instead, and mike lee handed the phone over. what mike lee is a saint that he is being quoted in a context that is not true, he is the source, and he has asked for those comments, that part of the evidence that has been entered into the congressional record to be stricken. that is what the vote is about at the moment. it is going to be a very close vote, but you can see, mike lee is unhappy about it. mike lee is a constitutional lawyer, is a constitutional expert, and the views of some. he is also a big supporter of donald trump. it will be interesting to see how this actually plays out. it is interesting, this has become a point of contention on the senate floor during a trial, rather than some of the evidence we have heard in the last couple of hours, which of course we have heard from prosecutors, talking about what happened at the white house during the assault. the fact that for more than two hours, there was no attempt to call the national guard, even though several people called donald trump and said, you have to help us

instead and mike lee 100 the phone over what mike lee is saying is that he is being courted in a context that is not true he is the source and he has asked for those comments that part of the evidence that has been entered into the congressional record to be stricken and that is what the vote is a vote at the moment. it's going to be a very close vote but you can see that mike lee is very unhappy about it mike lee is a constitutional lawyer he's a constitutional expert in the views of some he is also a big supporter of donald trump so it will be interesting to see how this actually pliant pans out it's interesting that this is become a point of contention on the senate floor during the trial rather than some of the evidence we heard in the last couple of hours which of course we've heard from the prosecutors who said talking about what happened at the white house during the assault here and the fact that for more than than 2 hours there was no attempt to call up the national guard even though several people called donald trump and said you've got to help us out here you've got to

mike lee came to washington d.c.a very conservative constitutional tea party republican to fight for the values that the founding fatthes want. mike lee expressed more outrage about being misquoted allegedly. >> allegedly. >> today than i have heard him express about what happened at the capitol on january 6th and in fact, just yesterday i believe it was, senator lee when asked by a reporter, i assume fox because he doesn't do a lot of non-fox, when he was asked about the president's speech that day that led to the incitement of the crowd and deadly attack on the capitol, he said that donald trump just like everyone deserves a mulligan, a mulligan. like this is some golf game. not that there are eight people dead, five killed that day. a mulligan. that was his view of donald trump's speech but he was very, very upset about allegedly being misquoted and that says everything you need to know where the republican party is right now. >> that's exactly right and more broadly wrapping up what we saw and heard all day, the

it was on mike lee's phone. >> mm-hmm. >> and he gave his phone to tuberville. senator mike lee's office has confirmed that that phone call did, in fact, happen. they disputed what mike lee may or may not have said about it, but they confirmed that the call happened for sure. >> yeah, and i want to go to the white house right now where we have kaitlan collins, who can offer some more information about this phone call between then-president trump and house republican leader kevin mccarthy. it is a damning account, kaitlan, the president saying that the mob, the terrorist mob cares more about the election than mccarthy does, and apparently mccarthy is telling a lot of people this story. >> reporter: well, right. and of course if you look at what mccarthy's response was, he was clearly getting incredibly irritated with the president. you don't often hear about someone like kevin mccarthy pushing back on former president trump, but that is what jamie is reporting he did during this call. it grew quite heated, it seems, and it really does show how it wasn't just kevi

and then mike lee approaches the podium as those to discuss, look like they were discussing what just happened, reporting for the huffington post with this tweet, pandemonium on the floor he describes, lee wants something about managers said struck from the record, lay he is having trouble reading the ruling and cannot turn his microphone on, we can't hear you with the mask on grandpa shouts. the senate is in quorum to figure it out. it sounds like there's more to come on this tomorrow when they adjourn, reconvene at noon eastern time tomorrow. i want to show you the moment mike lee is referring to when david cicilline the democrat of rhode island one of the impeachment managers that helped write the articles of impeachment for these proceedings, he's talking about a phone call that the president made as the violence is happening on capitol hill. >> shortly after 2:00 p.m. as the seed was fully underway then president trump made a call, this is the first call that we are where he made to anyone inside the capital during the attack. he did not call the vice president to ask how he

republican utah senator mike lee held a fund-raiser at trump's mar-a-lago clubhouse on sunday, charging $10,600 per couple. see the one-six there. to commune with the captain and tenille of republican trolls, matt gaetz and laurie boebert. the gop's focus on fund-raising maintains a strict focus on themselves. but that isn't the only reason so many texans are cold and in the dark, and believe it or not, it's not the absolute worst. this crisis is linked to the uniquely republican obsession

