countries like honduras, el salvador, guatemala, are treated differently than kids who come from mexico or canada. in the case of kids, unaccompanied minors from mexico or canada, believe the average is three days that we take care of them and repatriation or settled back. .. law that we have under the trafficking victims act, kids who come here need to be placed with a guardian or a family. and the president's proposal is asking nearly $2 billion for the department of health and human services, which has no role in border enforcement at all, none. it has no role in deportation or to repatriate these children back. it's simply to settle these children with families or guardians around the country. and i should note that h.h.s. does no due diligence whatsoever does no due diligence whatsoever were do well the country and i should note that a.j. just does no due diligence whatsoever to ensure that the people they are placing them with our here legally and so the net effect is when a child goes to a legal guardian or a parent it's very unlikely that they will then show up later for deportation heari

canada and mexico right now. that is when unaccompanied alien children come to our borders from mexico or canada they are returned home. ed is not the case with these other countries. we need to have this same policy. we should also send the national guard down to the border to secure the border, both from a but from thedpoint standpoint of helping the children and making sure they are safe, making sure they have the vaccines and so forth. that is apolicy self-imposed disaster by president obama. it is pure chaos. we need to have common sense on the border. that is why i have thought amnesty and for -- why i have thought -- why i have fought amnesty and for border security. >> one of your top priorities is to get the ballooning national debt under control, which you say can be done by balancing the economy,d growing our which is easy to say but very difficult to do. is it realistic to think that can be done without a tax increase and are there parts of the budget that would be off-limits, in your view, to cuts? >> thank you. i think this is the seminal question of this race. the debt we have right now is the grea

don't do it with the premise you're starting like we do for kids from mexico or canada. looks at them and they make the determination asylum or not.e and it's usually toward deportation. w t's the premise they start the law requires now that you start with the premise that they have a right to representation but theautomatic asylum right to asylum and they have to plead. move up to w the law requires now yes.dication, but if we're still in the men at we're expediting to deport then scheme. s the whole you are the cochairman of the congressional progressive caucus task the immigration force and the hispanic caucus. what kind of copsation are you in ng with your leadership terms of where we draw the lines in theyes. what democrats d on should or should not accept when a piece of legislation to the floor es that would -- that would either grant this monday thy or grant it only with certain conditions? >> two points. one is the administration, the rez and the white house and what paper was our white to provide a guide for congress and the white house as to what priority&the o

countries like honduras, el salvador, and guatemala, are treated differently than kids who come from mexico or canada. in the case of kids coming from unaccompanied minors from mexico or canada, i believe the average is three days that we take care of them then repatriate them or send them back. in this case, partly because of the law we have under the trafficking victims act, kids who come here need to be placed with a guardian or a family. the president's proposal is asking nearly $2 billion for the department of health and human services, which has no role in border enforcement at all, none. it has no role in deportation or to repatriate these children back. >> we are listening to two senators from arizona, senator john mccain and senator jeff flake, as well as senator john cornyn of texas talking about the immigration crisis, unaccompanied minors and adults coming into the border. the senators are blasting president obama saying there's not been enough border enforcement and also attacking comments he made before about apparently republicans wanting more and more and more border security but not

technical difficulties ] >> that 2008 law that requires that undocumented minors who are not from mexico or canadathe so-called non-contiguous countries that they be given immigration hearings to determine if they should be allowed to stay. some democrats including president obama said they are open to changing the law, but some major democratic leaders are pushing back, among them senator harry reid, who says that law was passed to protect children. it was a bipartisan plan, signed by george w. bush, and he does not plan to change it. >> ran del thank you very much. >>> many of those crossing the border are trying to escape poverty and violence that is plaguing central america. monica has the story. >> reporter: in a country with the world's highest murder rate, this woman only feels safe inside the main church. ever since her husband was killed eight months ago, drug gangs are after her children. they want to recruit the 6 year old, and have him train his baby brother. >> translator: they simply say we will recruit him and take him with us. they don't ask the mother for permission or anything. t

