here is what michelle bachman has to do. has to do. she has to destroy rick perry to get his support back to her. >> bill, you pointed out an excellent point. i was saying this to a friend of mine the other day, we were talking about sacrifice. you hear a lot of people who are not in the race saying, well, my family, we talked about it, we decided not to run. that's fine. but remember where george washington was. he was in the comfort of mount vernon and decided he was going to sacrifice for his country and for this fledgling republic. sleeping in valley farming. i think the country is desperate to see one person on that stage who looks into the camera and says, you know something? i'm here to save america. this is what i'm going to do. it's not about taking down perry or taking down bachman or taking down romney. this is what i'm going to do to save this country. and i think the more we hear that, and less of the self-propping up that we see in a lot of these campaigns, i think people will start listening. i think there is a lot -- >>

segment, the gop debate on thursday sponsored by fox and google, very important for congresswoman michelle bachmanshe has lost some staff and her comments about the hpv vaccine that governor rick perry mandated in texas caused controversy. mrs. bachman's former campaign manager, ed rollins is here. the latest poll, i want to put it up, is not good news for michelle bachman at all. this is a usa today gallup. good poll. historically good poll, small sample, 439 republicans, republican leaners. romney, 7. ron paul, 13. and that's a very hard core vote, 13. but michelle bachman sliding all the way down to 5%. why do you think she slid? >> i think rick perry. the bottom line here is she's the best candidate in this field. i watched a lot of candidates over my 40 years in politics. she's an enormous candidate and very, very strong on the stump. she won the straw poll which no one expected her to do. she's a great retail politics. our game plan was always to win iowa. >> bill: then why, if she's so good and i agree with you, i've always said she waged very, very good campaign. her personally. then why d

the vaccine comments, did that help or hurt michelle bachman? >> they were very good in the debate when she attacked him on executive overreach and basically doing something he shouldn't have done with his cronies. obviously she stumbled at the next day when she talked about the vaccine. but at the end of the day, she's a great debater. >> bill: but i want to stay on the vaccine because that's gotting a lot of turns currency with the comedians. overall, help her or hurt her? >> it hurts her at this point in time, but she'll be back debating tentatively on thursday night. >> bill: okay. you think people will forget that? >> absolutely. >> bill: but michelle bachman on thursday has to dominate that field, i would think. >> she has the capacity to do that. she dominated the first debate. she dominated the iowa debate. people forget that pawlenty was viewed by the washingtonians as the alternative to romney. she knocked him on his tail. >> bill: do you think he endorsed him because they're both from minnesota? >> i think there was a conservative mod

the team's 19 and 92 >> new this morning to hypo political figures are in the bay area today michele bachman at 9:00 a.m. will be hosting a breakfast chat at san raphael on rose court she will be meeting with constituents and raise some cash also hillary clinton will be speaking at a pace meeting at the summit she is one of the keynote speakers . that into the kron 4 news room >> time now 6:04 a.m. the this is the view from of mt. tam camera you can see the higher altitudes lot of cloud cover. mead that is where we've are seen visibility diminish sent a rosa has a 3 mi. visibility rain now mexico it will pull back by 1:00 p.m. it will take a while for the north bay to clear out when. it will be at potty start tomorrow morning still call this morning in some spots cooler than yesterday this is a look of temperatures right now mostly fifties and a few 60s we expect these temperatures to drop before sunrise. this is a look of your afternoon highs most locations will be in the mid '70s. will hold on to that cooler weather patterns including tamara this is look of your 4 day forecast docks and no

all other candidates, including michelle bachman and ron paul come in at ten points or less in all the polls. let's bring in the best man to make accepts of the polling, karl rove who joins us from austin. everyone thought -- i shouldn't say everyone. i thought and some other people that this was going to be perry, bachman, and then the winner of that matchup was the person who ultimately took the fight to the more moderate, mitt romney. does this mean that michelle bachman with these polls, this early, this far out is kind of marginalized herself out of this race? >> she could be, but let's not call it over before it's over. we got a long way to go. sent, october, november, december, january and we start voting in february. but you're right. rick perry is now the front runner, as you said, he leads 26 over o romney's 18 and everybody else is in single digits. here is the cautionary note. let's remember that in 2008 at exactly this time, the front runner was rudy guiliani with 30. followed by fred thompson at 27, john mccain at 14, mitt romney at 11, and mike huckabee who turned in to,