. >> dana: mike lee raising concerns about the impeachment trial of president trump and possible misuse of impeachment in the future. tom cotton joining us now on capitol hill. wanted to ask you something. how much do you think democrats are worried about the legislative agenda stalling out as you see that president biden and the white house press secretary jen psaki are shutting down any questions about impeachment, trying to focus on legislation? >> good morning, good to be on with you. i'm worried about the legislative agenda stalling out what we should focus to see what joe biden has done to create a crisis at the border. they have said we have a surge in migrants at our border. we should be addressing that kind of thing. why the fda is taking three weeks to approve the johnson & johnson vaccine or have a hearing on it. we're focusing yet again on donald trump. the democrats are obsessed with him. to convict and possibly remove from office a man who left office three weeks ago. i don't think many americans

what has changed between then and now that mike lee is afraid of what his own office confirmed? >> i know we're all wondering the same thing. we're not sure if there was some nuance it wasn't accurate or trying to get his name officially struck from the record. he wasn't forthcoming with us about why he jumped into that. he didn't want to explain what was accurate and what wasn't accurate. certainly was clarified the format reporting a magazine article or a published article. so they were not inventing some fact unless you point out his office had confirmed it. but to our sense, it was an effort either driven by his desire not to have his name in the record in that fashion, or simply to create a ruckus in the middle of this powerful or at the end of the day, but before the next session of this powerful presentation. you would think every republican right now is going we know that if it wasn't our base being so dedicated to trump because they live inside the trump media bubble, we would absolutely be voting to convict, because this is overwhelming insurrection. we haven't seen th

but mike lee apparently has some objection. and it's also important to note, of course, senator lee has also been huddling with the president's defense team over the past couple of days. so he seemed to have already made his choice, chosen his side on where he stands here wanting to help the president in this acquittal. so they're still convening on the senate floor and they haven't broken up this quorum call yet, which means they haven't figured out where exactly it is going and how to move on from here. >> lea caldwell, thank you for giving us the additional context and trying to reach directly senator lee's office. our special coverage continues. i have my colleague katy tur with me. katy, i also want to give viewers an update what we're living through. it was an unusually and unexpectedly busy morning in the senate the past few hours and then we went right back into closing arguments. right now we have the pause for the senator lee objection. it's our job to be clear of what we're looking at here, the senate is clearly delib

, and they do include exactly who you may think they would include, lindsey graham, ted cruz and mike lee, are jurors in the case. they took an oath. they took an oath to be impartial jurors. senator cruz is not even trying to cover for himself. he said the meeting was held to discuss strategy for tomorrow. i mean, just imagine jurors sworn to judge a case meeting with the defense lawyers to talk strategy. i it's a mockery of the process. trump attorney david schoen was asked by manu raju was asked if the meeting was out of line. he said, quote, that's the practice of impeachment. there is not anything about the semblance of due process whatsoever. so let's just be clear again here. they did take an oath. some republican senators, these jurors, sworn to impartiality in the impeachment trial are helping the trump defense team with strategy in broad daylight. they used their identfinal day arguments to warn trump remains a danger unless he is convicted. jeff zeleny is out front live on capitol hill. jeff, what are you learning about this meeting tonight to help with strategy, as ted cruz sa

was to strike them. >> host: that took place yesterday about that call to the senator of alabama, mike lee objected to the claim that the call was directly to him. more of the story, by the way, available at salt lake tribune this morning and reporter who had an exchange with senator lee about the call and including a text message between the reporter and senator lee about the call and available they'll at the salt lake tribune website. carl is in cincinnati, ohio with independent line. go ahead. >> caller: it is charles but i just don't understand -- before coming into the proceedings of this impeachment i was on the fence because it kind of does seem a little frivolous to bring these changes against trump but after watching the past two days i don't understand how anybody can miss this in their language that trump used. it reminds me of like what happened with kristallnacht, it's like saying the speech in the beer hall didn't rile up those people to go and smash all the doors and the windows. it is the same kind of thing. just because the language that is used is able to be interpreted d

we'll start there tonight with mike lee.d to have you back, sir. >> thank you good, to be with you. >> i'm going to read the tweet and put it up. these are her words. this is what she said. i'm hope that work with republicans on this issue where there is common ground referring to something that had been proposed but you almost had me murdered three weeks ago so you can sit this one out. happy to work with almost any other gop who aren't trying to get me killed. in the meantime if you want to help you can resign. members of congress don't trust each other accusing each other of some pretty serious things. >> it's too bad. it's a missed opportunity for aoc and the country. look, path for unity is through genuine debate and when each party sort of retreats to its own corner and starts speaking only to its base especially in inflammatory terms no one wins. the american people certainly lose out. and, look, show making it about her, shannon. and by doing that, she's really losing an opportunity. remind me of a few years ago when

