michael steele may be the most passionate, but he isn't alone in that belief. what's the strategy? how are they going to take on donald trump? >> reporter: i'm also of the mindset that michael has put out here, which is that it's hard to go against trump without actually going at trump. we've all covered trump for a long time now. we know what that looks like. for the tim scott team, according to the officials i've talked to, that's not their plan. they think the differentiation comes for scott not on message or policy necessarily, but instead on messenger. they want scott to be able to put forward this aspirational type of republican conservatism even if it's out of step with the kind of conversation that the party is having to have right now. from where i was standing here on the riser, this is what the tim scott message was today. watch. >> this is the freest, fairest land where you can go as high as your character and your grit and your talent will take you. i bear witness to that. i testify to that. that's why i'm the candidate the far left fears the most. i disrupt their narra

with that in mind, i invite you to stay with me as we bring in michael steele, former chair of rnc and mike spiez, staff writer at the trace. he's written on gun policies, the law, the role of the n.r.a. for a discussion we hope are okay. mike and michael, our two mikes, thanks for joining me tonight. >> good to be with you, ari. >> thanks for having me, ari. >> appreciate it. >> i'll start with michael steele. i emphasized what's so discouraging, that this could be any night's top story, but also there are glimmers of change, both with what the state wants and what the public wants, michael? >> there is. i think i'd push up with your idea about choice. i get what you're saying, you know, that we don't choose to live in this world that's being created because polling shows that people want reform, but that's about the extent of it, ari. yeah, raise my hand. do you want gun reform. yeah, okay, i want gun reform, but then what? how do you reconcile that with the fact that i'm going to go to the ballot box this november, next november or the november after that and vote for someone who st

the michael steele podcast. thank you both for being here. you have the disadvantage of not being with us, mehdi, so i'm going to start with you. you wrote cnn with this ridiculous town hall format put its own anchor in a position to fail. the only way collins could have semi-succeeded would be if she ignored the audience and the format and tried to pin trump down on each and every one of his false statements. her first question was as follows. polls show you're dominating the republican race right now. but you're also under active federal investigation for trying to overturn the 2020 election results. your first term ended in a deadly riot at the capitol and you have not acknowledged the 2020 election results. why should americans put you back in the white house? that sounds like a question that was designed to fail. your thoughts on all this? >> yes, just listening to you speak there and introduce it all, you set it up so well. it's so depressing. i went into last night thinking it was going to be bad, but it

michael steele, the former chairman -- the host of the michael steele podcast bananas and political analyst, zach paton is a senior port correspondent at vox. as things go badly for biden a putin's forces fight in ukraine, putin's crackdown on those fighting for freedom inside russia intensifies. coming up next, i will talk to somebody who knows exactly what vladimir putin is capable of. the head of the justice campaign, bill brower onset with me. the accident. rower onse with me. the accident the accident so, we switched to verizon business internet. they have business grade internet, nationwide. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. ♪♪ choosing miracle-ear was a great decision. like when i decided to host family movie nights. miracle-ear made it easy. i just booked an appointment and a certified hearing care professional evaluated my hearing loss and helped me find the right device calibrated to my unique hearing needs. now i enjoy every moment. the quiet ones and the loud ones. make a sound decision. call 1-800 miracle now, and book your free hearing evaluation. wh

, former chairman of the rnc, msnbc political analyst, and host of the michael steele podcast. gentlemen, i can't think of two better people to talk to about this. there are so many people to talk about, let's just, senator tim scott, chairman steele. what lane is he going to occupy in his run for the nomination? >> i think you are going to see, tim, trying to occupy the old lane of the gop lean. park it back to the days of reagan, pocket back of the days of danny bush. 1000 points of light. talking about the country in sort of, an optimistic terms, but the problem is, it's going to be a hard contrast to the reality that donald trump is going to remind him of. now, here is the thing, i don't think donald trump goes after tim's got the way he goes after someone like a chris christie, or ron desantis. and the reality of that is, he does not want to offend the blocks. he's not going to necessarily play into that lane the way you would think you should, if he wants to take out a competition competitor. that means you won't see him so much as a competitor. >> david, i would love your