the way the law is written now, if you come from a con tig wous state, mexico or canada, obviously we're talking about mexico here, that process is a matter of days. a border patrol agent can determine whether you qualify for asylum, refugee status or visas available for kids who are trying to get here and immediately hand them over. part of the reasoning is we can do that safely and directly to mexican officials and we know they're going to take care of them. the reason this law was introduced back in 2008 is that it's a more involved process. obviously it involves the plane flight, it involves looking at the specific cases that they're facing back home. we don't have the same relationship with these governments that we do with mexico. so the thinking was let's have more protections for these kids so that when we send them back, we know it's a safer situation. we know, we understand better where they're headed. and so what they're trying to do now with this bill is to treat all those other kids as we treat kids from mexico or canada. speed up that process and make it a lot quicker. the

there's a 2008 law, just about everybody in the congress voted for it, if it you're not from mexico or canada you are guaranteed the hearing. that's part of the holdup. the kids are guaranteed a legal process to make sure there's not some reason, crime or refugee status they shouldn't be sent home. the president says most will go back how much heat does he get from the left? >> you have the humanitarian crisis and the aclu law came out a couple days ago. you have a lot of people saying is that something that's right when the kids are not getting proper legal counsel. you have to actually if you're going to say why they left their country in a place like honduras, had 32 murders of children in june this year, people have to ask why are you leaving? >> cecelia munoz was on "the situation room" with my colleague wolf blitzer early last week. here's what she said when asked how many children will be sent home? >> we believe a majority are unlikely to qualify for humanitarian relief. >> how do you define majority and ultimately, in the sense of majority, is that half plus one or is it 50%, is it 6

as governor perry noted the law treats them differently than those from mexico or from canada . what is your view on the law and the changes and what kind of priority does that deserve in trying to address this crisis? >> there are two laws at issue. one is an executive action taken by the president after congress failed to pass the dream act. in 2012 when you look at --. >> what does that do? >> it allowed illegal alien children to stay in the united states. >> only a certain category, correct? >> prior to 2007. >> so, these children are crossing the border now are ineligible? >> they are. but the problem, the drug traffickers who market this to the children in central america and make money off of them, $5,000 to $8,000 a head or selling this line that if they get in the united states they can say. the department of homeland security interviewed 90 percent of the children who say they want a free pass to stay in the united states. >> but that doesn't necessarily mean obama ordered that. isn't it the case that under the law they can get their feet on the ground on this side of

today's bill would allow the refugees to be treated the same as immigrants from mexico or canada. a big rig crash has been a major traffic headache the truck went off the road, tipped over and started on fire. sky 7 shows dark smoke and two businesses were evacuated. all lanes were closed. that is the commute direction. most lanes have reopened but chp says expect delays throughout the evening. >> another problem is in marin county. it's now threatening to for the commute. this around 7:00 in the morning. and remains closed in both directions. rain? >> it may well be all night but after a long day of looking at this wreckage, we're getting action. that is it over my shoulder there. the rig is now empty. and that jackknifed rig out of the area. and they haven't moved yet so >> when it happened, the question is what has taken so long the answer? it's complicated. this happened on a county road. so caltrans and chp don't have jurisdiction. and the clean up process has become a victim of the accident. i'll begin with truck driver patrick ross. >> they have a contractor that comes from

today's bill would allow the refugees to be treated the same as immigrants from mexico or canada. a big rig crash has been a major traffic headache the truck went off the road, tipped over and started on fire. sky 7 shows dark smoke and two businesses were evacuated. all lanes were closed. that is the commute direction. most lanes have reopened but chp says expect delays throughout the evening. >> another problem is in marin county. it's now threatening to for the commute. this around 7:00 in the morning. and remains closed in both directions. rain? >> it may well be all night but after a long day of looking at this wreckage, we're getting action. that is it over my shoulder there. the rig is now empty. and that jackknifed rig out of the area. and they haven't moved yet so >> when it happened, the question is what has taken so long the answer? it's complicated. this happened on a county road. so caltrans and chp don't have jurisdiction. and the clean up process has become a victim of the accident. i'll begin with truck driver patrick ross. >> they have a contractor that comes from