there's obviously something that david to celine has said about mike lee who is a republican senator from utah if you look at the screen to the right of the speaker's chair there is that's where don't trust him or been sitting and might cleave who is the senator from utah is the new speaking to me at the moment because he has raised an objection saying that david salinas said something that isn't true i think this is going back to the phone call that came into the chamber that went to mike leigh's phone call when donald trump was trying to get in touch with tommy tuberville who is the new senator from alabama this is very domestic u.s. politics but essentially. mike lee has been quoted as saying something that he says he did not see or did not do david cicilline is entering into the record might lead is trying to overturn the reality is that there shouldn't be an interruption because you get 2 hours to present your closing arguments then trying to team do as well but mike lee has used parliamentary process here essentially to say hold on a 2nd we need to stop and discuss this which i

. >> at the close of wednesday's impeachment trial, senator mike lee made an effort to have a remark attributed to him in a newspaper article removed from the record. the remark caused some confusion on the senate floor. >> mr. president. >> majority lead are. >> pursuant to impeachment rule 16 i make a motion. statements were attributed to me moments ago by the house impeachment managers. statements relating to the content of conversations between the phone call involving president trump and senator tuberville were not made by me, they were not accurate and i request pursuant to rule 16 that they be stricken from the record. >> murt to the senate resolution 47 section 4, parties presentations are not limited to the record provided for in section 1 of that resolution. >> mr. president. >> senator. >> i didn't hear what he said. [inaudible] >> mr. president, mr. president. mr. president. right here. we might as well hear clearly what the ruling of the chair was so if you would repeat that. >> of course, i will and pursuant to senate resolution 47 section 4, the party's presentations a

to help us sort through this question senator mike lee is with us and it is our great privilege to have him with us. senator lee, the senior senator from utah and chairman of . he has the most keen understanding of senate rules and procedures and where they intersect with future policy outcomes. make no mistake, when senator lee says a rule or procedure is important, we sit down and listen. senator lee, thank you for joining us today. sen. lee: thank you, tony. we appreciate the invitation. and look forward to a conversation on this really important topic. i cannot think of a more important one we could possibly discuss. the whole point of the filibuster, like the point of the senate itself, is to provide for a place where we can have deliberate debate, forge compromise and consensus, among our diverse populace. it is a common sense way to protect the rights of minority views within a legislative body. the left [indiscernible] [indiscernible] left -- [indiscernible] -- by the way, at the outset we should define what we mean when we refer to nuking of the filibuster. the filibuster itsel

to help us sort through this question senator mike lee is with us, and it is our great privilege to have him with us is. the senator lee, the senior senator from utah, the chairman of the joint economic committee and chairman of the senate steering committee, but i wanted to speak with him about this particular issue because he has the most keen understanding of senate rules and procedures and where they intersect with future policy outcomes. make no mistakes, when senator lee says a rule or procedure is important we at heritage sit down and listen. senator lee, thank you for joining us today. >> thanks so much, tony. we really appreciate the invitation. around we look forward to our conversation of this really important topic. i can't think of a more important one that we could possibly discuss. the whole point of the filibuster just like the point of the senate itself, is to provide for a place where we can have considered, deliberative debate, to forge compromise and consensus among our diverse and currently very divided populace. it's a prudent and common sense way to protect the rig

he was actually looking for senator tuberville, in fact, he addressed mike lee, senator lee asked tommy lee said let me hand the phone to senator tuberville. and the contention was made by the house managers that lee overheard the president telling tuberville to put more pressure on senators to try to halt the counting to have electoral vote and lee is saying, i've never said that. i didn't hear what was said in the conversation. i didn't overhear anything in the phone. i just hung close to senator tuberville because i didn't want to lose my phone in the chaos which also raises the question of if the president was calling senator tuberville at that point, was he fully aware of what was going on in congress at the time. mike: that's exactly right. we are all looking at this a month after after the event. hindsight is 20/20, we see the full scope now but none of that was known in those moments. again, it's so important that senator lee pointed out, having said or done simply didn't happen. i think the president's counsel was right yesterday to point out or at least ask the question how mu

