that's what the residents of bunkerville and mesquite and moapa valley want. the conservative media and the republican elected officials who spoke out calling cliven bundy a hero when in fact his comments are anything but, and we want the armed militia to know that we want you to leave. that's what the residents told me today. the neighbors of cliven bundy told me that they want their community back, that they want it to be back to normal, and that this doesn't reflect our community. and these people are not here to solve local land use problems. they have come with an agenda. and that agenda doesn't belong in mesquite, in bunkerville, in moapa, or any place in nevada. >> when you are talking to your constituents and when you're traveling to the different in your geographically very, very large district. when you talk to other people in the line of work, same line of work as mr. bundy, when you talk to other people who are using big tracts of land, whether they're ranchers or farmers or any other kind of large land use employed in that way, are you hearing sym

if some person robbed a convenience store and he went into mesquite, mesquite, nevada, the police would pick him up as fast as they could. if he went into arizona, went across the boards into utah, they could chase that guy down, no matter if they had to chase him here to new york. but here was 200 armed with heavy weapons and 100 cars and they disappeared like they went into a tunnel and it was okay. >> right, right. hey, mr. bundy, we're going to have to leave it there. we have senator rand paul on standby right now. we're going to go to him in a second. thank you to rancher cliven bundy. from the great state of kentucky senator rand paul. thank you for joining us. hats up for the first 2016 potential candidate to weigh in on the bundy ranch. when you hear senator harry reid, say, call the bundy family ver side you're on whatsoever, is there any reason to call americans domestic terrorists? >> no, i think what we should all be calling for is for calmer heads to prevail. i don't want to see violence on either side. there is a legitimate constitutional question here about whether the st

>> well, many people in bunkerville and the surrounding area and in the valley and mesquite feel terrorizeded militia groups, they are not from our community, they are not from nevada. they are coming here and they actually have set up kind of a military police state where individuals who live in the community have to go through their check point in order to get to their house. we have -- >> you have check points set up from this militia? >> the militia groups set up their own check points so people who live there actually have to go through those check points to get to their home. i met with people who told me their kids can't walk around the corner from their house to their school because there's armed militia in the hills. they tried to go to church on sunday and there were armed militia around the church because cliven bundy was there. they want them to leave so that our community can go back to normal. >> so what's happening with local law enforcement? there still are police out there, right. there are check points, i mean the cops can do something about that, can't they? >> this is pa

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. >> reporter: it alarms residents from the neighboring town of mesquite. >> he's a free-loading rancher. some call him a welfare cowboy. i tend to agree with that. >> reporter: what's unclear is what the federal government will do next, go after bundy's cattle or go after bundy himself. the bureau of land management has said, quote, this is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public land renters do every year. the bundy family has lived here since the 19th century and say this is their land regardless of what federal laws and courts say. >> my family came in here with a covered wagon and pulled it with a team of horses. they've always been in the cow business and the farm -- the agriculture, the irrigated land. that's part of the ranch. >> reporter: as for cliven bundy's supporters, they set up camp and say they'll stay here months or years, however it takes for the government to back off. al jazeera, bunker hill, southern nevada. >>> another hot topic in that part of the country is immigration. th

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. >> it has alarmed residents from the neighbors town of mesquite. >> yeah, he is a free loading rancherple call him a welfare cowboy, i tend to agree with that. >> what with is unclear is what the federal government will do next, go after bundy's cattle or go after bundy himself? the bureau of lang mindment says this is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that he continues to not comply with with the same laws that 16,000 public land rancher dozen every year. the bundy family has lived here since is the 19th century and says this is their land regardless of what federal laws say is. my family came in here with a covered wagon, they have also been in the cow business, and the farm -- agricultural the irrigated land that's part of the ranch. as for supporters they have set up camp, and say they will stay here months or years, however long it takes for the government to back off. al jazeera, southern nevada. >> a new word from nasa, we may not be alone in the university. they have discovered another planet earth. astronomers say they found a planet with qualities an

. >> it has alarmed residents from the neighbors town of mesquite. >> yeah, he is a free loading ranchereople call him a welfare cowboy, i tend to agree with that. >> what is unclear is what the federal government will do next, go after bundy's cattle or go after bundy himself. the bureau of land management has said this is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that cliveen bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public land rancher dozen every year. the bundy family has lived here since the 19th century and say ises this is their land regardless of what courts say is. >> my family come in here with a covered wagon and pulled with a team of horses they have always been in the cow business, and the farm -- agriculture, the irrigated land that's part of the ranch. >> as for cliveen bundy supporters they have set up camp, and say they will stay here months of years however long it takes, for the government to back off. toronto mayor rob ford kicked off his re-election campaign tonight. i shouldn't be laugh ping. after 11 months ago, that there was

they backed down, they run, they got on the freeway and went to mesquite and grabbed their stuff and ran out of the state, towards the state of utah. utah county sheriff finished this job. take the guns away from these federal burrocrats. >> is your stance this is state land and they have no authority to be there? >> they have no authority. >> all right. let me ask you what happened to the county commissioner. you had a county commissioner that literally called after a commissioner in utah said that ranchers were going to go out there in support of solidarity to you and called them inbreds and he hopes they made their funeral plans. whatever happened to him? >> well, you know, we had a mandate for the county commissioners. we said tear down those toll stations in these parts. we've already paid for these parts, don't be charging us again and we gave the county commissioners the charge to tear them down with your bulldozers. >> aman, let me ask you, go ahead, sir, finish your point. >> well, i haven't heard from the county commissioners and the media hasn't reported back. i don't know

