this could add complications to matt gates. at this point, these members of congress are saying that there's nothing to see here but, as you can tell from the testimony from people inside the white house, this actually happened. >> you mentioned mr. biggs -- >> mr. biggs did. mr. dornan talked about congressional pardons but he never asked me for one. mr. gomer asked for one as well and mr. perry also. i'm sorry. >> and today was a clear reminder that the investigation is still going on, federal agents searching former justice department official jeffrey clark's home. what do you know. >> this is part of the investigation the justice department is doing into the effort to overturn the election. and jeffrey clark, it appears the search occurred at his home predawn hours. he was outside in his pajamas as the federal agents went in there and retrieved whatever information they were looking for. according to his office, they took his electronics. again, we don't know exactly what the agents took but we know this is part of the broa

congressman matt gates is tweeting that the committee is a political sideshow.weeting that it is a witch hunt. they rely on hearsay. seeking a pardon is not in admission of guilt, it does suggest that these elected officials believe that they were in significant legal power -- peril. senator ron johnson finds himself involved in a new controversy, after tuesday's hearing revealed that his staff tried to win hand over us list of fake electors to vice print. we are going to turn to former fbi intelligence agent peter. thank you for being here. it's good to see you on the show. let's begin with pardons. as a former law official, why would these six republicans need or want pardons. should the doj be investigating them for criminal exposure? >> katie, you want a pardon because you've done something wrong and you do not want to be prosecuted for it. they might argue that their fear is that it could be politically persecuted as part of some opposing administration. the fact of the matter is, each of these individuals, through the information that the january six commi

matt gates has not denied it. and millbrook's made no comment.gh he has offered to be deposed by the committee. the other big allegation this week was senator ron johnson and ted two-handed lever fake elector documents to vice president mike pence immediately before the final vote tally was set to begin. >> a staffer for wisconsin senator, ron johnson, texted a staffer from vice president pence just minutes before the beginning of the joint session. this staffer stated that senator johnson wish to hand deliver to the vice president the fake election was votes from michigan and wisconsin. the vice president, unambiguously, instructed him not to deliver the fake both to the vice president. >> i'm joined now by pennsylvania congressman mary gates gallant, member of the house judiciary committee. congresswoman, welcome. thank you so much. before we get into the specifics of those revelations. i am just curious. what is the vibe in the house on the other side of the aisle among your colleagues that are giving all of these revelations? the hearings now

on january six, the republicans began, trying to rewrite history, while the capital was still -- matt gates the house chamber, as if he was in fifa. sort of blaming, and -- they have the capacity to do that because they have this massive propaganda disinformation operation that dominates the internet, dominates people news, and they information bubble to tell a story, even that's the worst of facts. >> i mean, matt gates, marjorie taylor greene, she doesn't even have a committee assignment. she has done nothing, in terms of policy, legislative wins. yet, there's hugely powerful, in terms of media. is that whether publicans have figured out, that democrats have been doing their jobs? >> i think we live in attention economy, right? if you can get attention. attention is political power. marjorie taylor greene has left power in return for attention. mccarthy is scared of her because she can generate that attention. she knows how to do that. and that is one of the things where i think democrats have to really learn to do, which is, messaging is two points. what you say and how you get people to

those include matt gates, mo brooks

as you see, he emailed the white house, quote, pursuant to a request from matt gates, requesting a pardonfor representative gates himself, and unnamed others. witnesses told the select committee that he offered pardons to a wide range of individuals connected to the president. let's listen to some of that testimony. >> was president -- >> i believe so. >> the general tone, was that we could get prosecuted because we were in the defense of the president's positions on these things. the pardon that he was discussing, requesting, has as broad as you can describe, from the beginning of time up until today. for any and all things. he mentioned nixon, and i said nixon's pardon was never nearly that broad. >> are you aware of any issues of democracy pardons? >> mr. brooks, i know both advocated for their blanket pardon, and a handful of other members that were not at the december 21st meeting. as the preemptive pardons. mr. gates was personally pushing for a pardon, and he was doing so since early december, i'm not sure why, he reached out to me to ask if we had a meeting with mr. meadows about

