mike pence is at 53%.s a pretty strong number for somebody, a third of americans didn't know who he was heading into the debate. but on the flip side, when you talk about tim kaine who was a little rambunctious out there and the question ask who best defending their running mate, tim kaine got 58% of that vote. tim kaine did when he had to do, he did it in an inarticulate way in many cases. mike pence did what he had to do, defend donald trump without sacrificing his own values. clearly, mike pence and donald trump don't always sing off the same songbook. >> let's talk about, tell me if you think he wept too far. >> a donald trump supremist, the one in you're hired president in hillary clinton or you're fired with donald trump. donald trump can't start a twitter war without shooting himself in the foot. he's automatic a prernl mt. rush more, moammar gadhafi and saddam hussein. >> oh, come on. >> if you don't know the difference between dictatorship and leadership then you've got to go back to a fifth grade

mike pence stylistically, as you point out, did well. i would point out that on the substance of some of the issues, yes, i thought pence was muscular in the foreign policy debate, although he seemed to e depart from donald trump including his approach to putin. there were other issues on guns, on abortion, on immigration in which kaine did very well, and at the end of the debate, it was an extraordinary exchange, i thought. really, one of the better exchanges i've seen in debates where each of them discussed the issue of abortion. both member of faith, but tim kaine articulated a view that's a widely held view in the country, and mike pence stuck to his point of view which will exhilarate his base, but may exacerbate a problem that trump has with particularly with women. >> especially if you're trying to win over women voters in sub sushs outside of philadelphia, for example. >> right. and who knows if they stayed watching this that long and caught the tail end of discussions. i heard from a lot of democrats who felt that kaine did what

forget mike pence.t's like donald trump's running mate, it wasn't him but he said it on the record. it wasn't him but he got it on the show. it wasn't him. but he sounded like him. it wasn't him. but it was him on the twaryt. donald trump was naked lying on the bathroom floor. it wasn't him. he wasn't paying his taxes but we won't see him no more. it's lies. you know how mike pence doesn't believe in donald trump? the one thing he's impressed about isn't what's above trump's neck but what's right below. >> talks about cease-fire while vladimir putin puts a missile defense while he marshall's the forces and begins, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong broad shouldered american leadership. >> tevor: that's what he says about trump all the time. strong leader broad shouldered american leadership. i'm not making this up. check it out. >> to be around donald trump is to be around a man with broad shoulders. that kind of broad shoulderrered american strength. this is a broad shouldered leader. k

trump's running mate, indiana governor mike pence would seem to face a bit of a tougher task. in addition to having to defend his own far right record on issue like gay rights, pence will likely be pressed to justify shocking behavior by his running mate, plus he may have to explain away policy de differences he's had with his running mate. here's joe biden today. >> i don't know if he really thinks that a lot of what trump is saying makes any sense. what a hell of a way to make a living, have to be vice president and get up every morning and support someone you don't agree with. joining me now, a.j. delgado, senior adviser to the trump campaign. a.j., what i think is interesting about tonight is that mike pence in a lot of ways represents a part of the republican party is a pre-trump part of the republican party. he voted for nafta, voted for the iraq war. he is a guy who embodies this consensus set of ideology, that donald trump in a lot of ways has thrown out the window. do you think we're going to see him talk about the sort of mike pencism or donald trumpism? >> well, i th

and that's why mike pence had a difficult time explaining his position. he's also done the same thing conceptually with syrian refugees jackie kessenich. they just had a court case come down that reviewed pence's plan for indiana to keep refugees out of indiana. basically on the premise that syrian refugees were going to be dangerous. and the correspond was provocative saying there's no proof saying that these people are dangerous. it's like mike pence wants to keep black people out of indiana, he's afraid they might be dangerous. and then last night, well, there's just no proof yet. i think that's a point we'll hear again. >> yes. particularly because it isn't correct, it could take 18 to 24 months to get into this country for refugees. it's scare mon gerrigering as wd from donald trump as well. particularly in the country, only other state i would add to the states listed would be colorado where there are quite a few hispanic voters that they need to vote for them. >>> so, we're covering politics but we're keeping an eye on hurricane matthew. just bashed

trump was in the mood to take credit for putting mike pence on the ticket. f you vice presidential debate last night? job pence didn't incredible . i am getting a lot of credit, because that is my first so-called choice, that was my first higher, as we would say in las vegas. he was a good one. he was phenomenal. he was cool, he was smart. take a look at him. he was meant to be doing what he is doing, and we are proud of governor mike pence. thank you, mike pence. speculation and reporting the notion he would call -- be called not as good of a debater is mike pence. how do you think trump is reacting personally to mike pence's good reviews? element,re is another which you mentioned, the defense of trump's policies. trump didn't really defend a lot of his own policies and mike pence didn't defend a lot of his policies. he didn't tweed in the middle of the night. today, maybe he was protesting too much, over praising mike pence. on the basis of what we have thinkand what i know, i it has been overblown, the notion that trump took offense to the way mike pence p