. >>> michelle bachman heads into enemy territory. >>> the answers aren't that tough. >> right. >> what are missing is someone who get it is problem and the solution. >> how she's trying to change the tea party image. >>> tuition may be about to skyrocket for students. so why is a top uc official getting a $700,000 bonus. >>> buy a house for $9,000? where a northern california man found a once in a lifetime deal. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, already on the system. we clearly need to have a reform effort and i'll be glad to lead that effort as president of the united states." congresswoman and presidential ndidate michel j the social security system going forward will be very difficult to maintain for those who are younger than those who are currently on social security. we clearly need to have a reform effort and i will be happen foy lead that reform effort as president of the united states. >> congresswoman and presidential candidate michelle bachman on the stump today. it is part of the two day. in a way it is a trip into enemy territory because the bay area is not exactly gop friendly country. >

. >>> michelle bachman is making a campaign stop. they will meet at a private home at 9:15 this morning. she will continue to campaign with two appearances in southern california. >>> coming up at 4:47 we will have the latest results, it shows but they don't agree with the rest of the country when it comes to a front-runner. >>> they are still scheduled to speak at san francisco despite a plane scare. she and other passengers safely arrived but escorted the justice from our cameras. the original airlines flight was about to take off when spoke was coming out from the other engines. the 185 people on board slid down the emergency shoots including a mother clutching her newborn baby. rebecca was also on that flight and she too was not injured. >>> one single senator's objections could force another partial shut down for the federal aviation administration this weekend. they would loose $30,000 a day. they would consent every lawmaker's consent to shift from one bill to another but tom wants to add advice a disaster legislation first. >

. >>> there has been a shake up for michelle bachman, her deputy campaign manager and manager are leaving. they say at 68 years old he does not have the stamp what to -- stamina to work the hours needed. >>> they were filing for bankruptcy and laid off all 1100 employees. the company violated the law that requires 60 days notice for laying off more than 50 people but they say they were seeking financing and that is an exception to the law. >>> after months of negotiations today is the day. we will learn a secret trait people have been fighting to save. >> when the sheriff got there he reported it as burglary? >> it was not an ordinary burglary, what was the damage to this person's car? . >>> preliminary totals indicate law enforcement made more apprehensions and it is 29 more than last year. >>> and back in to check on traffic, any problems, sal? >> not anything major, pam. >>> first let's start off with live pictures and you can see traffic is moving along nicely if you are driving in oakland. it is a nice looking drive getting all the way to the downtown area. this morning's commute loo

michelle bachman with 1%. she won the iowa straw poll a month ago. that historically cat putted republicans to win. she's gone from winning the iowa straw poll to coming in dead last in the florida straw poll. that's got to be particularly bad news for her. a huge triumph for herman cain. the sense that republicans in florida are very upset with rick perry, particularly on illegal immigration, but perhaps because there is a high percentage of seniors which perhaps is his views on social security. these are issues rick perry will get the signal on. he and mitt romney are in michigan now. but the noise from florida is loud. herman cain's common sense conservativism with his 9-9-9 jobs and economic plan has gotten the attention of the sunshine state. it will echo around the country and particularly for rick perry. he'll have changing of policies or at least adjustments to make in the wake of this defeat. to come in with less than half of herman cain's support is a serious blow. he and mitt romney have a serious race ahead. fundraising after straw polls

michelle bachman, though she's still considered a top tier candidate, has been slipping in the pollsour fox news poll last week about whether or not voters think she should run, 74% of all voters said they thought she should not. 71% of republicans thought she should not. there were a lot of folks here in the audience today who were very excited to see her. but we did talk to some who thought she would make a better cheerleader than an actual president. she's got a few more weeks to think about it. >> kelly: the reaction that we had here to that comment about polls, quite a bit of a chuckle in the news room, as you understand. great stuff. the polls notwithstanding, in all sincerity, sarah palin can do whatever she decides to do. right? if she wants to announce -- >> absolutely. she's got tremendous ability to capture the press' attention and the imagination of tea partiers and conservative republicans. were she to enter the race, we have a good idea to some of the things she has to think and say about other candidates. today she talked about the problems of a permanent professional

finally, check out michele bachman, no more taxes. how does she want to fund the government she wants to run. how does she expect to get paid this week? we start with rick perry's flip flot, simple flop in the debate. let me start with david. by the way, the headlines coming up are dramatic. they are unforgiving of rick perry's performance. the headlines are damming. texas toast. perry worries gop. rick perry, beginning of the end? here is a talking points memo are the headline running with rick. they turn on perry after the debate and bill crystal wrote a special editorial with the headline yikes. no front-runner in a presidential field has ever had as weak a showing as rick perry. it's as close to a disqualifying two hours for him. thank you for joining us so much. >> thank you for having me. >> among republicans, that's the target audience through next spring. how bad did rick perry do? >> he had a tough night. it's difficult to say, it's a difficult night for perry. more than that, he created an opening for governor romney with 35

