former director mccabe joins us now here live on set. for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> there's a million things i want to ask you, but given your role in initiating these investigations, do you feel like this public-facing document by robert mueller and his office today correctly and aptly explains why those investigations were started and whether the predicate was sound? >> i think it does. i think it validates the decisions that we made, certainly in july of 2016, to start the initial russia-focused investigation, and then, of course, the decisions we made in may of 2017 to include the president in that investigation personally. as you know, rachel, the fbi, the standard for predication to open an investigation in the fbi is an articulable factual bases that a crime might have been committed. we've been saying as much as we can publicly in the last few months that those are the reasons, looking at the facts that we had before us, that we opened the case on president trump in may of 2017. >> one of the things that is expla

andrew mccabe who live three times under oath was fired. jim baker whose transcripts are fully coming out. jim baker, chief counsel was demoted and then left. currently under investigation by the justice department. lisa page, devoted then left, peter strzok demoted then fired. these were the key people. >> sean: will they be indicted in your view, the rule of law is followed, will they be indicted? >> two things will happen, as sara just mentioned, inspector general horwitz will bring its report forward as he attorney general late yesterday. that will tell us a lot, and bill barr's investigation will unfold as well. that will determine if they can indicted. a >> sean: do you see laws broken? i know that the criminal referrals are coming this week, probably tomorrow. >> i do, i particularly think so with andrew mccabe come i think he is uncharitable coming in peter strzok, we will have to see what mr. horwitz does and what the attorney general says. >> sean: sara, we will have the criminals were approached, do you see indictments in your cr

why did mccabe and all of these people exist? i mean, mccabe whose wife got $700,000 from hillary clinton's pac and she's under investigation by the fbi. no wonder they let her go. so many violations. so many crimes committed. hard to believe, actually. maria: it's all quite extraordinary. it's all quite extraordinary. >> we caught them. now, everybody wants people to go out and find out what the hell happened where did all of this corruption start, when you have strzok and page. maria: our viewers want to know. >> the lovers we call them. maria: our viewers want to know that. >> hillary clinton loses, we want an insurance policy, we can get trump out. well, it didn't work so well. i tell you what, it really hurt our country and it hurts our country and this is cleaning out the deep state. this is cleaning the swamp and we've gotten rid of 22 people at the very top. these people are corrupt. and then you look at a guy like brennan with his big mouth and you look at clapper who is a dummy and yet he was in intelligence. he's a dum

what's happened is unthinkable with strzok and page and comey and mccabe and all of these characters, and brennan and clapper and, you know, you look at what comey did as the director of the fbi, it's a disgrace. it's a disgrace to our country. and i think that i'm going to maybe -- i hope i'm going to be able to put this down as one of

mccabe understand is he definitely in line.o understand mccabe was interviewed very early in the process, we will continue to look at that mr. mccabe has a lot of answering and i know he wants to sell books but he has a lot answering to do as well u. >> martha: you say you will release his testimony. >> it is in the process, yes. >> martha: thank you very much, sir. >> good to be with you. >> martha: moments ago outgoing dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen tweeting that another official is leaving the department quote acting deputy secretary claire grady has offered the president her resignation effective tomorrow. for the last two years claire has served the department of homeland security can excellence and distinction. she has been valuable asset to dhs, a steady force and knowledgeable voice. nielsen's last day on the job is also tomorrow. coming up next a reality check on whether there is or is not an increase in hate crime in america. an interesting. >> attacker. masked, and he said this maga country [bleep] and punches me rig

i think andy mccabe is inbe trouble and peter struck. we'll have stee what l horowitz says, and attorney general says. >> do you see indictments in your personal ball. >> according to source that is i've spoken with, yes, there will be indictments and people will be held responsible for the actions that they committedor against the country. be james comey? >> i don't know. i certainly hope so. we'll have to see. >> yeah jim? >> look. i'm confident of mr. horowitz. and i think mr. barr is the kind of attorney general peoplee . tab. speaking the truth and hold our people accountable. >> ?oo this autos about our constitution. this can't happen again qh. we come, senator lindsey graham reacts to all of today's late-break news. and glen beck is here to, react to all the 2020 -- well, let's say democratic socialist extremists. straight ahead. clear these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any pac

