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michael steele, here's my question. does the book change any minds in your party? do we all watch together as mitch mcconnell, for one, just one member of that red wall, finds a way to say he's not bothered by asking china to help in the re-election? >> at this point i don't think the book changes anything in terms of what republicans are going to do. they've already exposed what they're going to do. we saw the play from the mueller hearings and from the impeachment trial. so the book at this point is more like a coda, you know. it's just like the final note on a song that we are all too woefully familiar with. i don't know how this incentivizes the gop or mitch mcconnell as the leader to take a different tone or tack with china at this point. you know, there will be the typical, you know, platitudes about, you know, the potential threat that china has or any of our adversaries may have in our upcoming election and, you know, the bromides that go with that. but other than that, i don't see what changes at this point. >> steve schmidt, is bolton's courage dependent

i take michael steele's point.the position where he is the seatbelt wearing mini vandal driver to donald trump's maserati without brakes. the recklessness, the disregard for the safety of anybody in that car with him seems to give joe biden not just the challenge about it that looks really different but the opportunity to look like he's protecting the people that support him. >> yeah. rallies are trump's things. a 50,000 person rally, that's trump at his zeenith. you remember in 2016, he came out to the smoke machine and said i alone can fix it when did he his convention in cleveland four years ago. i think he's desperate for that kind of moment again. rallies, big speeches are not joe biden's thing. that's not where he excels. he excels in a quiet moment. he excels one-on-one. the kind of, the event did he yesterday about how we can open up the economy safely while dealing with, while still fighting covid-19. these are good moments for biden. so they can build a convention that some parts, what happened in milwauk

let me go to you first, michael steele. we talked in the last segment with valerie jarrett about the message of former president obama and some of the things that he had began in his administration. we have not heard this present president address specific legislation or policies to address police misconduct. we've heard him talk about militarization of certain parts of the country around those that were violent. we heard him make references in general about the killing of george floyd, though -- i'm saying killing, he didn't. but we've not heard him address from a policy point of view what he would propose that his administration, his justice department and the congress do. i've seen him more aggressive and specific for michael flynn than i've seen him do for george floyd. >> yeah, reverend al, that's not lost on nen at this point, particularly as this conversation, this national conversation around the militarization of our police force, which has been sort of an undercurrent conversation for quite some time now, some six

from the "washington post" white house reporter ashley parker, michael steel and former fbi officialsosen berg. chuck, your podcast is called "the oath." we all see a new president sworn in raising their hand usually on a bible that means something to that president. everyone that goes to work in the white house takes an oath too. you swear that you could never be any sort of threat for blackmail that could endanger state secrets. did john bolton up hold his oath to the country by saving these serious allegations for a book? >> you promise to serve and protect the constitution, not a person. that's the power of the oath. it's not to an individual. it's to the constitution of the united states. i don't think it was a bright shining moment for bolton to withhold this information during the impeachment inquiry and to unleash it in a book. it may be true. it may be false. it sounds like exactly something donald trump would do, but it would have been nice to have heard it when it really mattered. >> as adam schiff said, this is new, firsthand -- a witness with firsthand knowledge of conduc

of the great state of maryland, now the host of the michael steele podcast. good evening and welcome to you all. ashley, the president made the choice to tweet out what he tweeted, that this 75-year-old protester, well known by all the buffalo area western new york protesters, apparently had the technical skill to be carrying out electronic scanning of police officers via his phone. a friend of his interviewed tonight finds it remarkable he can do anything with his phone except place calls. so has the president decided to go to war with the demographic you've got? >> well, put it this way. the president -- his aides were debating him giving a speech and they still are, sort of addressing the current turmoil. it would be a speech, not quite a speech on race, but on race and on policing and on law and order and against the backdrop of all of this, as they were discussing it even earlier this week, they knew it was possible -- in fact, they feared it was possible that the president would say something or tweet something, and then this morning he did just that. t

