repeating what meadows heard from trump. meadows can give you the direct evidence against trump. i do think that evidence has mounted. as you point out, erin, in florida when he told raffensperger -- we heard that tape today. i just want you to find 11,780 votes. after today, nobody can believe any longer that he thought he had those votes. meadows is very -- is a very important witness. >> thank you all very much. >>> next, the supreme court rejecting trump's request to get involved in the mar-a-lago documents case. trump's former white house attorney will be with me next. >>> what's quickly becoming russia's new weapon of choice, cheap, self-detonating, unmanned, deadly, causing destruction across ukraine. >>> a cnn exclusive tonight. elon musk's satellite internet service starlink, that crucial communication tool for ukraine's military could be pulled from ukraine. this on the heels of musk pushing a pro-putin peace proposal. is it a coincidence? this is the sound of better breathing. fasenra is an add-on treatment for as

how much trouble could mark meadows be in? >> i think mark meadows can be in a lot of -- how would a prosecutor say it or -- there could be a lot of leverage used against him because mark meadows has essentially said in that call, a very polite and not as coarse version of what trump said to raffensperger later, can you find me the x number thousands of votes, come on brad, and it's also a noncrass, noncoarse, potentially defensible version of what donald trump said to his deputy attorney general. just say that it's fraudulent down in georgia. we'll take care of the rest. just say that there's corruption, that there's gambling in the casinos so to speak. the goal here, there's a boiler plate playbook here. the goal is to stall, to cast doubt, and shade, and meadows is helping do that, even though he's been informed of the truth. i think that his call is not as problematic as what donald trump said, however, and that will be tricky for the department of justice. i'm curious to hear what they will say about that because i think

what do meadows and giuliani do? the false slate of electors.just one of the -- i'll add that as a third point of contact for meadows in georgia, and surely should be able to provide some insight into that. >> as we remember from the hearings for january 6th, she was known to be in almost every meeting that meadows was in so she has that insight. you said on the show last week that trump was one of the two most likely people to be indicted in the investigation. how does this news about hutchinson impact your assessment of this? >> the way i think of it is dominoes. cassidy hutchinson can really jeopardize mark meadows and therefore puts a lot of pressure on him to flip. because if he flips then he can avoid criminal liability potentially. and then who's next? but trump himself. so i think that's the way in which this might go. and i think that looks as though what the district attorney is trying to operate under that kind of a scheme. >> it's interesting seeing her agreeing to cooperate, what seems like to be the tail end of this investigation.

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meadows on that call. meadows made a surprises visit to a sga ballot audit site in 2020. she would know the details surrounding that, and of course could have details of all members meadows was involved in and what others were doing in the west wing. >> smabmaybe something we haven heard yet in these hearings. >> exactly. >> and both the georgia process and the doj investigation kind of, you know, taken this beat, because they have to be quiet ahead of elections? >> right. don't want to look like they're doing anything to influence the outcome of an election. even though donald trump is not the person on the ballot in this next election. i think we'll see a quiet period. you know, in georgia, that doesn't mean that they can't be looking over the evidence that they've already collected. we may not see subpoenas flying or dragging witnesses in front of the grand jury but collected so much information from witnesses already. there's nothing to stop them from poring over that and working on reports to be issued and we expect them to wrab up work quickly after the midterms and

i want to go back to the for the beginning and talk about mark meadows.y of state and meadows, his chief of staff, was on the phone. here it is. >> mr. secretary, obviously there is, there are allegations where we believe that not not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted, and that's at odds with the representation from the secretary of state's office. i was hopeful that, you know, in the spirit of cooperation and compromise, is there something that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that's less litigious? >> if you were on fani willis's team in georgia, what would you believe the value of mark meadows' testimony would be? >> well, joy, i've long since said he is the missing piece to connecting donald trump to pretty much everything. not only what's going on in fulton county but everything around january 6th and what happened and took place there. mainly because mark meadows is the one who can talk about what is going on in the office of the president, the mind of the president becaus

