now, deborah doesn't know megan wright, megan wright doesn't know deborah. we've checked deborah's cell phone from inception. it's never called megan wright before. so 11:57 that night, 25 minutes, 30 minutes after jersey is off of work, it calls megan wright's cell phone. 15 minutes after that, two independent witnesses, a husband and wife couple driving, identify an individual who has characteristics similar to jersey, okay. this individual, jersey, carrying a baby with a diaper on. at 2:00 we see this grainy gas station video of an individual -- >> some of you are viewers may be familiar with. we'll show it to you again. there's a man that you can see on the side that we've shown there, right, that's what you're referring to, correct? >> and the police and fbi have looked at it. it's a man going from the gas station into a wooded area. within the vicinity of that gas station, a dumpster is put on fire at about 2:15, 2:30 a.m. in the dumpster they recover some burnt clothes. those burnt clothes, by the way, they show to deborah bradley, lisa's mom, during

by this megan wright or her phone. megyn: so if deborah bradley's phone could megan wright on the night the baby went missing, according to the phone records, it was the first time it had ever been done on that phone. >> as my sources tell me, as you say, i know it sounds repetitive, but it is so important we get this correct was was we drill down to highlight every little thing, it's so important. so to put it bluntly, if this call was dialed for the first time and we have jeremy and we have deborah saying they don't know who megan is, and we have megan saying she doesn't know who deborah or jeremy is, then who knows who here? megyn: that begs the question, who dialed that phone at 11:57 p.m. on the night the babe went missing. was it this homeless guy, jersey, who was picked up by the police on other charges? they say they've moved on from him, but they won't say they've cleared him. was it hem? because he does have a connection to megan wright. >> he absolutely does. and the connection is on again/off again boyfrien

now we learn it was almost midnight that deborah bradley's phone called megan wright's phone.hat does it tell us. >> it's actually information that starts fitting into the timeline a little tighter. as we saw when deborah actually changed her timeline on your interview from 10:30, or 2230 at night to 1840, or 6:40 in the evening when she last saw the baby, now she's showing that she wants to distance herself from that 10:30 known call. now deborah's phone, it made a phone call. i don't care what deborah bradley, or jeremy irwin says that you continue make phone calls. it made a phone call. let's just get beyond that. megyn: it either made one or attempted one. >> either way it actually reached out to another cellphone and made contact. so at that point here we have that as being a fact. now if it was at 11:57, or 2357 hours that night, just before midnight, that means that this is the period of time that deborah bradley now says that she was blacked out. so she doesn't remember what she does. she doesn't remember what she did. so there is a very good chance that she made the p

indicated made to megan wright's phone. how does that help the irvin family and the theory of the parents doing something or an outsider doing something. >> i am not sure it helps either side either way. we still don't know if the call was made by debra bradly, if she misdialed and got megan wright by accident. if they didn't say anything. i don't know how that would go down exactly. but 23:57. is a tighter time frame, you know that means that the suspect came in and kidnapped the child and came through the winnow and found the cell phone and within 60 minutes made a phone call. it seems a little tight. she came in at 10:30. and 11:57. if we have a suspect involved here things are happening pretty fast and i don't see how that helps debra bradly. >> what about the idea that someone tried to acess the voice mail. >> that is ridiculous about the phone call going to the person. who would call someone they don't know? it doesn't make sense at all. and the person. the megan white person is the ex-girlfriend of the person who was

11:57, she makes a call to megan wright, why? never before has had her cell phone called that number. what do you think would have happened? >> i don't know what happened. i don't know if she dialed, misdialed a number. we must remember she admits she was drunk. you're not going to get sober in one hour. she was drunk, blind drunk, blackout drunk. so we don't know what she was doing. but she was dialing her phone. if she was dialing her phone and she dialed the wrong number, then who tries to get a stolen cell phone's voicemail? we have a suspect, and he's trying to get the voicemail of the person that he just stole the baby and the phone from? for what purpose? megyn: well, what if it was this guy jersey who dated megan wrieg, and he breaks into the house and steals the baby, steals the cell phone, tries to call megan wright, sitting in a nearby abandoned house with the baby, and he decides to try to check the voicemail that megan wright called back? >> that's a quantum leap. let's just remember this, jersey has been cleared. i