. >> is matt gates janet do you have another question? >> no, we had discussed this prior. is an ultrabright commercial. [laughter] >> that is funny. question before you. go? on the independentcaller: i hava question. this is for the republicans, democrats, independents. much before trump ran for president -- months before trump ran for president, at one point, he was being interviewed and said, what did you get at it your uncle -- what did he teach you to do to be important and their way with things? he said, just say it long enough until they long up until they believe it even if it's a lie. and they will believe it. practice all those unhappy ears and eyes you can seere what happened. that is all i can say. >> i think she is right donald trump as demonstrated time and time again, long before the election he does not feel compelled to be bound by the truth. the "washington post", the fact checking, donald trump left office in january 2021 we had over 30,000 false statementsdu just during his presidency. it sounds hyper- partisan to say that. republicans don't like hearing

as you see, he emailed the white house, quote, pursuant to a request from matt gates, requesting a pardonfor representative gates himself, and unnamed others. witnesses told the select committee that he offered pardons to a wide range of individuals connected to the president. let's listen to some of that testimony. >> was president -- >> i believe so. >> the general tone, was that we could get prosecuted because we were in the defense of the president's positions on these things. the pardon that he was discussing, requesting, has as broad as you can describe, from the beginning of time up until today. for any and all things. he mentioned nixon, and i said nixon's pardon was never nearly that broad. >> are you aware of any issues of democracy pardons? >> mr. brooks, i know both advocated for their blanket pardon, and a handful of other members that were not at the december 21st meeting. as the preemptive pardons. mr. gates was personally pushing for a pardon, and he was doing so since early december, i'm not sure why, he reached out to me to ask if we had a meeting with mr. meadows about

what did you make the fact we had matt gates and marjorie taylor greene and company apparently desperate. >> i mean, for me, the fact that it was not just one, not just to, but up to six members of congress. congress, not white house staff, not members of the dispersed legal effort that they cobble together across the country. but members of congress who were asking for pardons. to me underscores the fact that this was conspiracy. it underscores that there were people who were looted on this. they had a sense of what they were doing. and was mind-blowing is the fact that it was members of congress. people who swore in to protect the constitution. people who because they've run for office, as you know michael, who are at the core our patriotic. who are at the same time trying to undermine the government that they've sworn to. and the fact that it is an entire group of them. it is mind-blowing. >> so caitlin, i will get your take on that as well. because do you think we are going to learn more names here? do you think there are some others out there who are going to be feeling this as well

witnesses say saw preemptive pardons from president trump, they include congressman mo brooks, matt gates, andy biggs, louis gomer, scott berry, perhaps marjorie taylor, these are sitting members of as a preventative, should they be censured? should they be removed from committees? what do you think? >> i think -- that is i guess, a decision for colleagues. my job is to put that evidence out there. at the end of that, i only know of one reason to seek a pardon. because, you are worried you are guilty, you have committed a crime. this is something that they have to answer to their constituents. you know? i cannot enforce rules in the house and do certain things unilaterally, but i think the bigger point is, listen, america, do you really want your members of congress out there, trying to bend or break the law, so that they can maintain political power? that is anathema to everything we ever learned in history class , whether you are in third grade or a senior. that has got to stop.'s budget is interesting, because you had three trump loyalist, rosen, donahue, and engel testified today. the

moe brooks wrote in an email specifically that matt gates was one of the lawmakers as well, i was askingardon and andy biggs, was also involved and asked in some capacity. these lawmakers were asking for preemptive pardons. moe brooks put out the full email after the committee's hearings and tried to clarified that it was because of potential unfair persecution from democrats, even though the word he actually used an email was prosecution. you are exactly right there, there is a suggestion of guilt when juan asked for a printed pardon. >> persecution, prosecution, you re-arrange the vows and confidence, they are still fundamentally different words. what is the legal criteria for blanket pardons? can they cover, quote, from the beginning of time up until today for any and all things, as congressman gaetz apparently requested? >> it is academic because they did not get them, but it can be for crimes that have not yet been charged but they must be for crimes that have been committed. it can't just be, just in the off chance that you may have done something wrong once. we are not saying we d

you just said something that was kind of interesting in the midst of all that, you mentioned matt gateslated to january 6th issues or other issues? he's under investigation for other questions. >> i think, andrea, what we reported a month or so ago, maybe more, was the committee had testimony that gates had asked for a blanket pardon. we should say they have issued some denial of that. we know from committee sources and from people who are familiar with the committee, shall i say, that the committee has that testimony from somebody they interviewed, not gates himself, that he indeed did ask for that pardon. a blanket pardon that is. >> betsy, jake called out your name a moment ago when he was talking about mark meadows. anything to add there? >> yeah. i think mark meadows is a really important piece of this in very internally conflicting ways. a former member of the select committee, a former investigator said meadows' texts basically made him the star witness because they laid such a detailed blueprint of what was happening in the final weeks and days of the trump administration but at