what's your advice, michael steele? totally get it. it's complicated. i come down on really -- at the end of the day, to david's last point, i don't think it makes a difference. i don't think -- we have had seven years of this. it's not like we are vealing anything new. the level of shock and awe is long since dissipated when it come to anything related to donald trump. what's surprising in the e. jean carroll case is that he was convicted. what was surprising, that the new york d.a. brought charges. there's no expectation that that will happen. in one sense, david is right. get him in front of the cameras and let him riff and maybe there's that, my god, no, i remember i didn't like that. my concern and fear is, a lot of americans are past that. they are like, i don't get what the issue is. again, this seems a little overdone. they are hammering this guy for no reason. that's where his playing the victim comes into play more than anything else. that changes the way people look at him. >> the study -- the march dispassio

you know, governor dean, michael steele always says you have two chairs, all you need is a table. said it's a bad joke, but it's his joke. >> that sounds like a michael joke. >> michael, take it away. >> yeah, look, i didn't think this leaked video was all that, you know. it was campaign prep, debate prep. >> sure. >> i think people are trying to read more into it than they need to. that's thankfully not what you did here. you laid it out for what it is. it's a candidate preparing to take on a big task in the debate. the reality of it is what i see there is the inner workings of the stomach churning that goes inside gop primaries and gop general election cycles since trump. everyone has to answer throws questions. everyone has to figure out how to answer those questions. no matter how practiced ron desantis was in 2018 or thinking he is now it's different from donald trump is standing on the stage with you. all those other things look likability, and not being too aggressive, because he pulls out your more aggressive nature, not your likable nature, because that's what trump does.

now, i handed over to michael steele. hello michael. >> hey alicia, how are you. good to see you. >> there has been breaking news throughout this show. i think you are going to be the one who actually gets the details of what happened on that phone call. i thought julie tsirkin was gonna run down the hall and put a cup to the door to hear what was happening. >> i got the cup, i'm ready to listen in. it's good to see you alicia. >> i love it, thanks michael. >> good evening, welcome to ayman. tonight, live up to the minute developments on the debt limit negotiations. plus, i'll speak with democrats judy chu and ted lieu and get their reactions to the chaos on capitol hill. then, getting closer, new indications that special counsel jack smith's investigation into donald trump's handling of classified documents, it's almost finished. pardon-palooza. rhonda santa fouls to pardon some january 6th insurrectionists, including trump himself. what is he thinking? i'm michael steele in for ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. >> to breaking developments tonight to begin the

joining me is michael steele, former rnc chair, msnbc political analyst and host of the michael steeleodcast. glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst, and host of the justice matters podcast. and cynthia miller idris, professor at american university and author of hate in the homeland, the new global far right. thank you all for being here. this is a big day, glenn. you have been watching this trial, you have been in the courtroom. hot were the reactions from those as they were convicted? >> i wasn't there when the verdicts were announced. i was there for some of the closing arguments. i actually think the best thing i heard from any attorney during closer argument came surprisingly from one of the defense attorneys. not from the prosecutors. he said, ladies and gentlemen, you heard statements about donald trump saying we're going to go to the capitol and i'm going to be there with you. of course, he didn't go, but we're going to go, and you're going to fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore, and you're going to stop the steal. now march on the capi

on michael steele standing in for ali velshi. opening fire into a crowd of people on a shopping outlet yesterday afternoon. through the seven who were injured remained in critical condition this morning. the shooting took place at allen premium outlets, a shopping center that is more than 140 stores located. i did it is located about 30 miles north. sounds of bullets sent hundreds of people running for cover and witnesses at the scene described a panic that ensued throughout the area. >> i see a lot of people running. we are wondering what is happening. as we approach we hear more rounds, so i'm looking for my daughter. i saw my very fast some approaching the -- starbucks because my daughter say i'm already here. i'm looking for you. they were already fighting each other and all the people were hiring. told me to get away and move out, i am looking for my daughter. >> the gunman was killed at the scene by a police officer who happen to be at the outlet responding to a different matter. neither his identity nor those other victim

michael steele, thank you very much. and the jury we're just told has reached a verdict on count one, seditious conspiracy for dominic pezzola. it has not been read yet but after taking the final verdict, judge kelly will dismiss the jury and declare a mistrial on the remaining counts. again, the big headline here is four out of the five proud boys have been convicted of seditious conspiracy, and we will find out if the last one has been convicted as well in just a moment. >>> coming up, remember the millionaire republican donor who treated supreme court justice clarence thomas to those lavish trips? there's new reporting on who else in the thomas family benefitted from harlan you's quote generosity. >>> and the warning flags the white house is waving over the potential fallout for taxpayers, in other words, all of us, if the debt limit is not raised. >>> plus, the god father of ai joins me later in the hour. he spent decades creating the technology. why he's now so worried about it, he quit google. don't go anywhere. we