mark meadows a lawyer said that he will appeal that decision. trump accepted service of the subpoena that was issued by the january 6th select committee last week the subpoena sets a deadline for donald trump to handle over documents by november 4th, and to appear for an interview with the committee on november 14th. leading off our discussion of these points tonight is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division. and the eastern district of new york, he's a professor of practice at nyu law school. msnbc legal analyst. popular is also with us, professor of law at georgetown university, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. andrew weissmann, let's go first to the question of getting the former white house counsel and deputy white house counsel to answer more questions under oath that they have already answered. and this is now going to require a ruling by a judge because it apparently touches on attorney client privilege, issues of some kind. what is your reaction to what we know so far? >>

did mark meadows a baseline order if he was given one? or did he defies such an order if he was given one? is this one of the many reasons why mark meadows has fought the subpoena to testify to the january 6th committee? why didn't we make more calls. about a supreme court decision! some of the most striking evidence in today's hearing was the video recorded by speaker nancy pelosi's daughter while the congressional leadership was gathered at fort mcnair, two miles from the capitol. >> we have got to get [inaudible] finish proceedings. there has to be some way we can maintain the sense that people have that there is some security or some confidence. that government can function and that we can elect the president of the united states. did we go back into session? >> we go back into session. now, apparently everyone on the floor is putting on tear gas masks to prepare for a reach. i am trying to get more information. >> they're putting on? >> tear gas masks. >> you believe this? >> i'm gonna call the f in security of d.o.d.. >> we have som

meadows. where mr. meadows would ask me, what i was finding, if i was finding anything.emember sharing with him, we were not finding anything that would be sufficient to changing the results in any of the key states. >> when was that conversation? >> probably in november. mid to late november. i think it was before my child was born. >> what was meadows' reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used, there is no there there. >> the allegation did not prove to be true and have to relay the dues that someone told you about those votes or fraud. you know. that is not a fun job. our job as the truth telling squad. it is a easier job to tell the president about environmental issues. it is a harder drop to tell him that was not true. >> what generally was discussed -- i think everyone assessed in the room at least amongst the staff. that it was not sufficient to be outcome determinate. >> it is the right of any candidate to litigate genuine election disputes. nobody argues that. but president trump's litigation was unsuccessful. in our past hearings, utility the

and meadows can speak to various activities that were going on.e could speak to what trump was talking about, to what members of congress were engaging with with the white house. so he offers a broad perspective. >> do you have a sense how trump himself is reacting as yet another potential domino falls? >> this is not actually a case that trump is that focused on because it is anything that it is slightly in the distance is not top of mind for him. he is much more concerned with a bunch of the other cases, particularly not criminal ones. he's foe cucused on the e. jean carol case and the case of the trial of his company in manhattan. >> i want to ask you about an interesting moment on tape, this is a documentary where former president trump is taking blake masters to task, he had moderated in a debate when it came to talking about the election lie and election fraud in arizona. and this is the phone call, and trump is holding up kari lake, who is running for governor in arizona as the model for what masters should do. we don't know exactly when th

mark meadows all the way to cristina bob.n i said before the house oversight committee, i said i know the game that you are playing. i know what you are trying to do. you know why, i wrote the playbook, and it's not going to work out for you the same way it's not working out for me so i'd like to ask mark meadows, whether or not he should have listened? i would ask christina bob or alina hub or any one of these eastman, rudy giuliani, all of them, i just wish that they would have listened -- i wish people would read it because then they would understand exactly what happened to me with the biggest fear that i have is that it will happen to you. you're a critic of donald trump. he does not take lightly to. so his enemies list is quite large. >> let me ask you about the book really quickly, why have you. it's titled revenge and in it, you talk about how the department of justice is basically weaponized against trump critics. how much damage do you think has been done to the department of justice because of donald trump, and is

signal when the judge says, meadows is necessary to the probe?see this ruling. essentially the necessary language is something out of the judge's order when the subpoena is issued out of state. and so it allows for the court in atlanta to issue the subpoena, the prosecutor in atlanta and then for that to be served on a witness who is not within the jurisdiction of this court so is there has to be something moving for that and you saw early on the d.a. did that. in her order said these witnesses were necessary to the case and may have material information so the judge is just tracking that language. i'm not surprised they're going to appeal at all. that's just a game to run out the clock afternoon trying to run it out past the midterms to see if, in fact, you know, there could be some different -- i guess people would place but wouldn't necessarily affect the atlanta investigation here. >> the prosecutors in this case or the grand jury wants to talk to him about that trump/raffensperger phone call. meadows was involved in that in some way in our u