this is a great, great day. >> michael steele, that seemed to me a little tone-deaf. >> it's not only tone-deaf, it's borderline blasphemous in light of what happened to mr. floyd. i doubt george floyd is in heaven looking down going oh, gee, great jobs report. are you kidding me? again, it speaks to just how out of step this man is with real life. this reality television presidency is inconsistent, incompatible with democracy, it's incompatible with governing, it's incompatible with everyday people trying to realize the american dream. and that came to a shattering halt on may 25th when police abused the privileges and the rights and the freedom of mr. floyd by killing him. so we have to account for that as americans. and that's what this process has been about. yeah, it's nice 2.5 million people got their jobs back but it does not take away from the underlying reality and truth that a man in the course of all of this was killed by the government. because the police represent the government, right? as they protect and serve us, and the reality of it is as president, is we saw what yo

and michael steele, a former senior advisor to jeb bush and john boehner.ndrea mitchell, you have known john bolton the longest of all of us in this conversation. i want to get into the details in a minute. but tell us about the john bolton you know. tell us about how credible you believe he is on things like this. >> he is credible. he obviously has a point of view, he has a deeply conservative point world view. he was known as a real bureaucratic infighter who clashed notably with colin powell when he was over at the state department under colin powell during the first bush years, george w. bush years, but this is a yale lawyer. this is a man who understands intelligence as a consumer of intelligence, and for him to not understand the classification process is absurd. he is someone who won most of the battles that he fought. he was never properly confirmed as u.n. ambassador because of objections on capitol hill to him at the time, but he was a recess appointment and did serve for a year as u.n. ambassador. so he is very sophisticated about superpowered s

michael steel, you this as well. this is a live look at america's third largest city.s is chicago, illinois, a sea of protestors making their way down that thoroughfare. i'm not exactly sure which street of highway e this is. but you can see the demonstrators there. largely peaceful. again from this vandage point, so far, totally peaceful. from chicago to philadelphia. msnbc has been on the ground there. amman, what is the scene there in philly tonight after a fairly tense day yesterday. >> yeah, craig, you can actually see behind me, a crowd of marchers protesters, very peaceful. this ises a peaceful as it gets, multiracial, multigenerational. they are the chants we have grown to learn over the past couple days. they are saying the names of george floyd, breonna taylor. they are condemning the racist cops and systems that lead to police brutality. we are an hour away from the cure f curfew, and philadelphia has had tense days, the curfew is 6:00 p.m. today, it has been extended because it's primary day. polls are up until about 8:30 and the pre protestors maintained t

michael steele, you and i both have known mike for quite some time. lives are at risk. we hear now that up to 200,000 people may die from the coronavirus by the fall. and mike pence says that there's no second wave. anthony fauci, he agrees with him. he says there's no second wave because we're still in the first wave! we're still in the first wave. and mike pence is running around with "mission accomplished" banners behind him, all because that's what he thinks donald trump demands of him, to lie to the american people about the worst health care crisis that's faced this country in over a century. >> well, joe, the graph that you showed says a lot, speaks volumes, number one. it's one thing to have nobel laureates in science. it's another thing to listen to those nobel laureates in science. and that's, again, i think reflected in the graph, in the sense that the administration has not taken seriously what the warnings have been from the scientific community. so it goes to what mika said a little bit ago about leadership. it is about how the leadership not only takes in

joining me, michael steele.n lemire, white house reporter, of course, for the associated press and jonathan capehart, opinion writer for the "washington post." jonathan capehart, first to you. the impact of this, this ruling is, is so broad and really does change the landscape of american civil rights and comes from the trump court it comes from, you know, justice gorsuch, of course, justice roberts, who was not appointed by president trump. >> right. it is a mind-blowing decision, and i think pete said it well. i can't remember which hour i saw pete say it. maybe top of your hour, andrea, where he noted how before, this ruling is probably, is more important than the marriage equality ruling that came down five years ago this month. then people like me were able to legally get married, same-sex couples legally able to get married thanks to the supreme court decision. but this, pete pointed out, everyone needs a job. everybody needs a job. so even if you are lgbtq and don't want to get married, you still need a j