and with 1%, michelle bachman.ing up the rear, the results of this are a clear signal to rick perry that his debate performance and particularly based upon the conversations we've had with so many florida activists, his position on illegal immigration has hurt mr. perry dramatically and herman cain is the beneficiary clearly, a raucous speaker and an ardent conservative, an outsider without political experience. herman cain's ability to more than double what rick perry has gotten suggests a great deal of the support that rick perry thought he had before the debate, in fact, went to herman cain. the closeness of the perry, romney numbers putting them at the 15 and 14% suggests those two are going to be in a very, very tough battle. rick santorum coming in fourth is an illustration of just how well he has done and for michelle bachman coming in last, this has to be very, very upsetting news. governor rick scott, florida's chief executive is not going to formally announce the results to the audience here, but fox news

wins the iowa straw poll and on meet the press so the downgrade and the london raw goods and michele bachman i had a great opening week publicity wise. if you have read the ultimate chapter with its big nuclear-free mali you might want to be out of town when we do the publicity tie in for that. [laughter] you don't write a book called after america because you want it to happen. you write it in order to prevent it happening. the total societal collapse is not to read your and author of the destruction of the banking system makes it harder to catch the royalty check so i want to prevent the dawn of the post america world, and i hope you do, too. if you are in favor of the post american world, if you are a tenure lefty professor at an american college campus, i don't think you would enjoy it as much as you think you will. i'm often asked by fellow conservatives why i am being such a hysterical old queen about the whole business because if you recall president obama's now forgotten that commission i don't know if you remember them all very bipartisan and a blue ribbon. just a few months ago the

barack obama has done everything wrong >> messages it jut governor romney and rick perry and michele bachman >> address the private > nudes he has told us about temporary fix it and gimmicks >> perry was criticized avers sang social security when his opponent >> he only approved the program covers state employees >> he changed outlined in his book when he would change the plan for all americans >> perry also addressed on being too soft on immigration educate children that have come into our state then and no other reason that they were brought there by no fault of their own >> those children would be a drag on society. >> president barack obama was in no i'll pushing his jobs bill taken up on chanting in his favor. >> it is good to see all view it is good to be back in cincinnati >> the president spoke in front of the aging bridge he was saying that republicans support his plan to create jobs program. >> will be carrying this president's speech live and that will be coming up on monday will have more on are news kepcast and to take a look from our mt. tam cam we also have some fog out there.

republican has turned to 31 percent in california toward the rest are independence >> michele bachmanmake a bay area appearance tuesday to allow local to party supporters. >> get ready where pratt take this country back in 2012 >> made a pitch to a crowded room of conservatives and why she should be the nominee for 2012 >> this is going to be a bit different cold president and do what the founding fathers said and become constitutional chris negatives and put them back in the white house whe. as president of iowa held real and not rest until we repeal, health care. >> then we if this is the indication of how stimulus money is used whinnied to reject the further stimulus which in his next jobs program. >> a violent days of restaurant rage when and want fitzsimmons' unusual action picklock >> reality having technical difficulties and we will be back " why. at 1930 outlook outside all signs are it is going to >> with have a look at the forecast >> it is going to be gorgeous day of this a live look outside at the bay bridge alameda is currently sitting at 58 degrees by the 3:00 p.m. metop

we need more michele bachmans and sarah palins and maybe some of you right here in this room. as an outsider, when people watch what happened, realized things you said 25 years ago are going to be dug up and taken out of context, why would i ever do that? why would i put my family through that? why would empire -- i embarrassed myself and my reputation like matt? if we allow them to do that we are allowing them to win all over again because we need more trouble makers to challenge the status quo and hold this administration accountable, to put their name on the line. we might not win the first time around, but we are making a difference and moving the standard further along for future candidates, especially for women. i really tip my hat to what your organization is doing here in such a difficult district. [applause] >> thank you. >> i was wondering if you would be willing to talk a little bit about your experience with the media during your campaign? was there anything that surprised you were shocked you in the coverage? do you have any advice as far as to what service you wo

revamping >> we have turned from a country of hope to one of anxiety >> in the riding also is michele bachman and it looks like hurricane mayn't has suffered some below her former campaign manager and has stepped down. kron 4 while bring you the president's address on thursday it is scheduled to start at 4:00 p.m. our time >> hotel workers took to the streets on labor day at the hyatt regency a large around union square carrying signs these workers one of solidarity clause in their contract val will allow them to strike and picket their own hotels they say it is important to stand up for employee rights and these tough times >> we're working together workers will be protected and that we can maintain the middle class >> these workers have been without a contract for over two years >> at 4:35 a.m. an update on the weather. >> get ready for a heat wave off temperatures are going to climb all over the bay area. where seeing a little bit of the patchy fog not too wide spread. will start to laugh with your current temperatures. this is a much warmer temperatures are expected to get today. and we'r

