mccarthy's investigations and later in 1954, the army mccarthy hearings were televised. was these televised hearings where americans got to see mccarthy's abuse of tactics and unsubstantiated allegations. for the first time. this changed public opinions and the viewpoint of mccarthy. and within a few of the hearings, the the senate had decided had voted to censure mccarthy for conduct unbecoming a senator in in the early 1950s. there was an increasi of media reports focused on organized crime and there was an increase in americans who were concerned that that this crime was becoming a serious problem and nothing was being done about it. senator estes kefauver of tennessee decided to look into this, and he created a committee in the senate to investigate organized crime and the mob. pa investigation going to different cities, the country. he went to 14 different cities and he interviewed law enforcement officers and politicians and citizens in these different cities to find out what the state of organized crime wain their areas. they often put suspected mobsters and gambl

kevin mccarthy barely held on for nine. only have one single vote to spare on legislation. back with us tonight, two men who understand political dynamics in congress. congressman conor lamb, and charlie dent, both of pennsylvania. charlie, marjorie said today is the fight that she wants to have in an election year. is this smart politics? in an election year? >> i can't begin to tell you, stephanie, how beyond this move is, because they have a very slim majority. a one-vote majority to begin with. it's clear she does not want to be in the majority, so think about it, this very slim majority is already at risk. the house could easily flip, so why not have another gop circular firing squad now, or whenever she tries to move this motion to vacate? why not do that again? that's the thing. it is beyond absurd. it is pure lunacy that she somehow thinks this is a good idea. luckily, for mike johnson, it sounds like some democrats may not allow her to succeed this time, unlike with kevin mccarthy, but as a political matter, it's b

she helped kevin mccarthy. she got on the wrong side of the anti-government base of the republican party and now she's doing some makeup. she wants to get rid of mike johnson. i think it's possible there's a bit of payback for him given that she was so closely supportive of kevin mccarthy, but at the end of the day what you've got here, stephanie, is a significant number of republicans who aren't just in what congressman dent said about the hope he has to vote no caucus. there are members of congress sent here to oppose the government continuing to operate, right? there is no appropriations bill that they will ever vote for. there is no amount of clipping back spending they can say hey, that's acceptable because of this primary challenge, because of this fear. it used to be they were all hope yes. some voted no. now there's a whole bunch of them, not the majority, but certainly enough with such thin majorities as you're talking about before with mike gallagher, enough of them to throw sand in the gears every ti

this is a very different situation and then was all or kevin mccarthy, if so far? but there was a larger group of people who were calling for his ouster. it wasn't just one person. and now she's saying it's just a warning. i just brought it up. i might not bring it up to the floor or as you said, dangling it over him, but i won't say when i'm talking to these very conservative republican house numbers, they also don't want to do this again, there's also another person who doesn't want to do this again. and that is former president donald trump. did you notice that she said she said she hadn't talked tonight >> because the thing is by the end of this, he was calling everyone saying just get this done. i'm tired of this being here. you guys all look like beer foods. nobody wants to go through this again. now, will someone come out and back or maybe but we haven't heard it yet. so it is again, on all sides it's a different part. >> it will be interesting to see if he calls her and says, come on let's let's not do this. this is not good for anybody okay. everybody stan

and another senator, this one from minnesota, eugene mccarthy, had also thrown his hat into the ring for the nomination. and really, the indiana primary was the first opportunity for him to test out his message and his campaign with voters. so although it was a long shot. indiana, which is a more conservative state, even among democrats, didn't seem like the right state for kennedy to start his campaign in. and it was a bit of a gamble. but as kenne hself said, you know, my whole campaign's a gamble, so we're going to give it a try in indiana. following his speeches is in south bend at the university of notre dame on april 4th and his subsequent talk at ball state university. kennedy was supposed to, according to his schedule, fly to indianapolis, coming at where cook airport, as it was then known from there, go to downtown indianapolis to open up his new campaign headquarters. after that event, he was supposed to come out here to the broadway christian center at 17th and broadway streets, which was in the heart of an african-american neighborhood. give his standard campaign speech,

exactly the same thing that kevin mccarthy did.what has mik? exactly the same thing that kevin mccarthy did. and marjorie taylor greene was one of kevin mccarthy's supporters and she stuck by him but eventually ousted him. so she's now attacking speaker johnson for doing the same things that kevin mccarthy did. which is understanding that republicans don't have the votes to do any of this alone so that they ever to rely on democrats. mike johnson was clear this week when some members wanted more time to review a bill, he said we have to govern. mike johnson knows that there is only one playbook in the house which is to pass these important bills with bipartisan support. >> and we talked about in the past how this rule of only taking one member to file a motion to vacate the congressman would come back to haunt republicans. and we're seeing the fruits of that now. >> that's right. kevin mccarthy cut a deal with the members because he so badly wanted to on become speaker. and he gave them the weapon that they ended up killing him wit