are already going on with inspector general the fbi, there is also the investigation into andrew mccabext to our attorney general the stage was rod rosenstein. who you know, sometimes had claimed to say he would wear wire and today he is standards have exonerated the president. so i think this kind of attitude runs pretty high up the chain there. in the doj and i think it may take a while to change the culture there but i think we have a good start here. lou: i do too. i have to say i cannot help but be struck by the expressionless faces of the two gentlemen standing behind the attorney general as he started talking about federal agents. the attorney general shows the neutral word, scrutinizing the president and his campaign, i think the word could have been used as well, spying on. they did not blink, they did not blanch. but they were there, if you will come at the creation of this mess. >> absolute.they were -- out of the queen everything that went on against the president and many other americans that dates back to the vomit ministration. this is not just cleaning up corrupt cops at

there were dirty cops, these were bad people, you look at mccabe and comey and lisa and peter strzok. these were bad people. and this was a attempted coop, an attempted take down of a president. lou: two leaders of trump 2016 campaign among our guests cory lewindowski and david bossie, turning to national emergency, crisis on southern border, president is there tonight in part to draw attention to urgent reality ignored all together by national left wing media and radical dimms, president trump explains to reporters on scene, dangers. >> we start talking. first person said sir, we have many people dying. coming across the border, i say nobody said that. they know it but press does not talk about it much also they come in raid their houses, it is dangerous. told never to leave their house at night. and that day during the day, always carry a gun and know how to use it. these people had no idea. we have the media here, and good people here. i think it should be explained, nobody heard this. lou: president's visit to texas and the broken immigration system he trying to fix is our focus t

they used the steele dossier, mccabe testified to that under oath in 2017.f the fisa applications based off of the dossier. it's a crime to falsify fisa applications. it will show that crimes were committed. let's not forget, i think ag barr is going to mo down the path of investigates the investigators. not only do we have the fisa report. i think ag barr is going to do his own investigating and i think we need to look into brennon, clapper, comey, mccabe, and sally yates. i think they're in serious trouble if there's a full-throated investigation into their behavior. liz: the individuals you just named, do you expect them to be more vocal or less vocal going forward into the news cycle? >> it would be in their best interest to be less vocal by i don'but idon't expect that. they're in serious trouble. they've got some serious problems. liz: thank you for joining us. appreciate it, sir. thank you so much ffer having us in your homes. "lolou dobbs" is next here on te fox business network. have a great easter and passover. lou: good evening, everybody. radical

you look at mccabe and comey and you look at lisa and peter strzok and these were bad people and this was an attempted coo, this was an attempted takedown of a president. stuart: and two leaders of the trump 2016 campaign among our guests here tonight, corey lewandowski, and david bossie. turning to the national emergency, the crisis on our southern border, the president is there tonight in part to draw attention to the urgent reality, ignored altogether, by the national left wing media, and the radical dems. president trump explaining to reporters on the scene the dangers that border communities face each and every day. president trump: we start talking and the first person gets up and sits there and we have many people dying, coming across-the-boarder. i said nobody ever said that. well they know it but the press doesn't talk about it. also they come in and raid their houses and it's very dangerous and are told never to leave their house at night and that during the day, always carry a gun and know how to use it. these people had no idea but i said do you know what? we have the medi

they are hiding text messages from andrew mccabe, peter strzok and lisa page. there are others that are out there. you start off talking about the presidential campaign. you have to remember that the democrat party apparatus was involved in this. the democrat national committee spent money on this effort to overthrow the president by working with russia intel. they were meeting with the fbi general counsel just shortly before the election. the lawyer for the dnc and hillary clinton. joe biden was in this infamous early january, 2017 over office meeting with barack obama and susan rice and james comey, where they all talked excitedly about the dossier just before comey was launched by obama with president trump team through the dossier. >> i think we are going to see an effort to make it seem as though joe biden was dropped in from the planet mars and was never involved in this. he has been involved a great deal. he is an experienced man and knows what's going on. all of us, mike, when we deal with things like this, people mention watergate. this is exclusively