we are not doing it the same way we do it in mexico or canada. >> of the 55,000 we estimate got here, a relative here or parent here? >> oh, more than half have a relative here. they said more than half know have a parent here. we're upwards 90% have a relative, a close relative whether it's a brother, sister, aunt, uncle, grandparent, but the vast majority have one or both parents in the united states, reconnecting with the families living illegally in the united states, part still in central america, folks in the united states call them to join them here in the united states. we have an illegal already here, someone caught crossing the border, we process them over three weeks time period connecting them with illegal family members here telling the child who reports to a hearing two years from now. nothing happened to the legal parent they are connected with here. >> in the meantime, we have to educate the kids, they start school in the fall here. who pays for that is. >> the local communities and the state, that's correct. that's what's happening all over the country, reconnecting i

dianne feinstein, co-author of the bill who allowed for these folks not from mexico or canada that brings minors into the country not be deported right away. there's circumstances and she believes as the co-author, that would allow them to immediately and responsibly get these children back to their home countries. that's where the president needs to start. he needs to reengage, get folks doing administrative work on the border. they need to make sure they send a clear signal. this is an interesting thing, a bipartisan issue. hillary clinton says if you want to stop this, send them back, let them know don't put in the criminal pipeline. certainly dianne feinstein thinks there's a way for the president -- >> the majority of them have to go back home is your point? >> think about what we're doing. this isn't a walk in the park to get from fl salvador, honduras into the united states. these are criminal gangs. these kids subject to sexual exploitation, drug exposure. some are being recruited or pressed into gangs along the way. we're losing these kids along the way. imagine the experience wh

it said only children from mexico or canada can legally be turned around and sent home. the rest, coming from south america, get it tell an immigration judge whether they're victims of abuse or crime. if possible, they are reunited with a family member. the white house and it's allies say this law, combined with soaring crime and violence in central america, are the roots of the problem. it has tied their hands when it comes to dealing with the current wave of children. take a look at this. according to government records published in the los angeles times. deportation of mines or peaked in 2008 and declined after that. and then it really took off in 2008. and the bottom line, most children coming from central america will end up staying in the u.s. for years while their cabses make their way through the legal system. so regardless of whether its true, it's this lacking time that's helping to fuel the rumors of permits for children to stay in the u.s. just listen to what these hon honduran migrants told us. >> we were given the permission to stay there. and if a parent ar

we treat otm differently than aliens from mexico or canada.ht now what is happening is our government is pretty much releasing and giving these otms a free pass into our country. we're very concerned about it. we want to make sure that our boarders are secured and patrolled by our agents and be able to do our job. >> tell us about what the agents are able to do every day. a couple were shot at and rocks flo thrown at them. they are used terms like the cartels are using military tactics. what are they telling you is happening to them on the border? >> our agents are attacked by these drug cartels and it includes having shots fired at them assaults and yes happening even in the arizona border we had the mexican military even attack our agents. >> so let me ask you about this. when you say that the federal government is aiding and abedding, sounds like they're supposed to be protecting this border. what do you mean specifically? >> actually what's happen as good that the federal government is actually completing the smuggling cycle by having a pa

immigrant minors apprehended at the border may only be deported immediately if they are from mexico or canada. the rest must be turned over within three days to the department of health and human services to await deportation hearings. in the meantime the law says quote, they shall be placed in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child. with an estimated 50,000 such children having come here from central america this year you can imagine how much trouble hhs is having housing them. even then there are a range of legal possibilities that could keep them in this country indefinitely. politicians are fond of railing against human traffickers for spreading the rue horse that such immigrant kids can easily get into this country but it's not a rumor, it's the law. >> you heard the homeland security secretary jay johnson having a hard time answering that question from david gregory about what exactly deportation would do. today the white house press secretary josh earnest had this to sane repeated questioning about that. >> it is our view that's it's unlikely most of th

it says only children from mexico or canada can can be turned around and sent home. they get a chance to tell an immigration judge whether they were the victims of abuse, or a crime. during that process, they have to be held in the at least restrictive setting available, and if possible reunited with a family member. >> the white house and it's allies say this law combined with soaring crime and violence in central america, not lax border enforcement are the root of the problem, may say it has tied their hands when it comes to dealing with the current wave of children. take a look at this, according to government records published in the los angeles time, deportation of miners folked in 2008, and plummeted after that then this' this, the backlog in the nation's immigration courts which really took off back in 2008. and the bottom line is that most children coming from central america will end up staying in the u.s. for years. while their cases make their way think the legal system. >> so regardless whether it is true, this is this lag time that is helping fuel the rum