they're meadows get a hit on multiple fronts here and it's release signifies the real fears. there are around a potential recession on the horizon prompted in part by the federal reserve interest rate hikes. now companies are saying, look, we're not gonna spend big on advertising, and that has hit meta that is hit snap. we saw that last week and we saw it hit alphabet yesterday, but it isn't the only issue with meadow. we also saw apple's ios update that hitler ad tracking. and of course there is the competition. tick tock, eating into instagram, eating into facebook, and despite meadow spending big on reels, its own short video service, it hasn't been able to keep a pace. so met is struggling right now in a broader context of tech decline by the looks of it. but what's the implication full met his big bet on the meta verse. that's where it wants the future to be. that's right. to innovate or not to innovate, that might be the question for meta is it may have to reconsider spending billions of dollars on the met averse which isn't on the market yet. and that may be part of th

>> this is a loss for meadows and trump.on county, georgia, a criminal investigation. what's happening here, prosecutors, there's a firewall around trump. certain people very close to trump in the white house after the election, january 6th that just don't want to share what they know with any investigators, whether it's georgia, the federal criminal investigators, or the house select committee. we know that meadows wants to claim privilege here, i'm not answering questions. he's arguing that in georgia the law doesn't apply to him. so prosecutors have to go to court to pick away at that firewall. this is part of that process. this is going through the court, there are other people in georgia who tried to challenge those similar subpoenas they've largely lost. lindsey graham has a challenge appeal at the supreme court right now. as far as meadows goes, what it means for him. does it mean he has to show up? not necessarily he is saying he is going to appeal. but this is part of that process. any investigators looking at janua

meadows where mr. meadows was asking me what i was finding and if i was finding anything. i remember sharing with him we were not finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. >> when was that conversation? >> probably in november -- mid to late november. i think it was before my child was born. >> what was mr. meadows reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used is there is no there there. >> we would come up dry because the allegation proved not to be true and we would have to relay the news that someone told you about those votes or that fraud, nothing came of it. so our drawback -- our job as the truth telling squad was not a fun job. it's an easier job to tell the president about violent allegations. it's harder to be telling him that it's not true. >> what was generally discussed on that topic was whether the fraud, abuse or irregularities, if aggregated, would that be outcome-determinative? i think everyone's assessment in the room, at least among the staff was it was not sufficient to be outcome-determinan

meadows did complete both a call to mr. the evening of th fifth pees and you know what they talked about that evening, misses hutchinson? >>> not sure. i feel like we don't know the full story on the proud boys an oathkeepers. i think that the committee is trying to get to the bottom of what was officials might have enough coordinate with unspoken the proud boys. so what did those relationships look like what were the lines o communication and why were they talking? pees if there is stuff we know we put some of it out. there's more depth that we will be putting up probably within the report in maybe within the next hearings. i think what is important is that he was going through the process of selling that the election was stolen, and then convincing folks that, overlooking if you believe that an election was stolen from you violence is the only answer, quite honestly. i mean, it's kind of the american tradition. if you truly believe that the constitution is being disobeyed every american would actually b on the capitol. >>

your book deals with mark meadows. the portion says, we never received a cdr from mark meadows, but the telephone text he turned over t committee became the rosetta stone for the nuary 6. they provided information, mead identified many aspects t subpoena by -- privilege. he must have sed or uploaded his own data to the cloud or another stagdevice and he and his legal team turned over this extorting number of messages. in doing so, meadows gave us the keys to the kingdom. we called them the crown jewel. if you could explain what cdr is, can you elaborate. guest: [laughter] i tried to ask wayne earlier in the book, those are called detail reppert's -- records. we never got those. we know there were other text messages we did not receive content of because they were under executive privilege. without cdrs, it is hard to tell if we have received all the text as it is. part of what we received is pretty amazing. i do not know what they were giving us or if they had individuals on their legal team who didn't know what they w

