what is medicaid? guest: medicaid is the health- care program for the poor. it is a state-federal partnerships. the state put in their pot of money for helping this group insurance coverage. the federal government matches money. the government pays quite a bit more than the states do. in some cases, the government pays about 60% of the cost. in other cases, it pays up to 78% of the cost. with medicaid, we're talking about the poorest of the poor folk. we're talking -- it varies from state to state. states run their medicaid programs. they do it differently in every state. kids are covered. the lower-income kids. when it comes to adults, many parents are covered. if you're an adult and you don't have kids, it is difficult and you have to be a very poor to be without kids and i get any kind of coverage. host: we have some statistics. approximately 53 million individuals in this country will be covered by medicaid this year. the federal outlay for medicaid is estimated as $290 billion. guest: people don't realize that medicaid is right there with medicare. we th

what is medicaid? guest: medicaid is the health- care program for the poor.t is a state-federal partnerships. the state put in their pot of money for helping this group insurance coverage. the federal government matches money. the government pays quite a bit more than the states do. in some cases, the government pays about 60% of the cost. in other cases, it pays up to 78% of the cost. with medicaid, we're talking about the poorest of the poor folk. we're talking -- it varies from state to state. states run their medicaid programs. they do it differently in every state. kids are covered. the lower-income kids. when it comes to adults, many parents are covered. if you're an adult and you don't have kids, it is difficult and you have to be a very poor to be without kids and i get any kind of coverage. host: we have some statistics. approximately 53 million individuals in this country will be covered by medicaid this year. the federal outlay for medicaid is estimated as $290 billion. guest: people don't realize that medicaid is right there with medicare. we thin

>> medicare, not medicaid? >> i am sorry. if i said medicaid, this is all medicare. >> the actuary's estimates are just that, they are estimates based on his best judgment. we can look now at facts as they are developing. our intention is to increase access to care for medicare beneficiaries. we are strengthening part a, part b and c indymac and as we go they will be more attracted to beneficiaries. i think they will find themselves in better shape after implementation of this act. >> the senators indicate the order. neck senator rockefeller, senator hatch and senator bingaman and senator bunning. >> thank you mr. chairman. dr. berwick i would like to ask three quick questions in a row. >> senator roberts would like to recognize to make a statement. >> i revise my comments. i certainly don't want you to punt senator rockefeller. i didn't up with that in intelligence committee. i am suffering from cms induced paranoia, so i might have to leave. i hope you can treat that as we go further. did the chairman indicate to the rankin

what is medicaid? guest: medicaid is the health- care program for the poor. it is atate-federal partnerships. the state put in their pot of money for helping this group insurance coverage. the federal government matches money. the governmentays quite a bit more than the states do. in some cases, the government pays about 60% of the cost. in other cases, it pays up to 78% of the cost. with medicaid, we're talking about the poorest of the poor folk. we're talking -- it vars from state to state. states run their medicaid programs. they do it differently in every state. kids are covered. the lower-income kids. when it comes to adults, many parents are covered. if you're an adult and you don't have kids, it is difficult and you have to be a very poor to be without kids and i get any kind of coverag host: we have some statistics. approximately 53 million individuals in this country will be covered by medicaid this year. the federal outlay for medicaid is estimated as $290 billion. guest: people don't realize that medicaid is right there with medicare. we think of m

>> between social security and medicare and medicaid there is $106 trillion of unfunded liability andot one dime saved to pay for them and my children, who are in their 20s, know social security is a ponzi scheme and medicaid, we think we can save substantial dollars for the federal government and states if they allows us to implement the program, for instance, $30 billion a year, between the state and the federal government for one year of medicaid in the state of texas. we think we can cut that substantially, help our colleagues in washington, d.c. balance the budget up there and substantially help us with our budgetary issues here. if they'll just trust the states, to do what the states and our founding fathers actually foresaw was letting the states be the laboratories of innovation. >> chris: would you do the same with social security? would you end social security as a federal program? >> let us work on medicaid first and while we're doing that, they can have a discussion on how to put our social security program on better and more solid footing. >> chris: you know, when you say