but neither one of them is good for megan wright or jersey. bottom line is it ties them in closer to bradley, to bradley and her daughter, or -- either in a drug scenario, or missing child scenario, or in some way, shape or form. none of it is good, but it certainly makes them the top suspects at this point. megyn: yeah, you've you've go you've got some ask yourself, why would megan wright say she didn't have her phone, when the roommate said, of course we did, we didn't share phones. why would she say it's a shared phone if it wasn't. >> suspicious behavior, the same as the mom, it makes you wonder what is going on behind the scenes. megyn: we are no closer to answer answers today. >> i think we are closer. megyn: i hope you're right. joe paterno canceled a press conference, the heat is being turned up and the lead investigator is here. a video that is going viral online. it shows an older woman who fell or was knocked to the ground during a rowdy occupy d.c. protest on last friday night. you can clearly see there is a scuffle but you can't r

from deborah bradley's phone attempt today this woman, megan wright. the family defense attorneys come out and say we checked automatic records for a year prior -- all the records for a year prior. deborah bradley's phone, jeremy irwin's phone had never called that number before. therefore, they say, the evidence suggests strongly it was an intruder who made that 11:57 p.m. phone call at the same time he was making that baby, and now you say your investigation tells you that megan wright only had that phone and that phone number for a month prior to the baby's disappearance? >> i was told yesterday afternoon by members of the household where megan wright lived that night that they thought that she may have only had that phone for about a month and a half, maybe two months when she first moved into the home. i've reached out to megan wright, she doesn't have a phone right now, and so i reached out to her by e-mail last night and again this morning trying to confirm that. we don't know for sure yet, but we're looking at that possibility. megyn: ron, do y

debra doesn't know megan wright. we have checked the cell phone records from inception.d that cell phone ever before. so 11:57 that night, 25, 30 minutes after jersey is off work he called megan wright's cell phone. 15 minutes after that, two independent witnesses, a husband and wife couple, driving identify an individual who has characteristics similar to jersey. this individual jersey, carrying a baby with a diaper on. at 2:00 we see this grainy gas station video. >> some of our viewers may be familiar with. there is a man that we have shown. that's what you are referring to. >> and police and fbi look at it. it is a man going from a gas station to a wood area. within the vicinity of that gas station a dumpster is put on fire at 2:15, 2:30 a.m. in the dumpster they recover burned clothes. the burned clothes they show to debra bradley, lisa's mom during the interrogation of her. that spot, by the way, that the green dumpster we are looking at, a month earlier, megan wright's car was set on fire there, the day after she broke up with jersey. not far from that location at

debra doesn't know megan wright. we have checked the cell phone records from inception. before. so 11:57 that night, 25, 30 minutes after jersey is off work he called megan wright's cell phone. 15 minutes after that, two independent witnesses, a husband and wife couple, driving identify an individual who has characteristics similar to jersey. this individual jersey, carrying a baby with a diaper on. at 2:00 we see this grainy gas station video. >> some of our viewers may be familiar with. there is a man that we have shown. that's what you are referring to. >> and police and fbi look at it. it is a man going from a gas station to a wood area. within the vicinity of that gas station a dumpster is put on fire at 2:15, 2:30 a.m. in the dumpster they recover burned clothes. the burned clothes they show to debra bradley, lisa's mom during the interrogation of her. that spot, by the way, that the green dumpster we are looking at, a month earlier, megan wright's car was set on fire there, the day after she broke up with jersey. not far from that location at 4:10 a.m., a third in

