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invading the wells fargo center in philadelphia for games three and four of this series, sixers owner michael rubin went as far as to buy more than 2000 tickets to give them wait to sixers fans for last night's game, but none of that seems to face york star jalen brunson, who played in that very same arena in college at villanova. he was a man the mission, scoring 14 of his 41 points in the fourth quarter, brunson also had 12 assists for the game, getting josh hart for the last one in what became the game winning three with 24 seconds left to play new york is on to the second round with a thrilling 118115. when renew that. >> this wasn't going to be easy i mean, even with the lead that we had, now, we tried to obviously play with the lead, but we knew that ever going to be fighting i mean, every game has been like this, so it doesn't matter really high your started does not tell you finish just damian lillard back in the lineup for the buffs against the pacers. he put up a game-high 28, but that was not enough. indiana got a total team effort in this one op top in gave them 21 t.j. mcconnell's addi

. >>> the owners of the philadelphia 76ers, alongside of fanatics ceo michael rubin, who used to be thef the 76ers are buying and distributing more than 2,000 tickets for tonight's game six against the new york knicks, according to a tweet from michael rubin, who said we absolutely cannot let knicks fans take over our arena again he said the tickets would be given -- kind of cool -- to first responders, healthcare professionals and other philly-based organizations as long as you can prove you're not like a plant, not really a 76ers fan. this is after a large contingent of knicks fans showed up for games three and game four. this has been an unbelievable series tonight's game, given what happened at the end of the last game -- >> what doyou think? how many games does this go? >> i want it to go -- >> all the way >> i do. and i've never been a -- when larry bird came and magic, you know, i was living in boston, i kind of have an affinity for the celtics, but also my daughter was, you know, i like the 76ers, too, at times. but jalen brunson, suddenly this but jalen brunson, suddenly this i

in terms of michael cohen, i agree with you that, again, lisa rubin had this point, we will talk to her later in this hour, we got the best version of michael cohen yesterday. the question today was what they're going to be some blowup moment or was there going to be a moment of colonel jessup and a few good men where he slams the podium and says like yes, i'm lying. whatever, i don't know what the fantasy was. you are right that it kept computer the entire time and he maintained that kind of more quiet, chastened version of himself. a few plumbers of the other michael cohen. >> like to do: a cheeto faced dictator? i'm matching up all the assertions together. he had sort of relinquished like his rage in a lot of ways, for the most part. and, that seemed really powerful to me. >> i will say, and we will talk about this more throughout the evening, i will say on cross, there were moments where he seemed nervous, shifty, a little cottonmouth, going for water. his eyes were darting. there were a few very long pauses. when you ask someone a question, that paz doesn't make you think like now

michael cohen very much related to donald trump though. and the southern district of new york, federal analog to the d.a. here investigating the stormy daniels payment. >> lisa rubin has a little analysis from the overflow room. she says blanche keeps trying to impeach michael cohen and other people's records of cohen's purported statements. as media articles relying on anonymous source, cohen has distanced himself from most of these statements yet blanche is doing it again. focusing on notes from a meeting with the special counsel's office. >> that is typical and permissible. if you and i were in a meeting, you're a journalist, you take notes. the source then later asked about it. they don't know what you wrote, if you got it correct. maybe you did, maybe you didn't. you could be asked is that what you said and you can show your notes but i'm entitled to be like, yes, that is what i said. or you know what, i don't know what katy tur was writing down. i wasn't in charge of what she wrote down. and that's not, i don't think that's what i said. so when it's someone else's notes, it's not as good as when it's your own. >> blanche says you said by speaking with them,

as the former president's former fixer , michael cohen , will be on the stand tomorrow and closing arguments could come after that andrew wiseman and lisa rubin are coming up first. a congressman will join me in a few minutes. >>> a supreme court justice and upside down flag, and the growing crisis of confidence in our highest court. >>> a deep dive into the gop relationship with putin is unlike you have any -- unlike anything you have seen before. a comedian is here with more. >> and a little more than a week, donald trump could be a convicted felon. not wishful thinking but a fact. it is hard to imagine that the 12 men and women who make up this jury don't know what is on the shoulders right now. tomorrow, they will watch michael cohen return to the stand for more cross- examination and on tuesday they could be watching closing arguments. important to keep in mind the prosecution has laid out a strong case for any measure, that is what every legal eagle will tell you, michael cohen testified to christian piekos about the hush money scheme , which was corroborated by loads of witnesses and documents before that. michael cohen testified that