meadows where mr. meadows was asking me what i was finding and if i was finding anything, and i remember sharing with him that we were not finding anything, that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. >> when was that conversation? >> probably in november, m i had to late november. i think it was before my child was born. >> and what was mr. meadows' reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used were so there's no there there? >> it would be our job to track it down and come up dry because the allegation didn't prove to be true and we would have to relay the news that yeah, that -- that someone told you about those votes, or that fraud, or you know, nothing came of it. it would be our job as, you know, truth telling squad and, you know, not a fun job to be, you know, it's an easier job to be telling the president about, you know, wild allegations. a harder job to tell him on the back end that yeah, that was not true. >> what was generally discussed on that to

it doesn't get any more important than mark meadows when it comes to witnesses. he initiates it. he says i have the president here, i have secretary raffensperger here. i would want to know all about what conversations happened before that call and after. he was by trump's side throughout the weeks and days leading up to january 6th. >> they're trying to appeal the decision. could he try and hide behind executive privilege? >> he can and he has, but i don't think he'll succeed. i think both of his arkguments will fail. he's arguing because i live in south carolina, they can't force me to testify in the georgia special grand jury. that was rejected by the trial court judge. others have tried it and lost and with respect to executive privilege, wolf, it wouldn't apply to conversations if they had to do with wrong doing or potential criminality. that's really the gist of the d.a.'s argument. >> what about other key witnesses? >> the d.a. has been very aggressive in going after high profile witnesses. not just meadows, but lindsey graham, rudy giuliani, newt gingrich

verdict form as to count 13, meadow pollack. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor that nikolas cruz was previously convicted of another capital felony or a felony involving the use or threat of violence to another person, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, nikolas cruz knowingly created a great risk of death to many persons, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, the first-degree murder of meadow pollack was committed while nikolas cruz was engaged in the commission of a burglary, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor that the first-degree murder of meadow pollack was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has esta

meadows where mr. meadows was asking me what i was finding a nurse i was finding anything. remember sharing with him that we weren't finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. >> when was that conversation? >> probably in november. mid to late november. i think it was more for my child was born. >> what was mr. meadows's reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used to were so there is no there, there. it would be our job to track it down and come out drive because the allegation did not prove to be true. and weed have to relay the news that yeah, that tip that someone told you about those votes or that fraud nothing came of it. it would be our job -- the truth telling squad and not a fun job. it's an easier job telling the president about allegations. it's harder to tell him on the back and that's wasn't true. >> what was generally discussed on that topic was whether the fraud abuse or irregularities -- would that be outcome determinative? and i think everyone's assessment in the room. at least among the staff m

they are -- they're particularly interested in learning what meadows heard and saw during some of thoseecember, 2020 as the former president was trying to figure out way to stay in power despite losing the election, in particular they were trying to come up with ways to prove that there was vote fraud in georgia to be able to turn that election there. that is of keen interest to this grand jury. we know that meadows was on that one phone call where trump was talking to brad raffensperger in georgia trying to find the exact number of votes that he needed to be able to win. in georgia -- he also went down to georgia to sit in on an audit that was happening in one of the counties there. there's plenty of witness that meadows certainly had, and that the grand jury would want to know as part of their investigation before the end of the year. his lawyers have said they're going to appeal this ruling from this judge in south carolina. >> evan, i know you also have new exclusive reporting about how the doj is breaking through trump's wall of presidential privilege claims and delays. it's someth

meadows where mr. meadows was asking me what i was finding and if i was finding anything. i remember sharing with him that we were not finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. >> when was that conversation? >> probably in november, mid to. i am thinking it was before my child was born. >> what was mr. meadows reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used was so that it would be our job to track it down and come up dry because the allegation did not prove to be true. we would have to relate to the news that someone told you about those votes -- nothing came through. it will be our job as the truth telling squad. that is not a fun job. it is an easy adoptive telling the present about allegations, it is harder to be telling him on the back and that is not true. >> what is generally discussed on the topic was whether the fraud, abuse or irregularities -- if aggravated, would that be outcome determined? i think everyone in the room were assured that it was not sufficient to be outcome determined. >> it is the right