michelle bachman will be the keynote speaker. she was at a bay area fundraising event yesterday. she told reporters that tea party activists are getting a a bad rap. >> to state the notion that the tea party are right wing radical fringe, red, white and blue all the time. >> she told supporters that as president she would repeal president barack obama's health care program, reinforcement federal tax code and shrink the federal government. >>> it was a close call but the united states senate managed to avoid another park shutdown of the faa. the senate yesterday beat the deadline to approve a stopgap transportation bill. it extends the faa's operating authority through january. >>> defense secretary leon panetta has a warning for congress about what might happen if it fails to agree on a long term debt ceiling plan. he says it would trigger more than $# million in cuts to the pentagon. the deadline is set for november 23. >>> it comes as the number of people filing for unemployment jumps to its highest level in three months. it's really bad in california. unemployment in the san f

on the corner we will find out what's going on at their will be right back @ @ @ >> >>, and a michele bachman was in the area today >> get ready where rents take this country back in 2012 >> made her pitch to a of a crowded room and why she should be the republicans can eight in 2012 >> this is old and new president that what the founding fathers set him put that constitutional conservative view back to work >> i was devastating how much taxes everyone has to i will not rest until we appeal obama care >> she backtracked on her controversial statement live in the h p b vaccine to metal retardation she was criticizing her rival rick perry that made it mandatory in >> i am not making any conclusions on the drug whatsoever >> she likes dickens criticized the obama government to the fremont countrwhy counting business cylinder and we >> we will take a break port cylinder and we >> we will take a break port st. air and this time in a matter of seconds. hi. hi. you know i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. you just read my mind. [ male announcer ] just one little pi

what is your take on michele bachman and sarah palin?porter: well, sarah palin i don't think is going to enter the race. she's a big tease. she loves to say hey to the media, i might do it, i might not. she's not going to do it. her 15 minutes of fame are over. michele bachman, i think her time is ending too rick perry stole her thunder. she did very well in iowa before rick perry got in the race but there are only so many christian conservatives to go around. >> president obama facing some fallen poll numbers including some from his base. the economy obviously continuing to struggle. what does the president need to do in order to win reelection next year? >> i i think the president needs to make clear the differences between him and the republicans. es he come forward -- he's come forward very nicely on the american jobs act. republicans are saying we're going to stop you. we are not going to allow the economy to succeed. we're going to cut spending. we're going to harm state buckets and we're going to contract the economy. so it's kind

. >> michele bachman we gave it tea party response to the president's response she said she didn't hearything she hasn't heard before >> what about your proposal what is new what hasn't already been tried and failed before the president's speech falls after veiled attempt of trillions of dollars kabila's mahican going to bed idea that government is a solution to create jobs >> she is struggling in their raised and has become a two candidate race toward time now on 5:09 a.m. when we will have everything heat you need in just a couple we will have everything heat you need in just a couple minutes. @ >> >> hurricanes we have three tropical storms we are watching right now a tropical storm is planning on staying out why it is over the ball, and a pat as a ahead into next week there is hurried cane him ...katia we're also watching tropical storm and madonenate. e have historic flooding in pennsylvania with more than a thousand people have been evacuating around the susquehanna river president of all homicide emergency declarations he also signed declaration for parts of new york state board

michelle bachman did not have a example breakout moment to shift the momentum back in her favor.huntsman, who has been mired in the low single digits took shots at romney and perry, but it didn't resonate and unlikely it did him much good. about who won between rick perry and mitt romney is split. perry, when has not had a lot of experience debating, he hasn't debated in some of his gubernatorial elections, proved that he can handle himself, that he can talk policy and be aggressive, that he won't take any guff from his rivals and he stuck pretty much to every position that he's ever taken. the full spectrum conservative type stuff. even though he took a lot of heat. mitt romney had to do something to sort of try to stop rick perry's lead. he's trailing by big double digits in a number of places. and he took it to perry on jobs, on health care, on social security reform, on a host of issues. so romney was the pursuer. perry parried most of it. bachman and huntsman not so much. for people like herman cain and rick santorum and newt gingrich, newt gingrich had a great moment beatin