and matt gaetz and johnson are on two different sides very much like mccarthy previously.nning to look like a minority if they keep doing this. they have apparently more energy for fighting with one another than they do fighting anything else. you mentiong an illinois, you t mention texas, and virginia, current active members campaigning against the head of the freedom caucus, correct? >> correct.eedo this race is interesting.ma one is my hometown. we have chairman bob good whoen first decided to endorse ron desantis over donald trump. there is an element of this question, will donald trump get involved. att the moment his head campain officials taking shots at bot bb good. he sends endorse trump after desantis dropped out quickly. but mike mccarthy might be o looking to put money in the race with his allies.on but one thing that struck me become a member told mee recently, he hasn't seen this many republicany on colleagues lineup against sitting member like bob good as they have liz cheney. so there is some sort of irony a here.ey, bob is facing john maguire, who is a the

and what missing from people like mccarthy and mike johnson? it's a great question. i mean, look, i don't know how we get here. so i'm just going to toss this out and. we absolutely need campaign finance reform. i mean, george w bush, i remember when he ran in 2000, he had raised like 50 or 80 million. and everybody's, holy --, that's a lot of money, right? it was it was record breaking like they just spent 80 million. each candidate in new hampshire for a primary. i mean, that's that's to give you an example how exponentially this is. and so money is like mother's milk to a politician. you have to raise money. if you don't, you lose your ability to raise money affects how effective you are in congress. you well know, if you don't raise money for national committee, you're not going to get those plum committee assignments, even though it's officially not based on that. it is. and so so that's a huge problem. but can i just can i just press you on that? you talk a little bit about that because i don't think people outside the hill really understand how this basically

it's interesting that it's open now that mccarthy has resigned. you have the regular primary happening on march then you have the special election primary happening two weeks later. in this race, the front runner is a state assemblyman and his mccarthy's longtime prote and once it was clear that mccarthy was not going to be returning for another term, he was thought of as the likely successor. he has a couple of opponents it looked like this competitive race initially. trump just endorsed fong. trump's endorsement is a game changer. i think he is the pretty clear front runner heading into this race. >> that's the 20th district. talk about the 22nd district. why should we watch this one? >> the 22nd district is probably messiest primaries in california along with the 47th district which is held by katie port. the 22nd district is very competitive. technically the most democratic leaning republican held seats in california right now. david valid day-o has cut out a fairly moderate profile. he was one of the 10 republicans who voted to impeach trump

life miserable in exchange for nothing, then on october again the of age to outs mccarthy and replaceohnson and not much has changed except more bitterness and acrimony in the conference, members are actively campaigning against fellow republicans and they criticize what another publicly which may be why members skipped a gop retreat designed had discussed how to govern to instead campaign against current colleagues. speaker mike johnson told the gop members to knock it off and quit attacking one another but they are not listening, joining is now political congressional correspondent olivia beaver's. speaker mike johnson threw a party or a retreat and no one showed up were very few. they were too busy going out trying to kill one another politically speaking. it was very poorly attended and meanwhile there campaigning against one another. >> you sort of touched on about the irony of the speaker coming out swinging and blasting some of the republicans members for campaigning against her own colleagues and incompetents were the people that could receive this message were not there and i

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. >> one of your headlines from nbc news.com speaker johnson is still dealing with kevin mccarthy ifal does come together, what does that baggage mean and some of the criticisms ns his own republican conference? >> taking a lot of arrows from his own membership especially those onow the right just as his predecessor did but a lot of those arrows are aimed at things thatccput him places. the biggest example of that is the debt and spending it not only lifd debt ceiling but put spending caps in place to abide by as he is negotiating these various spending bills. that is one example. another is impeachment. there's speaker mccarthy at the time moved forward with impeachment and hadally set the wheels in motion. having to contend with the vet issue about whether to press forward or to pull back the reins. >> never a dull moment on capitol hill.or this conversatin phone lines are split as usual democrats, 202-748-8000, republicans, 202-748-8001, independent, 202-748-8002. until the bottom of the hour atp 8:30 eastern. turning away for the second of the budget and foreign relations last we

now mccarthy allies are aimed to knock them off. >> how much you can do with good voting to oust mccarthy well, it has it has something to do with that, but more important than that, we've got a guy who, who will be a good member of our team, goods opponent, a former navy seal >> says he was not recruited by mccarthy. he told cnn he spoke with the former speaker recently. >> i believe that bought my opponent wants to burn it all down. no solution kind of guy? >> so would you have voted to oust kevin mccarthy >> i would have never in 1 million years partnered with the but the other party to take out our leader if you are helping the democrat team take out the republican team, who's the rhino feud part any larger battle of the gop's direction while many say they need to govern through bipartisan consensus, hard-liners like good push free, no approach, >> i do not want to go back next january about both goods sitting there in the trenches. with me. >> let the swamp take out the chairman of our freedom caucus. >> good has also clashed over pentagon spending. would defense hawks, like house ar