he's going to try to force mike pence to defend donald trump and poke some holes in that. >> which of course puts pence in difficult position. he wants to turn the tables and put the spotlight on the hillary clinton. let's go to jim acosta and what about mike pence's debate strategy and how he's going to respond what to brianna was j t talking about. >> reporter: aides say he is ready. they say he is prepared for tim kaine's attack ordinance donald trump's tax records. they say if he's not prepared he shouldn't in this race. he'll be the expecting indiana governor to folks on hillary clinton as well. all through the night from benghazi to the the clinton foundation and mike pence, make no mistake, he's done his hork. in contrast to donald trump's last of preparation, pence has been preparing for months and he's very prepared. his marching orders from one official is quote, win. they want to change the narrative of the campaign and they want to get back to winning way, erin. >> the stakes are incredibly high tonight. >> a critical time for this debate. mike smerconish, how -- for tim k

and say even mike pence disagrees. >> i think they'll to have say, mike pence, do you agree donald trump that fat shaming miss universe is the right thing to do? do you think that's presidential? do you think that going after a gold star family is the right thing to do? >> tim kaine can point out the flaws but they're not laying out the vision for manager. 11% think that hillary clinton is honest and trust worthy. there is no clinton-kaine plan. we're more in debt than ever before. more people living in poverty. they have to answer it. they were part of the communication. >> or you may have missed the recession. >> now we're blaming it eight years on bush? >> i listened to you. let me finish. >> a lot of things happened over the last few years but unemployment is at 4.9%. there are 20 to 25 million more people who have health care now than ever before. that's what president obama did. the country is moving in the right zpreks this team has plans. >> all right. a quick break. tonight's debate fast approaching, a cnn reminder. i'll be moderating from washington university in st. louis. cov

mike pence very effective for mike pence 2020. >> i agree for that. >> in order to help it move people to donald trump, donald trump has to follow this up by being more like pence. he has to learn from it. >> well said. let me ask you, chris. if you have to measure if there's any movement on the seismograph here, anything happen tonight? >> polling movement i would be surprised if there was much major polling movement. partly because we have a hurricane bearing down on us, we have donald trump's reactions, we don't know what those will be those will be the news cycle if he chooses to make them. >> trump/pence. >> he opened the door for trump to come back. al gore in 1996 said risky plan 1,000 times and put bob dole's campaign in the ground. i was afraid that might happen tonight if something happened. i'd say it's a missed opportunity for kaine. every time you don't score, they missed the opportunity to close out. a hurricane is coming. donald trump can study the tape. maybe he won't. if he does, whole different ball game on sunday night. >> thank you. i think the conservatives were so

mike pence the poised, calm, steady figure on the ticket. something trump advisers afterwards were absolutely thrilled with. it's something you're going to hear i think repeatedly on the campaign trail from pence going forward here in virginia today. then pennsylvania later this afternoon. both candidates acquitting themselves well. now the question is, can their running mates do the same? carol? >> we'll see. phil mattingly reporting live for us this morning. thank you. even before the debate began you knew how the night would end. both campaigns would claim victory. here's the post-debate photo of donald trump calling mike pence. but here's a twist, campaign insiders tell cnn that trump could be upset that pence actually did too good of a job. we'll have more on that in a moment. and hillary clinton also took to twitter praising her running mate and saying, quote, lucky to have a partner like tim kaine who stood up for our shared vision tonight instead of trying to deny it. cnn's sunlen serfaty live in philadelphia where kaine holds an even

howould not understand governor pence could support any statements.ump's >> do you think mike pence's temperament was a contrast to donald trump or not? senator kaineh and governor pence came into this with most americans believing they are qualified. they both have an extensive experience but what's most troubling is that governor pence was not able, whether it was his temperament are values or beliefs or whatever they are, was simply unable to defend donald trump. the only issue he defended his tax. >> to think mike pence has the right temperament to serve in this capacity? >> i think they have the qualifications to serve in this capacity. the candidates run together and what is troubling here is mike pence was suggesting completely different holidays than his running mate and refused to defend him. so i think the real loser in this debate was donald trump. nobody had his back. and tim kaine was there at every step defending hillary clinton. reeking coherently, so simply. mike pence had an entirely new policy proposal. [indiscernible conversation] >> it is true that hillary clinton'

