>>> monica lewinsky weighing in on the johnny depp and amber heard trial. she says we are all guilty. it's still the eat fresh refresh, which means subway's upping their bread game. we're talking artisan italian bread, made fresh daily! the only thing fresher than their bread is the guy reading this. subway keeps refreshing and refreshing and refreshing and re- >>> monica lewinsky is weighing in on the johnny depp/amber heard trial. in a police for "vanity fair," she criticizes courtroom porn, writing we're drenched in the taint of the dirt and degregs of the social media wars. the obsessive chatter around the depp/heard trial is one small example of the ever expanding, ever demanding search for titillation, no matter who the jury verdict favors, be it defendant heard or plaintiff depp, we are guilty. joining us now is civil rights attorney and advocate nancy erica smith, she represented gretchen carlson in a highly publicized sexual harassment case against fox news and roger ailes. thank you for being with us. what do you think about monica lewinsky said.

testimony is discussed not only on the street, but also in the press, the former white house intern monica lewinsky, the connection with which almost cost bill clinton the presidency delivered its verdict in the case. depp vs heard guilty. everything, but what is happening in her opinion is carried, and pornography, we are so used to the cynicism in social networks that we consider the trial not as a tragedy. but as a car accident, we abandon critical thinking and replace it with cheap thrills. such scattered consumption does not allow us to understand, for real, instead, we only experience fears, indignation and arousal of feelings of the participants in the process, far from positive, both claim that this court ruined their lives, that you lost as a result the fact that ms. heard brought these charges against you, no less these accusations were instantly talked about all over the world, they claimed that i was supposedly alcoholics. drug addicts beat women for me it was all over as soon as these rumors began to spread. i lost right away. i will live with this for the rest of my life. now, when al

the last time we saw something like this was with monica lewinsky -- the incident with monica lewinskyed to testify as to what they had seen president clinton do with or without monica lewinsky. you want to be close to the person you're protecting. if you're testifying about their behavior, that makes the mission of the secret service much, much harder. if we see this happen, it's typically not something they wanted to do. it does make the choice to put those agents out front, that says something. i personally know both agents and especially robert engel, if he says it didn't happen, it did not happen. >> i do wonder, though, to your point, whether -- i mean, look, institutions have been -- our critical institutions have been in a difficult spot over recent years. and what you think this might mean for the secret service as an institution, how important is it to get the truth out there. >> i think they know the truth, whether it did or didn't happen. what's happening is now the public is being told a narrative. is it true, is it not true? secret service don't deal just with the preside

and paris hilton famous for nothing, monica lewinsky was famous for something so i don't know what she'sut i think it's hard to become famous for nothing, i'm a big crashing defender for this reason, people want to watch them eat salads and work out and that's what the show is about and people are all about it so i think i would like to see jennifer aniston try it, you could do it, that's really something. kennedy: jennifer aniston is famous for the dumb salad she brought to the set of friends every day and posted a recipe like every other year and it's like okay, chickpeas -- >> the morning show is some of. kennedy: at the millers and i think she's funny in those movies and then i think the good girls, she was good and that so she can act, she's funny and versatile but anytime someone who came of age and it different decade is pooh-poohing people just getting famous now like okay, boomer. >> will add on days of our lives, romanov was a big. kennedy: thank you very much, karol markowicz. how do you like that, chris? forks for your humble pie. great work, thank you so much, good to talk t

monica lewinsky was thinking beyond the trial, she wrote a really compelling piece for vanity fair.writes, it's the larger implications for our culture that concern me the most. the waves we have stoke the flames of misogyny and separately, the celebrity circus. i mean, it's especially telling for monica lewinsky, someone who truly knows both of those issues, to write this. how seriously should we take her concerns? >> we should take them very seriously. so much of this trial has felt like it's a peephole into the private lives of wealthy, and sort of out of touch celebrities. but it's really been much more of a mirror, it's reflected ourselves back at ourselves. we've been able to see where we are at as a society, a society that is not just interested, but actually enjoys the humiliation of a woman, and the way that we've seen it just happen on the internet but even across conversations, and the way that it's been portrayed in the media, is very worrisome. the math just doesn't add up for people to take this on as their main huge issue. women have a much higher likelihood of being

