michael petrella second. i like to make a request that the commission consider holding either an official meeting or informal meeting with one or two of you in the mission. i think it's really important for the fire department to get out into the mission not necessarily as a body but i think just as we see with please commissioners attending committee meetings regarding the murder of mariel woods, one or two of the commissioners, please commissioners are going at community meetings and therefore the brown act doesn't kick in, and this is allowing the police department to create better policing how to get i believe the commission and the fire department have the duty to get out to the mission. i think you have to bring this deputy and his information to the residence of the mission. with thought what his unit does. we also need a full discussion about the question are these arsons taking place. is speculation and gentrification driving the fires that may not necessarily meet your definition of arson, personall

michael petrella second. i like to make a request that the commission consider holding either an official meeting or informal meeting with one or two of you in the mission. i think it's really important for the fire department to get out into the mission not necessarily as a body but i think just as we see with please commissioners attending committee meetings regarding the murder of mariel woods, one or two of the commissioners, please commissioners are going at community meetings and therefore the brown act doesn't kick in, and this is allowing the police department to create better policing how to get i believe the commission and the fire department have the duty to get out to the mission. i think you have to bring this deputy and his information to the residence of the mission. with thought what his unit does. we also need a full discussion about the question are these arsons taking place. is speculation and gentrification driving the fires that may not necessarily meet your definition of arson, personall

michael petrella second. i like to make a request that the commission consider holding either an official meeting or informal meeting with one or two of you in the mission. i think it's really important for the fire department to get out into the mission not necessarily as a body but i think just as we see with please commissioners attending committee meetings regarding the murder of mariel woods, one or two of the commissioners, please commissioners are going at community meetings and therefore the brown act doesn't kick in, and this is allowing the police department to create better policing how to get i believe the commission and the fire department have the duty to get out to the mission. i think you have to bring this deputy and his information to the residence of the mission. with thought what his unit does. we also need a full discussion about the question are these arsons taking place. is speculation and gentrification driving the fires that may not necessarily meet your definition of arson, personall

michael petrella second. i like to make a request that the commission consider holding either an official meeting or informal meeting with one or two of you in the mission. i think it's really important for the fire department to get out into the mission not necessarily as a body but i think just as we see with please commissioners attending committee meetings regarding the murder of mariel woods, one or two of the commissioners, please commissioners are going at community meetings and therefore the brown act doesn't kick in, and this is allowing the police department to create better policing how to get i believe the commission and the fire department have the duty to get out to the mission. i think you have to bring this deputy and his information to the residence of the mission. with thought what his unit does. we also need a full discussion about the question are these arsons taking place. is speculation and gentrification driving the fires that may not necessarily meet your definition of arson, personall

excuse me, do let >> michael petrella seconded by public comment has to do with the lack of a writtennd the minutes, she presented a verbal report and actually will today. i'm asking the chief, as a vast chief craig sir of the police department to prepare a written report at. i also believe all the deputies were going to come up here and make presentations have a duty to make a written report that will be printed and put on the table here will also be available on the web and make it easier for the public to follow the operations and activities of this department. i really don't think it is enough that we get these written reports about what is verbally said on the chief and the deputies. we need written reports about activities and i hope those reports will start coming very soon and the new year. thank you. >> thank you. is there any other public comment on this item? any questions, comments from commissioners commissioners on the minute? can i have a motion? with sex all in favor, minutes are approved. >> approval for the minutes for the regular meeting on december 3. december 17,