>>everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use (vo)michael jackson's secret hollywood holds the secret to who jackson really was, the product of a system that created him, fed on him and ultimately destroyed him. ew hollywood agent, the most powerful man in town, with a client list unlike any other. mark roesler doesn't need swish la offices to impress his clients, because they're all dead. >>i'm journalist jacques peretti, and i'd always thought that michael jackson would be remembered for the child abuse allegations, but he's not. this year he's the hottest property in hollywood. >>good morning. imagine? >>it's mark. >>nice to meet you. >>okay. >>so these are all the pictures you've got of all your clients on the wall? >>this is a marilyn merlot wine. >>wow. >>and you can pour it in your marilyn merlot andy warhol wine glass. (vo)mark pioneered the dead celebrity agency that makes millions of dollars every year putting his client's names and faces to everything imaginable. ars. those sold for, ah, about a thousand dollars when they were made. elvis telephone right here. at a lo

it's exactly like it was with michael jackson. there were reports, simon, in the paper here in america that you were considering making an offer to whitney to be a host on "x factor in america." was that true? >> that's often what happens when people, you know, want to be on one of these shows, somebody tells someone to get the word out. it's normally a sign that they are interested. we were ironically going to meet on monday. of course, one of the names we were going to be talking about in that meeting, you know, as a possible mentor on the new series of "x factor" was going to be whitney houston. i have no idea genuinely whether she was that interested or whether given the choice, i would have like to have taken her under my wing, as well. because she would have been the ultimate, ultimate mentor to any contestant coming on the show. >> simon, do you think that -- was she in some ways her own worst enemy and was it a case that people couldn't get close enough to whitney to try and help her? did she lack somebody that could just

like michael jackson did.ael jackson estate did after he died. in the 12 months after michael jackson passed away, his estate brought in $279 million. that's a huge amount of money considering he was no longer produzing new music. i think with her the number will be in the tens of millions of dollars. we could see $10 million come into her estate from the sale of music from the months following her death. >> we reported yesterday in the increase of price that sony increased the price of her most popular music. forbes has the to five earners and they include three people who passed away, michael jackson, elvis presley and marlin monroe. charles schultz was on the list and john lennon made $12 million. >> i think the reason why michael jackson earned so much is because he wrote those songs, he wasn't just performing them. he also earned the publishing rights. i think she will be reinintroduced to fans. i think a whole new generation of younger fans is learning about her now. she's costarring with the star of "am

when i reached out to you it is, we have amy winehouse, michael jackson. we have a long list of artists that fall prey to the enablers. that's really what -- what really amazes me. after all of this time, nobody can see that. i think the young artists need to hear this. they need to hear the questions you are asking. they need to hear what i'm saying right now. because they will fall prey to at this time, too. when whitney houston or nikki sixx or the other artists started out we had courage to believe in ourselves. at what point did we lose the courage and started to let other people run our lives? >> what has been a common theme throughout the week from the guests i have had is those who knew whitney houston saying she was very strong willed. she didn't want to be told what to do. what would you say to that argument? >> i too am very strong willed. i was told if i continued to use i drugs my manager would walk away. that's the only person that said that to me. that was the kick in the ass i needed to put myself in rehab and get my act together. i had bee

michael jackson. whitney houston, it now appears the same.e needs to be some kind of regulation to stop this kind of epidemic of celebrity being able to get to lots of different doctors and having lots of different prescriptions and nobody actually knowing how many they're getting in totality and leading to these awful deaths. what do you think? >> well, i mean, you know, you see this problem on the screen where folks who are very famous -- as you know, in your own country, you go back into the examples of the aristocracy and the impact on the rest of society throughout the history of britain. and vice versa when the aristocracy changed their behavior and in a sense, celebrities are the aristocracy of america. the kings and queens and princes of our society. and they have a huge impact on the rest of society. much more than any other group. much more than a politician does. and that's why this is so disturbing that you see, in a sense, the royalty of america, setting such a poor example and being troubled by these things. and obviously, that'

allen says michael jackson was like family. ♪ >> michael jackson is a phenomenon. i say is. will always be. and our relationship was totally based on dance. he came here many, many, many nights, many days, and right then in my dance studio trained in new techniques. he wanted to learn how to tap dance. he actually had an idea of doing a production with glover. >> he really admired him. and what's so great about michael, never ever settled for what his ability was at the moment. it always had to go further. he trained and practiced everything that he already knew every you today. and so smart. soft spoken, but a tiger. >> is that something that's missing in a lot of artists today? >> what's miss dag is we don't have enough of that development. when i think about the record business and you think about about the music business and how young people just put a video up on youtube and they jump out there. but who is there developing them. michael appreciated people that were real around him. he had a lot of people but i was always very real with him. >> were there too many people