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and that's according to the person who kept mark meadows his schedule for him.in the wake of the 2020 election, democratic congressman steve cohen revealed he and another lawmaker saw boebert give a large group a possible reconnaissance tour of the capitol a few days before the attack. something boebert strenuously denied. she said the only people she let around the capitol complex were members of her family. and then there is boebert's behavior on january the 6th itself. less than a week after being sworn in, after vowing on a bible to uphold the constitution, the congresswoman began the day by tweeting, quote, today is 1776. excuse me? feeling very revolutionary that morning, where she, maybe? in the mood for a call to arms along with her morning cup of coffee, perhaps? the afternoon -- as the insurrectionists breached the capitol boebert was publicly sharing nancy pelosi's movements. speaker of the house pelosi second in the presidential line of succession. quote, the speaker has been removed from the chambers. it wasn't just boebert's liberal critics who wer

meadows traveled to georgia after the election. he was on that phone call with state officials when the former president asked them to find 11,780 votes. meadows' lawyer says he is likely to appeal. >>> when we come back on the broadcast tonight, the deadly bridge collapse. construction workers on it at the time. the images coming in at this hour. >>> and later here, the recall tonight. a very popular household cleaner, in a moment. peaceful state. full plate. wait, are you my blind date? dancing crew. trip for two. nail the final interview. buy or lease? masterpiece. inside joke. artichoke. game with doug. brand new mug. come here, kid. gimme a hug. the more you want to do, the more we want to do. boosters designed for covid-19 variants are now available. brought to you by pfizer & biontech. ♪♪ giorgio, look! the peanut butter box is here. ralph, that's the chewy pharmacy box with our flea and tick meds. it's not peanut butter. ♪ the peanut butter box is here ♪ i'm out. pet prescriptions delivered to your door. chewy. you founded

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so, you know, there is an effort here perhaps by meadows and some of the trump allies to run out theether that succeeds or not. >> we will. evan perez, thank you very, very much and we'll have more news right after this. ♪ it's our turn now we'll make it up agagain. ♪ ♪ we'e'll build freelance teams with more agility. ♪ ♪ the oldld way of working is deader than me. ♪ ♪ we'll scale up, and we'll scale down ♪ ♪ before you're six feet underground. ♪ ♪ yes, this is how, this is how we work now. ♪ expedia members can save up to 30% by adding a hotel to a flight. so you can try every - passion fruit? knowing you got a sweet deal. ♪ vo: ferrari knows racing. palantir knows data. bonded by engineering excellence. palantir. data driven enterprise accelerator. >>> in wisconsin tonight, some closure for the families of six people killed by a driver during last year's christmas parade. brian todd is joining us with details. brian, i understand a jury convicted darrell brooks on all counts including six counts of intentional homicide. >> that's right, tonight, the d.a. saying this is a relief tha

the ruling dropping on mark meadows and whether he has to talk to a georgia grand jury. >>> plus new reporting on other members of former president trump's administration, with the d.o.j. asking a federal judge to force one-time white house attorneys to talk to the january 6th grand jury. we're also following some new escalations on the battlefield in ukraine as vladimir putin again repeating those unsupported claims, kyiv is getting ready to detonate a so-called dirty bomb. any news from that, we will have our team standing by and you will hear it here first. i'm hallie jackson coming from orlando where i'm on assignment did w-dasha burns on assignment herself in harrisburg, pennsylvania and shaq brewster, and garrett haake grand junction, colorado, and mark murray is joining us as well. dasha, you have -- what is happening in pennsylvania today? the last 90 minutes, not even, we've seen oz on the campaign trail, not speaking abortion but speaking crime and a debate issue he raised overnight. and abortion is an issue that oz has to play defense on with a new ad highlighting the comm

