barra, is brooke melton included in general motors' death count? yes or no? >> to my knowledge, no. >> no? >> it was a side impact. >> her death has not been counted. it means like it doesn't matter. >> reporter: ken melton still keeps his daughter's number in his cell phone, something for him to hold on to. >> are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> any amount of money? >> right. >> it's not about the money. >> reporter: general motors hired former u.s. attorney anton voluckas to do an internal investigation and ken and beth melton will keep fighting. >> brooke's worth it. whatever it takes. if it took the next 20 years, knowing the truth for her, it's certainly worth it. >> poppy harlow, cnn, mir marietta, georgia. >>> many people paused to remember the crackdown in at this enna men square. >>> world leaders and elderly vets are preparing to get together on friday to observe the 70th anniversary of d day. bulldog: [yawning] it's finally morning! i can't wait to get to mattress discounters because the tempur-pedic bonus ev

that it wasn't her fault. >> reporter: it was here that georgia state patrol says brook melton's 2005droplaned on a rainy evening. the car spun out and was struck by another vehicle, then dropped 15 feet into this creek. the accident report says melton was driving too fast for roadway conditions, causing her to lose control of the vehicle. >> she was driving 58 and the speed limit was 55. do you believe that that could have caused the accident? >> no, i believe she lost power. >> reporter: brook's parents blame general motors. it's now known the ignition switch on her cobalt was defective. this analysis of the car's data recorder provided by their attorney shows the switch was in the accessory position at the time of the crash, shutting the engine off and disabling the air bags, power steering and antilock brakes. >> we bleaelieve the evidence i overwhelming the defects in this key system resulted in her death. >> reporter: gm would not comment. the defect led gm to recall 2.6 million cars. but before the recall, the melons settled their case with gm for an undisclosed amount. now the

. >> reporter: but those words aren't enough to the parents of brooke melton, who died driving a 2005hevy cobalt on her 29th birthday. >> i kept thinking that this is not possible. it's her birthday. it can't -- this can't have happened that she died. >> when i touched her hand it was cold. i knew in my heart and gut there was something wrong with the car. that it wasn't her fault. >> reporter: it was here that goode state pa prol says brooke molten's 2005 chevrolet cobalt hydroplaned on a rainy evening four years ago. the car spun out and was struck by another vehicle and dropped 15 feet into this creek. the accident report says melton was driving too fast for roadway conditions, causing her to lose control of the vehicle. >> he was driving 58 and the speed limit was 55. do you believe that that could have caused the accident? >> no. i believe that she lost power. >> reporter: it's now known the ignition switch on her cobalt was defective. this analysis of the data report shows the switch was in the accessory position at the time of the crash shutting the engine off and disabling the

to recall 2.6 million cars but before the recalls, the meltons settled their case with g.m.isclosed amount. now they are fighting an uphill battle to reopen. >> it they thought they had the truth when they settled their case. we now know they had some of the truth but not all of the truth. >> reporter: in a new lawsuit, the meltons allege g.m. hid key documents from them and say a g.m. engineer lied in a sworn deposition. >> design release engineer for the ignition switch in the '05 company but. >> yes, i was. >> reporter: the meltons 'attorney gave part of his deposition who denied approving any changes to the ignition switch. >> there was never a work order that i saw outlining this experience. >> any such change was made, it was made without your knowledge and authorization? >> that's correct. >> reporter: in 2006, he signed this form authorizing a fix to the ignition switch. making it harder to turn inadvertently. >> the subcommittee will come to order. >> reporter: g.m.'s ceo was questioned by congress about this. >> you know that he lied under oath. >> the data has bee

. >> reporter: those words aren't enough to the parents of brooke melton. >> i kept thinking, this isossible. it's her birthday. it can't -- this can't have happened that she died. >> when i touched her hand it was cold. i knew -- i knew in my hand and gut there was something wrong with the car. that it wasn't her fault. >> reporter: it was here that georgia state patrol says brooke melton's 2005 chevrolet cobalt hydroplaned on a rainy evening four years ago. the car spun out and was struck by another vehicle. then dropped 15 feet into this creek. the accident report says melton was driving too fast for roadway conditions, causing her to lose control of the vehicle. >> she was driving 58 and the speed limit was 55. >> reporter: do you believe that could have caused the accident? >> no. i believe that she lost power. >> reporter: it's now known the ignition switch on her cobalt was defective. this analysis of the car's data recorder provided by the melton's attorney shows the switch was in the accessory position at the time of the crash. shutting the engine off and disabling the air ba

my next guests are beth and ken melton.ke's death four years ago and the investigation that followed is credited with forcing gm to acknowledge those faulty ignition switches. how surprising is it for the two of you to sit and hear that in 2002 a gentleman with 36 years of gm experience under his belt, an individual who ran the so-called quality audit, warned the entire board of these defective automobiles? >> michael, we're always very grateful when any employee of the general motors corporation stands tall and comes forward with the truth. this also shines light on the fact that gm as a corporate culture wantonly ignored safety issues, even when alerted by their own employees. >> there was something he said, which was breathtaking. i'd like to just play a brief tape and have you respond to it. roll that if you would. >> if that had been corrected in '98, if we had done a thorough check of all our procedures and found out how safety defects were getting through, none of this would have happened. it's pretty simple. >> mr.