michele bachman spoke, and yesterday it was ron paul's turn in the spotlight. >> i believe there's a time for attitude and change for direction in this country. >> paul has gained momentum in the race for the white house in recent weeks. he's running third behind rick perry and mitt romney. >> lisa is here to talk about a warm-up on the way. >> fog-free conditions and another 30 minutes or so until sunrise. you see from this shot it looks gorgeous out there. temperatures are cool. only 46 at half moon bay. low 60s out by the delta. how long the warm-up will last, that's coming up. >> also coming up, stanford begins pac12 play against arizona with a win but suffers a big loss to their defense. we've got your highlights coming up in this morning's sports. [ man ] did we get anything good? sweetie i think you need a little extra fiber in your diet. fiber makes me sad. oh common. i dare you to taste one hint of ber in fiber one. oh, i'd be able to tell. why don't i just eat this bag? and how can you talk to me about fiber you enjoy that. i am. [ male announcer ] fiber beyond recognition.

what i think it is why people said that, particularly conservative americans: i think they like michelle bachmani think they admire congresswoman bachman's moxie, and the hard work she's put in. sarah palin comes in, that's going to hurt bachman. i think that's what a lot of this is all about. i'll give you the last word. >> bill, i also think people move on. they move on quickly in a public arena. and now the focus is on people like rick perry, maybe still mitt romney, bachman. marco rubio, paul ryan, people who are out there fighting with the war of ideas and fighting hard every day. i think if palin wants to get in, i think she could change some people's minds. as long as she's on the side lines doing this dance, i think maybe people are getting a little tired of that. that's only a conjecture on my part. >> bill: looking forward to your interview with dick cheney tomorrow on the radio. thanks very much as always. >> thanks. >> bill: quickly ahead, why is the tea party demonstrating against mitt romney? one of the tea party leaders will be here. then, warning some, vicious video, parent beat

appear on stage tonight it is the first of three debates polls show her perry as a leader and an michele bachman shooting up third spotted him how this see all of y'all who is getting the boot to she was told she was fired over the telephone and she has had a rocky tenure in january of 2009 yah hoo plan still search for a permanent replacement >> more news when the kron 4 morning news returns this is a live look of the san mateo bridge and we can see the traffic moving smoothly. mñwñ >> >> 10 more people are dead outside out of a new we delhi storm they said it was a suitcase bomb. >> the government could ease in a security rules will in the next couple of months right now have to take off your shoes when you go through the checkpoints that could end soon thanks to new technology the security chief said at that day liquids will still say and place >> the greater in for the a government agency for security the results are surprising they gave the decade old don't land security and incomplete the department made significant strides to protect the nation but has failed to reach its potential. >> 5:

we have seen michele bachman and sarah palin but there are three new republican governors thanks to 2010. one is suzanne martine as, from a border state, in mexico. you are close by so you know this. in new york they have no idea. i talk about social issues in the book and how it relates to this generation and the legacy of the republican party. i also talk about immigration. immigration is one where we have to work a little harder. they may not be there already were on fiscal issues and education we need to do a better job on immigration and a better job with islamic supremacy which was the war on terror which is the overseas contingency operation. also making the case for american exceptional is the. this is the first generation that doesn't subscribe to american individualism. we can make the case for it by explaining where it is because basically they think american individualism means americans are better than everyone else and americans can go it alone and that is not what it means. is not an expression of american jingoism. is an expression of the brilliance and exceptional is abo

yesterday it was ron paul's turn in the spotlight after michele bachman. >> i believe there's a timettitude and change for direction in this country. >> paul has gained momentum in the race for the white house in recent weeks. he's running third behind rick perry and mitt romney. >>> more than 80,000 californiaiance took part in the state's largest volunteer effort as part of california coastal cleanup day. yesterday people of all ages pitched in and helped pick up litter from san francisco's ocean beach. about 300 junior ro t.c. cadets from san francisco's public high schools grabbed trash bags and length a hand. similar cleanups took place at more than 800 sites up and down california yesterday. it is kind of beach whether yesterday, as well. a warm-up. >> definitely. beautiful out there. lots of sunshine. today the offshore flow really gets underway and we will see highs ranging from the upper 60s at our coast. emeryville, clear conditions. we will start a little warmer today. we will tell you how long the warm-up will l coming up. >> thank you, lisa. also coming up, stanford begi