and if you at his book on mccarthy it's called mccarthy and his enemies it's not in it he doesn't praisehy it's all about the people opposed to him. so it's constantly on the attack. in the book, he says that once we're done with the communists, we're going to go after liberals. we're going to destroy them. so i think that is the what the people around trump would like to do when we're talking about a culture war and when trump refers his political opponents as vermin. i think what you what you' doing is you're you're indicating that you're a you don't just have political opnts. who to be wiped out. so that's a and say the kind of anti mccarthyism right as the then equivalent of anti anti-trump is in which has actually been very successful in which you watch fox news often many of the hosts they never never mention donald trump's name for the last few years. what they do is they bash constantly the people who are against him or against maga against republicans. it's very effect of technique. you know, i want to make sure we have time to get questions from the audience, by the way. so ple

there'll be on board, but this looks very different than what we saw with kevin mccarthy. we're people were coming out and backing this motion to vacate long before they brought it up. and even before it was noticed. so i think it'll be interesting to see how this plays out because we're in a very different, different political time and climate now, than we were back with kevin mccarthy and also remind you that took 22 days between kevin mccarthy being brought, the vote being brought, and actually hiring mike johnson, who really came into the office because nobody knew who he was and it just seems like the easiest way to do this. people were very frustrated at that time. i think this might play out differently than she thinks. well, if he if he to resign next week, that would have been a special elections since he waited there's until april 19, it's now a vacancy until the november general election. it's an r plus 15 seed. that's basically just leaving the seat open on purpose. >> and interesting and democrats joined with republicans during that whole rebellion against kev

they've had it. >> mccarthy. >> donald mccarthy. >> donald mccarthy. >> well, where >> yeah.e to with ben is it's too late to change nothing. whether they change nothing. whether they change their policies whether change their policies or whether they change leader, they are they change the leader, they are going but the problem going to lose. but the problem that party that that the party has is that majority of british public vote is actually supports progressive parties . is actually supports progressive parties. something like two thirds of the of the public does only 3,033% support the right wing parties . and what's now wing parties. and what's now happenedis wing parties. and what's now happened is the two. right. >> where did you get that information from the latest polling. latest polling, polling. what latest polling, who's polling ? who's latest polling? >> the compendium of them. the average labour polling is around 44. the average lib dem is 1,112, the average green is 6, and the average snp and plight is another two. >> but that is a that adds up to around 66. >

representa en washington por kevin mccarthy desde 2007 y hoy pues está eligiendo a su sucesor, carloss con la misma representación republicana, residentes regresan a las urnas para elegir al sucesor de kevin mccarthy. no obstante, la disputa en el distrito número 20 tendrá 2 elecciones primarias. una para elegir al sucesor inmediato de mccarthy, quien deberá asumir hasta enero del 2025 y una elección que determinará al ganador del distrito número 20 para el periodo 20 25 20 27. por qué es importante votar para usted? ah, para que nuestra voz sea escuchada más que nada, y para escoger nuestros candidatos que nosotros decidimos? cuáles nos representan mejor. son 11 los candidatos, los que aspiran a ser el representante del distrito número 20 y sucesor de kevin mccarthy. andy morales es demócrata y es un guardia de seguridad privada. marissa wood es demócrata y maestra republicano y es el jefe del alguacil del condado de tulare. están ellis, republicano, granjero y empresario republicano, representante de la asamblea de california. david giglo, republicano, y ex comerciante kiley quinlan

remember you had kevin mccarthy.nd you wanted to get rid of him and jimmy jordan wasn't good enough and tom emmer and steve scalise. no, you got mike johnson. >> rich: trey, i don't think if they ask you to come back to run for speaker i think that's a no, right? >> i'm so broken up, the tears you see are how much i miss being up there, rich. god, i just miss it so much. >> rich: trey gowdy always a pleasure thank you for joining us tonight. >> you too, rich. thank you. ♪ >> rich: now to news about the prinprincess of wales. the 42-year-old mother of three had not been soon in public since christmas until this week. chief correspondent jonathan hunt has details and reaction tonight. hello, jonathan. >> good evening, rich. after two months of speculation about her health and whereabouts. the princess of wales, sitting alone for a videotaped message delivered the stunning news of her cancer diagnosis which was apparently made following her abdominal surgery in january. >> the surgery was successful; however, tests afte