utah senator mike lee talked about the senate filibuster at an event hosted by the heritage foundationthis is just over 30 minutes. >> will the nature of the senate be preferred in favor of ramming through an agenda the that's -- that does not enjoy broad-based support amongst people or in the united states senate. to sort through this question, senator mike lee is with us and it's our great rebels to have them with us. the senior senator from utah is the chairman of the joint economic committee and chairman of the senate steering committee but i wanted to speak with him about this particular issue. he has the most keen understanding of senate rules and procedures and where they intersect with future policy outcomes. make no mistake, when senator lee says a rule or a procedure is important, we at heritage sit down and listen. thank you for joining us, senator. senator lee: thank you so much, i appreciate the invitation. i look forward to our conversation on this important topic. i cannot think of a more important when we could possibly discuss. like the point of the senate itself, the

she calls balls and strikes, and what she essentially was saying is that mike lee's motion was out ofer because he may be upset that something was said that he doesn't think is true, but the rules don't give him the right to strike it. so he appealed the ruling of the chair so this vote will be on whether to sustain or overturn the ruling of the chair. joe manchin tried to get in there. chuck was trying to call an absence of a quorum. the absence of a quorum is what's done that allows everything to pause for a minute for everyone to talk and figure out what's going on, but really what this was is this is pent-up frustration by those people who are trump loyalists over the powerful presentations that were made today, and they are trying to figure out some way to gloss over the really, this dagger to the heart of their lame excuses for donald trump and the terrorist mob that caused death and destruction in the capitol. it was on lee's part to disrupt everything and this is where it will get tricky if it's 50/50. we'll see what happens here. >> that was the distraction. let's get to the

party in the senate have been helping the chump team with their presentation ted cruz among them mike lee among them to lawyers who are just wholly as well who are big supporters of donald trump who. perhaps have got ambitions of running in 2024 for the republican nomination so want to be seen very much on the side of the base and even though they're meant to be impartial jurors that impartial jurors in quotes they have been consulting with donald trump's defense team so there are all sorts of fractures and breaks and. disputes going on in the team and quite how it manifests itself when it comes to the call for witnesses perhaps that will become clearer over the coming hours. all right thanks so much alan fischer that was just pause for a bit and remind ourselves might be useful do this right now what's been happening in the last few days don trump is accused of inciting an insurrection is lawyer says he's innocent and it's the democrats who are waging a witch hunt house impeachment managers say it's anything but they presented never before seen footage of the capitol hill attack on janua

"second day of the former president's impeachment trial ended in chaos after an effort by mike lee toemove the managers from the record sparked widespread confusion. lee stood at his desk and asked to strike comments made by house lawmakers that related to him, that he appeared to be referencing statements, while giving his part of the presentation, managers said the former president called tommy tuberville and instead called lee. here is what happened yesterday. [video clip] >> impeachment rule 16, i make a motion. statements were attributed to me moments ago by the house impeachment managers, relating to the content of conversations between a phone call involving president trump and senator tuberville. they are not accurate, they are not made by me. they are contrary to fact. pursuant to rule 16 they be stricken from the record. >> senate resolution 47 section 4, presentations not limited to the record provide for section one of the resolution. >> [indiscernible] >> couldn't hear what he said? >> [indiscernible] >> mr. president -- >> [indiscernible] >> mr. president, mr. president,

i have liked them very much. >> yeah. >> mike lee, if anybody asked me about mike lee, i would say mikeyeah. >> i like mike. and yet mike lee talked about how donald trump should be given mulligan, using a term for a cop killer mob going to the hill because of donald trump. and, by the way, nobody has to prove it. we all know that's the case. yet mike lee is saying, oh, you know what, cops were killed. the center of america's government was ransacked. let's give him a mulligan. lindsey, hell, i got into congress with lindsey in '94. listen, i've always said he's not a guy that you would want guarding the pentagon. but lindsey was somebody you could work with, talk to. i mean, john mccain certainly thought so until the end when he was obviously bitterly disappointed in lindsey. but you look at lindsey, and this is a guy who, after seeing cops killed and after hearing the screams, and lines had been breached, and women and men in blue getting brutalized by donald trump's mob, he acted like he was shocked by the impeachment manager's presentation. even knowing these people. i have known li

elizabeth: we also have republican senator mike lee that says this is an issue and reports of formerinistration officials undercut president trump and his administration setting up a back channel to iran involving officials like john kerry. senator mike lee said it republicans do that they would be charged with the logan act just like general flynn with the civilians doing iran to talk to a foreign power, general flynn and russian ambassador. i like your meeting with senator lee. >> if you have former republican officials doing this during a democratic administration there would be called for those individuals to be prosecuted. this is something people in the obama administration actively investigated people for doing. and i think that is really disheartening in a word, really uncool for them to do this during the trump administration, actively undercutting, then the current administration in charge of the united states government. elizabeth: what do you think tom? >> i think uncool is an act description i think of a few more adjectives i would like to use its mission critical that t

