a small private university in one year back in 2009 for the connecticut board of school board and then if you look at matt whitaker, one of the individuals whose name was up for attorney general alongside matt gaetz, he was nominated yesterday to be the ambassador to nato, despite having no clear foreign or diplomatic experience, and so i think so far we have seen from donald trump as well as pet

matt gaetz's profile within the party. certainly a very big ally of donald trump. butterms of the fringe of the republican party, even as it stands now, matt gaetz is on that fringe. not somebody that would -- i mean, i don't see him as somebody who would sail through. then again this is a republican party that has seen donald trump win and win and win and win even when they didn't expect him to keep on winning. i mean, there was first the "access hollywood" tape, winning the 2016 election, sailing through and not having a problem with impeachments and then january 6th. he has proven to be unsinkable, and i wonder if the republican party has a stomach to push back against him any longer or if they might be worried that donald trump would go after them. you heard jason chaffetz, former congressman on fox news giving a warn to senate republicans to confirm pete hegseth, saying, you are not going to like what's going to happen to you if you don't fall in line on this. i'm paraphrasing. >> yeah, i mean -- >> hold on. i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin

i guarantee there are votes enough to confirm matt gaetz. so, but this really is about chuck schumer and the democratic caucus having the discipline of messaging. this is about defending the american people. >> dan pfeiffer, client and claire mccaskill, thank you. >>> coming up the president- elect attends a spacex rocket launch with a man who is already received government contracts and stands to gain more. trump has started receiving intelligence briefings again despite being indicted on 40 cans of mishandling classified intelligence. what could go wrong? a member of the house intelligence committee joins me to discuss next. iscuss next. switch to shopify and sell smarter at every stage of your business. take full control of your brand with your own custom store. scale faster with tools that let you manage every sale from every channel. and sell more with the best converting checkout on the planet. a lot more. take your business to the next stage when you switch to shopify. drop everything and get some magic of your own during the xfinity black fr

but, we still have time to do that and i hope we can get it done in the future. >> in your consideration do you think matts qualified to be attorney general? >> i am not referencing anything in our investigation, but i would just say that the department of justice is the lead institution for the united states of america, the top lawyers are there. he would be the chief law enforcement officer for the country. it is a big job. typically we have people that are very experienced attorneys, frequently with department of justice experience. that is at the office that deals with prosecuting spies. they deal with prosecuting international drug cartels. they deal with key civil matters including matters before the supreme court. i don't know that mr. gaetz has the background to do any of those things and i do think there could have been better nominees for them to have chosen. but, the president has the right to pick who he wants. the senate also has the right to eject to that person if they don't think he is up to the task. we will see what they do. i want to make sure they get all of the information they need t

and so you know, we'll see what happens to matt gaetz. but it ain't over till it's over, as they say, scott. >> so, so in this context that it is i think we can all know that there will be something else for matt gaetz in this administration. do you think the house ethics report will see the light of day? >> i don't know if the actual report is written, will see the light of day, but i think virtually everything contained therein will and is currently being made public. i mean, look, we've got stories popping out this week. there's more reporting going on every day. so whether gates or anyone else likes it or not, virtually everything in there is going to come out. if he gets another appointment that doesn't require senate confirmation, i'm sure there'll be even more people that dig into it. i still am wondering if he's not entitled to show up and be sworn in to the house in january. i mean remember, he resigned from this congress and said he would not take the oath in the 119th congress, but he was duly elected by the people of florida for t

matt gaetz just resigned suddenly when he was announced which is weird, he didn't have to but he did reason because it was two days before the house ethics committee was set to meet to consider releasing their investigation of matt gaetz over accusations of sexual misconduct and illicit drug use, allegations that he denies. tonight we are learning of what might be in that report, we have on the record statements from people involved. the attorney told nbc news, my client testified to the house ethics committee that she witnessed representative matt gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in orlando in 2017. according to his attorney, that was given in april, a spokesperson for matt gaetz responded this way, merrick garland doj cleared matt gaetz and didn't charge him. ru alleging garland was a part of a cover-up? after he suddenly resigned, the scheduled health -- house ethics committee abruptly shelved and republicans expressed it was normal to see the report, trump's minions on the hill elected to block it, so mike johnson came down to release the report. >> i think it is ve