>> medicare not medicaid? >> i'm sorry if i said medicaid, this is all medicare. >> yes. the actuaries estimates are just that. they are estimates. based on his best judgment what we can look now as facts as they are developing. our intention is to increase access to care for medicare beneficiaries, strengthening part a, part b, and c and d. i think those will be more attractive to beneficiaries. i think they'll find themselves in better shape after this act is fully engaged. >> thanks, senator. i would like the information of the senators indicate the order. next senator rockefeller, then senator hatch. senator rockefeller. >> thank you, mr. chairman. dr. berwick, i would like to ask three quick questions in a row. >> he's going to recognize. he's not going to make a statement. >> i revise my comments. i certainly don't want you to punt, senator rockefeller, i did enough of that in the intelligence committee. i'm suffering from c.m.s.-induced paranoia so i'm going to have to leave. i hope you can feed that as we go further. did the chairman indicate to the ranking member

block granting the federal government's medicaid dollars back to us.and we think we can get goes to that. that is $9 billion of savings ? >>> instead of giving americans what they want, democratic leaders plan to use the last few days of lawmakers expect to spend in washington this year focusing on everything except preventing this tax hike which will cost us even more jobs. >> chris: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell warning democrats about lame plans for the lame duck session of congress. and it is time now for our sunday group. bill kristol of the weekly standard. a.b. stoddard of the hill newspaper. kevin matthew a republican strategist who was mitt romney's spokesman during his presidential campaign and fox news analyst juan williams. so something happened in washington this week that i have never seen before. the president invited congressional leaders over to the white house for dinner and a talk about the next two years and the gop leaders said know, we can't fit it into our schedule. mow about the week after thanksgiving. what is going

block granting the federal government's medicaid dollars back to us.ut that in half and we think we can get goes to that. that is $9 billion of savings ? [ male announcer ] don't let aches and pains in the morning slow you down. introducing bayer am. its dual-action formula delivers extra strength pain relief, plus it fightsatigue. so get up and get going with new bayer am, the morning pain reliever. so get up and get going with new bayer am, funny how nature just knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxidants. refreshingly good. >>> instead of giving americans what they want, democratic leaders plan to use the last few days of lawmakers expect to spend in washington this year focusing on everything except preventing this tax hike which will cost us even more jobs. >> chris: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell warning democrats about lame plans for the lame duck session of congress. and it is time now for our sunday group.

medicaid, reimbursement to private doctors is minimal, for medicaid patients, let's say one -- if yousee doctors see more medicaid patients, we talked about for the reform all the time. make sure, creates incentives, and in other words create for the reform for doctors that see medicaid patients, if i see a medicaid patient i don't want to think for 12 or $15 for a primary care visit i can get sued for millions of dollars over a frivolous lawsuit. create for the reform that protects doctors that see federally insured patients, that is a good answer for you. bill: back to the debate we had during the health care thing, we'll watch the hearing and back and forth of berwick, too, on record as praising the british health care system. and that is something check grassley and others have said, we need answers on that. he was appointed, recess appointment in july, the first time we're getting questions about what is happening with hip and where he intends to go. watch that, here and now. martha. martha: he has gone from a person of interest to now the lead suspect in the killing of his wife,

and the large percentage of it is also medicaid. it's essentially that you don't think because of the health care -- health bill, there's a whole lot of places to go in the health area that will adjust those numbers. is that what you are saying? there's an opportunity to the health area where most of the issues were taken off of the table. >> if we leave medicaid structured the way it is now, unmanaged fee-for-service care, it is unlikely you can ring significant savings out of it. without adopting measures that will slow down the growth of health care spending across the entire system. namely, across the private sector as well. because there would be too great of disparity between payment levels in medicare versus the rest of the health sector. and that would have undesirable consequences for medicare beneficiaries if access became a problem. because physicians and other providers didn't want to serve medicare patients, or if through government regulations, you required access to be preserved, but providers then shifted their medic

medicaid expenses are said to be the 800 pound gorilla. last year federal dollars help make ends meet, but those funds are gone. now that legislators have details on how bad things are, they will soon turn their attention on finding sources of revenue. governor o'malley has already said his next budget will not contain a new tax. some believe the next legislative session will see an increase in the alcohol tax. opinion polls indicate broad support for raising it as much as 10 cents. it would generate $240 million. senate leaders have long advocated an income increase in the increase in gasoline tax. state budget experts say teacher retirement costs are up by $75 million. the governor established a commission looking into ways to cut costs. law made -- lawmakers want to ship expenses to local governments. >> lawmakers are expected to reveal some of their bouncing ideas december 16. david collins, wbal-tv 11 news. >> an investigator says to people have been found dead inside of burned out of a body shop parke. cruz said took about an hour to