yeah. >> that was whitney houston there talking about michael jackson. us. two people from singing families who both died before they even reached 50. incredibly sad. very sad to see whitney talking about michael that way and then the same thing happening to her. what do you think of the parallels she drew there? >> have sobering. i think it speaks to the level of people born to tremendous success. it's inconceivable that every mistake appears in newspapers, that things you never thought do are in public view. and i think the burden that celebrities have, particularly those who are at the top of their field, is immeasurable. and i think you can see the parallels in that sense. but with regard to her music, whitney presented a kind of dignity and elegance that was embraced by the community. she was never disrecollectful to her tradition. her music was not only uplifting but her persona was so elegant and so dignified. she was in a class of people who come very rarely. >> she left at 48, which is relatively long. she covered more ground in 48 years than thr

. >> i think what they wanted was some sort of ceremony like the staple center for michael jackson, but apparently at this point, erin, it is not going to happen. >> absolutely. thank you, don lemon, for the reporting, and you have very latest on when we might know how whitney houston might have died. let's talk about how her death will be commemorated and celebrated. obviously, loved and admired from millions around the word world and you heard from don how many are frustrated that they won't be able to celebrate, and yet her family will be at the new hope baptist church in new jersey, and it is where many people went to hear a young whitney houston sing, and i went to talk to reverend joe carter about his thoughts on the pop star, and the service on saturday. >> i hopray that we can honor h. >> and you it is a it is something that african-americans get right? you know how to grieve. >> yes, i believe we know how to mourn and grieve and to get it out. and in a way of hope, in a way of joy. the christian faith teaches that death is not the end, and so we know how to look forward to the

>> the last time i talked to you with michael jackson, i asked you what would you sing? staid "never say goodbye" and i think that's appropriate. and "i will always love you" that's what we would all sing to her because she's an amazing talent. >> absolutely. she was like family to me. i've known her family and her forever. it's just -- i mean, it's rough. i know that she's going to be remembered well. i just hope that people think of the positive things about her and not too much is played upon about her problems, you know, because everybody has problems. >> right. >> and she seemed that she was coming out of them and it's just a tragic thing to lose her this way. and i know that she was looking so forward to being at xlooifcl party this evening. that's why she was at the hotel in the first place. >> have you had a chance to speak to her mother, sissy? >> you know, i reached out to her today, but getting through is practically impossible today, because everybody is trying to get to her. so i haven't been able to speak to her as yet. but in the next day or so, i'm sure i

michael jackson the king of pop.tney houston was the queen of pop if you will and the news is really just spreading like wild fire and you have so many people not only los angeles and beverly hills residents, but a lot of tourive. la is the second largest place in the country and everyone coms to hollywood to get a glimpse of the hollywood sign and make the rounds . it is a saturday night and it is very busy . the eve of the grammies and a lot of folks from all over the country, in fact are out here and some of the people like my photographer can pan over there and they are getting ready to run across the street. there is a heavy police presence here, a heavy security presence and they are not allowing members of the public or press up very close to where all of the activities is going on. it is a true circus outside of this hotel, very busy hotel. golden globes were held here not long ago . and a lot of celebrities stay at this hotel when they come to la and hollywood. i want to talk you through the time line. i kno

>>guest: right, after michael jackson sony music sold 33 million albums which was great for michael jackson'se but not same thing happened now with whitney, her estate would not benefit. she does not have the same kind of cut that performers before her. >>neil: and she had a lot of friends and hangars on and she was generous. we have heard stories about that and the friends are not there after the fall. so, any lessons here? advice to would be superstars? >>guest: with celebrities now, they think they have more money than god at what point and they think it will keep coming, the gravy train will never stop and they get older and as younger counterparts emerge the paychecks, they are not the same. they do not end up --. >>neil: they think it will be permanent. the money will always come in and $100 million should be enough to cover you but you live up to that amount and spend beyond it. >>guest: exactly, exactly, that is what happened. and certainly when celebrities are involved down the dark roads of drugs, that is an expensive habit. it is. and she admitted that she dabbled in cocaine. and t