from not campaigning. >> let's bring in former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. michael how he says this went down directly ordered by donald trump to send the check for $130,000, quoting donald trump as saying just do it. >> yep. >> apologies to nike. what did we learn yesterday from michael cohen? >> michael cohen testified to a number of conversations, willie, that he had profitly with donald trump or other participants, sometimes david pecker, for example, allen weisselberg. again and again michael cohen showed that when he said he made these payments in coordination with and at the direction of donald trump, he really meant it. you will recall that yesterday i sat here with you and said i'm interested to see how michael cohen fleshes out that phrase at the direction of. was that code, meaning did trump wink, winks, nod, nod, take care of this, or was he explicit in asking michael cohen to make sure that stormy daniels got paid and then also equally explicit in how they were going to account for that through paperwork. michael cohen left that unambiguous yesterday. d

rubin. we were all at the courthouse today. lisa, you have seen michaeler did and that was the civil fraud trial. it was apparently a completely different michael cohen. i'm trying to figure out, what changed? who got to him? he has the same lawyer now that he had then when he was a very messy witness. >> so, i think a couple of things. i think the amount of time the district attorney's office invested in michael cohen has been significant. although i can't say for sure and i don't have insight into what the attorney general's office did with him, my sense is that the da's office has done a better job putting their arms around michael cohen, owning him as their witness and ensuring he is well prepped for today's testimony. that might have been less true with the attorney general's office and said that casey was far less important witness and that is with the caveat that i agree to to some extent that michael cohen is not as critical here as people think he is. certainly he was a minimal figure and the disparity in prep may have accounted for that. the oth

michael cohen had said was with donald trump. joining us now, msnbc's legal correspondent, lisa rubin. s in the courthouse for the moment, the building crescendo before the lunch break where todd blanche says that was a lie, and he seemed to catch michael cohen in a moment where he was very sure of the phone call and what the content was with the prosecution, and suddenly with the defense there was some wiggling. explain what happened. >> so michael cohen had testified that on october 24th as they were negotiating the stormy daniels settlement, meaning he with stormy's lawyer, keith davidson, he reached out to keith schiller, then former president trump's body guard and asked to speak to trump over the phone. it was routine for him to do that if he needed to reach trump, and he says on october 24th, he notified them he was going forward with the deal, and trump approved it. what the defense showed was a series of text messages showing that michael cohen had grown annoyed by harassing phone calls. at that point, schiller was the liaison to the secret as much as. keith's response was call

michael cohen expected to finally take the stand. back with us msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubinors say two more witnesses, if cohen is coming on monday, and is one of them, who might the other be? >> i think we're all guessing. this isn't like a typical trial where a prosecution discloses who the witness is. there are concerns because of the safety or threat or intimidation to the witnesses, so the prosecution has kept this buttoned up and telling the defense who is coming to testify, but we understand michael cohen is going tonight blockbuster witness on monday. >> lisa joshua steinglass said it's possible the case will rest its case by the end of next week. who should we expect trump's lawyers to call? >> they don't have to call anyone but if they do they've notified folks in public filings of three potential witnesses. one bradley smith who used to be a commissioner of the fec and if he comes and testifies as an expert witness, he'll talk about the fact that the payment of hush money to stormy daniels, at least the way he understand it, does not constitute a campaign finance

rubin. they talked about the history between michael cohen and donald j.mp, how it was he came to work for the trump organization. he was introduced to the trump organization through don jr. back in 2007 also with investment properties in trump international tower. he was asked to work on some contracts for donald trump in which the bill would amount up to $100,000. he was asked if, in fact, he was paid $100,000. he said, no, but he was subsequently then offered a job for $375,000 plus bonuses as well. so they're kind of walking through the history here between both michael cohen and donald j. trump. let me just read one interaction as well, if i can, guys. cohen asked the first was so that he knew i was on it, i was doing what he had asked. this was with regards to questions about whether or not he interacted with the media when it came to donald j. trump. the second was building to obtain credit, so he understood i was accomplishing what he wanted. how did that make you feel? he said like i was on top of the world. establishing the loyalty and the long-s