>> there is, yes, there is and if you drive to mesquite on i-15 and look at the top of the mesa you will snipers positioned at the top of the mesa overlooking their compound, quote, quote, supposedly protecting the compound. >> right, and there have been -- >> go ahead. this has the markings of a ds a disaster. >> it is scary to have guns on you for no reason. >> the government doesn't have more important things to do than fight for land that they don't even own. >> right. >> well, exactly right. i mean, our freedoms are on the edge of being taken away from us and when they are gone, we won't be able to get them back. >> all right, guys. we have our crew out there tonight, and we're going to have much more on this story and we'll follow it all weekend and see you back here hopefully monday. thank you for being with us and stay safe. it's obviously very threatening. thank you. >> it is. thank you. >>> all right. and when we come back, more on the standoff and kathleen sebelius is out as the hhs secretary but tonight, we have new information, was she fired from the post? we'll check in wit

this sea of mesquite and cactus that you see below here was once the reservoir impounded by the dam that stretched nearly half a kilometer from that cliff face on that side all the way over to this cliff face over here. at its peak, the reservoir surface area equaled 40 football fields. keach: spencer has determined the reservoir's size by measuring the silt that had built up behind the dam. we're behind the dam now, walking through a channel cut right into the silts that were deposited behind the structure. these silts that you see on both sides were brought in here by the water that flowed into the reservoir. when the water hit the dam and stopped, the silts were dropped and deposited in a series of layers. keach: the silts show just how deep the dam once was. the top of this mountain of sediment would have been the floor of the reservoir. spencer: it dawned on me after a few days that what i was dealing with here was an engineering feat, the magnitude of which was hard to grasp at the beginning. the planning, the foresight, the organization that was required to carry out this incredib

coming up shortly, but we're going to begin in nevada on 600,000 acres of grazing land just west of mesquite. it's where lifelong rancher cliven bundy has been raising his cattle for years on what is federal land. he's been doing that without paying the necessary fees. in 1998, a judge ordered bundy to remove his hooved trespassers, and now after nearly two decades, multiple court orders and no cooperation frun

coming up shortly, but we're going to begin in nevada on 600,000 acres of grazing land just west of mesquite. it's where lifelong rancher cliven bundy has been raising his cattle for years on what is federal land. he's been doing that without paying the necessary fees. in 1998, a judge ordered bundy to remove his hooved trespassers, and now after nearly two decades, multiple court orders and no cooperation from bundy, the government has stepped in and removed his cattle from the property, rounding them up and keeping them in a holding area nearby. this was no small move. the bureau of land management and national park service mobilized helicopters, trucks and cowboys in order to move the cattle. as you may imagine, this angered the bundy family. the story got stirred by conservative groups who see this more as a glaring example of big government run amuck. one of the groups is the nevada army of the koch brothers funded americans for prosperity, which had been running pro-bundy images and messages in the social media accounts. been using the hashtag #bundybattle. they said blm is an agency w

terrorists, and i think that we are a country that people should follow the law, and what went up in mesquite is not very good. i repeat what went on up there is domestic terrorism. >> joining me is dana lash, hosts the dana show on the blaze television network. dana, good to see you. tonight, harry reid comes out and says today mr. bundy revealed himself to be a hateful racist and talked about how to advance his extreme hateful views, he's endangered the lives of innocent women and children. he says national republican leaders could help show a united front against this, this is not the statement, this is not the one i'm reading. he goes on to say national republican leaders can help show a united front against this hateful and dangerous extremism but publicly condemning bundy. i want to get your take, first of all, on cliven bundy and his statements today. >> megyn, i have no idea why this man is still even giving press conferences. i mean, the situation was thought to have been over. it was a remark. there is no way to have this make sense. harry reid's response, it strikes me as he doesn'

and what went up in mesquite is not very good.epeat what went on up there is domestic terrorism. >> i think harry reid is exactly right. in calling bundy a domestic terrorist. telling it like it is, harry. bundy has stolen $1 million from the american people. he's used a lawless militia to take on the federal government and get his cattle back. this is beyond late fees, folks this is flat-out theft is what it is. senator reid went on to highlight the severity of the situation. >> it's an issue that we cannot let go. just walk away from it. keep in mind what happened up there. there were hundreds, hundreds of people from around the country that came there. they had sniper rifles on the freeway. they had assault weapons. they had automatic weapons. and as one of the former sheriffs from arizona said, we had children and women lined up because what if anyone got hurt, we wanted to make sure they got hurt first. we wanted the federal government hurting women and children. >> now, right after harry reid made those comments, fox news ru