passed in 2008 treats these central american immigrant children differently from one border from mexico or canada order to they were entitled under the law to receive -- they can't be immediately deported or september back into mexico or can't. gee poor station proceedings are to begin they can't be sent away until their hearing is held in front of a judge. now, when you got them here by the tens of thousands you can imagining how long that will take. here under the current law for quite a while. at a minimum. he was going to ask congress to change the law to make it easier to deport them. he has decided tonight is he not going to do that. which suggests to me is no no hurry to solve the problem. is he going to ask congress for a bunch of money to continue operating under the present law and to perhaps to encourage mexico to enforce its borders with guatemala, honduras and el salvador. this is pretty feeble response by man who on this issue is looking feeble indeed. >> feeble is an interesting word. really, i'm trying to figure it out. you know, i'm trying to figure it out. but he must know and h

can do that, what's bringing these kids here, the way the law is now written, unlike kids from mexico or canada who come here illegally, they can't be immediately deported, they have to be put through a process, and the process is what keeps them in the country. he's trying to accelerate the process for their deportation. that doesn't seem to me like they're going to provoke a constitutional crisis. >> i think he got a lot of attention when he got brushed back, 13 times bring the supreme court, including two of his own appointees, and then -- rather than coming out in any sort of hat in handmaner, just staying quiet, he said, they're wrong, they're wrong, they're wrong, and by the way, i'm going to go ahead and make more executive decisions. >> i don't disagree with one thing that jonathan turley said, what i'm talking about here, though is the limits to what he can do, and has done, the second thing is, getting into an apparent fight with the supreme court and seeming at least to defy its rulings is not a political winner. i mean, look at the situation the president is in, the mideast is on fi

because america is not occupying mexico or canada. >> okay. far too much burden. i think you put far too much burden on israel and far too little burden on those who openly say they want to destroy israel. i think that's an enormous challenge. >> peter binart and newt gingrich, thank you both very much. i appreciate it. and is we'll stay on this, because the next question is, what would jesus do in gaza? that is actually the headline, the title of a piece written by my next guest. you'll hear what he thinks and how this also involves the pope. >>> plus, the inner workings, the mine usualia of vladimir putin. what does he do in his free time. what is he deathly afraid of, and why doesn't he drink milk when he's not home? you will hear from a man who can answer all those questions and more, next. you're watching cnn. hey. i'm ted and this is rudy. say "hi" rudy. [ barks ] [ chuckles ] i'd do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. that's why i'm so excited about these new milk-bone brushing chews. whoa, i'm not the only one. it's a brilliant new way to take car

unaccompanied minors to show up at the border who have a deportation hearing except if they are from mexico or canada. republican senator john cornyn and democratic representative, henry cuellar, want to get rid of that hearing, except in certain cases. >> we are trying to find a solution and we are trying to roll up our sleeves and basically, you know, how do we stem the wave of humanity that's coming over to the u.s. and how do we make sure that we treat the kids with care, but at the same time, stem this wave coming in? >> we want to make sure all these -- all unaccompanied children are treated exactly the same, the children from central america are treated the same way as kids coming over from mexico and canada, make sure if they do have a colorable claim to some immigration relief, say asylum, the victim of human trafficking, they have the opportunity if they wanted to present that to a judge, an immigration judge on a timely basis. >>> ahead in the newsroom, i will talk with representative cuellar about the bill he is proposing. that's about 90 minutes from now, right here in the newsroom. as y

unlike immigrants from mexico or canada which are contiguous to the u.s., the kids can't be immediatelyeported. we'll make a change to that law and that will help. >> we see them flown all over the country and as far north as new york from the border to be processed and handled in accordance with the law. we also hear that many of them are given court dates to show you. they know deportation proceedings will start against them but 90% by one study don't show up. if the policy on paper is one thing but reality is they get to stay here, how do you convince these kids and these families not to take these incredible risks for these young children? >> this is the exact problem with immigration policy in america today, shannon. there are gaping holes in which people obviously fall through the cracks whether or not you think it's a good thing and you want that to happen or not. it's created a situation in which there's a tremendous amount of pressure being put on the american taxpayer particularly in these communities along the border but as you point out, well beyond. we talk about california