decades, the secret service and many of its directors starting actually with the whitewater and monica lewinskytion under president clinton, have agents who share any details, any confidence they learn at the side, or the shoulder of the president. the goal is smart, it is you do not want a president thinking that the guys who are right next to him are absorbing his secrets, and gossiping about them later. you want the confidence of those individuals because you want those individuals close. but i grin because the secret service does not want any detail shared, except apparently those who are flattering to the president, and flattering to the secret service. that is one of the stunners for me in exploring this agency. they did not want any detail agents interviewed by kenneth starr about whether or not the president had lied about being alone with monica lewinsky, which he had, and they don't want people sharing any details about things that are unflattering to the president trump. but here, now, we have an agency that says wait a minute, we dispute cassidy hutchinson's account, which she makes

marks on monica lewinsky's blue dress stained bill clinton's reputation, they even tried to impeach himn with the practice, but it was more likely occasion. now the movement is in the mainstream of public life in the usa. mi tu and allegations of harassment. for which, by the way, hollywood producer harvey weinstein was convicted after a scandal with an assistant, which only half of americans believed by revelation, biden managed to get away with it. but from the shower with my daughter, will pedophilia be able to - this is, in general, such a thing that, uh, it's not about political predilections, there are republicans democrats. it's basically the kind of crime, uh, that is condemned by the vast majority of americans. this is all, of course, will affect uh, the results of the upcoming elections in november. and then, maybe you are talking, bake again, a new sex scandal threatens to be on the agenda again. more to bring down biden's already failed rating , his activities are approved by only 39% of americans with such support in the elections in november it is not surprising to lose co

i mean there were so many commentaries and memes and even mo monica lewinsky calling it "courtroom dramae of the first tiktok celebrity trials, which is significant. should there be questions raised how that jury was able to truly isolated from any information about this case for six weeks? gi given, you know, how much of the media zone is flooded and independent and social media campaigns. fundamentally, something has not changed. for a child it seems as though the me too movement undermine the idea of a perfect victim. somebody had to be unassailable in so many ways in order nor them to be creditable. against the accused. spread that birurden out a litt bit. it was saying the person who's on trial is the accused and not the accuser. it is interesting, she talks about the idea of taking on all of this sort of abuse in the social media space and public space. and in the end, that remained, right? >> she took on a great deal of reputational damage in taking these claim ls. i think that goes against by something we have been told by l of people, accusers are seeking fame and though this is

paintings in jeffrey epstein's house, one of them a picture of bill clinton wearing a dress that monica lewinsky like brothers. >> jesse: the royal family, they are just like us. and we might start seeing a lot more of them over in the states. meghan markle is all fired up about roe v. wade being overturned. a lot of people are saying she may run for president. watch your back, joe biden. she is a woman with a lot of cash who is not named hillary clinton. a dance floor brawl involving about 60 people broke out on a carnival cruise just before docking here in new york city. fox news correspondent bill melugin has the story. >> well, this brawl took place on the cruise magic tuesday morning after making stops in the bahamas and turks and caicos, it was headed back to manhattan, and that is when around 5:00 a.m. a massive fight took over the dance floor and involving around 60 people. security on the ship got involved, but it got so out of control that to the coast guard had to escort the ship back to new york where police were waiting for it to dock. and we are now learning what may have started t

testimony is discussed not only on the street, but also in the press, the former white house intern monica lewinsky , the connection with which bill clinton almost cost the presidency, delivered her verdict in the case. depp vs. hurd is guilty of everything, and what is happening according to her we are so accustomed to the cynicism of social networks that we see a lawsuit not as a tragedy, but as a car accident, we abandon critical thinking and replace it with cheap thrills. such scattered consumption does not allow us to understand, for real, instead, we experience only fears, indignation and excitement of the feelings of the participants in the process, far from positive, both claim that this court ruined their lives in order to lose as a result of the fact that ms. heard brought these charges against you accusations no less about these accusations instantly started talking all over the world, they claimed that i was supposedly alcoholics. drug addicts beat women for me it was all over as soon as these rumors began to spread. i lost right away. i will live with this for the rest of my life. now,