this megan wright says i don't know them. know why they'd be calling me, but i have a community phone, i live in a house with seven other random people and it could have been made to any one of them. what is going on here? >> you know, megyn you talk about a bizarre twist, already a very bizarre story. a lot of stuff is discernible through electronics. put aside what people say and act. the fact of the matter is that either phones are working or not working. sometimes phones can allow you to call out for a 911 call for an emergency. they are not going to let you squeeze out a 50-second call to some member of the community. megyn: they will not allow that. >> that's very easily discernible. the other thing this woman receiving, or someone in her home, one of the eight people, including her, receiving the call, you know, it could also be the police can identify where that phone was. maybe not in the house but they could say was it in the house or down the street because of the cell towers. the same thing with the call that was

they do know the person called megan wright's phone. police took her cell a questioned her. in october she told "good morning america" she never took that call and when she got the phone back the call log was deleted. a drifter named dane, said dane seemed agitated and had easy access to drugs. >> covering up something for a friend. >> reporter: now the private investigator said this new lead supports his client's innocence but police say, so far, this is one of 1,000 tips they've been chasing. they want to talk to dane. they say he is not a suspect. >>> thanks a lot. >>> police in washington state have a new development in the missing of a 2-year-old. he has been missing for more than a week. he was last seen with his mother. so far, she has refused to cooperate. meanwhile, there's an online dating profile. it matches so-called sugar daddies with mommies with sugar babies. on it a personnelled jb said she is looking for financial stability and assistant. the site's owner said there's no way to determine if the profile was created by the child's mother. according to the site

megan wright doesn't know deb.rlfriend. >> the police insisted they have been following through on those and other leads. >> i hope they have been. they're honing in repeatedly on this poor mother. >> joe, thank you very much as always, for being willing to come and talk to us. appreciate that. >>> let's get to sam and the weather. >> good morning, everyone. fingers are flying in the deep south. and not everyone is happy about this. 13 states with freeze or frost watches or warnings. in atlanta, you hit the door and it's like what? 26 degrees. jacksonville, 24, as well. jackson, mississippi, at 31 this morning. this is a real big shot of cold air and it goes all the way into south florida. it doesn't last for days and days and days. there's a warmup behind it. this morning, you better bundle up when you step out into the south. it's going to hit you fast. chicago, by the time you get into sunday, you're part of an arcing warm air. you got to the freezing mark. dallas will be 83 by sunday. atlanta, 70 degrees by sun

megan wright doesn't know deb.lfriend. >> the police insisted they have been following through on those and other leads. >> i hope they have been. they're honing in repeatedly on this poor mother. >> joe, thank you very much as always, for being willing to come and talk to us. appreciate that. >>> let's get to sam and the weather. >> good morning, everyone. fingers are flying in the deep south. and not everyone is happy about this. 13 states with freeze or frost watches or warnings. in atlanta, you hit the door and it's like what? 26 degrees. jacksonville, 24, as well. jackson, mississippi, at 31 this morning. this is a real big shot of cold air and it goes all the way into south florida. it doesn't last for days and days and days. there's a warmup behind it. this morning, you better bundle up when you step out into the south. it's going to hit you fast. chicago, by the time you get into sunday, you're part of an arcing warm air. you got to the freezing mark. dallas will be 83 by sunday. atlanta, 70 degrees by sund

they have no connection to megan wright. megan wright confirms that. take it for what it's worth.hey tell us at 3:17, and 3:22am attempted phone calls were made to try to check deborah's voice mail on the phone, all this when the phone has never left a one-third of a mile, one fifth of a mile radius much their home. mark fuhrman came on and said it increases the suspicion on them, where do you fall. >> i agree with fuhrman on that one. i don't see how it helps. who other than the mother or the owner of the phone would be checking her voice mail? she would be the one who would know what is likely to be on her voice mail, that's number one. number two, somebody who takes a child is not going to linger around the area where they took the child for hours, in order to do what? that doesn't make any sense. the call itself is very suspicious. there are a lot of unanswered questions that spin from that including the very questionable calls to the voice mail. the police have said that there is apparently a suspect this guy named dane, not a suspect. megyn: not a suspect. >> a person of int