from central and south american countries are treated differently than children coming from mexico or canada. republicans have held up this law and a potential fix to this law. they are arguing we can immediately ship these children back and it would help us out and limit this push. democrats have been extremely resistant. they call it inhumane, they say you should not package a change to this law into an appropriations bill which is what leader pelosi said today. ago, leader pelosi made it seem like she would be open to a change in that law but that idea was dropped. she said it would be a mistake to package that type of change into an appropriations bill. i took that to mean that any little semblance of a chance of passing something soon on this -- it went out the window. democratic votes are not going to be there for a package that includes changing that law. it is very unlikely we will see the democratic senate agree to anything the republican-controlled house passes. arenother issue there likely to vote -- the confirmation of robert mcdonald. the two they stand on separate v.a. health-c

the way the law works now, if you come from a contiguous country to the border, mexico or canada, if you are a child, you can be sent home in 48 hours, but you are not from guatemala, el salvador, where most of these kids are from, these are -- there are different protocols. if they passed a law that said apply the same laws as contiguous countries. nothing it going to get done. >> look in your crystal ball and tell me when the president's advisers come back at the end of summer and give him some ideas for executive actions, when he take these executive actions, tell me what the republicans are going to say. >> well, they will probably add it to their list of offenses that they are going to try to bring to court against the president. this is sort of a dare in some effect. it does play into the democrats hands. where does the country go? boehner says this isn't going to get done until we have a new president of the united states. >> somebody said right here on our program, when you have children at stake, it seems very unamerican to leave these kids sort of wasting away in the situat

for children coming from mexico or canada, a border patrol officer has the authority to determine whether the child is eligible to stay in the country. the children from all other countries, the child must be turned over within 72 hours to the department of health and human services to care for them and find them safe housing until arrangements can be made. instead of that happening, republicans are calling for all of these kids to be immediately deported. >> the thing this administration needs to do is immediately deport these families, these children. i know it sounds harsh and sounds difficult, but they are creating a crisis at this time that is actually going to harm these children. >> we have to send them back because if you don't, you're going to incentivize people throughout that part of the world to keep sending their children here. about a third of the little girls are raped in the process of getting here. it's a humanitarian problem but apart from immigration reform. this is a specific problem created by an impression if you get to america, you can stay. >> sounds hard, sound di

if mexico or canada were to fire rockets into our country,ky only imagine the reaction our country would have. for us to dictate to the israelis is unacceptable. >> aside from that, not to mix apples and oranges, but mexico did fire on border agents about a month ago and nothing did apparently happen. but let's stick to israel and gaza and hamas right now, david. what do y think secretary kerry and president obama need to do now? >> it is hard to imagine that the president is trying to line up with the only three allies that hamas has in this fight, which is the "new york times," cnn and msnbc. and what the president ought to be doing is sending john kerry to a kibbutz like i went last year and spend some time with israelis who live every day with missiles being potentially fired into their village and in fact the kibbutz i was in on july 11st of this year did get bombed with missiles. you see the anguish. you see the stress that's on those mother's faces as they think every time an alarm sounds they've got 60 seconds to get their kids into shelter. >> what's the difference about this fi

different for kids from central america who arrive here in the united states versus kids from mexico or canada. those kids can be returned almost immediately. when they come from central america, there's a different process according to the law. they have to be brought into the refugee system. they get hearings. the process takes a longer time. that is why they need these additional housing facility, to detain and hold these kids, these families, until they can go through the process. i was on a conference call with white house officials earlier today. they don't know how long these kids will be in this country. it could be weeks, it could be months. they don't have an answer to that at this point. they're talking about converting schools. one event the president is going to be doing tomorrow, presumably this is where rick perry will meet up with him in dallas. the president is going there to hear about local plans in dallas to convert local schools into detention and housing facilities for these kids, the same is also being talked about in houston. that just gives you a scope of the problem h