you can argue about whether or not matt gaetz is the right vehicle, but a conventional or establishmenthoice is not what the people elected donald trump to do-- >> is matt gaetz the right vehicle? that is actually the question here. >> well that is the question, and i think-- we often focus on the person and not think about what the mandate is for change at the department of justice. in my view this is a once in a 50-year opportunity to really shake up the justice department top to bottom. i have said to you and others on many occasions that i thought it was an exceedingly bad idea that the country would rue the day that we travel down the special counsel road with regard to check smith's investigation. i think that you are looking at major changes no matter who the attorney general is-- >> that you can't-- >> i know you can say you can't divorce that from who the nominee is-- >> you can't do that. >> look i think with republicans in the senate i think you are going to see they will be inclined to support this nomination, but that doesn't mean the senate does not have an independent rol

this was before matt gaetz was the pick, that a trump doj might target them, but they could be investigated. do you think that is going to be part of gaetz's repertoire? is he going to be settling scores? >> i don't know, i don't want to speak for matt or the trump administration. i'm pretty sure, with this pick, they are not just going to go around and shut down puppy mills. this is a very serious pick and donald trump is, obviously, telegraphing that he means business. matt gaetz is one of his best weapons in congress. he is taking him out of congress and giving him the attorney general's office. again, i have known matt for 10 years. matt is very good at what matt does in congress, and now he's going to bring that to the attorney general's office. i don't want to get ahead of what their plans are, but donald trump is very clear on what he plans to do with doj, by giving it to matt gaetz. >> you are on the foreign affairs committee, and you, obviously, have an eye on those issues. when you look at some of the picks , also, another controversial pick is pete hegseth, who does not have gove

that on friday, tomorrow was supposed to be a potential release of the house ethics reporting to matt gaetz butecause matt gaetz is resigned, those senators from both sides say they want to see the report if they are going to be voting on this person to be the top cop in the nation. stuart: we've got more reaction from lawmakers to the gates nomination. watch this. >> it's like the kind of trolling. >> i wonder if he could get confirmed by house republican conference based on the stories of the last couple years. >> we give him the benefit of the doubt in terms of due diligence. >> i don't know enough about ethics charges. it is interesting pick. we have to see how that unfolds. stuart: all right. let's bring in our own legal legal, shannon bream on the right-hand side of the screen. in your judgment does gaetz get confirmed? >> when you have numbers of your own party saying i've got to think about this or that is a shock or lindsey graham saying i voted for a lot of people i didn't like, that leaves a lot of room open for where his vote may go but it' s a top process to get through judiciary t

also stunned if matt gaetz came back in january, because that wouldn't help him in his confirmation process, probably. butl sort of sterned by a lot of things. i think for all of this discussion about, about matt gaetz and protecting him, this is about the loyalty to the president. so i would be surprised if we saw that. >> elie honig, grateful to h have you. >> and john thune, his big brother. >> my neighbor to the north in south dakota, nebraska and -- >> yes. >> i mean, it's a -- >> it's not the worst. >> thank you. appreciate it. >>> heard here on "cnn this morning" a new senate majority leader, we just discussed. john thune, overcome as maga campaign to boost scott, first order of business. already very tough. plus a civil sit- down between two men who don't really like each other very much. >>> all right. welcome back. it's november but we have a new storm strengthening over the caribbean. get to our weather man derek van dam. what are you seeing? >> corning, kasie. monitoring the storm closely. unfortunately what is good for u.s. interests in this particular instance is bad for other interests. nam

care to to wounded soldiers had improved so much since matt in combat and and i work with him a little bit on that on that film just a little bit. and but i saw the interviews that matt did and and the title welcome my combat was the first one we did together just came me because i love the idea and this became our mission that our mission of walking in combat boots was if you had been in combat, you would say that every woman in patterson it right and how could we because we interviewed for that book over a hundred combat veterans and if you're one of these people that sits there and thinks that you understand things that you don't like, how i collaborate with people, those people always have their own stupid theories, who always are wrong. but if you think you understand the military you would read that book and go, i had no idea i was totally wrong about that. you mentioned that when you met with dolly parton, she said could write a country song standing on her head. do you feel that? do you feel that way about writing books now? that's not not sitting in my head, but i do have a lot confidence in myself as a storyteller. and i think

care to to wounded soldiers had improved so much since matt in combat and and i work with him a little bit on that on that film just a little bit. and but i saw the interviews that matt did and and the title welcome my combat was the first one we did together just came me because i love the idea and this became our mission that our mission of walking in combat boots was if you had been in combat, you would say that every woman in patterson it right and how could we because we interviewed for that book over a hundred combat veterans and if you're one of these people that sits there and thinks that you understand things that you don't like, how i collaborate with people, those people always have their own stupid theories, who always are wrong. but if you think you understand the military you would read that book and go, i had no idea i was totally wrong about that. you mentioned that when you met with dolly parton, she said could write a country song standing on her head. do you feel that? do you feel that way about writing books now? that's not not sitting in my head, but i do have a lot confidence in myself as a storyteller. and i think