coming up, what did mike pence and tim kaine hope to publish tonight? for kaine, it might be to do no harm, but after the rough week donald trump has had, pence might have the sharper challenge. he has to break the clinton charge if he doesn't, who's going to do it? coming up at the top of the hour, i'll be joining brian williams and rachel maddow as we get ready for tonight's debate. and then tim kaine and mike pence go face to face in the only vice presidential debate for the vice presidents. we'll be back with full coverage of the debate and i'll be back here covering everything that happens tonight until 1:00 a.m. eastern. we're sticking with you. "hardball's" coming back, and this is a special edition of "hardball" live from longwood university in farmville, virginia, site of the vice presidential debate. as a supervisor at pg&e, it's my job to protect public safety, keeping the power lines clear, while also protecting the environment. the natural world is a beautiful thing, the work that we do helps us protect it. public education is definitely a b

if one thing could trip up mike pence tonight, what would it be? : i think the ticket will be relentless in trying to drive a wedge between trump and pence. i imagine he is prepared for it. if there is somewhere where his body language or words shows that he is not where trump is at defending these outrageous things, that will create a problem for him. mark: tsipras is looking at this as much as anything. -- the press is looking at this as much as anything. a soundbite that reinforces a negative thing about trump, that will be back for him. but he has beaten that she has spoken skillfully throughout this campaign. has spoken skillfully throughout this campaign. john: in the way that hillary clinton has used the words "g enius" to mock trump, you think if pence will praise trump pretty extravagantly, it will turn up in a campaign ad. let me ask you about kaine, same question -- if something could trip him up, what would it be? instinct. pence may go after hillary clinton's ethics in a way that will put kaine in a of position. -- in a tough position.

just minutes from now, we are going to hear from governor mike pence. he has a rally and this comes just 24 hours after his face-off with senator tim kaine. now, kaine definitely led in one area. interruptions. he repeatedly hit pence on some of trump's most controversial remarks while governor pence either chose not to take the bait or not to defend his running mate depending on how you look at it. watch this. >> donald trump during his campaign has called mexicans rapists and criminals. he's called women slobs, pigs, dogs, disgusting. he attacked an indiana-born federal judge and said he was unqualified to hear a federal lawsuit because his parents were mexican. he said african-americans are living in hell and he perpetrated this outrageous and bigoted lie that president obama is not a u.s. citizen. >> did you all just hear that? ours is an insult driven campaign? to be honest with you, donald trump had said all the things that you said he said and the way you said he said them, he still wouldn't have a fraction of the insults that hillary clinton leve

mike pence feeling pretty good today. nce had a debate last night, good reviews from all corners. 36 million people watched pence beat kaine, the lowest ratings since 2000. 50 million fewer eyeballs than paul ryan and joe biden. as far as style goes, mike pence's disciplined defense of donald trump and policies and criticism of hillary clinton and her policies had much the political world declaring, endlessly comes to debating skills. declaring, atorld least when it comes to debating skills, but donald trump was upstaged. himself was in a credit taking mood today in a nevada for putting mike pence on the ticket. mr. trump: how many of you watched the vice presidential debate last night? [applause] mike pence did an incredible job. and i'm getting a lot of credit because that is really my first so-called choice. that was my first hire as we say in las vegas. [applause] and i will tell you the good one. he was phenomenal. he was cool and smart. just take a look at him. he was meant to be doing what he's doing, and we are ver

i believe mike pence did mike pence a lot of good tonight. the question is could he help donald trump? and now i know hugh hewitt's argument is simply mike pence having a good night help's donald trump. okay, that fair. but he left so much unanswered. and tim kaine stylistically, and i know you guys have gone over this, and some people will be uncomfortable with all the times he interrupted. but he was relentlessly on message and relentlessly aggressive against trump leaving pence to make decisions like sometimes defending them, sometimes not. sometimes contradicting him. and i think the -- it'll be interesting to see tomorrow is i think that while pence won the 90 minutes, they may be the ones having to deal with more contradecon contradigses debate. this contradiction between pence and trump, and so this is where as good of a stylistic night that mike pence had, they may have bought themselves, you know, some annoyances at a minimum tomorrow if not some fact check push back. >> let's good further. chris matthews thought that demographically

majority felt mike pence had the better demeanor. >> a lot of the voters also liked mike pence. re's a moment they liked from pence. >> donald trump has filed over 100 pages of financial disclosure which is what the law requires. >> but said would tax returns. >> what did they like about that specific clip? >> reporter: go to those who thought mike pence won tonight and had the good demeanor. ask you become here because you felt like mike pence was more presidential tonight than tim kaine right? >> right. >> reporter: how so? >> more measured responses, wasn't forcing his way into the conversation, just had more respect for the process and seemed more measured and lot more thoughtful than tim kaine. while i think tim kaine probably did -- i liked that he laid stuff out, i just think pence came across as more relaxed and more honest. >> reporter: how about you? >> as far as what he won? >> reporter: pence and his demeanor tonight. >> i felt his responses were more measured. felt like when asked questions did pause. to me that's being reflective before he answers. i did feel he lai

