the president had been attacking mccabe. the bureau was grieving over the firing of comey, and here was the fbi opening up the most extraordinary investigation you can ever open on a president. is the president compromised by our chief foreign adversary? and rosenstein did not want this all to turn into a fishing expedition. he did not want this thing to go on for years and for there to be this examination of every little thing in donald trump's life to figure out what his ties were to russia. rosenstein thought that it was not a secret that the president had an affinity towards russia. he had essentially run on that and that this was not something that should be undertaken. he says to mueller, if you guys want to do more, you can come back and ask for that. but he tells mueller to focus on the 2016 election. focus on whether crimes were committed as part of that. >> clearly, though, at the leadership levels of the fbi, they weren't under the same -- they didn't have the same understanding about this as rosenstein did. i wan

when mueller took over the investigation, mccabe briefed him on this. over nearly 200 pages, mueller's team took on the question of whether trump obstructed justice. nowhere in the report was there thorough investigation of trump's ties to russia." . in reporting for this book, i spoke to several people involving in the mueller investigation, they told me the investigation never under took trump's business ties to russia. for instance, they said, investigators threw a financial document that may show trump's ties to russia but they never showed them. mueller never explained himself. if the american public expected mueller to answer questions to the president's loyaltie loyalties -- reporting from this book schmidt says, i discovered why. but, in handing off the investigation from mccabe and the fbi to mueller, rosenstein suspended the counter intelligence into trump. again, this is the investigation basically whether trump is a foreign agent or compromised by a hostile foreign power. rosenstein called off that part of the investigation. rosenstein belie

although the justice department went along with that and fired mccabe, andrew mccabe sued, contendingthat he was actually fired as retaliation and as a direct result of political pressure from the white house. well, today a federal judge allowed andrew mccabe's case over his firing to proceed to discovery. so mr. mccabe is now going to have the opportunity to try to prove what he says is the real reason he was fired. meanwhile, the current director of the fbi, christopher wray, keeps showing up and telling congress things that are true and that directly defy the president's publicly held conspiracies. yes, russia is interfering with our elections again to denigrate the democratic candidate again, to benefit trump again. no, there's no mystical election threat that derives from people voting by mail because they have to because of covid. no, the country is not overrun by highly organized left-wing revolutionaries, and actually the biggest domestic threat the fbi is dealing with right now is white supremacist right-wingers who want a race war. and christopher wray keeps saying what is g

he is singling out mccabe and mccabe's wife, ran for interstate legislator and is a democrat and even in when comey is fired in the firing letter, the mike schmidt about in his book. he says that one of the reasons you fired comey was because of mccabe's involvement in the end and the hillary e-mail investigation. i can remember. i believe it is may 15th. i think you write that in this may 15th . that the fbi decides to open up this obstruction and counterintelligence investigation. into the president of the united states. it's really unprecedented. you suspect that trump might be an agent of a foreign power, prussia. given that was mr. mccabe opening that investigation, given his history with trump. should he not have done that rated was he conflicted. .. .. it was an abuse of power. you think he should have stepped aside? why not go and get cover from d.o.j. before opening the most -- one of the most talked about investigations in the bureau's history. >> absolutely. part of what i talk about is the discussions we had shortly after the inauguration going forward about the fact that

he's singling out mccabe, mccabe's wife ran for state legislature in virginia and the democrat.red in the firing letter that mike schmidt writes about in his book he says one of the reasons he fired comey because words his involvement in the end and the hillary email investigation. i can't remember exact language but trump says it's essentially unconscionable. >> i believe it's may 15, i think you right it's may 15 that the fbi decides to open up this obstruction and counterintelligence investigation into the president of united states. this is really unprecedented territory. you suspect trump might be an agent of a foreign power, russia. given that was mr. mccabe opening that investigation and given his history with trump, should he not have done that? was he conflicted? i think a lot of people could look at that and say that was a retaliatory action by the deputy director that he's getting back at trump for singling out his wife and saying bad things about her. he was conflicted and shouldn't have done that. in a minimum he should've gone to rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney

want to hear from james comey, john brennan, james clapper, susan rice, a whole list here, andrew mccabe, peter strzok, bruce ohr? there will be a lot of people subpoenaed. samantha power, denis mcdonough. what do you want to hear? >> truth would be nice. they have been deceiving keeping truth from the public a long time. look at once that swiped phones made sure memories were all wiped i want to see the folks telling the truth, trying to pretend to american people they're patriots while they're undermining our government and candidate and president at same time. i would like comey tell the

that person thought to be andrew mccabe.nd so flimsy was the case against flynn, that the fbi planned to shut it down earlier than realized, in november of 2016, the day trump won. but top fbi officials kept it alive to satisfy the obama administration. plus, ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent who worked on both the flynn case and the mueller probe said he believes the flynn probe was part of a, quote, push to get trump, that trump-russia collusion was not there, it was a dead end, that the flynn probe was so, quote, problematic and based on such dumb theory -- that's a quote -- that he even warned there would be an investigation into what the fbi would do, and he threatened to quit. also with us tonight former trump campaign adviser carter page. remember, he was targeted by fbi agents who are now accused of deceiving that fisa court to get wiretaps to spy on him. carter page on this new bombshell, that the main source for the debunked anti-trump steele dossier, remember are, it was paid for by the de

at the time, my sense later confirmed by mccabe himself that mccabe took rosenstein completely at hisord though he tried to spin the comments as dark humor from the dag, who is not known for his humor. and this is sort of a blunt question. was the leadership of doj not prepared for what the leadership of the fbi thought was necessary. was that a mismatch? >> i don't see how having watched the administration that the dag, the acting ag at this point in time, would not be aware of the way that the white house would work and seek to use them to achieve their political ends. my take at the time was that the deputy attorney general rosenstein was absolutely serious about wearing a wire. he threw out the discussion of people who might vote for the -- invoking the 25th amendment. my sense was, as it was recounted to me, that was a hypothetical conversation. but to be clear, when he then, you know, expresses remorse and surprise that the letter he wrote expressing concern about the way director comey handled the clinton email investigation and he's surprised that president trump attempts to h

andrew mccabe sued over what he calls wrongful firing. mr. mccabe is going to have the opportunity to sue of what he says is the real reason he's fired. christopher wray showing up and telling congress that part is true and defy the president's publicly held conspiracy. yes, russia is interfering our election and no, there is no mystical election threat derives people voting by mail because they have to because of covid. no, the country is not over run by left wing revolutionaries. the big threat that the fbi is dealing with now is white wingers. christopher wray keeps on saying what's going to go on with the fbi, he's going to fire another fbi director right before the election at this time? maybe? nothing is going the way the president wants to go. all of this is bad news. the chief of staff of homeland security calling him a threat of the country and started organizing currently trump officials to try to persuade the american people to vote against this president. the top aide called the president a threat of the country who does not care

it centers around an investigation then acting director of the fbi andrew mccabe opened. then was in andrew mccabe's understanding handed off to the antti raan vaunted robert mueller investigation there was belief is that counter intelligence investigation was taking place, albeit in an opaque way, alongside the criminal investigations that mueller undertook. you report that that's not the case. let me show you andrew mccabe's statement at the time. >> our folks felt like we had an articulate base to believe that the president might have engage in obstruction of justice in the firing of jim comey and if so mr. might be -- might be a national security risk associated. that of course is the standard for opening an fbi full investigation. >> it was a full investigation not a preliminary. >> that's right. >> so, you broke most of the stories about the obstruction investigation. we know that happened. but he's talking there about a national security investigation to understand whether donald trump was comprised by vladimir putin and the russians and you report in your book tha

don't know if andrew mccabe knows that, your thoughts about the prospects of mccabe or wiseman. >> yeahthey should've brought them up a year or two ago, we had the horowitz report, the mueller report, this is not new breaking news, the president has been in office for four years, why it's taken until october of 2022 bring these people up for a public hearing, i do not know, the greatest respect for chairman graham but i gotta tell you, it's about a year end a half to late, get them up there and get them up there now. lou: while i don't share necessarily your respect for chairman graham, i do find it absurd that were talking about a year end a half since he took over judiciary and remember he said he was going to investigate the investigators and get to the obamagate because and all of the characters who created, we now see comey, comey must have a locker on capitol hill, he is up there so much saying absolutely nothing. >> that is the frustration in the staff could've been bringing in for transcribed interviews, i was the chairman and the oversight, we would bring in transcribed intervi