senators mike lee, lindsey graham, and ted cruz met on capitol hill.were working on a strategy and the republican senators were, quote, making sure we're familiar with procedure. problem is the three senators who are also jurors in this trial puts the lie that this is an impartial notion -- it is not. it is a political kerr size. cruz told cnn, i think the end result of this impeachment trial is crystal clear to everybody, which is tha

senator mike lee has plenty of pointed questions of his own in a hearing today, he's live next. seen and heard in reverse] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ sfx: [sounds of fedex planes and vehicles engines] ♪♪ sfx: [sounds of children laughing and running, life moving forward] .. >> shannon: nicholas mcquaid, the acting chief of the justice shannon: nichols mcquaid, acting chief of the justice department's criminal division was until recently a law from colleague of the attorney representing hunter biden was when asked about a potential conflict the justice department issued a statement that all doj employees when it comes to recusal, let's assess the situation and merrick garland, member of the senate judiciary committee, was asking questions, mike lee, good to have you back, senator. are you confident in what you heard today from the nominee that any investigation involving hunter biden will be fully transparent and we will get the end results if there are some. >> we would hope and expect nothing less, the nation's largest law firm, a very significant department of the us government. there were a numb

last night trump's team caught in a room with lindsey graham, ted cruz and mike lee.enators are both jurors but they're also victims and arguably complicit themselves to the extent they also participated in fueling the big lie. >> yes. >> how should people see this? >> look, at the end of the day even though alexander hamilton, the founder, said that impeachment is a political process not for something that is a statutory crime, the senators are jurors. they all took an oath to do impartial justice under the constitution. counselor, i have a question for you, laura. typically if jurors were conspiring with defense attorneys -- >> they'd be thrown off the case. >> reporter: would they be pulled off the case? >> yes, immediately. part of the problems, one of the jurors is the judge. this whole thing is turned on its head. how is the judge going to throw them off the case? he's a juror. >> reporter: just because this is an unprecedented situation, doesn't mean certain standards apply. they took an oath to do impartial judgment, they're doing the opposite. >> thanks for d

kicking around legal strategy with some of donald trump's biggest defenders, lindsey graham, ted cruz, mike lee. on the other side house managers are telling our team they are satisfied with the case they've made. they think they've set a high bar for donald trump's defense but this morning conviction still seems unlikely. we're going to explain why coming to you live from the nation's capitol. i'm hallie jackson and in the next 90 minutes you will hear what our sources are telling us about where this goes, you'll hear from massachusetts senator ed markey in the chamber, and former white water prosecutor, and you'll also hear from katy tur and stephanie ruhle in washington with us here. let's start with what to expect over the next 24 to 48 hours. this thing is about to start picking up speed. here's the timing. donald trump's defense plans to start and end their arguments in less than four hours today, that's the plan. attorneys say they don't see a need to, in their words, drag this out. >> which means the next step, the question and answer portion could also start today. and this part could

host: again, that was about the call to senator tuberville of alabama, mike lee objecting to the call that -- to the lane that it was directly to him. a reporter had an exchange with senator lee about the call -- to the claim that it was directly to him. a reporter hadn't exchange with senator lee about the call. it is only -- it is on "the salt lick tribune" website -- "the salt lake tribune" website. charles is next. caller: i was kind of on the fence because it does seem a little frivolous to bring these charges against trump, but after watching the past two days, i don't understand how anybody can miss the incendiary language that trump used. it kind of remind me of what happened with kristallnacht. it is like saying that the speech in the beer hall didn't cause people to go smash all of the windows. it is the same thing. just because the language that is used is able to be interpreted different ways, or different people can take it how they feel and see fit, it doesn't mean that what was said did not directly motivate them and encourage them to do that. i just don't understand ho

why is it that utah republicans for example are willing to have a mike lee who is much more in line withrump wants to see the party. also a mitt romney 6789 it's a function of election cycles? he seems to be holding a support there. what's that distinction that exists? what happens in wyoming? is cheny who voted for impeachment in the house one of ten republicans to do so. is she at risk there? could the family actually reach that level or is she too in a special spot. what is the distinction? what is it that allows a republican potentially to whether this storm. that is the unanswered question. is it simply boldness and speaking your mind and something about the constituents and until republicans broadly figure out the answer to that or some sense of what the formula might be, they are at risk of being buffeted. >> you have your answer from mike lee today. did you see how anxious he was to make sure there was no record he said anything about what trump said to anybody? i want to know how'd they get his voice mail. if he had nothing to do with the conversations. was he hacked? that's how