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he upstaged even michele bachman. >> you score points by being the person you're supposed to be. >> and not kid ourselves, he would catch a great deal of flak if he were not there. this would be the first time we have seen rick perry on a national stage debating fellow candidates. how big of a win does he need, or does he need a win at all? there are some saying all rick perry has to do is show up and not look like a complete nut. >> well, when you're at the top of the heap, you have a lot to lose. you have a long way to go. you want to win iowa. you want to win new hampshire. you don't want to make any mistakes. the other candidates have everything to gain by knocking you down a chip or two. >> i completely disagree. i think rick perry just showing up -- i mean, he's going up against santorum. the word, santorum, by the way is trending higher than he is as a candidate. ron paul, michele bachmann, who's dropping like a led brick. and mitt romney. he really just needs to show um. as you said, not say anything stupid. >> so who has to hit a home run? >> i think this is an important one fo

palin made references that could be used to contrast her against rick perry and michelle bachman. >> gregg: carl cam ran, thanks for giving us the rundown. >> international news now. libyan rebels are now outside one of moammar gadhafi's last strongholds. some believe the embattled leader might be there. the troops are giving the town until tomorrow to surrender, hoping to avoid any more bloodshed. now with news that gadhafi's sons have visited the village to plead for loyalty, some wonder whether a conflict with be avoided at all. dominic is streaming live from tripoli. >> i'm suggesting colonel gadhafi could be there, but he said he's been in many places and hasn't turned up once they finally taken over the cities. it seems they are trying to get the people of the area to actually surrender. they extended the deadline for the surrender of sirte. that appeared to be going quite well. the tribal leaders they're negotiating with, seriously mulling it over. the truth of the matter is, libya is fed up with all the bloodshed and fear the battle in sirte would be 20,000. that would be an

we will focus the finale and out of town previous, and will change to a happy ending and which michele bachman sees the error of her ways and settles down with the joe biden to run an all seeing, all dance compartment in chicago. it will warm your heart. [laughter] but until we close the deal with disney on that particular project, let me say being grim, it starts with the money but it never stops there. let me spell out what a post-american world lead. a is for addiction. we spend too much. it's not a revenue issue. it's a spending issue. the united states joined the rest of a constant west will and voting itself lifestyle that was not willing to pay for. and, indeed, can never pay for. because when you spend $4 trillion budget only taken $2 trillion which is the federal government model, you can never close that gap with revenue. when government spends on a scale washington issues to come its not a spending crisis. it's a moral one. there's nothing virtuous about caring, compassionate, progressive demonstrating how caring and compassionate and progressive they are by spending money yet to be

before i goat michelle bachman -- you're a fashion ron paul. let me ask you this. a healthy 30-year-old young man has a good job, makes a good living. but decides, you know what? i'm not going to spend 200 or $300 a month for health insurance because i'm healthy. i don't need it. something terrible happens. all of a sudden, he needs it. who pays for that? >> in a society you accept welfarism and socialism, he expects the government it take care of it. he should do whatever he wants to do and assume responsibility for himself. my advice to him is have a major medical policy. but not be forced -- >> he doesn't have it. and he needs -- he needs intensive care for six months. who pays? >> that's what freedom is all b taking your own risk. this whole idea that you have to prepare and take care of everybody -- congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die? >> no. i practice medicine before we had medicaid in the eerarly 196. i practiced at santa rosa hospital in san antonio. the churches took care of them. we never turned anybody away from the hospital

michele bachmann has dropped in the polls some because this perception of the gap for michelle bachman not doing what she needed to do on the campaign trail, prema donna images the press have put out there. largely it is a product of rick perry entering the race. she didn't start following with a lot of momentum going down until rick perry got into the race because republicans are mindful of her history. the last time someone went from the house of representatives to the white house was in the 1800s. it's very, very hard for someone who's just run in a congressional district to run a national campaign. i mean, perry for all intents and purposes has run in what could be a nation state. >> i want to come back and talk more after the break. before we do, one quick note, the tea party express are going to be hosting a republican party debate on monday. september 12. president obama says americans are getting tired of political game playing but is congress listening? how much bickering both parties are doing and how little it is getting done. will it stand in the way of a jobs package with

after that, michele bachman speaks of the california gop convention in los angeles. at 11:00 p.m., q&a, with ivan kander and robert jones. >> which part of the constitution is important to you? that is the question in our student campus -- student cam competition. entries are due by january 20, 2012. there is $50,000 of total prizes, and a grand prize of $5,000. for all the details, go to studentcam.org. >> on wednesday, texas governor rick perry spoke about his personal religious beliefs at a speech in lynchburg, virginia. he was introduced by the university chancellor, jerry falwell, the son of founder reverend falwell. >> this spring, my friend david and i were discussing the upcoming elections by e-mail. david is say -- is a texan. he is a political junkie, and he is a community organizer. he has organized hundreds of events for pastors to meet and discuss national issues. he once worked for my father, organizing briefers all over the country. tors policy briefings all over the country. i told dave how much i admired his governor or having the guts to say things

