she says facebook, monika bickert says, will _ bickert?nika bickert says, will not change - bickert? she says facebook, monika bickert says, will not change on - bickert says, will not change on this set is forced to change. it was interesting that monika bickert almost agreed with her. and congress seems to know an awful lot more now about what these algorithms are than how they were. about what these algorithms are than how they were-— how they were. christian, here's the thin . how they were. christian, here's the thing- frances _ how they were. christian, here's the thing. frances haugen _ how they were. christian, here's the thing. frances haugen is _ how they were. christian, here's the l thing. frances haugen is courageous. she is authoritative. she is utterly convincing. in contrast to what monika bickert said, the documents she has released were created by the domain experts inside facebook, this is facebook looking at its own problems, coming to horrific conclusions, presenting these conclusions, presenting these conclusions to m

that was monika bickert _ a material impact.. - bring in evan greer, the director of the digital rights organisation fight for the future and is live for us in boston, massachusetts. thank you for coming on the programme.— you for coming on the programme. you for coming on the rouramme. . ., ., programme. thanks for having me. programme. thanks for having me- what _ programme. thanks for having me. what did _ programme. thanks for having me. what did you _ programme. thanks for having me. what did you make - programme. thanks for having me. what did you make of- programme. thanks for having me. what did you make of the| me. what did you make of the evidence given _ me. what did you make of the evidence given by _ me. what did you make of the evidence given by the - evidence given by the whistleblower today? i evidence given by the whistleblower today? i think what was — whistleblower today? i think what was really _ whistleblower today? i think what was really productive l what was really productive about today's hearing is that

emily: monika bickert, vice president of content policy at facebook.ppreciate you taking the time to debate. coming up, it has been a rough 24 hours for facebook, not just because of frances haugen's testimony, but a massive outage that took facebook sites off the internet for hours. still, facebook shares surged today. we dig into why. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> do you believe they are actually going to discontinue instagram kids or just waiting for the dust to settle? >> i would be sincerely surprised if they do not continue working on instagram kids. i would be amazed if a year from now we don't have this conversation again. >> why? >> facebook understands that if they want to continue to grow, they have to find new users. they have to make sure that the next generation is just as engaged with instagram as the current one. the way they will do that is by making sure children establish habits before they have good self-regulation. by hooking kids. emily: that was facebook whistleblower frances haugen talking about the likelihood the social network will

this is something that monika bickert told me they would be open to having a conversation about.at's not a no, not a yes, keach. >> there were two interesting things on this topic that came up in the hearing. one, she said one possible regulation would be to change section 230, that part of the law that gives broad immunity to social media companies to make them responsible for the effects of their algorithm. so even if you didn't get inside the black box to see the algorithm, the companies would be responsible for the algorithm, and the other she suggested is there needs to be some kind of oversight entity that congress has that can ask basic questions of facebook such as, i don't know, what are the most popular pieces of content on your platform and why? what pieces of the algorithm, what signals in the algorithm are making those things most popular, which is information we just don't have now. we have information about what's the most engaged with content on the platform, but not really what has the broadest reach. can felt like that suggestion showed us how little we know abo

. >> reporter: monika bickert is a facebook vice president. does the buck stop with you, or does the buck stop with mark zuckerberg? >> everybody who is working on these issues at facebook, starting with mark, but continuing down to anybody on these safety teams, cares about these issues. >> reporter: tonight, facebook is pushing back at haugen, saying she was not involved with company decision making and called the tens of thousands of pages of documents she turned over stolen. >> we are doing the research exactly because we care about safety. if one teen on instagram is having a bad experience, we need to do better. >> if you were a member of this panel, would you believe what facebook is saying? >> facebook has not earned our right to just have blind trust in them. >> reporter: this was that rare hearing where you had near-unanimous consent, republicans and democrats alike, that there needed to be additional regulation of companies lieb facebook, senators saying to each other it's time to get to work. now, facebook says it welcomes dcialg f

that was monika bickert there.hington post�* technical report says this will be damaging to the platform and it has a ready been compared to other historical hearings. this looks bad _ other historical hearings. this looks bad for _ other historical hearings. ti 3 looks bad for facebook. they were comparing it to the tobacco hearings, in 1980 fork, the egos of tobacco companies testified before congress and he also said he did not believe whether that was addictive and it became infamous, saying that he did not believe nicotine was addictive and it led to damaging regulations on the tobacco industry. there are parallels. instagram, a facebook property, stands accused of harming the mental health of teen girls, cigarettes were obviously accused of harming the physical use of users. and this hearing was based on research that came out of facebook, that they did not choose to share, it was leaked, so there were parallels to the cigarette companies allegedly covering up their own research on the harms of the products.

