joining me to discuss, michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian, michael, it's such a treat> the michael our. here's the deal. how much overlap do you see between the mar-a-lago case and watergate? is that a historical comparison if you will? >> obstruction of justice. that's what we are talking. about that's what we talked about with nixon. abuse of power, certainly that's one of the things that we talked about with both trump and nixon. to compare nixon to donald trump, to use a metaphor from these storms that are hitting washington and elsewhere, nixon is a lightning bug, donald trump is a lightning storm. it threatens to knock out our power grid. this is a level of magnitude that is wait, wait, way beyond nixon. look at it this way. you are mentioning alluding to january 6th. the insurrection that involved the famous attack on congress and threatened to a coup d'État that could have overturned our system of government and gotten rid of joe biden. installed donald trump as an unelected president who might have wanted to serve forever. the scale of that is so far beyond ni

joining me now is michael beschloss, msnbc presidential historian, and joshua stanton, president of the defense of dignity center. thank you both for being here. i'll start with you, michael. you covered the presidency for a very long time. this concept they have created of essentially unitary president who cannot be stopped by congress or anyone in the executive branch, what do you make of it? >> it's ridiculous. there's no such thing. if we brought james madison back, who did much to invebt the system that we're talking about, his whole thing was balance of power. you know, checks and balances between three branches. co-equal, a president, a supreme court, a congress. and so what we have got now is, and he's telling us 16 months before the next presidential election, donald trump is the first person, the only person in all of american history who has said if you elect me, my intention is to establish just as you're saying, joy, a presidential dictatorship. telling you the american people, your families, everyone you know, your friends, others, every private aspect of your life, if you

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then, presidential historian michael beschloss is here on a busy week, the split screen between donald trump and the current president, as the 11th hour gets underway on this friday night. >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. even as legal troubles pile up for donald trump, he is vowing to stay in the 2024 presidential race, even if he gets convicted. it has been just over 24 hours since we learned the justice department added three new criminal charges against him in a classified documents case. tonight trump was in iowa for the first big gathering of gop candidates, and he claimed the governments allegations were really about his race for the white house. >> if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me, or if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me. >> trump is now facing a total of 40 counts related to his handling of classified material after leaving the white house. nbc's garrett haake has more on the case against the former president. >> in the new charges the special counsel alleging mr. trump sought a cover-up to conceal classified do

our moderator for this episode of white house history live is acclaimed presidential historian michael beschloss. michael serves on the association's of directors and is chair of our committee. he has written, edited and contributed to many. his most recent one. presidents of war the epic story of 1807 to modern times was a best seller. thank you, michael, for joining us this evening. we will be taking questions at the end of the program from our in-person audience and also from virtual audience. so if you're watching tonight on facebook or youtube just type those questions into the chat and we'll get to as many them as possible at the end of the program. we welcome you this evening. and i'm going to turn program over to michael beschloss. thank you very much, colin. just to make sure you know that you're in the right place. morning, the president. i'll begin by saying that everyone buy a ten copies, read it ten times at least, and share friends and family. it's really a wonderful book and really appropriate that do this here for a number of reasons. one is stuart mcclure, who was too modest to

you know, michael beschloss, this is what orban does in hungary. this is what was happening before the war. the idea was use the centralized state to crush any dissent, whether it is in the bureaucracy, as anne applebaum talked about, the twilight of democracy, where loyalty replaces competence. whether you're talking about it in the media sphere, where you intimidate and get rid of media opponents. what about, again, the fcc, donald trump having the sole power to decide whether this network or other networks he doesn't like actually are on the air or not? that's what we're talking about here. talk about the danger, the level of danger to american democracy. >> well, if you love mussolini, you will love what donald trump is talking about for 2025. mussolini followed the unitarian executive theory, too, which meant total power to the dictator, no constraints. this is about as un-american, i think you will all agree, as anything i've ever heard. i mean, the reason why this country was founded was as a rebuke to the british king. we wanted to develop

joining me now, michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian.ke spending time with you because your angles put into context what we're going through. there's this old adage history is written by the victors. what does it say to the political danger to our democracy if the far right wins these culture wars? >> well, when people say thins like this, it has consequences. as you know, katie, the whole purpose of history, our most sacred duty as historians is to tell people in american society and elsewhere what in human history was good, what in human history was bad. that's the only way human beings behavior better in the future. and when you've got idiots saying that people who were slaves in the united states benefitted from slavery or that perhaps people of the holocaust, they made themselves useful and were able to avoid death, that's serves the purposes of white supremacists and racists and bigots and hateful anti-semites. and the two were hand in hand. when anti-semites in american history have operated, the first thing they do is say, the ho

joining me now, our royal commentator outside windsor castle and michael beschloss. daisy, this is the first time that a british king has met with a u.s. president in something like 80 years. it's another historic moment for king charles. what does this moment mean for these two leaders? >> reporter: i think you could really see in the body language and the way they interacted with each other there was a genuine warmth there. this wasn't just for show when you looked at king charles and president biden together. there's been some chatter here that might amuse you that maybe president biden had broken royal protocol by touching the back of the king's body, his back. that has been completely shot down with people close to the king saying the king is delighted, the king is a touchy, feely person and he thought it showed the genuine warmth between the two men. and they have that shared passion of the environment and green agenda. >> i didn't have the king down as a touchy, feely person. michael, president biden's been working to strengthen his ties with the prime ministe

michael beschloss of on why we all should be alarmed.history, vice president harris takes on florida's plan to teach that slavery has some benefits for black people. >> they insult us in an attempt to gaslight us. we will not have it. >> i'm jonathan capehart. this is the sunday show. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> this week, donald trump is sweating. sweat in, because special counsel jack smith's grand jury in washington, d.c., that is deciding whether to indict him over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election is scheduled to meet this tuesday and thursday. it was just a week ago today that the twice impeached, twice indicted for now, former presidents, said that he received a target letter. this is usually the last step before formal indictment.

obstruction of justice, donald trump says no problem connecting himself to richard nixon, the story michael beschlosss far right house republicans put baby in a corner, threatening speaker mccartney with another mutiny. also tonig

then, presidential historian michael beschloss is here on a busy week, the split screen between donaldy night. >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. even as legal troubles pile up for donald trump,

the story of michael beschloss and packs that for us. republicans put baby in a corner. threatening speaker mccarthy with another -- also tonight, a comet wake up call. it's bound to be the hottest year ever. what can we still do about it? author john valium helps us find some hope amid this heap. this is american voices. >> we begin this hour with a warning for gop voters. donald trump is a loser. it's

then, presidential historian michael beschloss is here on a busy week, the split screen between donaldderway on this friday night. >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. even as legal troubles pile up for donald trump, he is vowing to stay in the 2024 presidential race, even if he gets convicted. it has been just over 24 hours since we learned the jus

michael beschloss, always love having you here. >> same here, love always being with you. >> thank you, my friend. and that is tonight's reidout. all in with chris hayes starts right now. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm jen psaki in for chris hayes. this tuesday and we are all still on indictment watch. special counsel jack smith's investigation into the effort to steal the 2020 election. so, the grand jury was expected to meet again in washington, d.c., today, but as we learned this afternoon, they did not. the next time they are scheduled to meet is thursday and there are new developments in the special counsel investigation we are going to tell you about shortly. but the jacks mitt investigation is not the only one coming in for a landing. there is another one you've got to know some more details on, fulton county, georgia district attorney, fani willis, is preparing to bring charges as soon as next week in her parallel investigation into election interference in that state. and today, hugo lowell reports in the guardian that the district