steele, i don't miss normal. normal was michael brown being killed, sandra bland being killed, tamir rice being killed, a 12-year-old in ohio playing with a toy. that happened under a democratic administration. the truth of the matter is no matter who's in office, america was built on the backs of black people but has never actually protect the those same black people. so i don't miss normal, and i think if you ask most of the folks in the streets right now, they don't miss normal either. the status quo worked for some and not for everyone. and the truth is justice is not just a moral choice. it is the only lasting choice. to your second question, brian, we saw an uprising in 2014 in ferguson and in baltimore. we've seen uprisings long before that, and chances are unless we see legitimate and transformative changes to actually create justice in people's everyday lives urgently, we will see rebellions and uprisings again. so the question is not will we return to normal. the question is whether or not we will take the opportunity we

joining me now, phil rucker, white house bureau chief with "the washington post" and michael steel, former chair for the republican national committee. good morning to both of you, good to see you. michael, let me start with you. this rally today, this is the kickoff, it was planned for a while. the kickoff to donald trump's campaign because he is really tired of being stuck inside and not being at these rallies that he really feeds off of. but boy, the timing is interesting because it comes after, as i just articulated, a very, very, very rough week for the president. >> yeah, and that's really the only timing that matters. the president has been taking a number of shots recently as a result of the depression in the economy, certainly the civil unrest on the murder of george floyd and of course covid-19, which has been an underlying thread since january or february. so for him, this is a matter of how he begins to turn the narrative around, how he begins to shape the stories that you're going to be reporting on, ali. and that's what the president's main goal here. he's not concerned about

so i think their energy is key to that. >> let me, michael steele, pick up on that point that cornelld here for a moment. the biden campaign and dnc announcing they raised $81 million in may, marking their best month yet. the trump campaign hasn't released their numbers for last month yet. is there any concern in that? trump campaign and rnc sea think raised $14 million in one day, sunday on the presidents' 74th birthday as he touted. but overall, how big of a concern should this be? >> i don't think it is going to be much of a concern for the republican party when it comes to fund-raising. the one thing that this administration, its political shop, the rnc and all the ancillary, you know, entities have been able to do with the high degree of success. cornell's point, the democrats have been playing catch up in this space for quite some time. they have the benefit of having a nominee now that they can consolidate a lot of that money and energy behind. but trump has been there before, trump has raised over a quarter of a billion dollars last year. so, you know, the idea that they're go

michael steele this not knew to lebron james.th he wore a i can't breathe t-shirt on the floor. he has spoken out. but we also have seen people we don't always see speaking out because they're worried about alienating certain constituencies we tha're coming saying we have to use our massive celebrity to make change in this country. >> i welcome lebron's voice in this conversation, particularly as a lot of us are on the front lines voting, fighting for vote by mail and a process this november that will allow unfettered access to the ballot box. some may criticize lebron and say you're at a point in your career where you can make these statements and you can risk something. but this is not that. this isn't about what's in your bank and the last line of his quote is the important part of it. this is who i am as a black man in america. and as a black man in america in this moment, i need to stand with other black men and women. i have to stand with my community to assert our right -- rights under this constitution. and if i have the

. >>> joining me is political analyst michael steele. michael, always great to have you. let start, though, with these somber and difficult events that have been playing out this weekend. i mean, what's your initial reaction to what you saw unfold in atlanta? it does seem as though we're at least seeing some change in how public officials are responding. there was no delay in this particular case, but at the same time, here we are again, talking about a black man who has been killed at the hands of police officers. >> yeah, kasie, that's the critical point there. the public response by officials, okay, the lockdown, they fired people. they resigned. all of that is important and it's good to see it happen but the core reality remains. it goes to the heart of what your previous guest was talking about. two things, one, we're tired. we're tired. i had another conversation with my son about all of this. you know, you can see the kpas be -- his face he wants to engage in the everyday goings and comings of life. there is this thing hanging over his head. the community is tired