mccabe, hoping to get him without a subpoena, time will tell. >> mccabe is deputy director andrew mccabegraham would also like to receive testimony from peter strzok, well known for his anti-trump text messages. they'd also like to hear from former special counsel robert mueller. >> mulle robert mueller has decd the invitation, after the horowitz report he says he doesn't have enough time. common sense would tell you that multiple people that are under investigation is suspicious. horwitz is doing a review and this could be obstruction of justice. >> that is a reference to a members of the special counsel team wiping information from several dozen telephones before the justice department internal watchdog could inspect the devices so lawmakers say that's deleting federal records and are asking if that's a criminal offense. bill? >> bill: mike emanuel live in d.c. thank you, sir. joe biden and kamala harris campaigning in the swing state of pennsylvania, he will visit his birthplace of scranton while harris is in the south in philadelphia. that's where jackie picks of the reporting live t

we are negotiating with mccabe. mr. mccabe, we're hoping to get him without a subpoena. mueller has declined the invitation of the committee to appear and explain his report. after the horowitz report. he says he doesn't have enough time. but september the 30th, we will have mr. comey before the committee, and i look forward to it. >> sean: are you going to accept that answer from robert mueller, in light of 27 phones we believe were erased because everyone accidentally put in the wrong passcode repeatedly? and by the way, i never heard that locks up a phone or a race is a phone, have you ever heard of that? i have dropped phones in the ocean, i've dropped one and a toilet. i never used bleach bit. and i've had to replace phones because i lose them, actually lost phones. e >> it sounds fishy, we will ak the people who did the erasing. i've been telling your viewers for a long time, we are trying to have an accounting for what happened with crossfire hurricane, how did it get so off the rails, how was the fisa court misled multiple times, that day is coming, i'm proud of

mccabe will come in. he's out all over the place.nvited peter strzok to come, and we will see if he will come without a subpoena. but i look forward to this hearing and i think it will be important to the american people. >> i would like him to come on the radio and tv show. i have a lot of questions. now he was warned that the dossier was dirty before he sent the first one, that hillary paid for it but didn't put that in the accounts. we now know it's unverifiable. signed three of them after he signs that it was verified in october but he told donald trump in december, the president-elect that it's salacious and unverified. so he lied in october and lied in december. also none of this is true. in january of 2017, he went on to sign two more warrants. is that a fact? >> it's a fact that in january of 2017 and in march of 2017 the russian sub source told the fbi that it was bartok and tsi, hearsay. we know that happened. now who did the intel and landlocked case agent stella? we'll talk to them the next week or ten days but here is my

let's turn if we may to the mccabe comey and mark meadows the chief of staff saying there is more tom suspects to be nice about it. >> their work is suspect that is for sure. i think mark meadows is right, i think we will see new revelations in the form of declassification and probably some action by the special prosecutor john durham, i would look for an interim report or an interimm report combined with oe more or two more indictments or criminal charges filed between now and the end of the month. but the peter strzok story that he was overworked and that's why they messed up the fisa, that does not pass, that is notay evn on a funny holiday weekend and he was not challenged on it, no one was challenging him but peter strzok knew exactly what he was doing and knew the evidence was bad and knew he was not meeting the standards for theorou fisa court and whether e did it to affect the election or not, he did affect the electiont and we are still paying the price for the three and half years later and ier think all ts attention and the jobs by comey, mccabe and are struck are nothing

also lots of questions because of the links that mccabe's wife who was a political candidate in virginia had with people in the clinton orbit who were raising money for her. i think it's a huge development and it's important hopefully we will get to the truth. lou: hopefully we will get to the truth and we approach election day in 40 days out. many of those, myself included, were hoping that we would see an investigation that. >> some things. a report about the truth of the investigators and obamagate and secondly charges that hold accountable those who we now know from all the documents revealed, everything from all kinds of documents that there is more than probable cause here. there is every indication that great crimes were committed against this great president and this great nation. yet right now with basically have crickets from the justice department. >> yeah. i think what's interesting about terms approach and again you were right to say based on what we know that what's being reported is that durham is looking at two things. he's looking at the manner in which the russian inves