. >> the monica lewinsky matter. >> i want you to listen to me, i will say this again.he search for hidden chemical and biological weapons and already know of hundreds of sites that will be investigated. our coalition will stay until our work is done. we will leave behind a free iraq >> we've had scandals come and go. i've never seen such chaos. i've never seen a president less capable than what we went through with the trump white house. >> watergate was a time in united states history, when we saw, legitimately, for the first time, a president make a determination that he is above the law. what it really did is, it gave a roadmap to donald trump, in terms of how to destroy our democracy in one fell swoop. >> donald trump is richard nixon on steroids and stilts. all the norms that were established post-watergate, he just ignored. >> the nixon administration accepted certain norms. violated them but it accepted them. it violated the constitution but did not destroy it. with the donald trump, the constitution is just another piece of paper standing in his way. >> preserv

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even monica lewinsky with the case in "vanity fair" calling it courtroom porn and saying we are all guilty it. >> it is incredible how the media ecosystem has changed just since 2016, right? people are talking about this being one of the first tiktok celebrity trials, which is significant. i'm sure there will be questions raised about how that jury was able to stay truly isolated from any information about this case for six weeks, given, you know, how much of the media zone was flooded with independent social media campaigns. and fundamentally, something has not changed, which is that for a while it seemed as though the me too movement had undermined the idea of the perfect victim, that somebody had to be unassailable in so many ways in order for them to be credible against the accused, right? it sort of spread that burden out a little bit. that's what i think fundamentally, the believe women mantra or slogan was about. it's saying that the person who is on trial is the accused, not the accuser. and it's interesting that at the end of heard's op-ed, the one that's in question here, she tal

turns out we didn't find whitewater but we did find monica lewinsky. they are building a case of willful blindness, which could be obstruction of a proceeding. if he's using a false pretense, a lie, to collect money from people, that could also be a charge of fire fraud. we may have seen an expansion of liability here. >> it also doesn't go to mindset. that's just following the numbers, following the number, they would say, during watergate. >> i think the same mindset that would be a support for any of these other election-based crimes would be the same mindset used as evidence in a fraud claim. what comes out to me is i thought we heard crystal clear today what i thought is the essence of willful blindness. that is a theory of liability of knowledge of fraud and that was when william barr said he showed no indication of any interest in what the actual facts are. that's is the definition of willful blindness. >> i've seen and heard from a lot of people who said today was better than they thought it would be. the first hearing got impressive viewership

i think it turns it into what i think monica lewinsky described as court porn this week, and i thinkly, the way that the people involved in the case were kind of ripped to pieces, particularly amber heard on social media, i don't think that's edifying either. but it shouldn't really be that we turn guest you can violence cases into a form of entertainment for the maas masses. and i think that carries huge alarm bells going forward. howard: that's a great point. finally, you've been covering queen elizabeth's 70th jubilee. this is a huge event in the u.k. she seems like a lovely woman, has always carried herself with such great dignity, but you've been critical of the royal family, especially meghan markle. perhaps you can explain to us commoners why this has struck such a chord in the u.k. >> he's -- she's not only the oldest-ever monarch a, but she's now the longest reigning monarch of any kind on planet earth, so she's a very special woman. and i think that she shows the world with all the things which i would argue, for example, some of the younger, lesser royals like meghan and h