as michael steele points out, the question in november is it in ours? in all of ours? >> yes. >> yes. >> sam stein and michael steele, never enough of you two. please come back. i could have talked to you guys for another hour. >>> that does it for our hours. our coverage continues with the amazing katie towur after a qui break. amazing katie towur after a quik break. come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. i know that every time that i suit up, there is a chance that that's the last time. 300 miles an hour, thats where i feel normal. i might be crazy but i'm not stupid. having an annuity tells me that i'm protected. during turbulent times, consider protected lifetime income from an annuity as part of your retirement plan. this can help you cover your essential monthly expenses. learn more at protectedincome.org . i'm an associate here at amazon. step onto the blue line, sir. this device is giving us an accurate temperature check. you're good to go. i have to take care of my coworkers. that's how i am. i have a son, and he said, "one day

that's michael steele commenting.ressman bobby rush on twitter saying this is absolutely outrageous and disgusting. this graphic tells every single fox news viewer that black lives can be exchanged for market gain. a couple of reactions to this. look this was based on a "wall street journal" story that pointed out that the markets don't seem to care a lot about civil unrest or for that matter the unemployment rate. you know, we all saw the markets been on a tear lately in spite of all the troubling news on multiple front. those are true statements. those are interesting facts. but to try to graph it and bring up the mlk assassination and other terrible incidents in modern times and show how the stock market reacted seemed beyond the pale and there's been a widespread critique and condemnation of that fox segment. >> you wonder if there will be a consequence for somebody at some point. brian, i want to ask you as we watch all of these protests, in big cities, los angeles, new york, washington, atlanta, small towns are

joining us now for what could be more on the impact of this race, msnbc political analyst, michael steelemichael, i've been thinking about this race and i've been thinking about the timing of this race and symbolically, steve king winning it, could it come at a worse time for the republican brand, if he wins this primary today? >> yeah, it would be a blow that would be very difficult to recover, because of the national repercussion. you know, steve king will be all smiles. but i don't know if the gop, senate, and the house would be all smiles. and certainly, given the way republican leadership has come out and stood with the president and that stunt at st. john's yesterday, in the face of all of the anguish around not just that act, but the overall narrative of republicans on the heels of the death of mr. floyd, it could be a very tough conversation to have with large communities of people. >> you know, michael steele, it's interesting, we chronicled this in "first read" today. after charltsvilottesville, pau ryan, quite a few republicans came out and didn't like what the president said a

. >> michael steele, we'll go to you. you were cracking about this waiver that folks will be attended to sign if they, they will be expected to sign. on the one hand saying covid-19 is up in ashes. but at the same time, be careful. you may still get it if you go to up with of his rallies. >> it's not just me. danielle is smiling, too. the craziest thing in the world. you all come but sign this disclosure that says, if you get covid-19, coming out to cheer me on, we're not responsible. stop it. just stay home, people. stay home. >> michael steele, danielle, john, thank you very much for starting things off this hour. we appreciate your time. >>> coming up, i'll talk to reverend al sharpton. and what some call an insult to african-americans. >> plus, a big vote on breonna's law. and new calls for dr. fauci to testify amidst a second wave of coronavirus cases in this country. we'll talk to tony schwartz about biden's claim that trump might try to stay in power even if he loses the election in november. you're watching "the b

historian jon meacham, the author of "american lion: andrew jackson and the white house," and michael steeleublican national committee chairman and former lieutenant governor of maryland, welcome both. jon meacham, talk to me about andrew jackson. let's talk about his legacy and the legacy that has led to the protests and wanting to take down his statue. does jon meacham here me? does john meacham hear me? i think we have problem. we're going to fix that. so we're going to talk about that in a moment, but let's talk about the issue of the statues. you dealt with this issue in maryland as lieutenant guvmeove, and it's an issue that has been raised repeatedly and that is the maryland state anthem or song and lyrics that go back to 1861, which are very controversial. should the song oh, maryland, oh, maryland be changed? >> yeah, i like the tune but the lyrics leave a lot to be desired and a lot of people don't sing those lyrics. they start with maryland my maryland and then it kind of trails off after that, which is an indication while we like the tune we need to update the lyrics. we need to