rubin. it's good to have you here. >> i'm happy to be back. >> you're usually down at the courthouse. so you saw michaelrday. i know he was much more controlled for the prosecution. how did he do with todd blanche? >> he did better with todd blanche than he had done with either alaina allay -- habba. ultimately cohen said, you want to call it a lie, i'll call it a lie. for the most part, he did a good job of maintaining his cool. we haven't gotten to the central facts yet. everything blanche did was about trying to dismantle cohen's credibility as a witness, as a person. >> do you have a sense of how much longer the cross is going to go for michael cohen? >> based on a side bar the parties had yesterday with judge merchan, we can expect todd blanche will go all the bay through the end of the day tomorrow. expect things we haven't seen yet to actually come tomorrow. >> okay. so when he's done with him and after the redirect happens and another cross and redirect, is it your expectation that the defense is going to call any witnesses? >> if i were a betting person, i would say probably not, and if they do

that laura jarrett just gave inside the courtroom as well as what lisa rubin is telling us, the da established the fact that michael cohen didn't do enough work to receive that type of payment or retainer from donald trump. in fact, they're not objecting to the testimony, the line of questioning from the prosecution, i should say, this line of questioning from the defense which might play to the fact that they're also getting this read from the jurors that they're tiring from this line of questioning, and they will likely take this up during redirect. >> the law of diminishing returns, in this case this could be a moment where the prosecution is seeing what's going on and saying, you know what, that's enough. >> the prosecution is reading the room. they obviously think this is overkill. maybe the defense should have stopped at the gotcha at the redfish, red finch, whatever the name of the internet company is. a lot of this plays on todd blanche's opening statement where i think he made a mistake when he said the $420,000 was not a reimbursement for michael cohen to pay stormy daniels. he backed himself into a corne

rubin has some interesting analysis. she's saying that prosecutor hoffinger has taken michael cohen through the banking documents, the execution of the nda in excruciating detail, as we have been watching for many hours. she says from other witnesses, include gary farro, and keith davidson, also a lot of corroboration of testimony from david pecker, but she argues that seeing this history jukt posed provides gloss on the transactions and the ones that prosecutors needed most. through cohen's retelling, we see trump and weisselberg interspersed in the familiar events, provided cohen's testimony as credible. that's what we were talking about earlier with circumstantial evidence. as all of this is going on, you see the phone records between donald trump and michael cohen, and i guess if you're the prosecution, you're going to argue, how could they not be talking about this thing that was occupying so much of michael cohen and keith davidson and david pecker, so much of their attention during the campaign. how could it have been about anything else. >> you know, there's so much secrecy surrounding this. the names in the nda are se

legal adviser to michael cohen, lanny davis, thank you very much. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubinl quick, this is going fast. do you expect this week to move quickly? >> i think that's all up to a man named todd blanche, who we understand going to be doing the cross-examination. i expect the direct to be surgical and relatively quick, mika, but how long the defense intends to spend excoriating michael cohen for past mistakes and perceived inconsistencies in his testimony, that's up to them. >> okay. >>> coming up, the latest on the -- thank you, lisa -- wave of pro-palestinian protests on college campuses, as comedian jerry seinfeld's commencement speech at duke university spurs walkouts. >> just for a minute, i mean, it was a great speech. >> i think it was right before it started, yeah. >> yeah. i mean, it was a great speech. 99.9% of the people there loved the speech. yeah, a couple people walked out. >> we'll cover it. we'll show you what happened. >>> plus, a postal service worker makes the trip from texas to arkansas to deliver long, lost world war ii letters. >> incredible

michael to be charitable or selfless. he is the kind of person who seeks credit. andrew weissman, glenn kirschner, lisa rubins a pretty important moment. >> that was a really important moment. it was followed by what i think was an equally important moment, when prosecutor asked hope hicks, did he say anything about the timing of the news reporting? that seemed to refresh your recollection. she said oh yes, he wanted to know how it was playing, meaning how it was playing for the populace and my thoughts and opinion on this story versus having a different kind of story before the campaign had michael not made that payment. i think mr. trump's opinion was that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have that story, out before the election. prosecutor, "no further questions." that was devastating. it showed everybody that trump had been through the mental calculus at the time of the election of what would have happened had they not conspired together to pay off stormy daniels. >> adam, hope hicks did a very strong delivery for the district attorney about how big a bomb went o