block granting for federal government medicaid dollars back to us. cut that in half and we think we can get goes to that. that is $9 billion of saving tion for the federal government. $6 billion of savings right there for the state of texas. we have done this before, chris. i greatly respect your focus on our put and wha budget and wha. we are not going to raise taxes. we are going to reduce spending and i will tell you at the end of the day texas will be better off and texans will be better off as we will continue to lead the nation in the creation of jobs and wealth and this country will be better off from it. >> chris: running out of time but there are a couple of other issues i want to talk to you about kind of a lightning round of quick questions and quick answers. in your book you criticize not only republicans but democrats. the big government under the administration of george w. bush and you say his compassionate conservativism was a near complete capitulation to the welfare state. >> well, look, president bush will go down as a great presid

with the passage of this plan it will swell by 52,000 more people on medicaid. put that in perspective teen now and 2019 for my state the additional cost for my taxpayers without regard continue on medical services will be about 100 . >> as we look at this -- 100 million dollars. >> as we look at this health care mandate you are looking at a billion dollars in south carolina. this is a great opportunity to have a conversation with washington and say rather than mandating health care, let us incentivize small businesses let us pass tort reform and go to a -- let us reform our medicaid system. >> aspects of the health care plan are good the financial burden is going to be huge on all states. it can not afford that and cannot afford to have the federal government telling to purchase and examine you don't, there will be a penalty. -- >> we are going to repeal it as long as president obama is president because he will veto it. we can chip an wearing improve it, change it and in 2013 we can get rid of it. >> greta: a senator slams another senator. senator lamar alexan

and so the senator has carried a bill that will enable us, if someone has medicaid, to use those medicaid dollars to increase the number of in-home hours that person has so that we can use those federal dollars instead of hospitalization, instead of long-term care here, in the home. our goal is that the person always has the choice as to what is the best setting for them. with that, should we do it all together? >> i have a resolution. this is my district. senator leno is an interloper. it is ok, because he is going to bring us a lot of money. together, we want to make this presentation to the executive director, the new head of laguna honda. i have known her for years. she is small in size, but she carries a wallop. thank you very much. [applause]

journal" isabel sawhill on researching social security, medicare and medicaid. daniel goure and amy harder on the latest federal regulations. we begin with a look at the morning headlines and your calls. host: stories about holiday shopping and black friday dominate the headlines. spending never felt so good as shoppers kicked off by targeting bargains at stores opening around the clock. "atlanta journal-constitution" good sales, good signs. driven by bargains and optimism. in "the boston globe" optimism weighs in on black friday. the economy's highway recovery hampered holiday shopping. welcome to the "washington journal." we begin with a discussion about planning more or less holiday spending based on your personal economy and economy of the country. 202-7 202-737-0002. 202-737-0001. 202-628-0205. e-mail journal@c-span.org. or twitter.com/c-span wj. whether you are planning more spending. this is the "wall street journal" lead story. shoppers came out in force on black friday in a signal that american consumers were slowly becoming comfortable spending again b

69% said don't cut medicaid. which is more important, reducing benefits in social security ji 78% say don't cut social security's in these three area, medicare, medicaid, social security the overwhelming majority of americans say don't touch it. >> well i don't know if -- i don't know if they're saying don't touch it. i think they're saying, for people who are on medicare or in social security or depending on medicaid today, let's keep the promises we've made to seniors. keep the promises we've made to people -- >> what about people approaching? >> keep the promises for people near the age of retirement. i've said many times i believe personally we ought to draw the line at the age of 40. anyone over the age of 40, we'll keep you in the same deal you've been promised in social security and medicare all of your life, but for americans under the age of 40, i believe it's absolutely imperative in addition to taking strong steps to put our fiscal house in order on the domestic side, it's absolutely imperative that we