by the time special counsel robert mueller had been appointed on may 17th of 2017, andrew mccabe's fbiad been trying unsuccessfully for months to corroborate the phony christopher steele dossier, and yet the clinton-paid opposition research it contained and which constructed it was used to obtain four fisa warrants in an effort to spy on former trump campaign adviser carter page, the last of which was the last, was signed in late june of 2017. itth was never renewed. and on june 14th of that same year, a number of national news organizations, including "the washington post," politico, "the new york times," reported that mueller and his obviously very leaky legalat team were suddenly looking into potential obstructions of justice by president trump. this despite the president's broad immunity, his inability to commit if obstruction of justice as the chief law enforcement officer of the country and the long-held justice department tenet that the president of the united states cannot be subpoenaed. at least 16 months before the 2018 midterm elections, robert mueller and his team had very

andrew mccabe is a confirmed leaguer and liar. we know that there have been leaks. in the interest of our democracy, before the president gets reelected, let us have, and let us see who was leaking, that is put them under oath. let us investigate the investigators. anybody who objects to that is being partisan and having amnesia about how much we love having transparency. >> you said that the president was in a good move. talk about that his option this morning. what has he said? kellyanne: i will not go through any private meetings. many of us have with him throughout the day. you saw him at the wounded warriors project. he was down there taking pictures. he was talking to the lawyers and walking the press conference. a number of us were going to the report, and he is in there right now and ask me to come outside and have a little talk with you. he of course has the last word

you look at mccabe and comey and you look at lisa and peter strzok. this was an attempted takedown of a president and we beat them. we beat them. so the mueller report, when they talk about obstruction, we fight back. you know why we fight back? because i knew how illegal this whole thing was. it was a scam. what i am most interested in -- excuse me, what i'm most interested in is getting started, hopefully the attorney general, he mentioned it yesterday, he is doing a great job. getting started on going back to the origins of exactly where this all started. because this was an illegal witch hunt and everybody knew it. they knew it, too. and they got caught. and what they did was treason. what they did was terrible. what they did was against our constitution and everything we stand for. so hopefully that will happen. there is a hunger for that to happen in this country like i have never seen before, including all of the millions of people that voted for me. what they did was disgraceful. there has never been anything like it in the history of our coun

remember, he went after people like mccabe.e, where he said he thought he behaved improperly? nobody said, "oh, horwitz's reported so political and partisan as to be discredited." that wasn't the case. but the focus, if the focus is on the steele dossier, it's misplaced. i think what republicans -- and you guys, speak up -- but i think it's about the fisa warrant and the fisa court authorizing. those requests to the court were done repeatedly. if it was solely based on the steele dossier, then that would be improper even if it was a legitimate information-gathering operation. i will let someone else judge that, but i believe that the fisa courts are what is under attack here. and i worry about that. because we need confidentiality in those courts in order to root out foreign interference. >> elizabeth: some of the courts are unconstitutional and super constitutional, then why do they exist? bob woodward was saying that it's highly dubious. finally "the new york times" is saying this -- the issue was we had a clinton foundation

so let's see what happens with mccabe and comey and brennan and clapper. they were in the act. and let's see what happens and let's see how high it goes up. it's inconceivable when it goes to clapper, brennan, comey, these people. i would imagine that some other people maybe a little bit higher up also knew about it and maybe a lot higher up. >> sean: i mentioned now strzok and page independently in theirir conversations, peter strzok had said about the collusion, there is no there there. lisa page, closed door testimony, actually said after the nine month fbi investigation, they had noat evidence of anything with you and your campaign and russia. that's before the appointment of mueller. we also had the house intel committee report. that's two. r no collusion, then the senate bipartisan committee and now the mueller report as you said, any news? no obstruction. no collusion. >> president trump: that'sac right. >> w sean: what is your full reaction to the mueller report? w >> sean: well, it was, as i call them 13 angry democrats >> president trump: well, it was as i call them,