i do want to reiterate that michael steele mentioned chokeholds. the database which includes terminations, and i'm looking off my notes so i don't get this wrong, what stood out to me about that. yes. we want that stuff reported on the federal level. yes, i think people want to know what police departments are doing. but all of those things kind of hinge on qualified immune. to really have the reporting about a lot of that stuff. especially if it deals in actual civil judgments or criminal convictions. so i think all of these things are intertwined and we can't forget that. >> well, you've got your notes. we got our notes, too. >> of course. you're talking about section 3b. and adding this tracking and mark and i have discussed this on air many times. the hole in any federal tracking, which is why it is piecemeal. and professor, and others we've had on as guests, basically pick up where the federal government and many states fall down because there hasn't been any interest. so the fact there is now a rubric for that is a step. then you have to impr

by michael steel, maya wily.they said they feel what's different is that there's broader buy in. not just from black folks but from people of all stripes, in way they haven't had in the past. that's a way of getting to move past change. getting buy ins from all parts of the county tr. na matter what you might look like. it's about really getting into understanding that experience. i think part of getting the optimism in the hope that people will understand even if they haven't is the mayor sharing stories like she has. eddie sharing stories. michael steel and others really educating americans about what life is like for a lot of us when we're just trying to make it by like the rest of us. >> let me ask both of you one last question. our colleague, al sharpton, i have sat moved to tears at times, laughter, but moved for all of his eulogies. the things he says stick in your head. you don't let them go. what do you think of the body of what he's had to surmise this week? tragedy. bluntness. straight talk. there are

michael steele and then be anything about. the simple and brutal message is this is happened before if nothing changes this will happen again. but lee does see a difference this time in the broad group of americans whose response to george floyd's death was to take to the streets not just black and brown. white merriman or white sister brother take in the streets and joyous and saying this has to stop. and there's a national crowd or these police departments across america got to do some with them you know they got out they got to be reform change fast app and how policing is done in the united states of america black t.-i for decades spike lee has been making movies about us racism and the forgotten history of african-americans amid the shoot him up action of his new film the 5 bloods about black vietnam vets least slips in social and political commentary. about the current resident of the white house leaders of mince words his nickname for president donald trump says it all agent orange is going to go down as the worst presi

with us, we have former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. also nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of "kasie d.c." on msnbc, kasie hunt. along with willie and me. mika has the morning off. we talked a few minutes ago, willie, about a lot of polls that came out yesterday. state polls in swing states, a senate poll that shows a republican incumbent in a red state down 13 points. other polls showing the president down over ten points in a national poll. that's the second in a few days that way. a lot of fox news polls that came out showing the president not doing well in states he has to win. with that as a backdrop, obviously, we have, as was said earlier today, we've got donald trump, who is going to be defending his response to a pandemic, the worst pandemic in a century. an economic collapse. of course, protests in the street. violence in the street. the president of the united states, from the very beginning, saying things that only fanned the flames. now, of course, the most respected military leaders in america coming out, speak

former chair of the republican national committee now an msnbc political analyst, michael steele. correspondent and host of kasie dc kasie hunt. and the reverent al sharpton, great to have you with us on this monday morning. the u.s. has get erred intelligence that russia has offered to pay bounties to those who kill americans. the "new york times" first broke the story on friday,s aspects o which have been patched and reported by cnn, "the washington journal," and abc news. according to the times large amounts of american cash at a taliban outpost in afghanistan helped tip off officials. but we have not confirmed the u.s. verified any bounty payments were made. according to intel gleaned from intergraduatiorogation interrogations, "the washington post" reports that the russian bounties are believed to have resulted in the deaths of several u.s. service members. nbc news has not independently confirmed that reporting. two officials tell the times that u.s. intelligence officers and special ops forces in afghanistan alerted their superiors as early as january to a suspected russian