among those eager to hear the result, ken and beth melton. their daughter, brooke, died in a car crash. they are family says it was the result of a faulty ignition switch on her 2005 chevy cobalt. they settled initial claims against the company but asked to reopen the case, saying gm hid evidence from them. >> they're playing with numbers, that they don't count brooke's death, and she's dead because of that ignition switch. >> are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> reporter: any amount of money? >> right. >> it's not about the money. >> so, general motors denies the allegation that it hid evidence. the investigation is expected to exonerate the current ceo, mary barra, who has repeatedly said she had no knowledge of the faulty switches until she took the top job earlier this year. she did hold several senior jobs before this top job, so the fact that it exonerates here is of importance. >> and her entire career has been spent at general motors. >> yes. >> so, a lot of the attention has been on mary barra.

lance you represent the meltons.ter brooke melton was killed in a chevy cobalt which had a faulty ignition switch. have you had a chance to talk with ken feinberg as he's been putting to the this plan? and what are you expecting to hear today? >> yes, i've had a few conversations with mr. feinberg. what we're expecting, obviously, is a plan to come out. we're hopeful it's not the final plan, that there will continue to be discussions in order to, as miss barra said, get gm to do get the right thing for all of the victims of these recalled vehicles. >> do you have any idea in terms of parameters for the dollar amount for those fatalities that are linked to these faulty ignition switches? are we talking 5 million? 10 million? what is it you're expecting that he's going to say. >> well, initially, the question is going to be the scope of the vehicles. my concern is the conversations i've had. gm is tying mr. feinberg's hands. and they're only going to allow him to consider less than half of the recalled vehicles as part

among those eager to hear the result, ken and beth melton. their daughter, brooke, died in a car accident. her family says it was a result of a faulty ignition switch on her 2005 chevy cobalt. they settled their initial claims against the company but have asked to reopen the case, saying that gm hid evidence from them. >> they're playing with numbers. they don't count brooke's death, and she's dead because of that ignition switch. >> reporter: are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> reporter: any amount of money? >> right. >> it's not about the money. >> gm denies the allegation it hid evidence. the investigation is expected to exonerate current ceo mary barra, who has repeatedly said she had no knowledge of the faulty switches until she took the top job earlier this year. she's worked at gm a long time, senior positions. >> her entire career. but people say gm is a company full of silos and it is possible that safety could have been separate from engineering and other parts of the country. the recall came

but the whole theory of perfect market markets that adam smith and the melton friedman and all of these people who think the markets were perfect, totally ignored. so the idea was that markets where people have different information where some people know more than others, where markets work imperfectly are fundamentally different from this world that they had described where there was perfect information. you know, worlds with perfect information, there wouldn't be any discrimination. there wouldn't be any of the monopolies, you know, those kinds of perfections are not part of the world that we live in. and so what my research did is to help clarify, with other people's research, helped clarify why our economy doesn't work quite so smoothly as the advocates of free markets have claimed. why we had a crisis in 2008. you know, that's not the way market economies are supposed to operate. why it is, you know, the basic law of economics is you have supply and demand. law of supply and demand. there's not supposed to be unemployment. yet we have 20 million americans who would like a full-tim

surveillance video shows the man police say is melton garcia grabbing that 26 year old victim and forcing her into a building. that's where police say garcia raped her and then stole her keys and cell phone. detectives found that cell phone and garcia south philadelphia home at eighth and moore. >> the victim's phone gave us an indication to that neighborhood but not to that specific location. as a result the investigators then began their pretty extraordinary work and narrowed down the scope and actually targeted a residence at had location. >> reporter: federal authorities say garcia is an illegal immigrant who been kicked out of the u.s. a year ago. >> as we head tore the midweek, things are about to get unsettled outside. we're tracking storms that are going to hit tomorrow. let's check in with meteorologist kathy orr much she's got more on the when and where now. kathy? right now it is mild and it's increasingly muggy, chris. 74 in philadelphia. after a high of 86 today. in allentown 75. cooler down the shore with temperatures in the 70s. the poconos pretty comfortable. the temperatu