let's not forget peter strzok and lisa page and andrew mccabe and the partisan trump hating high-ranking fbi are rigged into clinton because she was the favored candidate that should win 100 million to zero. the people that were voting for trump like me and you, we were just smelly walmart shoppers. so many questions will be answered now that we know there were spies and tried the trump campaign.on here's another question. was there any outsourcing of intelligence gathering? in other words, where there any efforts by high-ranking members of our intel community to bypass american laws and maybe use our british, australian, italian spy friends just available trump campaign? by the way, who got to stefan halper? who cast him to covertly meet lee meet with papadopoulos, carter page, sam clovis? uberit who recruited him from te federal government? if any of this started before july 31st, the alleged beginning of the investigation, we need to know when it started, and we need to know this big question. what did he know?no what that president obama know? when did he know it? all of this happene

i don't think i'll four of them, rod rosenstein, sally of commander mccabe, james comey, will have theof who is culpable in that, and they will be leverage for testimonies that are self-serving, the same way mueller did with michael flynn or his son. when we talk about conclusion, alexander down, who was instrumental in facilitating an fbi plant with cia cooperation from john brennan, is a u.s. citizen. he's a foreign national, as is christopher steele. that is collusion. but i'm getting at, we have a sense there is a united front, we are all going after trump, but these people are going to be testifying, samantha powers is going to say i didn't request those 260 unmasking's, that wasn't in my name. maybe susan rice did it. no, you did it, i didn't, and will have a back and forth with a larger and larger cast of characters, some of will, like mccabe and james baker, already under criminal referral, and the democratic party, in suspended animation, this was going on, they didn't feel they had to come up with an agenda, a menu, and all of a sudden it is gone. trump is going to be preside

i would argue there is a vulnerability for comey and for strzok and page and mccabe.riminal referrals coming this week from nunes. >> it's my job: did they break the rules to get an outcome? did they mislead the fisa court? do we need to change the rules about fisa courts? there are any rules about counter intelligence committee operations? doesn't you tell trump? you told feinstein. was it a back door attempt to get at his campaign. a prosecutor and not a politician needs to look at mb mccabe and comey and all of these characters to see if they broke the law. i hope they will use the same resources as mueller had to look at trump. >> sean: the border crisis. hearing from barack obama's director of homeland security and mark earlier in the program. a real crisis. donald trump his veto was not overridden. 9 billion dollars. president tried to work with democrats. the things they wanted. they would not sit down with him. a bigger victory for the president. more money than he ever dreamed of to get a good chunk of this done and complete. i think the other countries see w

katie mccabe and beth mead added goals either side of half—time.er danielle van de donk rounded it off with this effort and saw the gunners clinch the title with a game to spare. highlights of today's action are on the women's football show at 11:40 tonight on bbc one. five to one in scotland. sheffield united have been promoted to the premier league after leeds failed to beat aston villa in one of the most bizarre passages of play you're ever likely to see. leeds went ahead with around 20 minutes to go through mateusz klich, but chaos ensued afterwards with aston villa players and staff angry that leeds hadn't stopped with a villa player down injured. leeds boss marcelo bielsa then told his players to allow aston villa to score. they did so. it finished in a 1—1 draw, both teams will be in the playoffs. incredible scenes there. following that closely in a sheffield bar were the sheffield united players. these were the scenes at the final whistle when it went at elland road to confirm the blades‘ promotion to the premier league. congratulations to

look at andrew mccabe and focus on these characters. i started to focus to take a step back with what is going on and the more we started to investigate, little by little we peeled back the layers of the onion. it really felt like that. that it can get much worse than this. >> i absolutely believe general flynn was a target from the beginning absolutely. . >> keep in mind look at that time with a massive reorganization of the intelligence community there are a lot of power fall constituencies that liked the status quo he was talking about reorganizing that i think opportunity struck behind his back and all you have to do is take james comey's own comments he was tricked into the interview before he could get lawyers the man who oversaw the fbi. >> that a man who spent 33 years of his life dedicated to this nation his service overseas was exemplary and without him i have been told dee he was the third leg to get al qaeda targeting all of the operatives in afghanistan i talk to soldiers who said he will stand by us and was always there fo