josh rogen, as well as former fbi acting director and cnn senior law enforcement analyst, andrew mccabe new threat, how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. you know, josh, let's talk first. i want to get to your report on that high lly classified report that you reported today in "the washington post." but let me go to andrew first and respond to this new warning from the fbi. this warning that foreign actors, i assume they're referring to russians, but you know better than i do, that are going to try to sew political chaos, destruction. all sorts of problems here in the united states if there's a delay, which there clearly could be, in announcing a winner after november 3rd. >> well, thanks for having me, wochl. i have to say, i don't have the benefit of having seen the recent of course classified intelligence, but i can tell you that this is right out of the russian standard playbook. the russians first goal in all of these active measures campaigned, the one we saw in 2016 and of course the one we're seeing now is so sew division, disunity and chaos in the americ

there's mccabe text messages.ing us -- they have a few pages of -- lou: yeah, they -- >> they don't want to give them to us until december. lou: let's be clear. various organizations, including and foremost among them yours, others, sidney powell, the defense attorney for general flynn -- >> right. lou: -- absolutely have laid this on the laps of the investors of the justice department, the fbi. and they have done nothing. now, they're either lazy beyond comprehension, or they are politically corrupt beyond hope. and there's another, i guess, possibility, that they just want to see what the american people vote and then see if they were right like a game show. it's sickening, what we're watching. and this president has a very serious choice to make. what documents can be released by him given that there's a criminal investigation, he doesn't want to be charged with obstruction of justice or interfering in an investigation, and durham's is a criminal investigation. is this just more of the same political corruption

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all these> >> jobs by comey and mccabe and struck are nothing but a prelude to the hammer falling andisconduct is only going to get worse in the next few weeks. lou: do you believe now that we are past labor day the conviction was the charges would not be brought within that 60-day period before the presidential election. you think that this will be a moment of necessary breach? >> normally there's a prohibition against someone involved in the election. fbi agents in 2016 are not supposed to be involved in elections today so there's a greater latitude for the justice department to bring charges against those who are not part of politics even if it involves a 2016 election and i would not be surprised if that happens. the big thing is can the prosecutors bring these charges up in the bigger question we will have to wait and see but i expect more action this month either in the form of a report or additional criminal charges. lou: let's hope, don't mind the report but justice requires indictments. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. up next uncovering the secrets behind china joe b

i think all of this attention, all of these spin jobs by comey, mccabe and strzok are nothing more thanoing to get deeper and worse in the next few weeks. lou: and will we, do you believe -- now that we are past labor day, the convention was that charges would not be brought within that 60-day period before the presidential election. do you think that this will be a moment of necessary breach of that convention. >> >> yeah, i'm not sure. listen, it normally is a prohibition against indicting someone that is involved in the election. finish fbi agents, maybe they weren't in 2016, but they're not supposed to be involved in elections today. i think there's greater latitude for the justice department to bring charges against current fbi officials who are not part of politics, even if it involves the 2016 election. and i would not be surprised if that happens. i think the big thing is account prosecutors convince the grand jury in d.c. to bring these charges. that's the bigger question, and we'll have to wait and see. but i expect more action this month either in the form of a report or addi

let's discuss this now with cnn senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. he is also the author of "the threat: how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump." andrew, according to "the times" the president has $421 million in debt which is coming due in the next few years. what are the national security implications of that? >> the existence of financial peril or disorder in someone's life is always a key factor in determining whether or not that person might be vulnerable to influence or a pitch or recruitment by a foreign entity and a first thing that we as investigators look at when we're trying to figure out if someone has gone to the other side and is now working with a foreign government, were they motivated to do so by finances? we have seen in many cases that's what happens. i have to tell you that in all of those cases i have seen, i have never come across an individual who was actually facing debts that were coming due on this magnitude. $400 million in the next 2 or 3 years is an extraordinary number. we also have some serious ques