. >> we saw that with michael jackson as well.iously i covered the michael jackson death extensively he was so secretive with his children. would even put them in disguises when he would take them out in the public eye. there were very few images of his children, same can be said about whitney houston's child as well. it's absolutely difficult to wrap your mind around. also looking here on twitter, wanted to share some information saying that apparently whitney houston had been down there many times she did not have a star on the hollywood walk of fame. she was apparently selected to receive one a year ago but never set a dedication date. little tidbits, little facts like that are coming in that we're reading about but i want to again reiterate that our assignment desk here in los angeles has been on the phone with the l.a. county coroner's office. obviously that agency is one of the first agencies that would be dispatched. l.a. county coroner's office telling fox news channel that they have not received word of this news and that

don, don't say michael jackson was the king of pop, he is the king of pop. you have to correct that. it's people still live your brother and they will always love whitney houston. here is the thing, i sat behind you in court just a couple months ago. and my heart just went out to your mom, and your mom and i kind of bonded, and we would share our nods and hellos every day in court, and you said you knew whitney for such a long time. her mother, i can't help but think about cissy houston, and you have a few words for her and for the family and what she's probably dealing with right now, having gone through it with your mom? >> the last part of the question, i didn't catch, but you mentioned we were in court during the last trial, right? of my brother? >> yeah, and i was talking about cissy houston, having dealt with it yourself with your mother, have you reached out to her? can you tell the viewers what's on your mind when it comes to her and what she's possibly dealing with having dealt with it yourself? >> cissy was always nice to me, even from the very beg

know what i have to say, it's just it's odd -- do you remember you and i back in 2009 during michael jacksone of the jackson family and you texted -- you called me and you said, don, i know it all, what do you need, what information do you need? and then now we are here almost three years later talking about whitney houston, another death, another celebrity that -- who you knew personally as you knew michael jackson and his family. >> yeah. and i -- you're right. i was there, i knew michael very well but whitney i think -- i mean, whitney was the diva that brought music to a whole other level. and then she transitioned and did acting. she was a beautiful person. she was one of the most beautiful women you would see. she was one that didn't need make-up to look beautiful. and her talent is what we ought to remember and her sense of real, real excellence in music. she could sing with the best and o outsing them. she was just an excellent person in her artistry. yes, she had struggled and i hope we remember not what the scandal writers would write. i hope we remember this beautiful person that

don, don't say michael jackson was the king of pop, he is the king of pop. you have to correct that. it's people still live your brother and they will always love whitney houston. here is the thing, i sat behind you in court just a couple months ago. and my heart just went out to your mom, and your mom and i kind of bonded, and we would share our nods and hellos every day in court, and you said you knew whitney for such a long time. her mother, i can't help but think about cissy houston, and you have a few words for her and for the family and what she's probably dealing with right now, having gone through it with your mom? >> the last part of the question, i didn't catch, but you mentioned we were in court during the last trial, right? of my brother? >> yeah, and i was talking about cissy houston, having dealt with it yourself with your mother, have you reached out to her? can you tell the viewers what's on your mind when it comes to her and what she's possibly dealing with having dealt with it yourself? >> cissy was always nice to me, even from the very beg

michael jackson, amy winehouse, now, whitney houston.d past 50. >> so many people, yes. particularly in the music industry, there seems to be a particularly proneness to addictive behavior. >> let me ask diane about that. i will ask diane. when you've been written for these big stars, do you see them change? when they become fabulously famous, rich, successful, start getting into this whole drug scene, legal and illegal, do you see a change in them? >> i don't usually hang out with the artists i work with, i don't really see that. i see them change in different ways. i see the people. i see a lot of hangers on come around them and when they would come the first time in this studio, next time their five minders and all -- you know what i mean? that is kind of dangerous. what happens is you surround yourself with a bunch of yes people and a bunch of people that want like what deepak said, they get their identity from celebrities. >> i think that's a very good point. they become like blood sucking leaches. they get their own celebrity statu

. >> the last time i talked to you it was michael jackson.sked you what would you sing, you said never can say goodbye. one of his hits. whitney houston, i will always love you. that's what we all would sing to her. she is an amazing talent. >> absolutely. whitney was like family to me. i have known her family and her forever. people are just -- it's rough. i know she is going to be remembered well. i hope that people think of the positive things about her and not too much is played upon about her problems. everybody has problems. she seemed that she was coming out of them and it was a tragic thing to lose her this way. i know she was looking so forward to being at clive's party this evening. that was why she was at the beverly hilton hotel in the first place. >> have you speaked to her mother, cissy? >> i reached out to her, but of course getting to her is practically impossible today. everybody is trying to get to her. i haven't been able to speak to her as yet. in the next day or so, i'm sure i will speak with her. and get a chance to give