of course, mitt romney who voted to convict former president trump, senator mike lee who voted to acquit former president trump, but they put out a statement saying that it's the differences where the power comes from. and that they are celebrating difference of thought. so one state republican party really breaking from the pack in all of this. but we're seeing a lot of pushback across the country. >> we'll talk to the head of tthe utah republican party a little later this hour about that. thank you, jess. >>> still to come -- most republicans who voted to impeachment former president trump are facing some serious backlash in their home states. not utah. we'll talk about that ahead help. >> house speaker nancy pelosi is calling for a 9/11-style commission to investigate the january 6th attack on the capitol. we're going to speak to two architects of the original 9/11 commission. >>> and millions of people are now without power in texas as temperatures in that state plunge to dangerous levels. what went wrong? >> it's like a walk-in freezer. it's like 34 to 36 degrees, i would say. you k

you see the huddles around the defense lawyers and defense impeachment managers to mike lee's objection. mike everett of political reporting senator mike lee has a point of order after david cicilline talked about the trump call, he was trying to reach senator tommy tuberville, said something that is not true is what mike lee said on the floor. we will watch and see what happens next, live coverage on c-span2. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations] . [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. [inaudible conversations]. >> madam, mister president, i asked the koran be dispensed with. >> the senator from utah. >> withdraw. senator leahy: the chair would advise everybody the evidentiary record is closed, the scope of these things, not admitted into evidence. new evidence is not permitted in closing arguments, references to such new evidence will be stricken. the house managers have a quorum and wish to res

on thursday evening, three republican senators -- ted cruz, lindsey graham, and mike lee -- met with trump's legal team in the capitol, raising fresh doubts over their ability to serve as impartial jurors. after headlines, we'll air extended excerpts from trump's second senate impeachment trial and get reaction from longtime consum advocate lph nader. the united states reported nearly 3900 new deaths from covid-19 thursday,ushing the u.s. death toll past 475,000, by far the highest in the world. here in new york, the top aide to governor andrew cuomo apologized to democratic lawmakers this week for not initially reporting close to half of the 15,000 deaths at nursing homes and other long-term care facilities. meanwhile, california has surpassed new york as the state with the highest death toll with over 46,000 covid deaths reported. health officials in los angeles temporarily closed five vaccination centers thursday, including a massive site at dodger stadium, after the city ran out of vaccine doses. in bethesda, maryland, president biden sited the national institutes of health where

mike lee again, a very vocal, very staunch trump loyalist.moment. yes, all bets were off for a long, long while. we were sitting here wondering whether or not we're going to be for another week or whether the proceedings would resume. they did as you say strike a deal though. we now know that there are no further witnesses to be called. let's bring in an assistant research scholar at columbia university and presidential historian. the obvious question is, how will history look at the second impeachment trial of a president and the first trial to be held after a president has left office? �* . . held after a president has left office? �*, ., , ., office? it's a good question. i think that _ office? it's a good question. i think that it _ office? it's a good question. i think that it will _ office? it's a good question. i think that it will always - office? it's a good question. i think that it will always be . think that it will always be bracketed with the insurrection it sells. so while we can't look at a second impeachment as something that

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but we now know that both mike lee and tuberville can say that tuberville took that call and got off that call ten minutes before trump sent the tweet going after pence again. they really need to stress that in closing argument because i think that is the underbelly. i think that is the tender underbelly of the trump defense. and it is really all about that trump was willing to put pence at that kind of risk and everybody in that room i think would respond to that. so i think that should be a really important part of their closing argument. most of the trump lawyers today, that one guy got really trumpy, van der, whatever his name, he got very trumpy in closing arguments. he reminded me of trump. i don't think it was very effective. raskin was. but i think that is the winning argument, not that you'll maybe get very many, but you might get a few more on what trump did to mike pence on january 6th. >> michael, before i get to you, can i invoke nicolle wallace's white house experience? mine is based on being an observer. nicolle, speak to the awareness of where the protectees are among