matt. it had been a long road, but investigators were about to hear the truth from a surprising source. usion of "evil intent." keith morrison (voiceover): matt kidder, the young man who was like a brother to jessica nelson, like a son to her parents, was sitting in the police station three weeks after jessica's death. keith morrison (voiceover): but by then, the omaha police did see him as a suspect. they knew that matt checked facebook the night jessica was killed, would have seen the post that revealed she was home alone. they had discovered that matt's cell phone was at or near jessica's place for 17 minutes that night. you'll see where his phone-- keith morrison (voiceover): police tech experts oscar dieguez and nick herfordt. so right now, it's about 11 o'clock. ok. and you're going to see a couple more activations where he's still at work. and right there. and so-- and then all of a sudden, it switches. and that's at her house at that point. yes, that is directly in the area of the house. keith morrison (voiceover): and there was more. the detectives had noticed a crescent shaped

i know if he could vote in a vacuum, i would not vote to confirm matt gaetz. but you did hear him being careful. he did say that gaetz has to be confirmed by the senate. i don't think he necessarily committed to supporting gaetz, but certainly you wish that these republicans could be more honest and open about what they really think and feel. in some cases, we don't have to speculate, we've heard them. you played the clip. >> if he could vote in a vacuum like the way they elected john thune. i want to play what matt gaetz said about the department of justice, because this matters. >> i don't care if it takes every second of our time and every ounce of our energy, we either get this government back on our side or we defund and get rid of, abolish the fbi, cdc, atf, doj, every last one of them if they do not come to heel. [ applause ] and i don't think it's too much to ask. >> come to heel. like dogs. what does that say, what does that tell us, the choice of gaetz, how donald trump plans to use the doj? >> yeah, so i guarantee you there are not very many federal pro

but i think these meetings are where the rubber meets the road for matt gaetz. >> he's well known, right. but he's not particularly well liked to the point that you raised. and actually here is what one incoming republican senator charlie had to say telling us tonight if the reports corroborates, what are now just allegations. listen i think it would be very, very and and i hate to play the what if game because i want to see it first, but i don't think there's any way he could get confirmed if, if this is if this is accurate. >> it was already a very it's already a hard push to get matt confirmed to begin with. this is this is this this will make things very difficult if it comes out that it's actually true. >> what do you think? well, look i was chairman of of the ethics committee and i can tell you, matt gates did not resign because this ethics report was clean. these reports, this report is likely type of a sanction, a reprimand, a censure, and in the most extreme cases, an expulsion, which would be a moot point now since he resigned. but this will not be pretty and also if the if the

but seriously, you don't know who he is, you are shocked that he has put up matt gaetz? nybody at this point? why do they still pretend? why are they so out there? but then as we just heard from the congressman, if he says jump, we jump. if he says three feet, it is three feet, no matter what he tells us to do so you should not be shocked 4:i think gaetz, allies of the president-elect, i ran into lindsey graham who talk to him all the time and he was like, i had no idea this was coming.>> apparently it came from the plane ride to dc. she was in another cabin in the trump airplane. meanwhile, matt gaetz was in this cabin with trump and hatching a plan. it was actually like something right out of a bad netflix movie . >> you are supposed to not have to work on friday nights and saturdays. like that is not how the congressional beat is supposed to go and yet you have done some reporting in the last 24 hours? >> and at least 30 senate republicans right now are saying matt gaetz is a qualified and we will not support him. i have been in trump's administration, i have seen them

before the break that this is an outcome that you think is just, but you seem almost unhappy tonight. explain. >> i am not unhappy for matt not getting the job because he is the most least deserving person on the planet for the job along with a host of other folks that have been nominated by trump. but what irritates me, and i don't know if it's madness, maybe drives me mad, is the fact that how everybody else reacts. and how everyone else responds. and the titillating aspects of whether or not senate republicans, oh, are going to take out the choice. and the fact of the matter is the republicans have made it very clear from the very beginning, they are not man enough for that. they are not man enough to go up against donald trump in that vain. so i am not going to play that reindeer game with everybody here in town and act like somehow this stimulating interesting news. >> let me ask the negative -- >> let me make this point. this is the outcome that should have happened. the more important point, the name should never have been put forth in the first place except for the fact that the president wants to punk everybody.