whole sequence, from the time the company learned of a potential difference in the parts during the melton litigation, during the time the recalls were announced, ten months, miss barra? why the footdrag? is this typical of gm's investigations into a product concerned? and how do you intend to change this? >> well, we already have. the way we're working through recalls today. we've changed that process. expedited, most senior levels of the company are involved in. we're doing what's right for our customers and we're demonstrating that today. >> thank you, i yield back. >> i should ask a clarifying question. with regards to the words "cover-up" can you define what cover-up means, mr. valukas? >> in this instance, what we looked for was any evidence that people took steps and knew that they had a safety issue. that's what we refer to as a cover-up. and we sought to test those facts against the documents we were reviewing. so if someone knew something on a given day, we identify that and we reveal steps to whether they concealed that. >> does your definition also include if people slow-walked

if not for the brooke melton lawsuit and she was killed and her lawyers found out her ignition switch from model year 2008 was different from model years 2005, '06 and '07 in the cobalt, would we know about this switch problem today? would we be aware of it? >> the answer is yes because the -- there was an open and, at that point, significant investigation going on at that particular point. certainly, there was information and evidence that was accumulating as they were going forward pointing to the fact they had non-deployments and fatality. >> that's a big cover up to me. after general motors learned of the change, it took months to confirm there had been a change. why did this take so long? >> i don't have a good answer for that. i can tell you it did take that long, from the time of april, 2013 when that deposition took place, they knew or should have known or knew at that point they had two different switches. they gave it to the expert and he came back with his confirmation of what they were given in april. that took until almost october. >> yeah, it's amazing. when the issue wa

someone needs to investigate this and see why. >> reporter: the parents of brooke melton say they hopeeir daughter's death can help prevent others. >> the only way i know to overcome the pain and make the pain less is to do something positive like this. and try to strive for doing something positive for someone else. >> reporter: ford says it would move quickly if it thought the data indicated the safety recall was needed. but it does not recognize the methodology used for the top 15 list. as for the government, nhtsa continues to claim it has a good track record for spotting deflects. despite the criticism, it's failed to do so again and again. >> brian, thank you so much. if you want to go to goodmorningamerica.com, and we'll tell you where to find the 15 warning watch list. >>> and coming up, smoothies, are they really good for you? how many calories, you won't believe it. >>> and a woman gets a huge surprise from her boyfriend, in a commercial during the world cup. we're going to talk to them live, next. thit's not the "limit yoursh hard earned cash back" card . it's not the "confu

melton joins me now. looking at all of those statistics, should people be worried about this?> they should, because there is a lot of negative implications as a consequence. it means we'll have trouble meeting our pension obligations, particularly social security, and fewer hands and minds will make it harder for our economy to grow. >> but there are some solutions that are out there, right? let's look at some of the solutions for the aging work force. specifically talk about ibm as a model for this. >> what we need to do is find a way to substitute for our shortage hands and minds. one of the ways nations can do this, and the united states certainly has this opportunity is to try to generate longer careers for people, and a lot of individual firms have actually started to experiment with this. ibm as you bring up, is a perfect example. what they have done is they offer workers 60 years and over to leave the department they are in, and go to an internal consulting group. they are given the chance to work fewer hours at lower way, and they kind of do troubleshooting around the

we spent this week talking to beth and ken melton who lost their daughter brooke melton in a crash theytion switch defect. listen to what they told me. >> i would gladly give my last breath just to hug her and tell her i loved her one more time. just one more time. >> i kept thinking that this is not possible. it's her birthday. it can't. this can't have happened that she died. >> when i touched her hand, it was cold. i knew in my heart and my gut there was something wrong with the car, that it wasn't her fault. >> reporter: brooke melton is not counted on gm's list of 13 victims. there are a lot of other families out there like this. they want some answers and we will see if we get more answers today. >> what am i missing here? poppy, thank you for digging into the families and getting us to understand that perspective because that is what matters most here. what am i missing? this company is looking into itself. how is that the solution? i know they had to pay a fine and it was a $35 million fine. if we want to say it's meaningless there is proof because the street who measures this,