a 2008 law that requires court hearings before deportations of children unless they're from mexico or canada. top democrats left the door open to including that change in the president's package. house minority leader nancy pelosi: >> it's not something that would be a deal breaker as we go forward. let them have their face-saver. but let us have the resources to do what we have to do. >> reporter: and senate majority leader harry reid said democrats on his side are not going to block anything for now. the white house also signaled it's open to changing the law to quicker deportations of migrant children. as children continue to pour across the country's southern border, it's the nation's 233 immigration judges who are tasked with deciding who stays in the u.s., and who gets sent back home. we get a view from within the system from danah leigh marks, president of the national association of immigration judges. she's been a judge for 27 years and is based in san francisco. thank you for joining us. everyone seems to agree about the huge backlog, how serious a problem is it, for the system and

openness to abending the 2008 anti-trafficking law that gives children from countries other than mexico or canadations from swift deportations. this afternoon, the president met with members of the congressional hispanic caucus to discuss the crisis. two of the participants of that meeting are with me now, loretta sanchez and juan vargas. let me go with loretta sanchez first. were you satisfied with what the president said today, and what did see say about whether we're going to change the law, let the kids in to stay, or what? >> well, actually, i was pretty impressed by the meeting this time around. and the president on the issue of the minors seemed to indicate a pretty straightforward position, at least my take on that was, chris, that one, if these children were coming from countries simply because it was an economic hardship, there weren't opportunities for them, that they had family back there and were in a pretty safe place, these children would go through the process and be sent back. but he did say that one of the reasons he wanted more funds was in fact to be able to do the investigati

treat the children the same as we treat from mexico or canada. and treat them no differently. we think this will break the back of this business model that the cartels are selling because it ultimately will not work so we the see this surge in numbers come down. >> gentlemen, thank you very much i love the bipartisan. i suspect the american people do as well. thank you both. >> thank you, greta. >> let's all go off-the-record for just a minute. our politicians can act dopey. think about this. if a pipe freezes in your living room and then bursts spreading water uncontrollably when with great force all over your house drenching everything. what do you do? dew. you stop the water. you run down to the basement and turn off the water. every dim wit knows that only a fool would run upstairs and get a pack of towels and throw them on the spray of water. that's just plain stupid, right? that's our border and it's a crisis. our border has been and bursting for decades. people are flooding the country. our country has utterly failed us with that 1986 immigration reform bill and failed

governed -- that basically makes it so that it is factually correct, that any child not from mexico or canada that gets detained at the border is not automatically deported. >> we didn't have that problem for four years, chuck. to blame a law that was in effect for four years -- we had that problem once the president sent unambiguous signals that if you're an unaccompanied minor who shows up at the border, you can stay. you used the statistics yourself at the top of the show. 1,600 kids out of tens of thousands have gone back. i've been told those are all pretty much voluntary. that is, they requested to go back. if you don't stop the flow, you're not going to change the incentive. you can run all the ads in hondur honduras, guatemala and el salvador you want. but they know they're not true. somebody is paying criminal carte will. s to bring them up here. they don't walk across mexico. we have people here in this country facilitating a criminal enterprise, putting the kids at risk and destroying the societies they're coming from. >> you're getting at the root problem here. does the united sta

bargaining point and they have in the immigration fight where if the child does not come from mexico or canadaey can't be just sent back. they have to deal with the court process which means why there is a hold up right now. she said she personally opposed that, but that would be something she'd be willing to give up in return to perhaps large-scale funding and that's something to keep an eye on, but i want to reiterate the point i made to you, since it's an inception now. two things at play here. number one, the talk of border security and we still cannot quantify what border security means. number two, you only have 40 house republicans that have 20% or more latino districts. >> they like this, surprisingly or not. this is beneficial to them so they don't want to help the president. >> does kevin mccarthy play a role or is his district 35% latino? >> i think where he is right now is becoming majority leader at the end of the month and i don't think hes tos muddy his tires. >> the white house has taken a pretty clear position on this. i asked cecilia munoz, with domestic policy and i asked he