it was medicaid and education money.edicaid money is flexible because you basically withdraw the money you had planned to spend. new substitute for the federal money and it becomes entirely flexible for the state. that is quite a bit of flexible money. of course, i've got another extension of $16 billion, which pushes the total up to about $150 billion at the end of the year. we are seeing a cliff at the end of fiscal 2011 that will be pretty significant. i came to talk about the downturn in terms of -- really, it was so deep and so broad that it will send repercussions throughout state government for virtually a decade. we know from all the previous downturns that the biggest impact on states is generally one, too, and three years after the recession is declared over. -- one, two, and three years after the recession is declared over. as i remember, we declared it over in june of 2009. it is normally very, very bad because that is when you get the explosion of medicaid. over the three-year time frame it will be up about

elliss and i are offering a premium support plan and medicaid. we think one of the glaring problems in this plan, it doesn't touch health care, health care reform and that's why the democrat for the institution, former clinton director, vice chair, she and i are offering a plan that-- the health benefit plan for future medicare retirees and offering that. >> paul: i'm old enough congressman to remember the last time the republicans tried to block grant medicaid 1990's after the republicans took over and congress in 1994. they did it in 1995 and tried to make major changes m medicare and president clinton just killed the republicans with it, campaigning in 1996. and that whole effort stopped. so, what makes you think you can do that this time and succeed? >> unfortunately, i'm old enough to remember that as well. and so, i was there at that time, too, and not necessarily in this capacity and look, you know what makes a difference? this debt crisis is right around the corner, paul and we had according to gao, as of yesterday. 88.6 unfunded liabilit

and the large percentage of it is also medicaid. it's essentially that you don't think because of the health care -- health bill, there's a whole lot of places to go in the health area that will adjust those numbers. is that what you are saying? there's an opportunity to the health area where most of the issues were taken off of the table. >> if we leave medicaid structured the way it is now, unmanaged fee-for-service care, it is unlikely you can ring significant savings out of it. without adopting measures that will slow down the growth of health care spending across the entire system. namely, across the private sector as well. because there would be too great of disparity between payment levels in medicare versus the rest of the health sector. and that would have undesirable consequences for medicare beneficiaries if access became a problem. because physicians and other providers didn't want to serve medicare patients, or if through government regulations, you required access to be preserved, but providers then shifted their medic

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time had you to prove you were a citizen by way of documentation in order to be enrolled in the medicaid program. i would take exception to your statement i have not been in a leadership position. ways the chairman of the health subcommittee of energy and demears had the jurisdiction over programs such as medicaid. i oversaw major reforms in our health care industry and our health care programs all across this country. and i think if you will take to someone who's been involved in those, they will tell you exactly that. >> thank you very much. next question from orlando montoya. >> would i like to address a question to all of you if i can. i would like to see how you your numbers add up. i would like to hear how your numbers add up. how do we get to a balanced budget? who gets cut? where is the money coming from? >> which one? >> let's start with mr. monds perhaps. >> well, one thing when you talk about free markets is the fact that you don't know how it's going to play out. that's what free markets are. but the best way to do it is create an environment -- that's what i've talked about.

guest: let's focus on medicaid. there was a lot of mythology with respect to what's in this legislation. you have the opponents of health care saying there's going to be a $500 billion cutback in the medicare program and it's an attempt to scare seniors to make them feel they're going to lose benefits, they could be paying more. and quite the opposite is true. first, let's talk about what the benefits are in this legislation for seniors. seniors many of whom take multiple medsance, they fall in this big coverage gap that we you've mistically call the do nut hole. that is going to come to an end. now, already those people who have fall into the do nut hole this year received $250 checks to help them pay for their prescription drugs. come january 1, their prescriptions are going to have a 50% discount. so that's going to be very helpful. ultimately, in 2020 there will be no do nut hole whatsoever. so the first thing seniors get out of this legislation is that this big gap in coverage which has been getting wider with

it expands medicaid by 16 million people. medicaid is already stretched to the limit. it really is actually not serving the current 50 or so million that are on the program very well. the network of if i have significancesnd -- physicians and hospitals that actually take medicare patients is very con strained and this new law is going to put a huge new number of people into the program without really any panel to take care of them. -- ability to take care of them. the second entitlement is everybody between the income of 133% and 400% of the poverty line is now entitled to premium discounts if they get their insurance through what it called the exchanges. this is a huge number of people. the number of census bureau says that the number of people between 133 and 400% of the federal poverty line is about 111 million people below the age of 65. so potentially, this is hamas i have, massive -- massive, massive new entitlement option. cbo's new estimate determined 20% will end up in the entitlement, but that could be off on a magnitude of two or three. that all depends on w