and now let's talk to mike pence's wife, karen pence.e's with cnn's sara murray. >> reporter: thank you very much for being here. your advisors tell your husband tonight wants to focus on poms but inevitably he's had to answer for more controversial things donald trump has said. does he ever feel like he netherlands to needs to be the clean up act? >> you know i think tonight is going to be a lot of the fun. i look at mike's whole life. his whole battleground. and he's really ready for this. he was on the debate team in high school. history major in college. worked for a policy think tank. law school. congress. governor. so i think tonight, i think what he really wants to show is maybe a contrast between the two. i think really if i had to say what mike really wants to accomplish tonight. he wants to show a vision. a vision for america. >> so how did he prep for this big moment? he's not new to the debate stage but this is a very big audience. what did he do today? >> today was kind of fun. we came in last night and we got up this mornin

he cannot do that. >> you have argued does not have the temperament, and you think mike pence's temperament was a contrast to donald trump's or not? >> i think both senator kaine and governor pence came into this debate with most americans believing they are qualified to do the job of ice president. they both have extensive experience but what was troubling was that governor whether a hisle, temperament or values or blue's or whatever it is, was simply unable to defend donald trump. the only issue he defended him on was the issue about not paying taxes for two decades. i think those of them have the qualifications to serve in this capacity. look, these candidates run together as a unit. i would not say that about the trump that was what was troubling, mike reince suggesting -- mike pence suggesting completely different policy than his running mate and refusing to defend him. the real loser was donald trump. nobody had his back. tim kaine was supporting secretary clinton's positions. they were speaking coherently and consistently. mike pence had an entirely new political stand. >> hillary cl

they will want donald trump to copy what mike pence did today. he stabilized republicans and got them excited. it is fair to say, watching years,nd kaine over the this was mike pence at his best, but not tim kaine at his best. john: and republicans i think will hope donald trump can copy some of mike pence's demeanor here, which was calm and reassuring throughout the debate. the question whether donald trump can do that or not is an open one. another thing i think democrats will take comfort in is the extent to which kaine was machinelike in which he raised issues, like donald trump's taxes. pence did not have much of an answer for that. in some cases he did not want to defend trump because he realized he could not. also on russia, another issue where pence tried to deflect rather than rise to the nominee's defense. mark: here we are in longwood, virginia, you're seeing the candidates and their families mixing with supporters. the spin room where john and i are at will see many supporters, the top surrogates. that mike pence would come in, but hi

initial build up. >> playing the prosecutor. >> playing the prosecutor and bring up abortion and mike pence'secord where the constituencies where they do lean democratic. >> how prepare is pence going to be if kaine comes in and deflects the attacks? >> he used to be a talk radio host. this is what he likes to do. he was a congressman and a governor. this is a very prepared set of people. that part that was about the last debate. what is trump going to do? he never has done this before. they are ready for this. it will be interesting to see how they play this off. how pence will react to it. he likes to talk about ideas. he does it all the time. >> casey, you are interesting the battle ground. i want to put them on the screen again. in the last 24 hours. what these candidates are doing. great news for hillary clinton and look at what they are doing. >> as you look through this, thises you that clinton is in a strong position and where she was more at risk, florida and north carolina, they seem to have helped her. i want to underscore ohio and that is the pce where trump is leading in this pol

at the very end when they were talking about their faith that i thought i saw some of the real mike pence, some of the real tim kaine. the rest was kind of a battle between two very important rrogates for these two candidates whoere not there. and that's -- i think pence was more polished in a way. he actually did -- certainly during the second half of the debate, really probably the second two thirds, probably as much interrupting as tim kaine did, but kaine started it, and pence had that sort of evuncular way, softer way of barging in. i do agree that just denying things that are on videotape and that will be replayed endlessly again and again and again, in the days leading up to sunday in the long run is not a good strategy. >> it will be interesting to both of your point, it may help you in the room at the podium tonight to say that, he never said that, he never said that, he never said that, it does make it a story going on for the whole rest of the week, to show that those denials. >> it's not as if the american people don't know he didn't say this stuff. everybody followed over the