. >>> and joining us now is former rnc chairman and msnbc contributor michael steele. od to hear from you. let's talk some 2020 politics. we are heading towards a november election. the president's approval rating is decreasing by the poll. there was a cnn poll out today that had him at the same approval rating as jimmy carter, a one-term president. what do you make of this moment in time and the prospects for donald trump's re-election? >> well, let's start with the fact that it's may. so we're still a long way from november. but there are some tale tell signs here that a lot of folks looking at the polling numbers, trend lines, if you will, that are not good for the white house, which starts with their own internal polling. that's why you hear and see the anxiety that is beginning to bubble out in conversations around town about where the white house is. and the reality of it is the confluence of coronavirus and the president's response to that, the economic downturn, the hit that we have taken in the economy, and the rush to get back to opening up the economy, if you

it even made its way onto the airwaves, msnbc, michael steele, former rnc chair, that's embarrassing,alled trump's comments borderline blasphemous. now, if the president actually said with those media members were alleging, then his comments would be out of place and i would call them out. but since we won't lie to you, here is what trump said in its entirety. >> equal justice under the law must mean that every american receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement, regardless of race, color, gender, or creed, they have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. they have to receive it. we all saw what happened last week. we can't let that happen. hopefully george is looking down right now and saying it's a great thing that's happening for our country, there is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. it was a great day for everybody. it is a great, great day in terms of equality. it's really what our constitution requires, and it's what our country is all about. >> laura: he's talking about equal protection under the law, regardless of race. joinin

joining me to discuss, michael steele, former rnc chairman, two of my favorite guests. week's rulings are an indication we need new justices, he said. this week was all about the rule of law. >> yeah, it was. he didn't like the rule, he didn't like the law, and he apparently didn't like the constitutional underpinnings of the decision. particularly with respect to the title 7 case, what you see there was actually the spirit of justice scalia who as everyone know was a textualist on the court, he applies the constitution to it, in this case, he made the argument around the basis of one's sex, as you would with if it was a female complainant or male complainant. he just -- he took it to its logical conclusion and apparently that was way too logical for lindsey graham and way too logical for donald trump and others, other conservatives who are back on their heels. and i said for some time, that, you know, people need to be careful in assuming that because these individuals are politically conservative that they are judicially such. and if they are truly contextualists, if t

cory belcher and michael steele.ese polls out yesterday show that president trump is trailing former vp biden in wisconsin and arizona and they are neck and neck in ohio and texas. these are the states where this whole thing gets decided. when you look at this, what does it tell you? >> tells me that the president's campaign has a reason and a right to be concerned. legitimately concerned. this explains a lot why you see the president doing this sort of macho macho man thing. i am the law and the order president to try to shift the narrative away from the trifecta of problems he has. covid-19. the economy now with 43 million people unemployed. and, of course, the civil unrest that's surrounding the murder of mr. floyd. so from a political standpoint, if you are inside the rnc, you are now worried about your senate, your down ballot races, governors, statehouses, et cetera. all of this is connected around these three events which the republicans have not only been tone deaf but out of step with where the country is mo

>> michael steele, less than 30 seconds. we appreciate you both.xwell, mikesal steele, have a great rest of your day. i'm chris jansing, after a very quick break my colleague and friend craig melvin will be back with coverage of the coronavirus hearing on capitol hill. this is going to be fascinating. wheel hear from dr. anthony fauci, the head of the cdc. there's conversations about whether or not they want to make big changes in this administration at the cdc, whether they're going to get the blame for some of the problems that are around what's happened with the coronavirus pandemic. this is the first time we will have heard from them in weeks. stay right here on msnbc. they wh accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident. cut! is that good? no you were talking about allstate and... i just... when i... accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today. it combines powerful vacuum suction and spray mopping. to lock away debris and absorb wet messes. all in one disposable pad. for a complete cl