plus house intelligence ranking republican devin nunez on former fbi official james comey and andrew mccabe. they're expected to face a heated grilling in the senate for letting the fbi use, use russia disinformation from a suspected russian spy, on the payroll of the democrat party and hillary campaign to help get fisa court wiretaps to surveil the trump team? also with us, retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan on the sanctuary county of los angeles, releasing hundreds of criminal illegal aliens back into the community after they were charged with crimes like murder and sexual assault. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: thanks for joining us. fox business network. look who is back with us white house communications director alyssa farah. >> great to be back on, liz, thank you. elizabeth: sure. the first debate tomorrow night in ohio. how is president trump going to get the independent voter, the undecided? what is he going to do? >> well the president's very much looking forward to tomorrow's debate. every day is prep for hi

the investigations themselves are basically abused we all know the extraordinary unusual campaign mccabe waged against him when he was in government and then we know it went to a potential indictment before a grand jury. what is it when you look at it when it is being investigated if it is for politics i want to read you something from bolton's lawyers. they say that they previously argued that he had gotten the clearance and that the allegation is the final signoff was basically delayed for no reason, and that's how we got here what is your view of that as it applies to the evidence you would raise? >> yeah. that's a great fact in bolton's book it would make it very difficult for prosecutors to bring a criminal case since you had the top classification official at the nfc saying there was no classified information in at least the first review of the book i guess the question could be, was it improper for bolton to have shared earlier drafts with the publish per may have had classified information in it there may be meritorious issues in this investigation. but if this is not the same ki

there is unequal justice here in washington, d.c. , mccabe lied two or three times.cost him millions and millions of dollars to defend himself. elizabeth: you know here's the other thing. you make a good point about unequal justice in d.c. because we're seeing, you know, we're digging into what happened with the fisa court. 85% of the nsa, excuse me, there was something like 85% of the fisa court searches done in 2015, this was a fisa court audit. they were non-compliant. this is under the obama administration. so the fbi, the nsa, the doj was going to the fisa court to get wiretaps and then the information that was collected was then given to outside contractors including places like the fbi. so the abuse of the fisa court is key to the durham probe. your reaction to that? >> well of course it is key. i wish i could tell you when durham's going to do more prosecution like the one he is already prosecuted but i want to make very clear. i would like to have people that violated the law to be prosecuted but the most important thing is, between now and november 3rd, all

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besides the pandemic you and i have been talking for years about the coverup with comey and mccabe andn. they don't want to say anything that would mess up their perception of reality at that time. the reason is, they don't want to have to admit the truth that donald trump has been fighting this virus in the best way possible. he has been truthful to the american people. you do need to keep people calm. you need to let them look to the facts. you need to point them to the right direction with government relations telling them what to do. what you doesn't need to do is what we saw from democrat politicians still do all over the country, the mayor, governor of new york was sending people back to nursing homes. that is the criminally negligent part right there. when you see governors who try to coverup what they were doing, when they were actually sending these high-risk elderly folks back to nursing homes where we saw death, we saw lives ruined because of their poor inaction you never see anybody talk about that because they only want to have a political angle at donald trump. who is doi

mccabe, his wife got $700,000 in campaign contributions from hillary clinton.ation and she paid the head of the fbi, one of the top people, the head because he took over for the other guy who fortunately i fired. i made a good move when i fired him. it was a smart move. they were looking to take down this administration. duly elected administration. so i fired him. that was a great move when i fired him. maybe if i didn't i wouldn't be here talking as president. when mccabe's wife gets $700,000 in campaign contributions and he's in charge of the investigation of hillary clinton -- he says i wasn't in charge. of course he was in charge. he was totally in charge. he knew what was going on. these people got caught in probably the biggest political scandal in the history of our country. they got caught. what the durham report is going to say, i can't tell you. if they say half as much as i already know just from seeing it -- you have people -- i watch some of the shows. i watch liz mcdonald, she's fantastic. i watch fox business. i watched lou dobbs last night, sea