what is the biggest worry for mike pence, the biggest screwup? te -- produce a sound they are making overhead announcements, the debate will start soon. the formal debate will start after 9:00. they want people to get seated. pence does not the night to be known from a sound bite from him where he is knowledge is the democrats main argument. he does not want to suggest amplification of the admission the donald trump cannot be president. john: his focus on this ticket, we know donald trump may be wanted someone like newt gingrich or chris christie, but he was put on the ticket to reassure the country and reassure conservatives, those conservatives that had worries he was theretrump, for policy and not to make a mistake. it could seem that he undercuts trump, or he could overpraised trump in a way that seems hyperbolic. , likeling him a genius chris christie did over this tax issue. you can imagine them screwing up and doing that. member of the house of representatives, governor of indiana, i talk radio personality. he understands communication. he

republican mike pence. they will square off as hillary clinton regains momentum and donald trump fends off questions about his taxes. voters are evenly split over which vice presidential candidate will do a better job in tonight's debate's in our brand new poll, 38% expect kaine to come out on top. 38% also say pence will come out on top. of course, you can see the debate right here on cnn. it starts 9:00 p.m. eastern. scheduled to last 90 minutes with no commercials. it will consist of nine segments each, ten minutes long after a coin toss, tim kaine goes first. each segment will open with a question and the candidates will have two minutes for their initial response. the presidential candidates and their surrogates fanned out across the campaign trail today. hillary clinton and daughter chelsea took part in the a town hall in pennsylvania. bill clinton rallied supporters in athens, ohio. and comparing in charlotte, north carolina and donald trump took part in an energy roundtable in denver. bring in our s

however, he put mike pence in a difficult box, because the indelible image, mike pence saying no, no, no, donald trump didn't say that. in fact in almost every instance, donald trump did say that. and the choice to defend that stuff by pretending it did not happen, i don't think it as a political strategy is particularly effective, coming down the home stretch of this race. look, i think you saw some of the big policy differences. this has been a campaign where the ideological differences we talk about in a typical campaign have been blunted. we saw some of that that we haven't seen in the presidential debates. but what i think is really telling is the foreshadowing of the attack which will be used by hillary clinton to close this thing out. which is that donald trump is temperamentally, psychologically unfit to be the commander in chief and to be commander of america's new arsenal. it's going to be that blunt, that stark coming down the very of the race. the attack, which will essentially be, he is nuts. mike pence was not able to move the needle on that in any way by denying that, i

only 35% said mike pence did. >> can i can i can i one quick thought? not sure it will move the needle either. but i think pence pointed the way toward an argument that is more productive for donald trump than the kind of arguments that he has spent most of the campaign prosecuting. i mean as we talked about before, neither side has really put a lot of energy into critiquing the policy agenda of the other side. but clinton and trump have put most of their energy into personally disqualifying the other. and pence showed an alternative path which is essentially after eight years there are always things that americans are dissatisfied with. you can make the case for change and he tried to, as i say, wrap trump in a more conventional, republican agenda and message. the problem is, it required him to ignore or airbrush a lot of the things donald trump has actually said in this campaign and beyond. >> all right. panel, we have to leave it there. we're out of time. thank you very much for all of your insights. we're following a lot of news this morning. so let'

al e-mailed us saying that mike pence acted like ronald reagan and ready in a heartbeat to take over s rude and interrupted numerous times. so insulting. >> nothing of substance. >> lisa posted this on facebook. 100% not kaine. he looked and sounded like a character on a criminal minds episode. >>> let's keep talking about the vice presidential debate. who do you think won? right now in our facebook post. not even close. look at this. 98% say mike pence won. tim kaine just 2%. join the conversation right now on the "fox and friends first" facebook page. #keep talking. >> "fox and friends" starts right now. have a great wednesday. >> see you tomorrow at 5:00 a.m. >>> the thought of donald trump as commander in chief scares us to death. >>> he's not polished like hillary clinton. >> do you want a you're hired president in hillary clinton or a you're fired president in donald trump. >> she had a clinton foundation accepting contribution frs foreign governments. >> you are a donald trump -- [ overlapping talking ]. >> donald trup, somebody who praises vladimir putin. he loves dictators. h

that is going to really be the true test about whether this mattered or whether mike pence and the trump campaign can make the case that pence was the measured one. kaine was the one that was sort of spiraling out of control. pence was the one who can handle being under fire. >> woodruff: michael gerson how do you see this question of how much do you see the campaign taking a different course as result of how well either tim kaine or mike pence did tonight? >> well, as i said earlier, republicans were looking for some kind of morale boost. they may have gotten some tonight. mike pence was calm, he made the best defense that he coulds republicans will take some hope from that given the week, the horrible week that they have had. miserable week they have had. republicans -- democrats will take some hope that this case was prosecuted again and again and again and was not adequate response on a number of issues. so, i'm not sure how much difference that makes. but i think both parties will probably find some way to praise this performance. >> woodruff: republicans take some heart, mark. demo