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people should follow the law and what went on in mesquite is domestic tourism. >> that last phrase isting attention. john roberts on that. senator harry reid hatched up a comment that is cooling off before. sfwl >> tensions were easing, but harry reid and his son rory want to keep the pressure cooking going and turned this into a personal feud. rory suggested that bundy should be prosecuted and senator harry reid upped the ante say this is an issue the government can't back away from and you heard him saying it, with the hundreds of people that support him, are nothing more than domestic terrorist. >> they had sniper rifles on the freeway and assault weapons and children and women lined up because if anyone was hurt they want today make sure they were hurt first because they want the government hurting women and children. >> reporter: he said the latest comments about the domestic terrorism will fuel the flames >> what is bundy saying on this? >> reporter: he is rejecting this saying the hundreds of the people that supported him were good people. but he is not backing away that they a

fromr next caller comes mesquite in michigan. caller: i am all for this lois lerner as far as her getting investigated. she shouldn't have to take the fifth and the millions of dollars that it will cost should go back to taxpayers. if you go back to the previous when you guys are talking about, syllabus having retired over obamacare and everything, i want -- i watched c-span yesterday and they are asking for $21.2 billion to help other countries we have a lot of organizations in the united states that have to go through, like salvation army -- host: do you have a question about lois lerner this morning? right, i think she should be prosecuted. i was a prosecutor for 10 years in my career. forve a lot of respect federal prosecutors, for the department of justice and i certainly hope the facts do come out. and if people have broken the law, the people are prosecuted to the full extent of those laws. host: max is on the line for republicans. caller: he was asked by trueituents to investigate to the vote for some reason. he denied th

. >> our next call ser are mesquite. mark is on the line for independence. >> yes, hello.uest: i'm with john malcolm of the heritage foundation. caller: i'm all for this lois lerner. she shouldn't take the fifth. this money could go back to the taxpayers. especially the previous one hat you guys are talking about the resigned and everything about obamacare i think it was, my question is, you know, they're asking for $20.1 billion to help other countries. >> you know, we have a lot of organizations in that the united states have to go army.h like salvation >> i think she should be prosecuted. >> that's ultimately a determination that would be made by the depend of justice. one would hope that the department of justice is conducting serious nvestigations. i have a lot of respect for federal prosecutors. and i certainly hope the facs do come out and that they're prosecuted to the fullest xtent of those laws. >> he denied the chairman any nowledge of his investigation. we found out yesterday that there were e mails and asking for information from the i.r.s. and he came back an

apparently, the white house kitchen does not have a mesquite grill.ne out side for us. >> on my r coming up. police are looking for the men responsible for blindfolding and pepper spray san leandro residents. >> plus, new information on the shooter at fort hood, including what he might have been doing minutes before the shooting. >> it was start for your weekend, we have a look at how long this will last. [doorbell rings] hey. hey. what's this? it's u-verse live tv. with at&t u-verse... you can watch live tv from your device. hey. hey. anywhere in your home. [doorbell rings] hey. hey. so you won't miss a minute of ncaa march madness. call now to get a u-verse bundle for the same great price for 2 years. guaranteed. >> welcome back. the time is 9:28 a.m.. there is a lot of but we're still dealing with a few isolated showers. nothing to organized. >> as we zoom in, you can see just like rain passing through san ramon added looks like we have rain perhaps had the times over portions of highway 35. portions of the coastline and light rain for redwood city

. >> our next caller comes from mesquite in michigan.aller: i am all for this lois lerner as far as her getting investigated. she shouldn't have to take the fifth and the millions of dollars that it will cost should go back to taxpayers. if you go back to the previous when you guys are talking about syllabus having retired over obamacare and everything, i want -- i watched c-span yesterday and they are asking for $21.2 billion to help other countries we have a lot of organizations in the united states that have to go through, like salvation army -- host: do you have a question about lois lerner this morning? caller: right, i think she should be prosecuted. guest: i was a prosecutor for 10 years in my career. i have a lot of respect for federal prosecutors, for the department of justice and i certainly hope the facts do come out. and if people have broken the law, the people are prosecuted to the full extent of those laws. host: max is on the line for republicans. caller: he was asked by constituents to investigate true to the vote for so

every individual system of just like i advocate for constituents who live out in bunkerville and mesquite and virgin valley as part of my congressional district and rural areas, that may not have a lot of diversity, just as they're concerned with the armed militias still in their community, tonight, and i have spoken up and asked law enforcement agencies to help remove those armed militias from that local community who just want to return to normal, i'm also here to speak up for communities throughout my district that are very diverse, that have latino communities and african-american and asian-american communities that are faced with this opportunity gap issue that we're here to talk about. and this is not a one-way conversation that we're having. we want to invite those of you who are watching on c-span or those of you who are following #cbctalks to at get involved in the conversation, tweet us your comments about what this opportunity gap means to you. because the ability to work hard and achieve success no matter what part of society that you were born in, this is what has produced th