[applause] >> dana: you have been listening to senator mike lee of utah. he was talking about the founding fathers and the references back to today and what the country is dealing with. great speech there by senator mike lee and trace, i know you have been watching along and other people can watch along as well. >> that's right. we're waiting to here from steve scalise and senator ted cruz. fox nation is your ticket to all cpac events this weekend. a daily recap hosted that is streaming on fox nation today through sunday and you can get a 30-day free trial with the code c pac. >> dana: that's a good deal. let's talk about this. a vote on president biden's covid relief bill is expected today in the house. the bill will not include a minimum wage hike that could have doomed it in the senate as debate rages. let's look at the numb wehrs with steve moore and austan goolsbee. steve, we couldn't have planned this better to have you this morning. you had a piece in the "wall street journal" today co-authored with casey mulligan. want to read a couple of things. h

. >> at the close of wednesday's impeachment trial, senator mike lee made an effort to have a remark attributed to him in a newspaper article removed from the record. the remark caused some confusion on the senate floor. >> mr. president. >> majority lead are. >> pursuant to impeachment rule 16 i make a motion. statements were

mike lee, the senator, put him on speakerphone and tuberville talked to him and tuberville said to him, i can't talk to you right now because the vice president has been evacuated. ten minutes later, mike pence is the subject of a tweet from donald trump, getting attacked by donald trump. now, that's what the trump attorney said today was hearsay. when i caught up with tuberville later in the afternoon, after the proceedings, he said he stands by that account. of course his exact quote was, this is what the president told him, he told the president, he said, mr. president, they've taken the vice president out, they want me to get off the phone, i've got to go. that was the extent of their phone call. so all this shows, chris, is that donald trump was aware of what was going on. but the trump team just did not have any real clear answers about why he didn't act sooner, what he was doing, what his mindset was. they sidestepped that question time and again. and i can tell you, talking to republican senators tonight, they were just not satisfied with his responses, including bill cassidy,

and you could really see the physical divide between them and lindsey graham, mike lee. the balcony watching instead of sitting at his desk on the floor. at one point, graham, lee, went and huddled with the defense attorney. this is the divide literally playing out on the floor of the senate. that group around mcconnell is fascinating to me, joe. we do not know how mcconnell is going to vote. while i had previously had a sense that we would see these five republicans vote to convict or there would be some sort of landslide, it would be 20 plus people, i think now it's possible we could see between 9 and 12 vote to convict. it is clear there is some sort of conversation happening among this group. that is the reporting i'm going to be looking into today. and you talk about john thune being around the mcconnell group. obviously concerned and some of the things he said over the past, that concern is only growing more by the day. tom nichols, if you're john thune, mitch mcconnell, mitt romney, lisa murkowski, susan collins, if you're an institutionalist, if you believe in th

what does mike lee say? donald trump deserves a mulligan. a mulligan? no. you don't get a mulligan when you kill a cop, mike. you don't get a mulligan when you batter and abuse a cop, mike. hey, mike, when you're rushing into the capitol to stop a constitutionally ordained process to count votes, and you abuse police officers, and you jam police officer's heads inside of a door, and you bash police officer's brains with fire extinguishers, you don't get a mulligan, especially if you're the one who is responsible for bringing those cop killers up to capitol hill. that's unbelievable. not only cop killers, these people are traitors to the united states of america. they're traitors. and we hear these stories of judges across america who are letting some of these seditionists, traitors leave the country and go to mexico, go to foreign destination weddings? letting them out of jail. why are they being let out of jail? these are seditionists and traitors. if these people were islamic terrorists, they would be sent to maximum security prisons the middle of america

he attacks him not long after he's been rushed out and then mike lee metro a tantrum yesterday and whattrump placed a call, got mike lee, he gives the phone to tubberville and says to trump they took the vice president out. i got to go. so, trump knew mike pence was in danger. to me that's still case closed. >> yeah, no, absolutely. the timeline does intersperse what was happening in the capitol with what donald trump was saying, tweeting or not doing. so from the moment he knew and really he knew before they went that this was the foreseeable consequences of his words and then the capitol had been breached did he send federal troops? did he say to his supporters and we know because we saw supporters through a bullhorn repeating the tweet he sent saying go home and by the time he did it the adrenaline was so high there was no chance that they were going to turn back and it was too late by then so yes. he could have put a stop to it. >> exactly. we now have -- there was another person coming and had trouble getting you on. same question to you. if you have republicans begging trump, incl