joining me is former rnc chairman, and political analyst, michael steele. i wonder, when we're looking at these races if they're going to feel a little bit like the special election surrounding abortion did last year ahead of the 2022 midterms? >> they do a little bit. there's a little bit of that. i would take it out a little bit further and say that there are a lot more issues animating these conversations at the grass roots level. abortion certainly is a lead among them. you look at, for example, you know, how people are looking at the kinds of individuals who are running, what they're saying, not just about abortion but about other issues like guns. and, you know, this war on reading, and books. all of those narratives, katie, are playing an important part in setting up what is going to be a volatile presidential cycle. >> so i'm not confused about why somebody -- here's how i'll put this. if abortion is not a political winner as it has proven not to be in multiple elections now, why are republican legislatures pushing further and further ahead with mor

. >> i'll come you to, michael steele. i have to take a break, but i don't want to do that without getting your take on this. if it's friday, we're talking about trump, we're talking about the saudis, and talking about a potentially mature criminal investigation into his obstructing another investigation. >> yes. to all of that. and i just love the opening of the show today because it is so rich with reporting and legal analysis to give you a real sense of what's at play here and how doj's moving. but let's pull back the lens a little bit and look at the politics for just a second before we go to break, and that's this -- none of this really matters to a lot of the people around the country who are in line with trump. you know, this individual who's defending and warding off of the doj investigation is a symptom of what you'll see play out over the course of this political season. people, whether trump asks them or not, rally to his cause. that's going to be a very interesting back story and foreground story at various tim

. >>> i want to bring in former maryland lieutenant governor michael steele. michael, there are both republican and democratic leaders at the state and local level who say they are being overwhelmed by the arrival of the migrants, before title 42 even expired. >> this is what a year and a half of planning looks like? that's the problem. you have to have a better system in place knowing that there is a sunset in front of you with respect to how you execute immigration policy in the country. the lifting of title 42 changes the game. we have known that for a long time. so the fact that you have got this now pressure cooker forming at the nation's border, politically, does not create a good narrative for the administration. it doesn't matter what the secretary says at this point, because we are looking at the images. we are hearing the narratives and the stories of these individuals. we are also having to reconcile, to your point, andrea, what legislators and governors and communities are having to deal with along these borders. it's not one of those things that's

joining our coverage michael steele and val demings. katty is back with us.hael steele i read it three times now and i have a hard time coming up with a long list of who's not threatened. >> yeah. it's -- it's -- this report is stunningly important and incredibly presh yent about what lies ahead. and the problem is, nicole, all the people who should be paying attention to this are so caught up in the politics of this moment that they're being persuaded not to take it seriously, not to look at it, and not to lean into really addressing it before something god awful happens again. and that is the reality we're faced with. and i hate to say it, there's so much about our government that is reactive. there's nothing proactive. there's no one saying, hey, this is a problem that's staring us in the face, let's take a moment and address it. it's not until it gets to the point where you can do very little to really have an impact in that moment because you're picking up pieces and you're dealing with, you know, broken windows and people attacking police officers and o

so does michael steele. videos on tiktok, you'll know why. >> they've banned them. >> michael, i ran for congress because of the deficit. i did. i know it sounds so extraordinaily boring. because of run away spending, it's what i was focused on. so i paid close attention to it throughout my adult life. begged republicans, even went on the hill and talked to mark meadows when he was in the freedom caucus. i go, "mark, stop chasing the conspiracy theories. do what we did. focus on where you can save taxpayers money. money the balance." you know, we balanced the budget four years in a row when i was there. four years in a row. it can be done. >> yeah. >> but you look at what these republicans are doing. i mean, the deficits and the debts exploded in record numbers under donald trump. what they're proposing now is just pure nonsense. it's just -- they're posing as small government conservatives, and there hasn't been a small government conservative in a position of authority there, well, in 20 years. it's a joke

. >> joining me now is former rnc chair, michael steele. the man of steel, joining us tonight on the beat. michael, i want to put this in context, i've said repeatedly, i said to you, there is no republican party, there are down store front for a terrorist organization called market. you cannot solve calls on thing a functional political party when they've tried to -- sow, that being said, if we pretend that this is some semblance of competition, what do your main stream, economics first, republicans do now that their potential savior, ron desantis, as just completely popped the bed, because it does not look like they have any options right. now times god's not gonna do it for, them and he is nikki haley. >> well, i want to go back to one of the messages of the clip, about trump being a drag on the party. are you just finding that out? now this is, whether it was in 22, 18, it's not complicated. but the reality is that there are two factions that are in competition right now. trump of course is at the center of the competition. there is the