but we do have i partisan the port, including from people like michael steele, the former head of the republican national committee, who want to pass our bill. mr. holder: if you look at what happened in iowa -- mo: i think you are muted. there you go. mr. holder: if you look at what happened in iowa, a republican secretary of state really did the right thing, got ballots out to everybody. they broke records for the number of people who voted in a primary in iowa. and now the republican legislature is saying we can't have that in november. they are trying to undercut that which the republican secretary of state did extremely successfully, trying to pass a bill that makes it more difficult for people to vote at home and by mail in november. that shows what at least one party is all about. they want to restrict the number of people who vote. they want to pick their voters as opposed to the way it is supposed to work in a democracy, to let their voters pick who the representatives will be. mo: there is so much more on this topic to discuss but i want to transition over to the real tough

eddie talked about worrying about his son, michael steele talked about worrying about his son.ose to making my worries the same as your worries. that's the ugly truth. how do we change that once and for all? >> no, but you nknow, when my sn was sending pictures to me from on the streets of washington, d.c. and sending pictures of a crowd that was so multiracial and it was so multigenerational and that to me represents the prospect for change. it's these amazing young people who are willing to stand up and really to demand no peace, no justice. and so it actually gives me hope, even as my adult self recognizing the 60 plus years of my own history, that change is difficult. i still believe it's possible. >> and your son deserves it. all of our children deserve it. and thank you for coming on. i know these are difficult days. i can only imagine. we're really lucky to have your voirks thoug voice, though, on this day. thank you for spending some time with us. thanks, donna. and thank you for letting us into your homes once again on an extraordinary and difficult day. it means a lot

i asked michael steel if there isn't a little bit of us not believing what's before our eyes. understand it's a complicated process. even a police officer who holds his knee on a neck has a right to due process. what we saw in our own eyetion was the callousness while george floyd took his last breath on earth. there are questions that have been raised that we have to realize what zoe is asking us to realize, to go farther than just doing right in this one case. we have to go back to being able to trust what we see with our own eyes and what we saw with our own eyes makes these charges today inevitable. >> as i said, i wrote down quotes as she was speaking. it's not nothing until everything changes. we're scared, but we're standing up. >> we're standing up. i think something else that we've all been sensitized to -- listen, i love what shaq brewster reported, it was going to be a protest against racism that taught the country and the world how to come back after a pandemic. yes, you go out and you stand up for what you believe in, you wear your mask, use your hand sanitizer an

shelby steele, hoover institution senior fellow, and author of "shame." he is also wrapping up a documentary called "what killed michael brown?" dr. steele, how do we answer those who insist that because of racial and economic injustice, america is inherently wicked? >> well, i think that's the -- that's their presumption, and it goes back, i think, to the '60s. we had a huge culture war at that time. america did certainly one of the bravest things any nation has ever done, admitted to having oppressed blacks and other minorities for centuries. we are still working that out. i think what we see today on the left, are people exploiting that creature's gesture the part of america by rubbing in our phase that we have -- we have this dark background, this is history, that we are denying, and that's not facing into -- and they are. so it's a struggle for moral authority. they are saying, precisely because they are against america, they have the moral authority to come in and take america over. and on the mainstream of america, people on the right and so forth, represent that old america that admitted its wrongdoing and is t

. >> here's michael steele who two years ago was talking about the fact that the r for republican wasrlet letter. now he's saying we have to go in a new direction. a lot of people say this is a cynical attempt by the party to elevate an african-american at a time we have the first african-american president, steele will make the argument the party has to reach beyond the south, appeal to not just african-americans but also hispanic voters. the party has to expand to compete going forward. >> demographically this is a different country and republicans need to understand that. republicans at least at the national level want to win elections. and along this path they can't win national elections. there will be a debate on how you react to that but i think that assumption is going to be broadly shared in the party. >> some of the many times the republican party has had to reinvent itself particularly after presidential election losses. joining us craig shirley with more on this. what's this look like now? >> i know you were thinking the same thing i was in 1964 after goldwater's defeat, e

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