michael oconol,. and bill herbert and steven miaki. >> that speaker over there. >> yes, i think that i can. my name is brendestobin you got close and thank you for the apology and i want to thank on behalf of the law library, i think that in times when the money is short that is the time that we need to expand the law library, especially now, you know the 50th anniversary, i think that we should be thinking about the fact that the type of justice that he receives should not be connected to the amount of money that you have. and i can tell you a a sole practitioner i can no longer afford west law in my home office than i can fly. and the guidance and the knowledge of the law librarians is critical to my ability to be able to do the amount of probono work that i do, to be able to serve some of the populations that i serve. half of, there must be dozens of cases where i would have been wasting a frightening amount of time on google scholar trying to figure out what cases were still relevant and what case

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>> good morning, my name is michael oconoll. >> could you pull the microphone down closer? >> sorry. >> good morning, i have a solo practice here in the city. i find the law library essential to my practice. but, i am only a tree in the forest. so the forest is pretty easy for the supervisors to see, the law library is right over there, and you could take a walk across the street and have a free minute, you will see three things. one is you will see a great many people from the public and lawyers using the resources. in fact often the tables are crowded. the second thing you will see is a library that is now 30,000 square feet and bursting at the seems. and the last thing that it might take a little observation is watching the library staff, and they are incredibly helpful and courteous and never have seen them not help someone who is there for help that gives the time, as an attorney, i find their help, helpful. that is all that i have to say, thank you >> thank you, very much. next speaker, please? >> good morning, my name is kathleen lord black and i am an attorney licen