but fact checkers will have a field day with mike pence. the question of whether or not pence said that vladimir putin is a stronger leader than barack obama. you say pence deny saying that. pence said that. he said it just last month on september 8th in an interview with cnn. >> yeah, we will see how this plays in the days that follow. i want to go to our reporters who cover the campaigns right now, cecilia vega, let me start with you. what are you hearing from the clinton camp coming out of this debate? >> george, it's the first 30 minutes, the clinton camp was declaring victory. no outright declare rations just yet, but they are very happy with kaine's performance. one aide telling me right now that pence ran away from trump and was dishonest about the real record. he is taking some heat from even democrats and allies over the interrupti interruptions, but the kaine saids said, that's the running mate's job and he did what he set out to do tonight. >> back to you, matthew, it seems that in some ways tim himself to do the job for the ticke

another thing mike pence did well. he is folksy. he is from indiana. i do think that trump could learn something from the colloquial way in which pence talks. let's take look. >> i have to tell you, i'm a small town boy from a place not too different from farmville. i grew up with a corn field in my backyard. my grandfather immigrated to this gri. they ability family and a good name. >> a couple things. one which of, the colloquialism of it. another thing is the biographical nature of it. he is talking about himself in human, relatable terms west didn't see a lot of that. >> trump likes fast food and he was born in queens. he'll never be at the same level as pence, talking about being a more ordinary person. donald trump's life for the last several decades has been anything but ordinary. at the same time, i think he is yet to, in a compelling ask hard felt way, talk with people he's met on the campaign trail. a staple of running for president. in the town hall, if trump can't talk about, react to people asking him questions suggests he understand think

if mike pence can deliver it tonight. i just talked to a top pence aide who said he didn't do any additional debate prep today. he feels he is ready to go. he worked out. spent time with his family but felt no need to do additional debate preparations today because he has been doing this, wolf, since he got the nod as donald trump's running mate back in july. that's how long he's been preparing for the debate. he's taken a more conventional approach working with scott walker, playing tim kaine behind the scenes. nick ayers playing the moderator. they say he is ready for the attacks on donald trump's tax returns. they know that those attacks are coming. i talked to one top aide with mike pence who says, yes, he is prepared to handle that. and for good reason. he should be ready to handle other things. i ran into a top democratic strategist in the last several minutes walking up to this live shot who said mike pence better be ready tonight. they'll be coming after him. tim kaine will come after his with everything they've go

>> i think mike pence had a strong night. the fact that he refused to take the debate time and time again as tim kaine clearly tried to get under his skin, and pence remained calm and cool, i think made a strong prosecutorial case against hillary clinton, against barack obama, and against the status question in washington, d.c. i do agreen mike pence was left comfortable defending donald trump. he didn't go out of his way to answer those attacks. that was part of their strategy going into the debates. he did what a good debater often does. receive the attack, respond with a sentence or two, then turn it on your opponent. >> i think the cane strategy is what hillary clinton said a month ago, make it a referendum on donald trump. does it change the strategy when you consider there is another debate four days from now. >> in many respects the two debaters were talking past one another. kaine trying to make everything about trump. and mike pence sort of looking past those attacks and responding and making a case on behalf of conse

i thought she was consistent and on the same tone is mike pence. mike pence was like ronald reagan. if you remember ronald reagan, he had the look on his face if this is a workout we could always go to the ranch. he was on point anything when tim kaine was rude, mike pence had a cadence. >> is fascinating though that the same type of critiques against donald trump's interruptions and how his demeanor was so bad that now republicans are going to spend the entire day saved my pence had the demeanor that hillary clinton had codger telling what it's going to happen. trade to the one and only vice presidential debates in the boat. everybody take a look at the interruptions. >> let's talk about -- >> let me interrupt you. i'll finish my sentence if i can't. true to a live report about hurricane activity activating tivo bloglines go up and down the coast. florida, south carolina comparing for reaction. she and his team on isbn -- "fbn:am," keep your right here. guess what guys, i switched to sprint. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're ta

mike pence put a program in place to keep them out if they're from syria. and yesterday, a court with three republican judges struck down the pence plan and said it was discriminatory. we should focus upon danger. not upon discrimination. >> elaine, to your point, those judges said it was because there wasn't any evinc isis had infiltrated the united states. well, germany just arrested three syrian refugees that are connected to isis. >> they told you, there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. >> if you are going to be critical of me on that, that's fair game. i will tell you, after two syrian refugees were involved in the attack in paris that is called paris' 9/11, as governor of the state of indiana, i have no higher priority than the vice president of the united states, donald trump is president, we're going to put the safety of the american people first. >> can we just be clear. hillary and i will do immigration enforcement and vet refugees based on whether they're dangerous or not. we won't do it based on discriminating against you because of the re

