the postmaster general by the way, megan brennan, she began her career in the postal service as a letterarrier in lancaster, pennsylvania. she is, as a personal story, one of the post office's most successful personal stories climbing that ladder. but her appointment is controlled by a board. >> right. >> the president does appoint the people to that board. so if president trump has said to her in these meetings, if you don't get this done, if you don't persuade them to raise the rates, i will replace enough of them to get rid of you. then we're in criminal territory. >> well, and he can do that because there are seven vacancies now on the postal board of governors, which determines what this kind of step child of an agency -- it's sort of like amtrak. it's not a conventional agency of government, the u.s. postal service. but the board of governors, when he names new members, they can vote her out and then, you know, go to work on maybe trying to break the contract that amazon has with the postal service, which by the way, the postal service makes money on. when trump says they lose mone