16 million more people into medicaid. so that is going to be a pretty significant drain. i probably differ with a lot of the cost assessments that are bandied around in terms of spending. even if you accept those, one thing that is pretty much true is that over the last decade, we had revenue growth of about 6.5%. a lot of that is due to the consumers leveraging up the whole economy. when they did that, we got good sales tax and other revenue. going forward, my sense is we are in the 4% range, rather than the 6.5% range on revenues. it will be much more difficult to support medicaid. i think they're really caught in a bind between revenue growth, medicaid, trying to pay back pensions. i just do not think it is doable. one of two things will happen. they have to make huge cuts in education infrastructure, which will have a long run impact on productivity, competitiveness, and economic growth, or the federal government has to come back, as they did in 2002, 2008, 2009, and bail the states out. thank you. >> well, with that

it expands medicaid by 60 million people. medicaid is stretched to limit. it is not serving the 50 million who are on the program for a while. the network of physicians and hospitals that cn take care of medicaid patients is constrained. this program -- new law will put a huge number of people in the program without any ability to take care of them. the second entitlement is everybody between the income of [unintelligible] this is a huge number of people. the number of -- the census bureau said the number of people between the that is 100 million people. this is a massive new expansion. the official estimate liches 20 million in this entitlement, that could be off by two or three. that depends on whether the employer based system stays intact and employers are finding new ways to get lower words workers into the exchanges. he will have a massive new entitlement in the exchanges and lots of similar workers with the same income still in the system getting on the order of three, four, five, $6,000 of support. you have a huge disequilibrium. lots of people assu

it expands medicaid by 60 million people. medicaid is already stretched to the limit, and it is not serving the 50 million on the program very well. the network of doctors and hospitals that take care of medicaid patients is very strange. this program and this new law will put a huge number of people in the program without an ility to take care of them. the second entitlement is everyone between the income of 133,000 -- just above the poverty line and is entitled to premium discounts if they get their insurance through the exchanges. this is a huge number of people. the number people but to win this percentage is about 111 million people below the age of 65. potentially this is a massive new entitlement expansion. the cbo official estimate is en route terms 20 million, but got -- but that could be off of a magnitude of two or three. that is if the employer-based system stays intact. this would create huge in equities. we would have a massive new entitlement in the exchanges, and lots of similar workers with the same wages get

someone has to run the nursing home essentially and dealing with medicaid. that is very complicated. >> get back to the medicaid. you talked about this. i love the fact that you are very open in your book. you say people look at -- for those of you under 50 stay with us for a second. l.a. law was a great hit. you could not put anything up against that in the time slot it was on. and you played stewart and ann, the married lawyers and it was hot. you were the hot couple on this team. and everybody assumes they had such a hit they must be rich and this money must be making tons of interest and they can pay and do whatever they need for their mother. >> that show was over in 1994. that's the truth of it. >> we did make a lot of money on the show and that was great. and we did have enough money earning interest that we could do this brilliant retirement dream of italy and new york and working the theater in new york and make a little money there. we had just enough money to do that and then this happened and now we don't have enough money. >> and i remember you

the hospital will repay money it received from medicaid and medicare to unnecessary stents implanted in 2008 and 2009. those procedures were done by dr. mark midei. he is a former st. joseph doctor and former partner of the mid- atlantic cardiovascular associates. several of his patients joined together to file a lawsuit against him in january. the suit expanded to include more than 100 patients. last month the doctor broke his silence, denying allegations. >> they were treated appropriately and with the highest regard for their well- being. i am confident in everything that i have done. >> his attorneys say the hospital was looking for a scapegoat as it tried to handle the series of problems, including a federal investigation into medicaid fraud. the doctor filed his own lawsuit against the hospital and its parent company, seeking $60 million in compensatory damages. that suit remains unsettled. we want to make it clear the hospital is admitting no liability, and says the settlement resolves an ongoing civil investigation. coverage continues online at wbaltv.com. >>> did ravens star