but mike pence canceled. you see the live pictures, we're going to take you there as soon as someone takes to the podium in a few moments. meantime, i know national correspondent jason carroll is there. and he heads up our team coverage along with cnn correspondent sunlan serfaty. so the calls for dumping trump comes hours after that video surfaced of trump making sexually explicit and vulgar comments about women. his microphone was on during an unaired taping of access hollywood in 2005. we do warn you, that the language is extremely graphic. >> i moved on her, actually. she was down in palm beach i moved on her and i failed. i admit it. i did try [ bleep ] she was married. nancy -- ji took her out furniture shopping. she want today get furniture, i said i'll show you some nice furniture. i moved on her like a -- she was married. all of a sudden she's got the big phony tits. >> she's your girl is hot as -- in the purple. >> whoa. whoa. >> yes, the donald has scored. my man. you got to look when you get out.

this is a live picture of mike pence walking in. e's the first one to get here to central virginia. making his way after a rally out near richmond last night. pence presumably going through his walk-through. we can't show you that but we can show you this live. the arrival of mike pence. our coverage begins with meet the press daily at 5:00 eastern and the live telecast starts at 9:00. look what we've got there. talk about a full slate through midnight with the road warrior team. all of it leading us to tonight's microsoft pulse question. do you think the vp debate will change who you vote for in november? the pulse is live. weigh in at pulse. msnbc.com. we'll be right back with more from longwood university including whether tonight's debate will make a difference with voters. stick around. now that fedex has helped us simplify our e-commerce, we could focus on bigger issues, like our passive aggressive environment. we're not passive aggressive. hey, hey, hey, there are no bad suggestions here... no matter how lame they are. well sa

and mike pence. mike pence. okay, good, he did. mission accomplished.nson who appeared on news shows this morning to explain his recent gaffes. he took the opportunity to clear the air, and boy did he do a great job. >> first there was the aleppo moment where you didn't know what aleppo was. and then you couldn't name your favorite foreign leader. so what's, what's going on with you and foreign affairs? how you do explain 240es moments? >> well, alisyn what is it five days now after the name your favorite foreign leader, i still can't do that. >> five days later, he says he still can't name a foreign leader. but maybe we're being unfair. like we're asking a guy to name his favorite foreign leader when there's not even any evidence this guy can comb his hair. >> first i've arrived. that is the -- >> why did he say news shows. we always say the name of his 140e. >> that's right. next up car pool karaoke. that's what i'm pulling for. >> five days later and i still can't do that. >> because he tripped up on the favorite part. not the foreign leader part the

indiana, that mike pence may not remember. he'll hit him with some of that tonight, i'm almost certain. >> the reverse could be true, too. pence could be prepared with kaine's record here in virginia, his record on the death penalty, for example. >> there's no doubt -- look, i think pence has the harder political challenge tonight than kaine has. no doubt pence in addition to trying to buck up the republican base and reassure moderate voters that he vouches for donald trump. and that trump's temperament is suitable to the oval office. he'll take some shots at tim kaine, particularly on some things he's done for criminal defendants. you can imagine some things he'll take shots on. you'll see inevitably that pence's job tonight is more kind of defense than it is offense. and the opposite's true for tim kaine. >> let me ask you about one more thing. michael reagan, the son of ronald reagan, getting some attention today. went on a tweet storm, if you will, after donald trump questioned whether hillary clinton was loyal to bill clin

we don't have any problem with what mike pence did. we can argue because polls show it that what you get was pence being the more likeable candidate. his numbers, his favorability numbers inching up. you saw kaine go down. pence exceeded expectations in terms of his performance. especially so for republicans who some of whom say to me today, they feel like you know, it's buyer's remorse. we hear around the table, maybe he should have been the candidate. >> no, no. >> yeah. i hear that. >> i felt -- when i saw pence, i said, that guy, he is presidential. >> he is more conservative. >> maybe more presidential. >> way more presidential. >> he will not bring out the type of crowds to vote and enthusiasm that donald trump does. >> we don't know that. >> if you started with a mike pence in the field of 17, are you sure mike pence is the last man standing? >> that's the rub. >> obviously not. >> probably not. >> here is my point that struck me last night. i was watching debate with dana perino. >> we had a blast. >> i was thinking, you know wh