this pink-haired gallon named megan wright, she claims she received a call horn cellphone the night thent missing. the time has been reported differently, from 8:15, to 2:30am that same night. it's information what the time was but they don't know for sure. she says the cops are telling her it happened. she said it went to my voice mail. i share the phone with seven other people who are in the house with me, one of which is jersey, a homeless guy arrested and in custody on unrelated charges. the f.b.i. have now confiscate they'd phone. they are clearly interested in the phone. what is going on with that? >> well, megyn, here is -- let's deal with the facts that we can absolutely say exist. the phone call was made. so the phone was able to make an outbound call. that is a fact. whether deborah bradley didn't think that it was, or not, it doesn't make any difference. it was made. so that's one fact. the second fact is that all the cellphone records, and the phone, and the address book in the phone are going to be looked at. if that phone number for miss wright was in deborah bradley's pho

he is linked to being in the home of megan wright, where that phone call went to at 11:57.our contention that whoever took baby lisa made that phone call when they took the phones. megan wright has claimed she didn't have her phone that night, this dane individual was identified as a person in possession of her phone, so much of the investigation is centered around finding him. evidently, he was out of the kansas city area on a hunting trip and just recently returned. from what i've read, the reporter from kansas city went to his parents' home, interviewed his father on the porch and supposedly had some contact via texts with some individual who purported to be dane. megyn: yeah. we just don't know, we don't believe he received a phone call if calls couldn't be made. john, i want to hold you over the break, and when we come back, i want to ask you about whether the parents are talking to the police and what discussions you've had with the plus on that -- police on that. that's right after this break. thank you so much. megyn: john picerno, the irwin family local attorney, j

apparently that call was to a woman named megan wright.ho says she doesn't know the irwins at all, never heard of them. his zaps mother says she was already asleep by then and that her phones disappeared the same time that lisa did. the family's lawyer says that phone call shows that the parents had nothing to do with it. of course, the mom also told fox news that she got drunk off boxed wine that night and may have blacked out for some unknown period of time. a federal prosecutor giving a harsh warning to parents about what he called a disturbing alternative to chicken post office pox vaccines. facebook groups asking infected children to lick lollipops and sending those to other kids across the country in hopes that those kids will build immunity. the prosecutor says it's a very bad idea for several reasons. first, it's illegal to mail a virus or disease anywhere. plus, tampering with consumer products is against the law. not to mention the health risk. and there are many. a doctor for federal centers for disease control and prevention sa

now, initially, police say the phone call was made to this woman megan wright now wright's former roommate only as deign. he confirmed he received the phone call just before midnight on october 3rd. still, he will not say whether he answered the call or who was on the other line. that's an important detail. the sat and act cheating scandal in long island is growing by the day. the "new york post" says three more high schools being implicated with three students paying people to take the test for them for $3,500. they join at least three other schools believed to be involved. at least six students and three paid surrogates already under suspicion. all right. those are your headlines at this hour. >> thanks so much. check in with rick who is outside in the brisk weather. actually not that cold today. >> what are you guys eating for breakfast? >> friday macaroni and cheese. >> sounds like that is milk, maybe? >> it's milk. >> take a look at the maps. temperatures as you are waking up very cold. 1 degree in rapid city and take a look at video out of this area. major snow falling yesterday the

megan wright. they confiscated her cell and questioned her several times. "gma," she never took that call. when she got her phone back the next morning, the call log had been deleted. >> i don't know who answered or what was said or who was on the other end of the phone. >> reporter: now, this man is claiming to know who did answer that call. a drifter named dane. >> every time i was up, i saw him on the phone, hunched in the corner. being very secretive. >> reporter: the man also seemed dane seemed agitated that night. and had a history of drug abuse and easy access to guns. >> i would say dane did not do anything to that baby. but as for him covering up something for a friend, that's a whole different story. >> reporter: the family's attorney says the new lead supports his client's innocence. a suspicious drifter. call placed after deborah bradley went to sleep. >> this is hopefully going to give them some answers and put to rest the notion that deborah had anything to do with lisa's disappearance. that phone number that was dialed from deborah's cell pho

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