medicaid, a known as known as accchs. arizona lawmakers asked it to identify possible spending cuts. ac acccsh that provided insurance companies that provided them with data that helped push costs onto patients used as a supposedly nonbiased source of information. the other company gave them false information about transplants. specifically that bone marrow transplants never work, liver transplants rarely work. so the republican-controlled legislature saved just under $5 million by no longer paying for them. no more transplants for plan key as, lungs, some heart transplants, livers for hepatitis c, bone marrow. it did not matter that arizona would give up $15 million in matching federal funds by cutting that $5 million. it did not matter that the head of arizona's largest adult bone marrow transplant program could have told them his bone marrow patients have a 42% survival rate. it did not matter that a 2007 memo warned that without the transplants, quote, the number of hospitalizations and other expensive very intentions

it expands medicaid by 60 million people. medicaid is stretched to limit. it is not serving the 50 million who are on the program for a while. the network of physicians and hospitals that cn take care of medicaid patients is constrained. this program -- new law will put a huge number of people in the program without any ability to take care of them. the second entitlement is everybody between the income of 133% [unintelligible] -- is now entitled to premium discounts through exchanges. this is a huge number of people. the number of -- the census bureau said the number of people between the that is 100 million people. this is a massive new expansion. the official estimate liches 20 million in this entitlement, that could be off by two or three. that depends on whether the employer based system stays intact and employers are finding new ways to get lower words workers into the exchanges. he will have a massive new entitlement in the exchanges and lots of similar workers with the same income still in the system getting on the order of three, four, five, $6,000

about the deficit commission's draft this is something i'm critical of, they do almost nothing on medicaidand medicare. which you know are the big cost drivers in the budget. why aren't they touching those two programs? >> because the administration didn't want them to touch it. i don't think the president's commissioners were gonna go after his health care law. alice rivlin and you are offering a premium support plan. we think one of the problems in this plan it doesn't touch health care that's why alice a democrat, former clinton omb director she and you are offering a plan, goes to a premium support system not unlike the federal employee health benefit plan west are going to be offering that. >> paul: i'm old enough to remember the last time the republicans tried to block grant medicaid in the 90s after republicans took over congress in 1994. they did it in '95 tried to make major changes in medicare. president clinton kill the republicans with it, campaigning in 1996. that whole effort stopped. what makes you think you can do that this time and succeed? >> unfortunately, i'm old enough

and for spending on state programs like medicaid which also was sort of what i would say is in therewith us if you'll for reasons i will explain in a little while. they also worked to change the mechanics of government in many places so that i'm doing the spending became harder and harder and harder. let's talk about some of their maneuvers. and their victories which there are remarkable seminaries around the country, and that's no accident. one extreme is successful area for them has been health care, which is nominally private but really increasingly is a public sector industry in america today, and is going to become more so. in the 1990s, for instance, many states began looking for ways to cut down on growing nursing home costs that they were paying for under medicaid. one strategy was to use more at home care rather than expensive institutional care. in california, service employees international union's initiate a long legal effort to have these workers who were independent contractors declared a government employees. when the courts finally agree, the union think that local po

. >>> states faced with huge budget shortfalls are now forced to consider cut medicaid. might they actually end that federal health program for the poor? that's coming up. jenna: president obama faces a new gop majority on capitol hill, republicans gear town run against him in the next election and he could even face a democratic primary challenge in 2012. james rosen is live in washington with this story. james, a number of the most likely democratic challengers to president obama have already ruled out running against him. is that the case? >> that's true but scenarios like this, whenever they do come to pass always begin as preposterous, unspeakable heresies but they have quoted a damaging primary challenge for president obama is not unthinkable. the two figures seen as the most likely -- likely if not necessarily objectively likely are senator russ feingold of wisconsin who cron ceded defeat and said it's on to 2012 and former vermont governor howard dean who thought the obama health care law not revolutionary and urged senators to vote against it. the last to face a

we can't have social security, medicare and medicaid grow at 5%, 6% and 7% and the economy grow at 1.5%. you just can't do it. >> congressman, i'm just trying to -- >> when you say cut, cut is misleading, you have to bend the growth curve so they don't grow as fast. not one penny of these programs is cut. >> congressman, i'm trying to apply your constitutional amendment which set a firm cap on spending and i'm trying to apply it to this year's budget so the public can understand it. you have just said you're not cutting social security, if i heard you right. >> right, i have put -- >> did i hear you right? >> i have co-sponsored a plan along with paul wright, you can read it on the internet, road map for america's future. what i'm trying to do here and i wish we would adopt this constitutional amendment because it would hasten the opportunity to reform programs that have been important to my parents and grand parents but will bankrupt my children. >> i want to ask you a simple question, sir, you said you would not cut a penny from social security, did i hear you light? >> yes, you don't