in a search of the maryland home of harold thomas martin iii. >>> and donald trump is praising mike pence's performance in the vice presidential debate and seeming to take credit. trump says he's being praised for picking pence as his running mate. we're standing by to hear from trump. he's holding a rally in reno, nevada. we're covering that and a lot more this hour with our guests, including the chief strategist and communications director for the republican national committee, shawn spicer. and our correspondents and expert analysts are also standing by. but let's begin with the trump campaign. our national correspondent jason carroll has the latest. jason, we're standing by to hear from trump in reno. what are you hearing? >> reporter: i can tell you this, donald trump has been complimenting his running mate, saying he remained cool under pressure. when he spoke to a crowd here, he said what they saw last night was an example of his own good judgment. donald trump heaping praise on himself for his running mate, indiana governor mike pence's performance in tuesday's debate. >> mike pence

we should see a feisty mike pence.he two running mates have nearly identical favor ability ratings cain 40 pens 41 which tells us people don't have an opinion about ooeter of them. pens plans ence plans to run ou farmville virginia on a swing state bus tour in pennsylvania and he oh owe and north carolina. heather and clayton become to you. >> the swing states. >> thank you for that update there. there may be a second name on the ballot but there have been memorable moments in past vp debates. >> let me help you with the difference between iran and the embassy in lebanon. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> who am i? why am i here? >>> oo it is my favorite. >> this year the candidates are facing some name recognition problems, though. new abc poll shows nearly 47 percent of americans can't name the vp nominee of either party. >> can tonight's debate impact the polls and help get their names out there. for a history lesson scott rasmussen. >> why am i he

we're just hours away from mike pence and tim kaine's big evening here in farmville. the most high-profile stage either vp nomination has taken. in order for kaine to win, he needs to put pence on defense, forcing pence to own donald trump's controversial comments. joining me is brian fallon. i know it's a big night for your main man with tim kaine, but he has to get out there and talk about hillary clinton's record. we know mike pence will be going after him with hillary clinton's e-mails, the suggestion by certain republicans that the fbi and attorney general gave her a pass and what they perceive as criminal behavior and about clinton's stamina and health. is kaine prepared to take all of that on? >> yes, thomas, we expect all of that and then some probably. but i think the challenge tonight is going to be on mike pence. usually in these vice presidential debates, what the public is looking for is to see, are these people that can step into the shoes of the president if, god forbid, the worst happens and they have to assume the job. but in this case, the questions o

ohio. >> the plane skidded off the runway and close to grave, grave danger, but i just spoke to mike pence, he is fine. [cheers and applause]. he got out, everybody is fine. >> reporter: pence called into the million dollar fundraiser at trump tower he was force to miss. hillary clinton tweeted glad to hear mike pence the staff and secret service and crew are safe. ntsb is investigating the rough landing. the campaign is working on getting another plane. again, the rally is scheduled at bensalem company tc millwork at 2:00 p.m. back to you. >>> as for hillary clinton she has entered her final phase of her campaign with an advantage in cash over donald trump double the amount trump has on hand. clinton campaigns if iowa today. new question emerge on the safety of a brand of baby powder with the result of a lawsuit. maribel aber is live in time square with a look at the market watch. >> reporter: a jury awarded a woman $7 million in the use of talcum powder that led to developing ovarian cancer. earlier this year two other lawsuits ended in jury verdicts worth a combined $127 million. >>> st

it was a narrative mike pence was trying to knock down. called trump the ultimate winner of last night's face-off. trump was in a credit-taking mood today in nevada or putting pence on the ticket. mr. trump: how many of you watched the vice presidential debate last night? [cheers and applause] mr. trump: mike pence did an incredible job, and i am getting a lot of credit because that as my first so-called choice. my first hire as we would say in las vegas. he was a good one. phenomenal. he was cool. he was smart. just take a look at him. he was meant to be doing what he is doing, and we are very proud of governor mike pence. thank you, mike pence. >> speculation and reporting that donald trump did not like the notion he would be called not as good of a debater as mike pence and mike pence was seen as helping him out of the hole. how do you think mike pence is reacting personally? john: there is another element. the defense of trump policies. that is much as a cause for donald trump to be upset. pence did not really defend a lot of donald tr

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trump has mike pence.lthough you could argue clinton's surrogates sometimes fail her like her husband, bill, did on obamacare. >> the people that are getting killed in this deal are small business people and individuals who make just a little too much to get any of these subsidies. why? because they're not organized, they don't have any bargaining power with insurance companies and they are getting whacked so you have got this crazy system where all of a sudden, 25 million more people have health care and then the people are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. it's the craziest thing in the world. >> okay. let's talk about that. with me, republican political commentator and donald trump supporter paris denard and cnn political commentator and hillary clinton supporter hilary rosen. hilary, some people may think you know what, maybe bill clinton just spoke the truth as he knew it and isn't that refreshing. >> well, look, hillary