andrew mccabe is a confirmed leaker and liar. we know that there have been leaks. in the interest of our thriving -- letcy,, let us have, us who was leaking, let us put them under oath and investigate the investigators. anyone who objects -- objects to that is being partisan. you said that the president was in a good mood. , anddid he get the news what has he said? kellyanne: i will not go through any private meetings, but many of us have been with us throughout the day. you saw him at the wounded warrior's project and you saw him taking pictures. you were like, why is he half an hour late taking pictures. he was watching the press conference, and a number of us were going through the report bit by bit. , and in there right now asked me to come outside and have a little talk with you. he has the last word on all of this. he was the one who was democratically elected, and the one that will address you at 4:00 when he leaves for a well-deserved easter break with his family. he feel about the former administration officials throughout the report. reactionsout the day,

is something there and the other names too, the people that signed the fisa application whether is mccabesally yates and rod rosenstein funded the last application. what is his role in this including the 25th amendment. shannon: todd: 1 about the global leak referral devon nunez mentioned? >> this is also position. i don't know who this is. is that john brennan? clapper? i don't know. i think john brennan was more of a puppetmaster than people first thought. >> you have this list, these committal referrals, eight to the doj? what happens next? what could be the outcome for all this? >> this is up to 2 dozen criminal referrals and what can happen, he referred these to ag bar, he will look at these results and i have to tell you i don't think he will dismiss these out of hand, the former head of the house intelligence committee making these referrals. if he decides to take them up and investigate them and does find criminal behavior people go to jail and that's the important thing here. i do think crimes were committed. people used our surveillance state and law enforcement as political too

. >> sean: mccabe? >> absolutely. >> sean: will strzok and page. >> they should be it's unclear if they will be. >> sean: orr? >> no. i'm not sure orr will. name the main people. but i think brennan and clapper should be charged with lying. >> sean: sarah? >> yeah, brennan and clapper certainly should be charged with lying. particularly clapper. we have seen him lie numerous times before congress. i also believe andrew mccabe has a lot to fear. peter strzok as well as comey and i think that there will be others dragged into this and it will be quite surprising. >> it will be done. >> sean: before we go? >> i will answer the question. i think it will be done. i think you will see this justice department under bill barr taking the sort of action we haven't seen for the last two years. >> sean: we will all need to take a victory lap the 99.9% were wrong. all of you were right. congratulations. thank you. not that we ever really want to talk about these things happening in our country. great investigation.

i also believe andrew mccabe has a lot to fear. peter strzok, as well as comey, and i think thatt there will be others dragged into this and it will be quite surprising. >> sean: the question is, will it be done? will be have the list before we go? >> it will be done. >> i will answer the question. i think it will bee done. i think you will see this justice department under bill barr taking the sort of action we haven't seen for the last two years. >> sean: we will all need to take a victory lap, the 99.9% were wrong. all of you were right. congratulations. thank you. not that we ever really want to talk about these things happening in our country. rigged investigation. rigged elections. trying to destroy a president. lara trump here to respond. bernie sanders' proposals and much more straight ahead. ♪ doug, doug! douglas! we're running dangerously low on beans. people love your beans, doug. they love 'em. doooooooooug! you want to go sell some tacos? progressive knows small business makes big demands. doug, where do we get a repla

the answer is no -- >> how about this from mccabe. "general, it's not a big deal." it's a big deal! we are coming over to entrap you in perjury. we are hoping you say you don't remember, then we can jam you up in perjury. >> laura: they were -- b22 got gummed up in it. >> it's necessary to give the same amount of attention to see who made it up, where did it come from. i think this was planned. >> laura: do you think cheryl mills, did they get immunity deals? i want those reports! i want that information. >> how about the guy who hammered -- b1 is that transparency? you are >> laura: you are unbelievably transparent with this. >> there is no underlying climb crime. you gave everything -- b1 they didn't get their interview for they are >> laura: they are mad because they didn't get their interview. they didn't get their interviews so they couldn't show whatever intent they were going to show and if they had the guts and have the confidence in their position, they would've taken you all to court. if they had so much confidence that trump obstructed justice, they would've taken you to