you would have the innovation we are talking about that can't happen as long as medicare and medicaid. >> thank you both for making my point. >> that's what we are here for, for you wayne. >> coming up, giving breaks to those who break the law? california offering college tuition discounts to illegal immigrants. >> taxpayers are ponying up the cash. >>> president obama holding a news conference, lisbon, portugal so site. nato summit. >> the president: i think my fellow leaders for the of common purpose. more more than 60 years nato has proven itself as the most successful alliance in history. defended the independence and freedom of its member. it has nurtured young democracies and welcomed them into europe. that is whole and free. it has acted to end ethnic cleansing, beyond our borders. today we stand united in afghanistan. see terrorists who threaten us all have no safe haven so the afghan people can forge a more hopeful future. at no time during these past six decades, was our success guaranteed. indeed there have been many times when skeptics have predicted the end of this allian

schools, medicaid, prison, what it was all about and we could have eliminated everything else at allnment and would have only saved 9%. look i'm not suggesting we grind up all the sacred cows of federal programs into hamburger but neither can we spend more than we take in. if we don't raise the retirement age for social security and maybe offer one-time tax free buyouts for those who would rather live on their own retirement income than reign in run away costs of medicare we'll have to take a rosetta stone cars in mandarin so we can speak the language of our new chinese bankers who own our debt and might soon own us. we shouldn't take the recommendations of the debts panel without question. but, neither can we continue to provide and all you can eat government buffet for the price of a small order of fries. would you tell us swift action, we'll go from the land of the free and home of the brave, to the land of the enslaved and the home of the broke. [applause]. >> mike: that's my view, i welcome yours. contact me at mikehuckabee.com and click on the fox news feedback section to offer

schools medicaids, prison. what it was about. we could have eliminated everything else in all of state government and only saved 9%. look, i'm not suggesting that we lined up all the sacred cows programs in hamburger, but we don't raise the amount for social security and one time tax bailouts for those who would rather live on their own retirement income than rein in the cost of medicare and we are going to have to take a rose rosetta course in mandarin, and we-- we can no longer provide an all you can eat government buffet for the price of a small order of fries. we'll go from the land of the free and the home of the brave to the land of the enslaved and home of the broke. that's my view and i welcome yours. mike huckabee, look on the fox news feedback section and offer your comments. nancy pelosi's party took a beating in congress losing more than 60 seats to republicans in the mid term elections and yet, the outgoing speaker refuses to let loose of the tiller. and she's facing criticism. why won't she back down. we're happy to

the ruling authorities of miscarriages of justice that date back to the war being drawn between medicaid and the yellow house case the alleged murder and harvesting of organs of serbian war prisoners by members of the cause of a liberation army but there is insufficient evidence to bring that case because my husband was taken just after the war and despite civilians haven't been promised security regardless of ethnicity he never came back the families of kidnapped and killed people in course of a have been fighting the raw tape in the u.n. mission in kosovo and n.g.o.s for a long time but so far without any results i think the biggest problem is that those who are killing on kidnapping people in concert have changed their soldiers uniforms for the peace they gained power overnight would. international institutions these are the faces some of the people that are still missing from the war and the focus today is really on whether kosovo is up to fighting organized crime but there are still so many he said clearly because pieces of the surface are closer. a respected doctor a blogger and hu

focused on the private clinic medicaid. the indictment relating to the medical cases currently with the pristina district court. we're waiting. confirmation hearing what we can say is that the two indictments were filed on fifteen twenty five october and there are five defendants charged with very various. organized crime illegal trafficking of all guns and misuse of public office there are also charges of wrong full use of the medical profession. although it's not yet officially been made public the indictment has been leaks the group are accused of removing the organs of people's poor they have been persuaded by the lure of money being offered around twenty thousand dollars for a kidney part of the leaked documents seen by a dirty also reveals that many of these people were never paid r.t. discovered the two days he's been indicted and have been working at medicaid before it closed and now working at a private clinic medical just next door to the place they're accused of having performed the illegal operations so we went