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. >> welcome to a special third hour of a man, i'm michael steele, in for a man muntean. we are tracking major breaking news this hour with msnbc. president joe biden, house speaker kevin mccarthy, and their negotiators have reached a tentative agreement to raise the debt ceiling. we are learning that house democrats have been invited to a virtual all-member briefing from the white house, set for tomorrow at five p.m. eastern, according to a notice that just went out and has been obtained by nbc news. kevin mccarthy said the text of the agreement will be available to members tomorrow, promising that house republicans that they will have 72 hours to look it over before they vote on. it that vote is tentatively scheduled for wednesday. and breaking just now, two gop sources tell nbc news that conservatives are bulking at the agreement. conservative members of congress and both the house and senate, along with conservative outside groups are plotting ways to gum up passage of the bill, or add amendments to make it more appealing to hard-liners. a source familiar with the tal

vaughn, michael steele, dasha burns, thank you. tim miller you're coming back for more abuse later in the hour. >>> at this hour, some inside information, kristen welker just learned from one of the president's top advisers about those critical debt talks in d.c. as biden himself meets with the japanese prime minister in hiroshima. we'll take you live to japan just 60 seconds away. you live n just 60 seconds away hydrates better than the expensive stuff i don't live here, so i'm taking this and whatever's in the back. it's already sold in the us. but i'm not taking any chances. the uk's #1 skincare has crossed the pond. (woman) with verizon's new myplan, i get exactly what i want. the uk's #1 skincare and only pay for what i need. (man) now i'm in charge... ...of my plan. (vo) introducing myplan from verizon. you get exactly what you want and only pay for what you need. and it all starts at just $30. it's your verizon. >>> president biden landed early today at the g-7 summit in japan, juggling the challenge of balancing urgent debt

also with us, former rnc chairman and msnbc analyst, michael steele.so jose, we got new numbers from two dhs officials who just told nbc news that u.s. customs and border patrol apprehended a little over 11,000 people yesterday holding steady with tuesday's record setting numbers. what's the sense on the ground there before title 42 is set to expire just hours from now? >> reporter: these record numbers are going to increase, if anything, and i say hello to you this morning from el paso, texas. i want to show you where we are. this is the sacred heart church in el paso that has been receiving migrants. i want to walk over here and show you if i could just how close we are to the border, just about two blocks from where i am is the del norte bridge, one of the bridges that connects el paso to see ciudad. there has been so much flow of people to and from these two cities. that's something that has traditionally been a reality here, but the number, chris, of people who are coming to request asylum with the dream of having a life in the united states is no

let's talk more about this with michael steele, msnbc political analyst.n, former senior adviser to biden's 2020 campaign. it's great to have you guys here. alencia, these comments were part of a spring of jokes. that said, could this be the best way for biden to attack the age issue, using humor? >> let's be honest, earlier in the year president biden said it's a legitimate question. he wanted people to have the conversation. his counter to that was watch me work. yes, he had some humor, a lot of great jokes on saturday night. let's think about his week last week when me announced he was running for re-election. he also had a historic state vis wit a leader of the south korean government. he actually is showing people that, yes, while he might be older, there are things he's doing that shows he is fit for the job, that he's a leader that the american people should have faith and confidence in. the other thing he did say on saturday night which a lot of us democrats are talking about, nobody wants to talk about former president trump's age. i think you'll

let's discuss with michael steele, former rnc chairman and msnbc analyst.avid henderson, a civil rights attorney and cnbc contributor, and katie benner, national reporter at the new york times, and msnbc contributor. katie benner, what can you tell us about this self-described whistleblower situation put forth this week? >> yeah, so, according to the fbi that whistleblowers themselves were involved in january 6th and ways that were concerning to the bureau. that one witness -- he was at the capitol on january 6th. who is in affected areas. he was in places where he should not have been. and when asked about it by the fbi, he gave false testimony. so -- they felt this was extremely concerning and they revoked his security clearance. another was of the whistleblower's have made statements in public and on social media that allude to the fact that he doesn't believe that the bureau itself has done incredible work. and so you have witnesses that are in opposition to the -- they work with this is concerning particularly vis-À-vis the events of january 6th. this