like, i only exist with bangs on like, you know, it's only happening that way for me playing monica lewinskyely oblivious to everything turns out everyone in my life was lying to me. just literally every single person in my life was lying to me >> seth: so bon reached out to your family? >> yes >> seth: yeah. >> and it was magical. so she sent me, she was like, "i think you need a break why don't you go to the beach for the day? so i went with my mom and my brother and my best friend, ana, to the beach and then she was like, "after, why don't we all meet up at my parents house and we'll do something outside, and why don't we all get dressed up and it'll be really fun. i was like, "get dressed up? like, "it's saturday." [ laughter ] like i, you know, i work all day i have to wear hair. i'm like, "no. and they're like, "let's get dressed up." and i was like, "okay, this is weird. so we go to the beach and my parents house is like about 50 minutes, an hour from where we were at the beach and my mom went, i keep trying to get her in the car because we're going to be late and she's like, "i-i-i t

marks on monica lewinsky's blue dress stained bill clinton's reputation, they even tried to impeach himection with the practice, but this was more of an excuse. now in mainstream public us life movement. mi tu and allegations of harassment. for which, by the way, hollywood producer harvey weinstein was convicted after a scandal with an assistant, which only half of americans believed by revelation, biden managed to get away with it. but from the shower with his daughter, will he be able to pedophilia - this is, in general, such a thing, which, uh, it's not about political predilections, there are republican democrats. it's basically the kind of crime, uh, that's condemned by the vast majority of americans. all this, of course, will affect, uh, the results of the elections in coming in november and then, maybe you're talking to the press, again there will be a new sex scandal on the agenda. more to bring down biden's already failed rating , his activities are approved by only 39% of americans with such support in the elections in november it is not surprising to lose control of congress,

i'm talking while they were remembering the story with monica lewinsky, they were remembering the storyith his mistresses. paula jones jennifer laurus prevented him from conquering youth. youth, recall finance fraud potential whiteter scandal. yes, with there uh, real estate corrupt at the clinton level as well. then the second time at the level of governors of the mayor of cities. there are all sorts of snakes there. it works there. they retire in an hour at the presidential level does not work at the level of governors there was such a governor in kalina who and there was a flood of emergency in the state and suddenly. it turned out that he could not speak to the press to say anything and you started looking for it turned out that for a week to his mistress in argentina and left there. this is a normal story, that is, nothing of the kind is happening, it gives out a certain appendage, but the main problems of biden, as already mentioned here. these are other problems. the first is the economy, which in the united states, uh, the state of the economy is deteriorating every day, and uh,

testimony is discussed not only on the street, but also in the press, the former white house intern monica lewinskyhe connection with which almost cost bill clinton the presidency delivered its verdict in the case. depp vs. heard is guilty, everyone, but what is happening in her opinion is, and we are so accustomed to the cynicism of social networks that we don't see a lawsuit as a tragedy, but like a car accident, we forgo critical thinking and replace it with cheap thrills. such scattered consumption does not allow us to understand, for real, instead, we experience only fears, outrage and excitement of the feelings of the participants in the process, far from positive, both claim that this court ruined their lives, what you lost as a result of what ms. heard brought against you these accusations are no less about these accusations instantly talking all over the world claimed that supposedly alcohol. drug addicts beat women for me it was all over as soon as these rumors began to spread. i lost right away. i will live with this for the rest of my life. now, when all this is happening, i cannot buil

testimony is discussed not only on the street, but also in the press by the former white house intern monica lewinsky, with whom was not worth the presidency bill clinton delivered her verdict in the case of dep v. heard guilty, everyone, but what is happening in her opinion is carrying, and pornography we are so accustomed to the cynicism of social networks that we consider the trial not as a tragedy but as a car accident we refuse critical thinking and replace it with cheap thrills. such scattered consumption does not allow us to understand, for real, instead, we experience only fears, outrage and arousal of feelings of participants in the process far from positively both claim that this trial ruined their lives, what you lost as a result of the fact that ms. heward brought these charges against you, and no less about these charges, they instantly started talking all over the world, they claimed that they were allegedly alcohol. drug addicts beat women for me it was all over as soon as these rumors began to spread. i lost right away. i will live with this for the rest of my life. when all this happ