than rationality like why would you vote against these nominees, vote against matt gaetz, for all the obvious reasons, but i don't think it's at all a guarantee any of them will vote against matt gaetz in the end regardless of what's in this ethics committee report. >> that is not to give those republicans a pass. >> no. quite the contrary. >> because we're not talking about brett kavanaugh here. we're talking about matt gaetz, who is a different animal entirely in terms of politics. >> 100%. >> not just in terms of the sexual assault allegations and the swirl, but what he represents in terms of dismantling the federal government and weaponizing the justice department. given that, john, we had ali on talking about the back and forth in the house ethics committee. there's this report that has this potentially explosive material in it. a democrat on the house ethics committee could go to the floor of the house and enter it into the public record. it would be a branch of protocol like we've never seen before, but it is allowed and it would put it in the public eye. i sort of understand why democrats see them

i greatly appreciate the recent efforts of matt gaetz in seeking approval to be attorney general. he was doing very well, butnot want to be a distraction for the administration for which he has much respect. matt has a wonderful future and i look forward to watching all of the great things he will! no point -- no mention, ryan, of putting him in some other slot where he might be less controversial. i want to bring in joyce vance, former u.s. attorney to talk about matt gaetz and the impact that he would have had on the justice department. now, it is clear that whoever is going to be, you know, leading the justice department instead of matt gaetz is going to carry out the president's wishes or try to. and it could be todd blanche, who is the designated person for the deputy, very powerful position, and highly respected lawyer. joyce? >> you know, the nomination of matt gaetz signified something that i think we all knew in advance, that donald trump is ready to go to war with the justice department. ready to undercut the mission and the work by career employees across the country whose job is to protect the am

fighting right now, and i know that there is some reporting that he understands how embattled matt gaetz is. >> but if you look at how hard he is fighting right now for matt gaetz to be his attorney general, and you know how much it mattered to him that he didn't quite have the person who would go to bat for him like he wanted last time what is it about gaetz ag that he is so uniquely poised to deliver that donald trump wants so badly? >> well, let me say i'm of the conspiratorial class on on this one. okay, so so so i will lay it out. this is a win win for donald trump and for matt gaetz. it's a win win for matt gaetz because matt gaetz was on an airplane before he got on the airplane. he wasn't considered for the department of justice. now he has been nominated. a report was coming out within a couple of days now he's able to at least shape the narrative of whatever comes out in that report. he's going to somehow get support out of it. so if he's a sacrificial lamb, he's not able to get through. that empowers donald trump to get some of his other more controversial nominees through and quite fran

but i think she at least will not be sort of -- as much of a catalyzing lightning rod figure as matt gaetz was about the become. >> i would wonder if she would be -- i mean she's clearly steeped in maga-ism right? she's an election denier and proven herself a tropaic lite but seems to have a better understanding of the workings of the law and that seems problematic for people. the fact that she has been i think heading up part of the like litigation wing of steven miller's america first policy institute suggests to me and i don't know how you think about this, that she will be working in tandem with steven miller as they try and execute on some of the trump administration's most least proposed draconian ideas including the rounding up of migrants and detention camps and the rest. does her affiliation with steven miller and to some degree by virtue of that project 2025 concern you? >> well, you know, the massive roundup and promised deportation of 10 million or 11 million people looks like the centerpiece of the early agenda of the new trump administration. so she would obviously be, y

american people spoke loud and clear. >> some americans want to see the house ethics report in matt gaetz, but we haven't seen the same push from house republicans. why is that? plus day one in the trial of the on document -- undocumented migrant accused of killing laken riley and what was played during court in this awful case. >>> the selection of former congressman matt gaetz for you as attorney general leaves lawmakers scrambling to find out what happens next and joining us now with republican congressman of minnesota the third highest-ranking republican in the house and the actual title is house majority whip and people like to call you whip and is that what you think? >> it might be one of the nicer things. >> let me ask you first of all about matt gaetz and today the ethics committee postpone the meeting where they would decide what to do with reports and speaker johnson said earlier today that he doesn't think that this report about these allegations in this investigation into matt gates should be released but there are senators and republican senators who would like to read it for the

also told that, i mean, it was very clear people were telling donald trump this, but trump's transition knew for days that matt gates was going to have a very difficult time getting those confirmation votes. they pam bondi will have an easier time going through this and that was one of the key requirements really. but i do want to walk through some of pam bondi background, because i do think that's important to note here, as she now has to face her own kind of potential issues with senators who will be involved in her confirmation process. one, she's of course, she was a prosecutor for 18 years. the former first actual female attorney general in florida. um she fought to overturn obamacare and preserve the florida gay marriage ban while she was attorney general. she also most recently joined the amicus brief to federal appeals court in support of donald trump. in the classified documents case. but i think the big thing with him and what we know about him thinking that attorney general is going to be the most important role, the one that he is the most kind of obsessed with behind the scenes is that he wants so