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also with us is former democratic representative val demings of florida, and michael steele who is alson msnbc political analyst. so dasha, what's the reaction from within desantis world about the glitchy rollout here, and what is he doing moving forward? >> look, it's a little bit of a roe shack test, if you are a desantis fan, this was an announcement, a launch that broke the internet that shows the enthusiasm behind this candidate. if you don't like desantis, if you are, you know, a trump fan especially, trump world is having a field day with this today. one of the spokespeople, steven chung giving us a statement saying glitchy, tech issues, uncomfortable, silences a complete failure to launch, and that's just the candidate. another senior official within team trump when i asked for a response simply sending me back a picture of a glass of wine at a bar in palm beach, florida, so a lot of reaction swirling, but look, this is one moment, this is a big moment, right, the launch. now he's an actual candidate. he's been touring the country for the last few months without an actual campai

joining me now is former republican national chairman michael steele.w was saying the markets are looking at the political situation here and it cost more than $1 billion last time when the u.s. was downgraded by standard & poors, just in the prospect of default. arguably, the political system is in even worse shape now than back in 2013. 2011, rather. >> yeah, it is. it makes discussion that much more difficult. the house has done something that i don't think a lot of folks around town thought would happen. mccarthy actually corralled his caucus around a debt bill that at least for now the freedom caucus, especially want to support. the problem comes when biden comes to the table. if he slides off of -- we want a clean debt bill to okay we will cut but not the way you want to cut, how does that play? how do the conversations go with that very fragile alliance that mccarthy has been able to put together to get this initial debt bill approved? we are just at the beginning. the markets are probably going to be skittish as we get into the month of may, giv

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swing states, which means he cannot win a general election. >> joining me now is former rnc chair michael steele steel joining us tonight on "the beat." i want to put this in context. i've said repeatedly, i've said to you there is no republican party. their a terrorist organization called maga. you can't call something a political party when you've tried to suppress investigations into a violent coup. that being said if we pretend there's some semblance of a competition, what do your main line mainstream economics first republicans do now that their potential savior ron desantis has just completely pooped the bed because it doesn't look they have many options right now. tim scott is not going to do it for them and neither is nikki haley. >> you know, i want to go back to one of the messages from the clip about, you know, trump being a drag on the party. i was like you're just finding that out now? this is -- whether it was in '22, '18, it's not complicated. but the reality is there are two factors in competition right now. donald trump is at the center of the competition. there is the money cla

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we are bringing in michael steele, the former republican national committee, former lieutenant governorryland. michael what about the possibility, the likelihood of the speaker, who went through those 15 rounds before winning, holding or getting the freedom caucus and others on his right to go along with a compromise, which will not be the deal that they passed? >> that's going to be the sticky part here, is putting all these pieces together. you have a lot of folks in the freedom caucus that are screaming, burn it down, let it default. janet yellen is making up the deadline. that kind of rhetoric coming from inside the caucus makes any effort publically or otherwise to get to a point where you get this resolved much more difficult. as much as republicans are beating their breasts and saying, yeah, we have the upper hand, actually, you don't. at the end of the day, you still need to come to some resolution with the white house. that's going to be a pox on your house as much as the president's house. the reality for both sides is, do you want to see federal employees, do you want to see

i'm michael steele filling in for my friend ali velshi. eight people were killed in seven others were injured by gunmen who opened fire into a crowd and people at a dallas shopping outward afternoon. three of the seven who were injured made a critical condition this morning. the shooting took place and alan premium outlets. a shopping center that has more than 120 stores located about 30 miles north of dallas. sale -- sent hundreds of people running for cover and witnesses -- describe the panic that ensued throughout the area. >> it was kind of scary hearing a lot of victims were found outside of h&m. we could hear a bunch of sirens and rumors like how many shooters there are. other police outside a riot. it was really scary. there is a woman who had to stay behind a little bit for evacuation. she was changing her diaper for her child. it was terrifying, actually. >> the gunman was killed at the scene by a police officer who happened to be at the outlived responding to a different matter. but neither his avidity nor those of the victims ha

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. >>> i'm michael steele in for joy reid, and we begin tonight with the republican party. the party of abraham lincoln, ronald reagan, the party i chaired for two years. the face of so many losses, you would think that maybe just maybe the party would take a beat and reconsider the brand. alas, the modern maga republican party looks failure in the face and says, please, sir, may i have some more? let's start with louisiana congressman larry clay higgins who claims there is no such thing as gun violence. yesterday, he grabbed an activist who was attempting to act lauren boebert some questions. higgins proceeded to shove the man back several yards nearly lifting him off the ground. higgins claimed the activist was a threat. now, back in 2004, when higgins was a patrol officer, the chief of police was prepared to take disciplinary action against him for unnecessary force on a subject. then, there's arizona congressman paul gosar, who has had an alleged white supremacist on staff for two years, according to talking points memo, his digital director has pledged his loyalty to n