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that's what happened to brooke melton where she's driving down the highway on her 29th birthday, i go anything stops, the car loses power, she goes into the other lane and she's killed. do you know about that case? >> i certainly do. >> and so yet the gm engineer said that this was a convenience issue. right? >> they not only said it internally, they said it publicly when they were interviewed by the press. they said this is our position that a stall does not constitute a safety issue and that -- >> that is just insane, isn't it? >> i won't use the word insane, but i'm troubled by that. >> okay. good. now, at the same time, gm was talking to nhtsa about whether stalling was a safety risk. are you aware of that? >> i'm aware there were those conversations for all this period of time. >> ms. barra, were you aware that at the same time nhtsa was talking to gm in june 2004 that general motors recalled 15,000 b because of stalling risks? >> i was not involved in that area. >> so you're not aware of that. >> gay kent sie sign that had notice. did gay kent every express any concern to you ab

he was hired by a trial attorney representing the estate of brook melton, one of the victims of the whole, 29-year-old young woman. and mark hood's sleuthing in junk yards allowed him to solve what had gone on here because he compared different parts that had the same number but were different in configuration. bottom line for me is that this case speaks to the power of individuals and the effect that individuals can have on our lives both for good and for bad. you remember that original headline, gm fires 15 employees over recall failures? what i would have written, the power of one. the next headline is from "the los angeles times." donald sterling to drop fight to keep clippers and allow sale to ballmer. the clippers owner you know made those racist statements about magic johnson is now saying i'll allow the sale to go forward. why wouldn't he? he bought the team for $12 million. he's about to sell the team for $2 billion. that's four times the record that was paid. the milwaukee bucks just sold for only $550 million. you know, sports economists say they can't justify, they can't ratio

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that's what happened to brooke melton where she's driving down the highway on her 29th birthday, i go anything stops, the car loses power, she goes into the other lane and she's killed. do you know about that case? >> i certainly do. >> and so yet the gm engineer said that this was a convenience issue. right? >> they not only said it internally, they said it publicly when they were interviewed by the press. they said this is our position that a stall does not constitute a safety issue and that -- >> that is just insane, isn't it? >> i won't use the word insane, but i'm troubled by that. >> okay. good. now, at the same time, gm was talking to nhtsa about whether stalling was a safety risk. are you aware of that? >> i'm aware there were those conversations for all this period of time. >> ms. barra, were you aware that at the same time nhtsa was talking to gm in june 2004 that general motors recalled 15,000 b because of stalling risks? >> i was not involved in that area. >> so you're not aware of that. >> gay kent sie sign that had notice. did gay kent every express any concern to you ab

the power steering, the brakes, the air bags, that's what happened to brook melton where she's driving down the highway in georgia on her 29th birthday and the ignition stops. the car loses power, she goes into the other lane and she's killed. do you know about that case? >> i know about that case, i certainly do. >> and so, yet, the gm engineer said that this was a convenience issue, right? >> they not only said it internally they said it publicly when they were interviewed by the press. they said, this is our position. a stall does not constitute a safety issue. >> that's just insane, isn't it? >> it is -- i won't use the word insane but i'm troubled by that. >> okay, good. now, at the same time, gm was talking to nitsa about whether stalling was a safety risk. are you aware of 245? >> i'm aware of conversations for all this period of time. >> mr. barra, were you aware that at the same time nitsa was talking to gm in 2004, general motors recalled cars because of stalling risks? >> i was not involved in thatiary. >> so you're not aware of that? >> now. -- the notice was signed and was

whole sequence, from the time the company learned of a potential difference in the parts during the melton litigation, during the time the recalls were announced, ten months, miss barra? why the footdrag? is this typical of gm's investigations into a product concerned? and how do you intend to change this? >> well, we already have. the way we're working through recalls today. we've changed that process. expedited, most senior levels of the company are involved in. we're doing what's right for our customers and we're demonstrating that today. >> thank you, i yield back. >> i should ask a clarifying question. with regards to the words "cover-up" can you define what cover-up means, mr. valukas? >> in this instance, what we looked for was any evidence that people took steps and knew that they had a safety issue. that's what we refer to as a cover-up. and we sought to test those facts against the documents we were reviewing. so if someone knew something on a given day, we identify that and we reveal steps to whether they concealed that. >> does your definition also include if people slow-walked

if not for the book milton melton -- the brooke lawsuit, from my district, the 11th congressional district of georgia -- if not for that ,awsuit, and she was killed, and the fact that her lawyers figured out the ignition switch evenifferent, would we know about this ignition switch problem today? would we even be aware of it? is yes.nswer there was an open and at that point significant investigation going on at that particular point. informationhere was and evidence accumulating as they were going forward, pointing to non-deployments, et al. it is, and that the switch had something to do with it all stop >> that smacks of a big cover-up to me. after general motors learned of this change, it took months for gm outside experts to confirm. why did this take so long? good answerhave a for that. i can tell you it did take that long. i can tell you that from the time of april 2013, when that deposition took place -- they knew at that point that they had two different switches. they gave it to mr. milani, the expert. expert.ilotti, the until october.ok >> when the decision was made in december, n