sarah palin who is not a declared candidate comes in higher than ron paul, michelle bachman has slipped to 4%. three of four republicans said they want a candidate can beat president obama. >> and of the week, in the republican debate that the party debate tonight comes after a fiery exchange during last week's debate when the texas jumper--gov. with rick perry and mit romney went right after each other. earlier today a couple of endorsements, the louisiana governor supporting perry was a former minnesota governor who has backed out of the race is now backing mit romney. i will have some highlights coming up tonight at 6:00 p.m.. it >> to the latest in the michelle le murder case gisselle esteban arrested by the hayward police a number of nursing student michelle le. >> it was another snow show for gisselle esteban at the courthouse in hayward she was scheduled to appear with her public defender to enter a plea in the michelle le murder case. a representative from the public defender's office did make a special appearance on her behalf telling the court that he waved her appearance. how

congresswoman michele bachman addressed the california republican party convention.ll of the candid its role in -- invited to speak. only bachman and ron paul chose to participate. she predicted the republicans will win the state in 2012. this is about 45 minutes. about 45 minutes. >> thank you, thank you so much. i am so happy to be here with all of you tonight. i running for the republican nomination to be the next president of the united states in 2012. thank you you produced ronald reagan and he serves as the example for us all. thank you for what you have given to our country. we are in a time when we should be rejoicing and we should be absolutely thrilled at the opportunities we have before us. us, the country is facing severe attacks and some new ways. we have seen housing in drop -- we have seen houng drop in value. housing prices about 19%. housing is one of the backbones and pillars of our economy. housing has been attacked like no other. why are we excited? we see the jobs report which is the worst in 66 years. not one job was created in the last reports

t.j., these are terrible numbers going into a re-election year, and the reason why people like michele bachman are feeling good about the republicans chances next year. >> jim acosta, thank you. we will have your next political update in one hour. always get all of the political news 24/7 at cnn/politics.com. >>> five days now since hurricane irene first made landfall and still from north carolina to maine, we got about 2 million homes and businesses still without power. a lot of towns and communities still cut off. bridges washed out. roads impassible and, in some cases, food is running low. in vermont, the national guard there providing air drops of food and water and medicine. on sunday, president obama will travel to new jersey to view the damage. susan candiotti, tell us where you are and what you're seeing. >> reporter: i'm in wayne, new jersey, right across the bridge from little falls. to give you an idea of a high water mark here, look at the top of that car vacuum. we are in the parking lot of a car wash. i'll step down this curb here very slowly because the current here runs pretty

and many mainstream republicans question michele bachman's potential to pull off a win in a general elections, while the tea party movement has been great for republican energy, it has also produced candidates so unorthodox that voters eventually rejected them. thank christine o'donnell in delaware. that's where they get labeled extreme, though they say what's extreme is the result if we don't get the government under control. senator mike lee was elected with strong tea party support. >> it's a reaction to extreme circumstances that exist within our federal government. again, $15 trillion debt. extreme. increasing debt, accelerating it at $1.5 trillion a year. that's extreme. >> reporter: polls show the tea party movement took a hit in popularity recently after the showdown of raising the debt limit. organizers call it the cost of leadership. though, it could be an early sign of trouble with the presidential elections still more than a year away. joe johns, cnn, washington. >>> coming up, last night's republican debate. who was the biggest surprise? who was the biggest disappointment? our p

michele bachman, the congresswoman from minnesota had a news conference on capitol hill after the speech. take a listen to what she had to say. >> not only should congress not pass his plan, i say, mr. president, stop. your last plan hasn't worked and it's hurting the american economy. >> reporter: a similar message from every other republican presidential candidate. hear more from them monday because there is another debate. >> and why you're in tampa. the big debate on monday night and see it live on cnn. >>> christine romans with the business side of the president's job plan. let's break it down. >> reporter: put the politics aside and not talk about what parts could get through. the payroll tax cut for 98% of businesses. mark zandi calls it a creative way to take the payroll cut to businesses. a tax credit for companies that high unemployed veterans. you know that employed veterans the unemployment rate is rising to dangerous levels and something needed there and both parties agree on that. improvement for about 35,000 public schools. this is part of the infrastructure component of t