it doesn't allow the government to deport children from outside mexico or canada without further investigation supporters say it's not to blame for the current crisis. earlier, i spoke with zoe lochran on boarder security. i asked her who is to blame for the crisis developing along the border. >> well, i think if you just examine the data, you can see that there is a refugee event going on. refugees from the three central american countries are also fleeing to other nations, not just the united states. there has been a 700% increase in asylum claims in mexico, panama, nicarawga. >> president obama has received criticism as of late. do you believe the obama administration policies have contributed in any way to this crisis? >> well, i do think that the lack of sufficient immigration judges has led to an unreasonable delay. but it's not a problem entirely of the president's making. the congress has refused to appropriate the funds to pay for these judges. instead, we have beefed up extensively immigration enforcement, border patrol, but we didn't increase the capacity to process the cases. i und

policy right now that jim was talking about that allows kids or anybody who come illegally from mexico or canada to go right back, but those who come from central america to have a hearing, many democrats are concerned about that policy changing. they don't want the kids from central america to be able to, as one told me, just go through a revovling door and sent right back. that's why you have all of these forces that are contradict ri. you see up there this hearing we were talking about that's beginning right now. tom coburn who is the ranking republican on this committee who said on cross fire last night that this is so much money if you look at it the, it's # $0,000 a kid, he said we could spend money on first class tickets to fly them all back to their homes and it would cost half as much. not even half as much. that gives you a sense of where some of the republicans are with regard to just the actual money. >> can you fact check that for me real quick, that's a lot of money, but, when you look at that, some of it has to do with, you know, tampaing down the miss information that smugglers a

children coming from central american countries are treated differently than those coming from mexico or canada. what republicans are arguing is we should immediately ship these children to south america, and eliminate the question to the southern border. democrats have called this inhumane. they said we should not package a change of law into an appropriations bill. two weeks ago, leader pelosi had made it seem like she would be open to a change in now, but that idea, the cold water was dumped on that day, and she said that would be a mistake to pack up that type of change into an appropriations bill. what i took that to mean was any little semblance of a chance of then passing something soon on this i thought kind of went out the window. democratic votes are not going to be there on a package that changes the law. it is unlikely we will see the senate agreed to anything the republicans in the house passed. >> and other issues, they are likely to vote on the confirmation of the new v.a. secretary. how do the two bills stand? >> they are very likely to be passed very easily. there has never bee

sweeping new protections to kids entering the united states alone from countries other than mexico or canadaortations while they received a fair hearing. that now is a problem. it's a political problem. and it's an actual problem as we try to expedite getting these individuals to somewhere sustainable not housing them in warehouses. it was designed, of course, to respond to a disturbing flood of human trafficking into the united states and passed with broad bipartisan support. it's happening right here in the midst and not just children from central america. today, in our call to action, an advocate wades in against the fight of trafficking. lucy lui is a unicef ambassador for a decade and shining a spotlight on the horrors of trafficking. we recently sat down with her to talk about a new film based on a compelling new story. >> stop it! >> a lot of people don't know that something that happened in this movie is possible. it's a true story. i wish it didn't happen but it is something that happens every single day. i think that having people understand that there are women and children being,

so dianne feinstein, the co-author of the bill that allowed for these folks who are not from mexico or canada that bring minors into the country, not be deported right away, there's circumstances, and she believes as the co-author that would allow them to immediately and responsibly get these children back to their home countries, and that's where the president needs to start. so he needs to re-engage. get folks who are doing administrative work on the border, they need to make sure they send a very clear signal. here is the interesting thing, this is a bipartisan issue. hillary clinton says if you want to stop this, you need to start sending these kids back to let people know don't put them in the criminal pipeline to come into america. certainly dianne feinstein thinks there's a way for the president -- >> the majority of them have to go back home is your point. >> think about what we're doing. this isn't a walk in the park to get from el salvador or honduras into the united states. these are criminal gangs. these are organized criminal gangs. these kids are subject to sexual exploitation.

treat them the same as if they were from mexico or canada. >> we should point out when governor perryls and the terrorists coming across. >> absolutely. it's not the kids, per say. although we do have issues with the kids. they do have safety concerns. we certainly worry about losing them. they could be trafficked in our own country. so it is a very big issue. >> thank you very much for joining us live, thank you. >>> coming up on this tuesday morning, forget the commute. work from home. cheryl casone has the companies that could make that a reality for you, plus five others hiring right now. good morning to you, cheryl. ♪ ♪ brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. wh