we could have a myriad of examples, not only ron desantis, but also matt gates, and tens of others ase scrutiny than andrew gillum has in this case. >> yeah, it is frustrating to see. roland, you know i'll just let you take the floor, we get this is something that you has traveled our leaders forever. >> right, and look, you are not saying oh, you are previewed and do this. if you have evidence, you move forward. what you are saying, and i agree with, it is wait a minute we see these folks have done. we see other lies, we see when it comes to trump in his inauguration committee, no one has been charged. so-called investigation, january six, steve bannon. a big walls being built, he got a pardon for that as well. okay, you can be had on state charges somewhere? and so that is part of the issue. i also think this issue that we have with this department of justice is, what could mean politically? for the other side. it doesn't matter. the sign up the supreme court, says equal justice under law. should we put a brand that sees, white or black? that is the problem here. is it equal? the fa

you see, he emailed to the white house, quote, pursuant to a request from matt gaetz, requesting a pardon for representative gatesesses told the select committee that the president considered offering pardons to a wide range of individuals connected to the president. let's listen to some of that testimony. >> and was representative gaetz requesting a pardon? >> believe so. >> the general tone was, we may get prosecuted because we were defensive of the president's positions on these things. the pardon that he was discussing, requesting was -- as broad as you could describe, from beginning -- from the beginning of time up until today, for any and all things. he mentioned nixon's and i said nixon's pardon was never nearly that broad. >> are you aware about any members of congress [inaudible] >> mr. gaetz and mr. brooks, i no, both advocated for there to be a blanket pardon for members involved in that meeting, and a handful of others that weren't at the december 21st meeting as the preemptive pardons. mr. gates was personally pushing for a pardon and he was doing so since early december. i am not sure why. mr. we ga

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gate at the white house. something we have never seen before. that is really serious >> greg: you're talking about the white house >> matt: the black lives mattere house where they had to clear the park the next day they almost breached did grounds at the white house. dozens of secret service personnel were harmed as they had rocks and bottles thrown at them. excuse me if i look at all that and say that's pretty serious too >> greg: in the green room jim you said i i wish january 6th was every day. i thought that was disgusting. >> jim: i meant fourth of july. i mixed up my seasons. but, yeah, first of all, i love the -- i love all of a sudden the sensitivity from the stupid commanders. they had to be forced to stop calling themself the red state and now all of a sudden they're about polite dialogue. i disagree, i like when sports figures -- i would love to hear vince lombardi talking about trans athletes, who wouldn't love to hear that? he did nothing wrong, his opinion is right or wrong is not relevant. he expressed an opinion. steven a smith to be fair he did go on to say at the end of the clip that he should not be punished. he said this gu

gates, i got to tell you, one of the interesting one. he denied all wrongdoing, not charged. but, according to the testimony that we heard in the lawyering today, matt gaetz was asking for everything pardoned. prosecutors are still looking at him and deciding if he will face these larges. now, this could add complications to matt gaetz. a the this point, you know, again, these members of congress are saying there is nothing to see here. as you can tell from the testimony from people inside of the white house this actually happened. >> not all of them but several of them did. >> you mentioned mr. gaetz -- >> mr. biggs did, mr. gohmert talk about it but never asked me about one. more on an update if the president is going to pardon members of the congress. mr. perry asked for a pardon, too. i am sorry. >> today, we got a clear reminder it is still going on. federal agents searching former justice official jeffrey clark's home. what do we know? >> we know it is part of of the investigation they are doing into the effort to overturn the election. and clark, it appears, was, the search occurred at his home predawn hours, he was outside in his pajamas as

matt. thank you so much for joining us this morning. got so much going on again. gatesoing to be opening up in about a half hour. the race doesn't actually start until one o'clock, but there's a concert before that. there's an air show before that we talked about the first will opportunities for a hot blew hot air balloon ride as well, so plenty to do if it's just you or the family coming out this morning, frank and claudine let's get back to you. always a fun weekend. thanks so much. james always love nascar events. people would talk about how great it is to get up close with the drivers and pit row and the sonoma raceway. i know drivers like that, because it's really it is an unique wine country, things probably kind of cool to get off the track. i think they're they're working busy, but you know, it's one of those events to that. i'm like, you know, it's going to be hot when nascar comes to town because it's always hot. so the cool down is a treat. yes for folks are heading up today. wow, what a difference. i just a day makes temperatures did begin to fall off yester

gates have already open fans are out here. there's so much to experience and for the first time, nascar is actually releasing a california license plate. matttalk about it with me. so first time nascar releasing this california license plate. how did the idea come about and why it was really a partnership between the nascar foundation and the california natural resources agency. >> and, you know, we want to have an opportunity for nascar fans to show their love and support of our sport will also doing a lot of good within the state of california. and so with these license plates, the access underserved communities. to the great natural resources of wonders here in the state of california and also benefit the nascar foundation, which which services kids throughout all of our communities where we being >> and today people can actually come and get one of these license plate here at the raceway to talk about how people can do this here at the race week. and are people able to do this online without it that people can come up right here in the fan zone in the midway. they can come register for those plates. are they just go online to nascar pla