i will read a little bit he said that he and senator mike lee had a proposal that would expand the child tax credit, the key difference aside from being a larger credit is that ours is tied to work. it would provide support for him is about maintaining a connection of work, a government check can never replace the ability to earn high wages and fulfill the american promise that if you work hard enough, you and your family will flourish. how do you respond? guest: you cannot approach these piecemeal. while it is useful for folks to have tax credits that can cover the cost of childcare. the problem is bigger. with a pandemic, unprecedented pandemic that many of the facilities are not set up to handle the protocols and needs required to have a system safe and sound and high quality. what people are talking about it is robust investment in infrastructure. let's make sure the providers can do what is necessary to provide care that is safe. you have two provide support that allows people to pay for high quality childcare. this was a problem before the pandemic. this is not new. there are peopl

announcer: utah senator mike lee talked about the senate filibuster at an event hair hosted by the heritage foundation. this is just over 30 minutes. sen. lee: good morning, everybody. to help us sort through this

going to be a lot more polished this time what is interesting is that 3 republican senators ted cruz mike lee lindsey graham all supporters of the president he spent some time with the defense team thursday night to try and horn argument even though they're meant to be impartial jurors impartial jurors in a hearing which is just getting under way on the senate floor let's go and listen in for president. good afternoon senators mr president the article of impeachment now before the senate is an unjust and blatantly unconstitutional act of political vengeance this appalling abuse of the constitution only further divides our nation when we should be trying to come together around shared priorities like ever like every other politically motivated which on the left hasn't gaijin over the past 4 years this impeachment is completely divorced from the facts the evidence and the interests of the american people the senate should promptly and decisively vote to reject it no thinking person could seriously believe that the president's january 6th speech on the ellipse wasn't anyway an incitement to viol

be a key moment here no yesterday right at the end there was a whole procedural issue about what mike lee had said when a phone call went to tony top of a one of his colleagues they told me top of the phone call is going to be important he's a new member of the senate a he is a donald trump supporter he was on a vote would leave that as he won election and he took a phone call from donald trump now according to the timeline he gave yesterday he told donald trump that there was a problem and didn't mike pence have been taken out of the senate chamber and by highlighting not just 10 minutes later don't trump tweeted out a criticism of my pen saying that he failed to do you his duty and of course we've heard of people marching through the whole saying hang mike pence that is something that the democrats feel that they can exploit no they've shown respect to the entire senate chamber they haven't targeted just one single senator saying look you were part of this you did that you did that but the tommy tell the whole thing might become very interesting indeed chuck schumer who is the leader of

republicans in congress were seen huddling with the defense team senators ted cruz, lindsey graham, and mike lee were evidently talking saying they were only discussing legal strategy phillip? >> very latest on this historic weekend. >>> president biden has been largely staying away from the impeachment trial. the white house says mr. biden found the new video of the attack deeply disturbing the president is also remaining steadfast to get americans vaccinated our kristen welker has those details. >> reporter: president biden weighing in on the trump impeachment trial for the first time when pressed by nbc news on the newly released i have owe of the capitol riot >> did you see the riot during the impeachment trial and what is your reaction, mr. president? >> i like other americans has watched the news i think the senate has a very important job to complete, and i think my guess is some minds may have been changed, but i don't know. >> reporter: but the president still would not say whether his predecessor should be convicted. later the white house saying his comments were not meant to offer a p

he then contacted majority leader of the michigan senate mike shirkey and lee chatfield to lobby them to overturn michigan's results. he invited them to washington to meet with him at the white house where the president lobbied them further. let's be clear, he was calling officials, hosting them at the white house, urging them to defy voters in the state. the officials held strong and trump moved on to a different state. my home state of pennsylvania. i'm certain that senators casey and toomey remember what happened there. he started to call election officials including my former colleagues in the legislature. republicans majority leader kim ward and speaker of the house

last night three of the trial's jurors, senators ted cruz, lindsey graham, and mike lee, met with formersident trump's legal team to talk strategy. >> we were discussing their strategy for tomorrow. we were sharing our thoughts in terms of where the argument was and where it should go. >> reporter: when asked if he was comfortable with the team's legal strategy, cruz said the end result of the trial is already clear -- mr. trump will be acquitted. but other senators are keeping an open mind. >> you don't make a decision as a juror until you have both sides, period, end of story. >> reporter: house impeachment managers rested their case, declaring the evidence against former president trump is clear. >> if you don't find this a high crime and misdemeanor today, you have set a new terrible standard for presidential misconduct in the united states of america. >> reporter: the managers allege the former president had a pattern of inciting violence, pointing in part to his lack of condemnation after supporters swarmed michigan's state capitol and the later uncovering of an alleged plot to kid