there is no indication yet that miss veselnitskaya was a representative of the russian government. was a representative of the russian governmentm veselnitskaya was a representative of the russian government. it was not whether she turned out to be what she said she was it is the fact it was offered and he accepted it with no surprise and did not report it as something suspicious that a foreign power was getting involved in an election campaign. what you don't know with all respect is whether or not there was letting down by the campaign as to whether miss veselnitskaya was actually a russian government official, just because she used the words in the e—mail does not mean she was a russian government official. a lot more on that story on the website as well as analysis about where this leaves the investigations. just a day after declaring victory in mosul, iraqi and coalition forces have been accused of using excessive force by the human rights group amnesty international. this is the report on amnesty international‘s website. among other things, it claims that between february and

miss veselnitskaya talks about repealing the magnitsky act -- >> she's the russian lawyer? >> the russian lawyer. -- and he doesn't, in fact, make a speech with dirt on hillary, but the wikileaks start coming out a week later. there's circumstantial evidence that he was told immediately about the fact that they expected shortly, a lot of dirt on hillary from the russian government, and he then said, i'm going to have a speech with a lot of information. >> and we should point out again his son did not tell his father about this at the time. yahoo news is reporting tonight that president trump's lawyers found out about this meeting more than a few weeks ago, when it was found in the e-mail exchange. and at that point they told jared kushner's legal team. but do you think it's possible they wouldn't have told him at that point? >> no. it's perfectly plausible the way the white house seems to operate that they didn't tell the legal teams. but given the timeline i just said and given the fact if you're the president's son and son-in-law and campaign manager, and you get told tha

. >> second question, one of the things, it's been concluded that the meeting that miss veselnitskaya had with donald trump jr. was about eventually lifting all of the sanctions which targeted top officials in the kremlin. now, since january, secretary tillerson has said none of the sanctions will be lifted. many of the russian expatriates and opponents of the kremlin regime have subjected if the president can put this issue behind him, by supporting further sanctions, are there any plans to do that? >> it's specific sanctions, i can't speak to that today. once we have an announcement i'll let you know. dave? >> sarah, thanks. the president has said many times in the past six months that we needed to get the healthcare legislation done first so we can go on to massive tax reforms, healthy economy. can now proud with massive tax reform that will give the biggest bang to the economy without having done the obamacare part of it? >> we're going to continue pushing forward on tax reform and laying out that plan. i know this will surprise a lot of people but we can walk and chew gum at the

correct, if this e-mail actually says that that -- whatever that information that the lawyer, miss veselnitskaya the russian government, then that's pretty major. now, you know, why is all of this happening? i keep going back in my mind, why would -- let's take jack's part, why would vladimir putin want this? obviously, you know, trump was saying things that he liked initially, but also there's this constant returning to real estate, business, investments, sanctions against people who can no longer do business. and it may be ultimately there may be a lot of connections dealing with just down and dirty making money and investments in real estate. >> jack, here's what we know about this russian lawyer, natalia veselnitskaya. a russian lawyer, represents russians wh s who want to see a to u.s. sanctions against them. she said she does not represent the russian government and the kremlin says they don't know who she is. i realize you may not know her, but in general, does anything stand out to you? >> what stands out, she has done work for one of the smaller oligarchs and, you know, denial from the

oh, with regard to the russian government's continuing efforts and miss veselnitskaya's efforts to repeal or weaken the magnitsky act, how did that fit into their broader campaign to interfere in the 2016 election? >> well, the -- it's not clear to me how the two are exactly related. we know what they wanted which was to have the magnitsky act repealed. whether there was any -- perhaps they thought that the probability of that was higher with their preferred candidate than their more preferred candidate than the less preferred candidate. i'm not 100% certain they wouldn't have made the same attempt with the democratic candidate, hillary clinton, if there was any opening or receptivity there. the russians are nonpartisan when it comes to interference in foreign policy and u.s. affairs. they would gladly talk to -- try to bribe and try to blackmail anybody. >> you describe a scenario or an environment in which they are totally ruthless in trying to achieve their ends and it doesn't who they work with. if they sense a weakness they will go after that person and try to gain leverage. after yo

it sounds like a bit of a fishing expedition for anybody with power so we could assume that miss veselnitskayaith other people, potentially other candidates >> i suspect that she probably made 12 attempts to get into the trump camp and got there through one of them and i suspect she made a similar attempt on the clinton camp and various other people i don't think that this was a specially targeted exercise towards trump. she had an agenda, an agenda coming from the top of the russian government to get rid of this law that putin hates so much and she was using every tool she had and spending an unlimited budget to do that. >> and including the dangling of the possible dirt on hillary clinton to lure donald trump jr. into this meeting. two points as we conclude here do you continue to do any business or investing in russia, that's number one. and number two, you asked us not to disclose your whereabouts today. and why? and do you feel threatened or imperiled? >> i've been on a campaign for seven years to get justice for sergei magnitsky and i've got a sanctions legislation passed in the united s