, but that story is not over, and people like michael jackson and tupac shakur, and aliyah and salena, and they have lives after the lives. people buy the albums in greater sums than when they were in life. with whitney houston we had a preview of the movie "sparkle" and it will be coming out, and we don't know what it will be about or what it will sound like, but she has a track record of the "bodyguard" and "waiting to exhale" and some of the best soundtracks. and you is the believe with "sparkle" based on the music of curtis mayfield, and something that we will want to listen to. >> chris witherspoon, we talk about what is next and where the legacy goes, and we can't help but talk about bobbi kristina, and we saw her weeping in tend and embracing her and others, and you have to wonder about this girl who in the wake of her mother's death collapsed not once or twice requiring hospitalization. these two were so close. she only 18 years old. she still needs her mom. >> yes, and i think that i know that she yesterday there were pictures of her after the wake, and she looked grea

isn't this, wouldn't you say, gina, on par with the michael jackson death?one, because it is just so sudden. you know, 48, that's -- we all know about her troubles. we all know about her tumultuous past and drug use which she has freely admitted to, but word was she was clean, that she was getting back to things, and she was supposed to be at the grammys tomorrow, and at the event tonight. so it clearly comes as a huge shock. and so many people that knew her, who watched her in the industry, grow up under clive davis and followed her career, are in deep shock. so many statements come out from those that looked up to her, those that emulated her like mariah carey, brandy, christina aguilera, and industry executives, the recording academy sent out a statement as well as quincy jones, alicia keyes was supposed to be at the event tonight mourning her, and so yes, absolutely. we felt the shock in the newsroom and los angeles in complete awe at this hour. >> thank you. we will check back in a moment. i want to go to lola ogunnaike from the "today" show. i can't he

they are the same issues like amy winehouse and michael jackson are not as famous. they are not speculated. thank you so much for taking the time to call in. >> piers, before we let smokey go, can i ask you something? >> for being positive, you want to focus on the positive and you are exactly right with that. what will you always love about whitney houston? >> whitney was family and i will always love whitney about whitney. whitney was family to me and i will always love her. she is one of the greatest voices in the history of music. that's what i say. >> thank you, smokey. >> thank you for letting me jump in. we will go to break with a scene from the preacher's wife. ♪ ♪ on december 21st, polar shifts will reverse the earth's gravitational pull and hurtle us all into space, which would render retirement planning unnecessary. but say the sun rises on december 22nd and you still need to retire, td ameritrade's investment consultants can help you build a plan that fits your life. we'll even throw in up to $600 when you open a new account or roll over an old 401(k). s

is this michael jackson redo? is it legal? we investigate. an amazing business story, a 19-year-old florida girl with no help markets herself onto the cover of sports illustrated. caution, you are about to enter the no-swin zone. "the o'reilly factor" begins right now. -- >>> i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us. issue we a welfare nation now? that's the subject of our talking points memo. as we reported last night, president obama's new budget is financially outrageous, adding $1.3 trillion in new spending and doesn't cut very much anywhere. it is obvious the president not very concerned about the debt. doesn't seem to think it's a big deal. but it is. if you want more facts, i direct tout wall street journal lead editorial today. bottom line, he is spending far more than any other president ever has. and tax revenues now because the economy remains shaky. so let's all do the math. president obama continues incredible government spending yet tax revenues remain low. it is obvious that he is rolling the dice. he understands the situation

don, don't say michael jackson was the king of pop, he is the king of pop. you have to correct that. it's people still live your brother and they will always love whitney houston. here is the thing, i sat behind you in court just a couple months ago. and my heart just went out to your mom, and your mom and i kind of bonded, and we would share our nods and hellos every day in court, and you said you knew whitney for such a long time. her mother, i can't help but think about cissy houston, and you have a few words for her and for the family and what she's probably dealing with right now, having gone through it with your mom? >> the last part of the question, i didn't catch, but you mentioned we were in court during the last trial, right? of my brother? >> yeah, and i was talking about cissy houston, having dealt with it yourself with your mother, have you reached out to her? can you tell the viewers what's on your mind when it comes to her and what she's possibly dealing with having dealt with it yourself? >> cissy was always nice to me, even from the very beg