betraying america on january 6th and a chance to confront lee over text messages he sent to mark meadow, then president trump's chief of staff in the leadup to the attack on the capitol. lee denied doing anything wrong. >> cnn's omar jimenez up all night watching these debates play out. omar what did you see? >> reporter: these, spiriteded to say the least. con tentious second time in a rw in ohio between tim ryan and j.d. vance, felt personal at times. meanwhile in utah, in that race, got indent adam mcmullen against incumbent senator mike lee and it's the only race where democrats didn't field a candidate. so independent is fighting an uphill battle. two crucial senate debates party politics took center stage. in ohio democrat tim ryan and republican j.d. vance debated for a second time in a closer than expected senate race. issue, donald trump's endorsement of vance. >> "new york times," front page, he's kissing my ass he wants my support so bad. >> joking a be a "new york times" story. that's all he was doing. i didn't take offense to it. >> if you can't even stand up for yourself,

but mark meadows is every bit of an officer of the government as you are. >> before we get to mark meadowswill answer that question -- i testified because i was lawfully subpoenaed and i believe i have to respect a lawful subpoena. my goal was to tell the truth. it was not to help president trump, and it was not to hurt president trump. it was simply to tell the truth. if the results -- >> the truth hurt him. >> well, some things i said hurt him. some things i said probably didn't hurt him or maybe even helped him, but at the end of the day people can form their own judgment. >> i appreciate that. you said you get to meadows. >> in the case of mr. meadows i don't know the legality and the difference. i was not in what was considered to be apparently executive privilege conversations. so my lawyers in whom i had a great deal of faith said a subpoena comes, you have to go, unless you get a court order telling you can't appear, if the president wants to go to court and prevent you, that's a different story. >> bannon and lindsey graham don't have executive privilege. >> exactly. and i'm not g

i think cassidy hutchinson could be important if they never get mark meadows in front of the grand jurye could begin to fill in some of the blanks and they may need to rely on people like that if she just hit the point where we're not willing to fight this out in courtney longer. we want to write a report and move ahead with indictments. >> very interesting indeed. we're getting more insight into how the republican leadership tried to whitewash trump's culpability on january 6. michael fanone, who defends the capital that day as a police officer, recorded his meeting with kevin mccarthy last summer. listen to this change. >> he knew what was going. he knew what was going on. they were fighting for hours and hours. you know, just -- >> i don't know that he did know that. >> how revealing of that? >> which version of kevin mccarthy, he said donald trump bears responsibility and he told me that he understands, he donald trump has some responsibility. this recording was made later. and after about that first initial bout of honesty, kevin mccarthy changed his testimony and went into spin mo

meadows and i were in the white house residence at a christmas reception. and as we were walking back from the christmas reception that evening, the president was walking out of the oval office and we crossed paths in the rose garden colonnade. the president was fired up about the supreme court decision. and so i was standing next to mr. meadows, but i had stepped back probably two or three feet catty-cornered, diagonal from him. president raging about the decision and how it's wrong, and why didn't we make more calls, and just this typical anger outburst at this decision. and the president said i think -- so he had said something to the effect of, i don't want people to know we lost, mark. this is embarrassing. figure it out. we need to figure it out. i don't want people to know that we lost. amy: that was former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. coming up, more of thursday's january 6 hearing. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "problem with it" by plains. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. during thur

it was oh, there was a red viburnum in the meadow. friends recorded it all on a smartphone and immediately posted it somewhere on instagram. testifies, shows, says, well, it was a coincidence, we didn't even know it was a ukrainian song, we knew it, we sang it, we thought that now everyone sings like that, well, slava jumped in the same way. in principle, it can be and it turned out that she is not some there, she is some kind of varlamov, or something like that, but she is by her husband, and she herself is palamarchuk palamarchuk, and attention is that our people are everywhere, even when they do not know about it, and they are already ours, because ukrainian is soft strength also zombifies not teeth, what is it called , removes zumbash zombification from the russian language, an interesting phenomenon with a song in a meadow, a red viburnum and how many 100 years has it been, just somewhere this year, it should be in the 14th or 16th century. this song exists, but it was known for the most part in western ukraine it is different th