now mccarthy allies are aiming to knock them off. >> how much you can do it, good voting to oust mccarthy. >> well, it has it has something to do with that, but more important than that, we've got a guy who, who will be a good member of our team, goods opponent, a former navy seal says he was not recruited by mccarthy told cnn, he spoke with the former speaker recently i believe that my opponent wants a bird at all about no solution kind of guy. so would >> you have voted to oust kevin mccarthy >> i would have never in 1 million years partnered with the bot the other party to take out our leader if you are helping the democrat team, take out the republican team, who's the rhino? >> the feud part of a larger battle over the gop's direction while many say they need to govern through bipartisan consensus, hard-liners like good push free, no approach >> i do not want to go no names. january without both goods sitting there in the trenches with me >> let the swamp take out the chairman of our freedom caucus. >> good has also clashed over pentagon spending. would defense hawks like house armed

and he kind of mccarthy kind of looks at.d wright and gwendolyn brooks, james baldwin, as well as writers who aren't really known, such as vincent carter, with this sort of sense of thoughtfulness about the impact of their work within this cold war binary. ralph ellison is not featured in the book, but he does. the specter of it kind of factors pretty heavily in the sort of idea of being underground for having not been seen and how that haunts. the book by the authors own admission, like the reason why these writers are their motivation for the book is this idea of not being seen by the society at large, and this is what's caused them to seek out these individual autonomous mode within the cold war framework. and that is jesse mccarthy's upcoming book, the blue period. black writing in the early cold war. why blue period? it's a reference to miles davis specifically to the sort of fifties work that's leading into kind of blue in this idea that you thin's one thing with miles davis where the brevity of his music is a theoretic

>> i think the new speaker who succeeded mccarthy as a result of mccarthy's inability to get out of the house, the 12 appropriation bills that in time -- congress hasn't produced a budget on time since 1997 and as a result use these continuing resolutions to ensure the government has funded without necessarily having debated budgetary priorities and reset them for the fiscal year. this congress came in house majority, the republican house majority saying they would cut spending and get budgets done on time and failed to do that. mccarthy lost his speakership as a result. it took a while to replace him. they had been doing a series of continuing resolutions. as they announced yesterday, they now have an agreement on half of the bills that are part of the discretionary budget. i think stepping back a little bit, what i think most americans don't understand what congress is debating is a relatively small portion of the federal budget. it is called the discretionary part of the budget. the government is going to spend $6.5 trillion, about 20% of gdp, and they will raise revenues for 17% of

and you also put on your list jesse mccarthy. yes.of english■.nglish ann studies at harvard. a great critic. a great novelist as well. recent wine awd winner for his last book, who will pay reparations on my soul. this is a critical survey, actually, but i don't want to philip short it if we are really smart. our revisionist history that seeks to quarrel with this binary of cold war politics, specifically how it impacted black writers. there's this perception he'so÷ e feeling of being martyred in american culture and then this feeling of being used by soviet communism. an example why the american system is failing. kind of what black writers and individualist path with their esthetics. the title is a reference to h. and the idea that his music was more cerebral, like the parsing and the sort of searching of his notes, the brevity was sort of a reflection of a thought rather than like musical or theoretica. and he kind of mccarthy kind of looks richard wright and gwendolyn brooks, james baldwin, as well as writers who aren't really kno

yp that mccarthy had negotiated put in place. the biggest example of that is the debt and spending deal, the fiscal responsibility act that iated with president biden. it not only lifted the debt ceiling but it also puts spending caps in place that speaker johnson has to abide by as he is negotiating these various spending bills. that is one example. another example is impeachme. speaker mccarthy at that time had moved forward with impeachment. he had essentially unilaterally set those wheels in motion. speakerohhat very difficult issue. about whether to press forward with impeachment or pull back the reins. host: never a dull moment in capitol hill. the are as usual. scott long is with us until the bottom of the hour i already p.m. eastern -- bottom of the hour at 8:30 a.m. eastern last week chuck serme minister benjamin netanyahu. and calls for a new election. what does that mean at this point for u.s.-israel relations and what response have you seen from members of congress since those comments? guest: i was actually at the ho

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kevin mccarthy the former speaker, was on cbs yesterday. this is what he had to say about a motion to vacate the current speaker. >> is when you allow eight republicans to join all of the democrats to determine who c run the house when 96% decide one way, it creates some chaos. we have to move through this, but the country first and then we can move on. speaker johnson is doing the best job he can. it's a difficult situation. the advice i would give to the conference and the speaker's do not be fearful of the motion to vacate. i do not think they can do it again. that was based on matt gaetz trying to stop an ethics complaint. i don't think the democrats would go along with it. focus on the country and focus on the jobs we are supposed to do and actually do it fearlessly. just move forward. host: patrick mchenry, one of your lieutenants said you can either die a speaker and worry about them taking you out or worry every day like it's your last. are you suggesting -- >> no, not at all. i don't believe speaker johnson is afraid all. i don't b