now is lisa rubin, our msnbc legal correspondent inside the court is today and charles coleman, former prosecutor and now civil rights attorney. lisa, let me start with you. the idea that michaelas like a single white female character in trump lead, is the point of that to suggest that cohen might have acted on his own to make the story go away for donald trump? >> yes. >> did they do that? >> no, i don't think they did, alex. i think they were trying to show he was motivated to do it alone and was so obsessed with trump that having been spurned by him he is engaging in a scorched-earth strategy to make the man's life miserable in a way that is undeserving of whatever trump is done that could be criminally charged and i don't think they succeeded. i wrote down, after reading the cross-examination, all of the themes they floated today and not a single one was a winner today on this cross. he is media hungry, but he was before, too. he is wealthy. yes, he was before, too. he would not take direction from the d.a. in terms of shutting up about the case, okay, but does that make him non-credible? they insinuated he was leaking information to the press and never got anywhere with t

rubin. let's get to lawrence o'donnell. he's been in the court overflow room. you've been there, it feels like, every day. what struck you today about michaelen on the stand? >> michael cohen delivered what the prosecution need him to deliver. including the phrase false business record. he was asked early in his testimony this morning when going through the invoices for his services, that he did not provide, whether those were false records. he said they were. and more importantly, the records created by the trump organization, paying him. he said were false business records, including the check stubs that came along with each one of those signed checks, signed by donald trump. he stressed in his testimony, as the d.a. brought out, that the creation of the false business records was a trump organization idea. that's to say, michael cohen just expected to get one of these $35,000 checks every month. he wasn't getting them. he was told, send us an invoice. send us an invoice, so we can put in for the payment. so, michael cohen's sending of the invoice is what generates the false business records. and it wasn't michael cohen's idea to send tho

michael cohen is being asked about resolution consultants, and the purpose of the account when he was giving this to first republic bank, and it's important, lisa rubins inside the courtroom, we have seen these documents before, but hoffinger, the description of the account was it truthful, cohen says no. did first republic bank know what this was for? cohen, i'm not sure if they would have opened it to say, hey, to pay off a porn star in a nondisclosure agreement. did you ever finalize this? cohen, it dawned on me it's the name of a company of someone i know and didn't think he would appreciate if i used it and changed it to essential consultants llc. why is it important for michael cohen to testify that he was being misleading to first republic bank. why would first republic bank not be chill with this payment if they knew what it was for. >> banks are regulated. >> more than ever, banks are heavily regulated and they have questions when you want mortgages. generally speaking, you cannot get loans for this purpose. banks are heavily regulated, and in fact, i know from money laundering trials and otherwise, there's a whole beehive of activity that g

rubin, andrew weissmann. i want to put the smoking guns on the screen if we have them both. that is the smoking gun. that is the bank statement that shows that michaeler to pay stormy daniels and then in yellow is handwritten notes made by the trump ceo. on the right side, the handwritten notes in michael cohen's hand, not highlighted. that indicates what michael cohen would like to be reimbursed for. you see there is the $130,000 in the yellow highlighted space. that $130,000, michael cohen says, is the $130,000 that appears in that bank statement as having been sent to stormy daniels lawyer that he has to be reimbursed for. there is another document -- there it is. that was his interpretation in order to put this in paycheck form of what we just saw in allison -- in allen weisselberg's handwritten notes on the other document. those were both on a giant screen in court today and referred to by the prosecutor as the smoking guns in the case. lisa rubin, when a prosecutor says, which they don't often say, by the way, this is the smoking gun, they usually have an accumulation of evidence. they rarely have something they want to give that way, but we h

michael cohen's testimony alone, so having david pecker's testimony as well, to make sure they corroborate each other is a really good sign for the prosecution. >> i also want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin who has been inside the courtroom all morning long. okay, lisa, bring us inside that courtroom. your specific observations and if you have clues to what the jurors may be doing here. >> reporter: it's always difficult, chris, to read the tea leaves based on juror body language, but i will tell you there were some points in time where there were more jurors taking notes than there weren't, and i've never seen such an attentive jury. all the body language was focused on judge merchan as he was re-reading the jury instructions this morning, and there was one in particular that made me kind of stand up at attention because this is when i noticed the pen writing pick up a little bit, and that's where they got to the definition of intent, and in particular, this part. in determining whether donald trump had the requisite criminal intent, the instructions say the jury may consider the person's conduct and all of the circumstances surrounding that conduct including, but not limited to the fol