okay, ifif that's the case thene need to get to the bottom of miss natalia veselnitskaya's immigrationtatus, exactly what john mccain's connection to this dossier was. we want to get to the bottom of the leaks and where the leaks are coming out of and the national security council, the leaks are coming out of the fbi, they're coming out of james comey and how he delivered memos to his friend, and delivered to "the new york times." if we want answers to all of this. if this is going to be a comprehensive report on what happened and everything in the g aftermath, it better be comprehensive. i have my doubts. >> sean: on top of those people being put under oath, don't we need to i was asking this and less segment of gregg jarrett. don't we also need to investigate hillary clinton and james comey in the deep state and we can't have unequal application of laws in this country when we know the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible? >> i think we still don't know what countries were trying toro gain access to her unsecured k private server which we heard was not as secure as a regular

told cnn he helped organize the meeting with veselnitskaya as a request to a client named emin agalarov who had business with donald trump senior with the misspageant of 2013 and president trump actually appeared in a music video of this singer, agalarov. >> the president as we know agreed on three key issues with putin when they had the meeting last week, but he's already backing off one of the agreements when it comes to the cyber security initiative. how is moscow reacting? >> the kremlin spokesman was asked about this. and he kind of said, well, it's not entirely clear that this cyber security working group or unit that president trump and president putin both discussed on friday, it's not clear that it's been cancelled. he said no promises had been made to establish it, but there's no question that the two top diplomats who accompanied the two presidents in that two-hour and 15 minute long meeting came out with three things. they were a regional cease fire in syria. appointing a u.s. envoy to deal with the war in ukraine that russia is implicated in and this kind of working group that wasn't clearly defined. secretary tillerson said it

veselnitskaya. she's the russian lawyer they met with, on a request from russian popstar emin agalarov, who worked with the trumps on the missin moscow, and whose father, aras agalarov, is a russian oligarch who has close ties to vladimir putin. they're all connected, see? now, in the middle of this whole conspiracy is donald trump, jr. ( laughter ) you might say he's the key to the whole story-- which i'll symbolize with this keyhole here. okay. that's him. so donald trump jr. gave us the dots. all we have to do is connect them to see where this is going. ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) and, yeah, he's going to jail. ( piano riff ) ( cheers and applause ) we've got a great show for you tonight! joe scarborough and mika brzezinski are both here. andy serkis is here! stick around! ( band playing ) ( cheers and applause ) when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had

but he says of natalia veselnitskaya, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to russia were funding the democratic national committee in supporting miss. that's what he thought he was going to get out of this meeting. he says she failed to deliver on that. she has said nothing of the campaign was discussed at all which is not consistent with what he said. do you think that if donald trump jr. thought she was going to deliver this information, that she did deliver it and that they're being dishonest now or do you think it's possible that she lied to get the meeting? >> well, what i can say for sure is that the russians are very practical people and they would have thought in advance about a quid pro quo, that they wouldn't have shown up saying if your father becomes president, can you remove the magnitsky what they were offering in return may have been what's stated, may have been something else. maybe they changed their mind. but i can assure you that she went in with a deal. what her deal was, we may never know. >> you're saying she just didn't go in and talk about russian adoption with some neigh something at the top of the meeting,

veselnitskaya at trump tower june 9th during the campaign. the e-mails came from rob goldstone, a publicist who worked on donald trump's 2013 miss universe pageantrussia. he wrote that he had a message from a mutual acquaintance. quote: e: >> trump jr. responds: >> in the end, there was probably some bait and switch about what it was really supposed to be about. so there is nothing there. >> reporter: on fox news channel, trump jr. said the meeting was merely opposition research. >> did you tell your father anything about this? >> no, it was such a nothing, there was nothing to tell. i mean, i wouldn't even remembered it, until scouring through the stuff. it was just a wasted 20 minutes. >> reporter: lindsey graham called the e-mails disturbing and problematic, and democrats called for trump jr. to testify. >> this is a pattern we've seen from senior level trump officials that has gone back months, where they deny these contacts from meetings with russians, until the move comes out, and they have to recant. >> this is moving into perjury, false statements, and even potentially treason. >> goldstone wrote he could have certainty the information d

miss universe pageant to moscow. he is close to president putin. donald trump jnr, jared kuschner the president's son in law, paul manafort the former campaignj meeting with the russian lawyer, natalia veselnitskayaet up by goldstone the british publicist, his contact the russian singer and his father aras agalarov, the putin associate, who has had business dealings with president trump. donald junior claims he had no knowledge of who he was meeting or what information was being supplied. the russian lawyer who is now back in moscow spoke to nbc news today to deny she is a kremlin stooge. have you ever worked for the russian government? do you have connections to the russian government? translation: no. they had the impression it appears they were going to be told some information that you had about the dnc. how did they get that impression? translation: it is possible they we re translation: it is possible they were looking for such information, they wanted it so badly. this is what rob goldstone promised in his email to donald trump jr: let's take a closer look at the contents of the email. 0ur senior north america reporter anthony zurcherjoins us now. it looks damning and put into context vlad