>> welcome to a second hour of a man, i'm michael steele in for a minimally dean. nbc news has confirmed that according to three republican sources, a tenet of agreement has been reached between a public and leadership and the white house on a debt ceiling deal. the contours of the agreement will be relayed to gop members on an all-member call happening later this hour. and in just a few moments, we will hear from speaker kevin mccarthy we will bring those remarks to you live when they occur. joining me now, shermichael singleton, and host of the shermichael show on sirius xm. jonathan alter, and nbc and msnbc contributor, and ashley pratte oates. and nbc thank contributor and political strategist. while everybody. welcome to the hardest moment you could possibly be welcome to. this is a crazy moment, jonathan. what do you expect to hear from the speaker when he gets in front of those microphones after what has been at times a contentious row with the white house over this debt ceiling plan? >> look, we don't know for sure what he's going to say. but you can expect

michael steele, former rnc chair, lieutenant governor of maryland. davis, a former bush white house official. welcome to all of you. >> thank you. >> different conversation. we start with you, michael. >> okay. i don't know if that's a good idea. >> what does the republican party and conservatism stand for now? >> the party right now is a little bit rudderless with its platform. it doesn't have an official party platform. they didn't pass one in 2020. it has to lay out with clarity some of the -- not just the general big policy themes that they want to go after joe biden on. it also has to speak fundamentally to the country about how the party is going to move the nation forward. what philosophical anchors will it have? not just the traditional tropes around, small government and all of that. >> brendon, you heard the reference to small government. this is something that really used to unite a lot of the party. indeed, some of the debates were around saying, not small enough. let's take a look at that history. >> return to a sense of limited governme

others may soon follow, who are the best chance to take down trump with michael steele and david jolly ceiling talks brutally briefly broke down before resuming last night, we are disgusted sticking points, fighting back, the democratic governor standing at the republican abortion republican restrictions. north carolina governor roy cooper joins me live to discuss what is next. and come on, nine. senator josh hawley has a new book on nine heard. that my guests, to marine veteran say he has a lot to learn. i'm jonathan capehart, this is the saturday show. >> the republican field for president is becoming a little more crowded. south carolina senator tim scott officially jumped into the race yesterday when he filed the necessary paperwork with the federal election commission to launch his campaign for president. he is expected to declare on monday. scott is now officially one of seven candidates in the race to get donald trump to the white house, and there are still other potential candidates on the sideline like new hampshire governor chris so

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public that he is becoming the face of whatever obstruction may happen in terms of reaching the steel. michael, jennifer, both please stick with us, i want to come back to you. coming up, i want to go to reproductive rights. expand far beyond when and if a woman decides to have a child. now, one lawmaker is rising up to ensure all americans women have freedom when it comes to starting their families. i'll explain that next. first, my colleague richard lui, with the day's other top news stories. richard? >> rev, a very good sunday to you. turkey supreme election council declared president erdogan won reelection, and extending the authoritarian 20 year rule. this election, which required a runoff, was the tightest challenge to date for him. today, kyiv suffered the largest drone attack since the start of the war, with russia. ukraine's air force said, russia, rather, launched a record number of 54 drones overnight. they said they shot down 52 of them, nbc news was not able to independently verify those figures. a record number of travelers hitting airports as memorial day weekend, roughly 2.5 mi

i am alix steel with michael host -- with my cohost guy johnson. it feels like we are trading heavy here. you cannot discount any debt ceiling. it is 1 --guy: we will talk about the debt ceiling later as well and there is an emphasis on the macro. one of the biggest events in the market is about to happen and that is nvidia reporting after the bell. this is the stock that has been at the center of this year's rally. it has been at the center of this ever inflating, ai, should we call it a bubble? alix: you have to wonder how much ai played into the movement of tech? wes a safety trade or is it -- was it a safety trade or is it people by that and bubbles -- or is it fueled by that and bubbles can get bigger. matt: --guy: the narrative was that lower yields, -- does the ai story make it more structural? does it change the narrative around this story and as rates go higher, does that mean text --techs our ahead -- power ahead? re: naa -- are we in a tech bubble? how important is nvidia to this market? how is poured -- how important is the signal that

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