rubin, sue craig, danny cevallos, and kristy greenberg. chuck, jessica, you're going to stay with me as our coverage of the hush money trial continues ahead. including both sides, how they're preparing for michaelny on monday. keep it here on msnbc. ep it her. ♪ ♪cause you're free♪ ♪to do what you want to do♪ ♪do what you want♪ ♪do what you want♪ if you're living with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis or active psoriatic arthritis, symptoms can sometimes take you out of the moment. now there's skyrizi, so you can show up with clearer skin... ...and show it off. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ with skyrizi, you could take each step with 90% clearer skin. and if you have psoriatic arthritis, skyrizi can help you get moving with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to skyrizi, there's nothing like clearer skin and less joint pain, and that means everything. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ ask your doctor about how skyrizi could help with your

michael cohen. the second note was for the jury instructions to be read to them again. let's bring in former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. she was in the courtroom yesterday afternoon. lisa, good morning. another day of deliberation today. i guess about 4 1/2 hours of it yesterday for this jury. what do you read into the two notes that were sent back, the substance of them? what do you think the jury was trying to get at here? >> i think the jury is trying to understand the formation of the conspiracy and donald trump's participation in it and is taking very seriously the instructions of josh steinglass, who said repeatedly to them that david pecker's testimony was critical and they should look back at it. for example, willie, at the end of his summation, he was trying to get the jurors to focus on evidence of donald trump's direct involvement. one of the things that he said to them was, you will recall that pecker testified that after that meeting took place, mr. trump personally called pecker to discuss the mcdougle matter. he explained the defendant told him that he had spoken to michael and that michael had told him

rubin, thank you very much. that's it for me this hour. katy tur will be back in this chair on monday as part of our special coverage of michael cohen's expected testimony in donald trump's criminal trial. i'll see you tomorrow night on "nbc nightly news" saturday. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ >> it's friday. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. after tense and dramatic testimony, filled with more than a few moments that would make any one of us blush, the trump election interference hush money trial today got down to brass tacks, a flood of evidence, phone call data, texts, tweets, documents, that cast new light on the mechanics of the scheme to silence stormy daniels and conceal the hush money payments. they set the stage for one star witness and possibly the appearance of another witness who is not on anyone's list to testify. read out loud in court today messages sent between stormy daniels' publicist, gina rodriguez, and the "national enquirer" editor dylan howard. these text messages show that those two were in talks for months about buying stormy daniels' story. on october 7th, 2016 -- april 7th, 2016, rodriguez text but

michael cohen. the former president also denies any sexual encounter with daniels. let's bring in former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubinlisa, a little bit of a day off yesterday. back at it this morning. where do we pick up from where we were on tuesday? >> well, where we were on tuesday was sort of a scorched earth cross-examination of stormy daniels. but among the subjects touched, guess which one wasn't really touched? whether or not the episode happened as she described it. susan necheles really going after her for a variety of perceived inconsistencies in her story. most notably, whether or not in 2011 she had been approached in a parking lot in las vegas while with her infant daughter and threatened not to reveal more of the story. that was largely a focus of the cross-examination. one of the things i'll be looking for today is, do they actually return to the story itself and try to counter its voracity, or do they poke around at the margins, trying to make stormy daniels seem not credible and focused only on money? at one point, they did try to focus on her interest in money, and i thought she got the better of

michael cohen and donald trump spoke themselves directly. it is not clear whether this is landing or not. let's see how todd blanche uses the remainder of his time today. >> all right. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubinthe courthouse. thank you so much. we'll be watching. >>> coming up on "morning joe," as we said, espn's pablo torre will join us to go over the big weekend in sports. including the pair of game sevens in the nba playoffs and yesterday's thrilling finish at the pga championship. >>> plus, roger bennett will be here to talk about manchester city's historic premier league title. "morning joe" is coming right back. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis held me back... now with skyrizi, i'm all in with clearer skin. ♪ things are getting clearer...♪ ( ♪♪ ) ♪ i feel free... ♪ ♪ to bear my skin, yeah that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ ( ♪♪) with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. and most people were clearer even at 5 years. skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions... ...and an increased risk of infections... ...or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms,...