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meadows attorneys say that he will appeal and so i doubt this is the final word.ularly with the january 6 committee subpoena that he has been trying to fight that again on the grounds of executive privilege. so i suspect the fight will carry on. >> yes, it will keep going. but it is an important step along the way. sara murray, appreciate the update. >>> also just into cnn, the u.s. responding to iran's crackdown on protests to women's rights with a fresh mound of u.s. sanctions. we'll tell you the targets next. look at that turkey! look at that provolone! yep, therere's some things you just gotta see. like those lovebirds over there. (laughing) or this guy...pulling g off business and casual. bizasual. or me, about to steal half of this guy's sub. huh? you better eat it fast, cause i'm comin'. sliced right in front of you. it's a jersey mike's thing. a sub above. science proves your best sleep is vital to your mental, emotional, and physical health. and we know 80% of couples sleep too hot or too cold. introducing the new sleep number climate360 smart bed. the on

meadows where mr.ing and if i was finding anything and i remember sharing with him that we weren't finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. >> when was that conversation? >> probably in november, mid to late november. i think it was before my child was born. >> and what was mr. meadows reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used were so there is no there there? >> it would be our job to track it down and come up dry because the allegation didn't prove to be true and we'd have to, you know, relay the news that yeah, that tip that someone told ya about those votes or that fraud or, you know, nothing came of it. it would be our job as, you know, truth telling squad and, you know, not a fun job, you know, it's an easier job to be telling the president about wild allegations, it's a harder job to tell him that wasn't true. >> what was generally discussed on that topic was whether the fraud, mall administration, abuse if aggrigated would that

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issued today that would force meadows to testify to a grand jury in georgia investigating efforts torturn the 2020 election results there. the fulton county georgia district attorney subpoenaed meadows to learn more about phone calls, meetings and emails he was a part of that pushed unsubstantiated fraud allegations. the d.a.'s office says it has offered several dates in november for meadows to testify. >>> next, 40 straight days of protests in iran. can their messages change the ways of a powerful regime trying to crack down? i will speak next with someone who knows the region well. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss. and if you're taking a multivitamin alone, u may be missing a critical piece. preservision. preservision areds 2 contain the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. "preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies" "and its from the eye experts at bausch and lomb" so, ask your doctor about adding preservision. and fill in a miss

so, what happens here for mark meadows?, mark meadows is an important witness because he was part of that phone call. if you remember, he was on the call where trump was pressuring brad raffensperger in georgia to find exact number of votes that he needed to be able to win the state, which he, of course, did not. he also went down to georgia to look at one of the audits that was happening there. this is why the d.a. down in fulton county wants his testimony. he says, his legal team says they are studying the judge's order in south carolina that he has to comply. but keep in mind the fact that meadows and the trump allies were presenting these fraud claims has already gotten a judge, a federal judge to say that they provided these statements in federal court as well as state court in georgia, knowing that they were false. so, this is one reason why even if he appeals, it looks like he's got a tough road ahead because the grand jury is now expecting his testimony. and this judge, at least in south carolina, says that he has t

cassidy hutchinson, an aid to the chief of staff, mark meadows was present for that conversation and described it in this way. >> this is a day this up in court rejected that case. as we were walking back, they were walking out of the oval office and we crossed paths. the president was fired up about this up in court decision. i was saying i would step back two or three catty corners here. the president was raging about the decision. why don't they make more calls? it is just the typical and re-up bursts at the decision. he sets up into the effect of i don't want people to know we lost. figure it out. please figure it out. i don't want people to know that we lost. >> our country is a country of laws every person including the president must follow the law and respect the judgment of our court. president trump's closest advisers held that view both then and now. >> d believe the president should abide by the ruling of the court? >> we should all buy with the law to the best of our ability. once the court had ruled and electoral college had met, the election was over in your view? >> y

verdict form as to count 13, meadow pollack. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor that nikolas cruz was previously convicted of another capital felony or a felony involving the use or threat of violence to another person. yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor nikolas cruz knowingly created a great risk of death to many persons. yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor the first-degree murder of pollock was committed while nikolas cruz was engage in the commission of a burglary. yes. we the jury unanimously find that state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor that the first-degree murder of meadow pollack was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel. yes. we the jury unanimously find that state has established beyond a r