michelle bachman said it is because of obama care businesses are not hiring but she forgets that during the bush years the last couple of years jobs were flowing out of the country before president obama came on the scene. so, it is not obama care that is killing jobs, it is the prices of everything that are so high and nobody can work to afford to get anything. and then of course the jobs have left the country. if we just opened up the factories with people who worked there before in the steel industry and all the other industries that left this country and stop importing, buying imports, we have to build our own and making our own clothes and socks and metal. we have to do this again and open up the clothes factories. and bring housing prices down. nobody can afford a down payment and it will be at least 20 to 3 years before these houses that have just been built that are sitting will start it get sold. if they do bring the house prices back down you are not going to have any housing is the number one economic leader for people getting on their feet to have their own home. host: what

and by michelle bachman. later discussion about immigration policy from the u.s. chamber of commerce. tomorrow, a ceremony to honor the 50th anniversary of the defense intelligence agency. we will hear from leon panetta. coverage begins at noon eastern on c-span. >> he should start with the assumption that when a politician or a ceo is saying something, they are not telling you the truth. the burden should be on them to prove it. >> he is an eagle scout, and dinner, directed and produced three of the top 10 grossing documentaries, and a best- selling author. his latest is a memoir. sunday, your chance to call and talk to michael moore. on october 3, the supreme court will hear arguments on whether states can be sued for failing to pay the required rates of the medicaid? . here's a similar case from 1990 arguing that states cannot be paid -- sued by private parties. >> it may be helpful to return to language of the statute. that specifies that the state plan must provide a payment of rates which makes assurances to the secretary. >> listen to c-span radio online at

this group would have said almost exactly what we say about michele bachman. he can't get elected.dical. he's an actor. he's been governor of california. he doesn't have enough experience. i don't think anybody thought ronald reagan was going to get elected. >> that's true. >> mort? >> i happened to work in the white house when he was president. >> you did? >> yeah. when nick got jumped by the kgb. >> yeah? >> i tell you, we met every day. he got the issue right away. he was a very decisive. i was astonished by it. i was surprised. >> it's like the "saturday night live" skit. they go behind the scenes and he was in charge of them. >> he was absolutely in charge. it was a complete surprise to me. >> i was not working in that white house at that time. what was striking about seeing michele bachmann s when is the last time we heard from michele bachmann, she wins in iowa then rick perry comes out. you have not seen her on television. >> you see peter alexander more. >> i want to follow up on what lesley had to say. i remember reading the story and siting it many times. after 1976, nan

. >> michele bachman dropped off the radar? >> she faded big time. she's out of oxygen.ad eight republican presidential hopefuls at the ronald reagan library for a major, major event to put forth their opinions, yet i didn't hear anything about afghanistan, did you? >> no. as we talked about it before, you can't cover everything. it doesn't mean afghanistan isn't important, the moderators chose to focus on other areas. afghanistan has been in other debates and will come up again. clearly, it is the topic for the next nominee to deal with. there's more than a 90% chance it will be romney or perry. you are going to have to talk to them about how to handle it. >> it's one thing to bring it up, another thing to talk about what is prevalent for our country and what might be problematic in the way our society is splitting. wouldn't one of the candidates think to bring it up or is that asking too much? >> it's not a great issue. most of the party would have liked to stay the course, are critical of obama, the troop withdrawal schedule. on the other hand, there are a lot of amer

your responsibilities have you delegated to others so you can compete against mitt romney and michelle bachmant texas is over the last decade, i've had really wonderful people to work with, lieutenant governor knows his business really well. emergency management team that is as good as there is in the country. so no matter where i am, we're in constant contact and managing these events. we have competing hurricanes from time to time when we had katrina, followed by ike. we've have tornadoes, wildfires, floods. texas has a lot of natural disasters that we have to deal with. multi tasking is nothing new to us. >> steve: speaking of competing, governor mitt romney, who once upon a time was the governor of the great state of massachusetts, he's coming out with his jobs plan later on today that features 59 specific proposals and ten concrete actions he would take on the first day. people currently, you're the front runner in a lot of polls on the republican side. where is your jobs plan? >> well, the 50 things that i'm focused on right now are the number of fires in the state of texas. so there is

michelle bachman, everybody, sarah palin. all right. on to another topic now.mments. chris wallace promised us yesterday that when he had his interview with dick cheney, we would hear things that definitely would be news makers, and you definitely can believe that that was true. mr. cheney was speaking about hillary clinton, for instance. she might have been the better pick. listen to this. >> perhaps she might have been easier for some of us who are critics of the president to work with, but -- >> why do you say that? >> i have the sense that she's one of the more competent members of the current administration and it would be interesting to speculate about how she might perform where she would be president. >> hillary clinton's poll number, high 60s. barak obama's poll numbers are right now, both sides of the aisle seem to agree she's done a pretty darn good job as secretary of state. interesting to hear that from the former vice president. >> it sure s. turning our attention now to your mail which might not be delivered later this winter because the post off