. >> reporter: monika bickert is a facebook vice president.buck stop with you or does the buck stop with mark zuckerberg? >> everybody who is working at on these issues at facebook, starting with mark but continuing down to anybody on these safety teams cares about these issues. >> reporter: tonight facebook is pushing back at haugen, saying she was not involved with company decision making and calls the tens of thousands of pages of documents she turned over stolen. >> yes doing the research exactly because we care about safety. if one teen on instagram is having a bad experience, we need to do better. >> if you were a member of this panel, would you believe what facebook is saying? >> facebook has not earned our right to have blind trust in them. >> reporter: this was that rare hearing where you had near unanimous consent, republicans and democrats alike that there needed to be additional regulation of companies like facebook. senators saying to each other it's time to get to work. now facebook says it welcomes additional federal oversight.

reacting to haugen's evidence was facebook�*s vice president of content policy, monika bickert.sking these hard questions. facebook has said it's postponed a controversial project to create instagram for kids. but it's likely that the social network will face even more scrutiny and greater regulation in the us and further abroad. republicans and democrats don't agree on much, but taking action on facebook is one thing that has broad support. james clayton, bbc news. do you remember dolly the sheep? she was the first cloned mammal to be grown from an adult cell. since then, genetics have continued to develop and a shropshire laboratory has successfully cloned a champion racehorse. rebecca wood reports. as a showjumper, arko iii was outstanding — the horse that brought nick skelton out of retirement — shown here competing at the athens olympics. it's great to have a horse like this, you know? you get one of these horses a lifetime. when he died last year, despite having fathered lots of other successful horses like adonis here, his owners decided his genetic line was too good to l

let's hear a little more from facebook�*s vice president of content policy, monika bickert, who was in lead to positive engagement that we reduce things like click bait, sensationalist content and we actually publish on our site a list of the types of content like that that we actively demote. and that's in addition to what we do to try to combat misinformation on our site. we work with more than 80 independent fact checking organisations around the world to identify content on our site that is false and to reduce its distribution and the people know that it's false. when she is talking about facebook�*s instagram, which facebook owns, she says your own research described instagram as an addict�*s narrative so that kids on instagram said this makes me unhappy but i don't have the ability to control my use of it. so in other words children using instagram end up being addicted to it in quite a dangerous way. that is your own research. is that true? that is not an accurate characterisation of our research but first i want to just if the size there is only one reason that a company would

here's a response to today's testimony from facebook�*s vice president of content policy monika bickerto the bbc a little earlier. the algorithm, it's a fancy word that people use — but basically what it is is how do we prioritise content that people will see when they go on their facebook news feed? and let me be really clear, people can always opt out of that algorithm — they can choose to just see the content in reverse chronological order. but what the algorithm does is it says, what is the most relevant content? we want to make sure that we are prioritising content that will lead to positive engagement, but we reduce things like click bait, sensationalist content, and we actually publish on our site a list of the types of content like that that we actively demote. lawrence lessig is a professor at harvard law school, and part of ms haugen�*s legal counsel. thank you for being with us. can we talk about the facebook papers? how much of that evidence is there still to come? is there still more to it? how would you characterise it? to be clear, all of the evidence has been handed to t

joining me now is monika bickert, facebook�*s vice president of content policy.'re the — indictment. that is not true at all. you're the first _ indictment. that is not true at all. you're the first company - indictment. that is not true at all. you're the first company to - you're the first company to published stats about how much hate speech _ published stats about how much hate speech is _ published stats about how much hate speech is on service. this is how much _ speech is on service. this is how much art — speech is on service. this is how much art service is missing. we see the prevalence of hate speech on facebook— the prevalence of hate speech on facebook is less than one fifth of a %. facebook is less than one fifth of a % that— facebook is less than one fifth of a % that is— facebook is less than one fifth of a %. that is less than 0.05%. that's a result— %. that is less than 0.05%. that's a result of— %. that is less than 0.05%. that's a result of the — %. that is less than 0.05%. that's a result of the progress we have made in finding _ result of th

now, monika bickert, i know monika. i've met with monika. right thing and keep bad stuff off her platform but the key question is, will the c suite at facebook back her up? and what i know from having worked very closely with these companies is there's three major dilemmas that are keeping them from doing the right thing. one is that voices like monika's often get suppressed internally when it comes to a debate about profit and public protection. two, a lot of these companies are scared to work with each other, to coordinate to suppress these threats because they're worried about sharing information about their proprietary technologies, and that's a big problem, because bad guys don't just use one platform. they jump from platform to platform, and that communication is really anemic right now between those companies. it could be vastly stronger on these issues. and then finally, all of them are substandard when it comes to working with the federal government and having a realtime communication about public safety threat. that communication i

reacting to haugen�*s evidence was facebook�*s vice president of content policy, monika bickert.act that we are asking these hard questions. facebook has said it's postponed a controversial project to create instagram for kids. but it's likely that the social network will face even more scrutiny and greater regulation in the us and further abroad. republicans and democrats don't agree on much, but taking action on facebook is one thing that has broad support. james clayton, bbc news. wales is the latest country to introduce covid passports for nightclubs and events. anyone going to a nightclub or other large events in wales will need a covid pass from next week, to show they have been fully vaccinated or recently tested negative. the measures were voted in by members of the welsh assembly. it was thought the motion wouldn't go through, but a surprise technical hitch meant the opposition failed to block it. tomos morgan has more. in the hour or so before yesterday's vote, plaid cymru pulled out of supporting the welsh labour government's proposals — meaning that the measure was du

reacting to haugen's evidence was facebook�*s vice president of content policy, monika bickert.ecovering well after it found itself in a sticky situation while out hunting in devon. this happened. the unfortunate bird is believed to have chased a mouse into a bucket of molasses on a farm but then promptly got stuck. look at this! he's now recovering after being saved, fed and kept warm. chased the mouse into a bucket! yes. why would you do that? everything is ok. the owl is fine. i can see from yourface you are ok. the owl is fine. i can see from your face you are worried. i am more worried about what happened to the mouse. we didn't hear that story. we will try and find out, all right. yesterday, a real deluge of rain. parts of south—east england had more than a month's worth in 24—hour. today will be drier and brighter. some rain in the forecast. we will start with a fair bit of cloud in the east. patchy rain and gusty winds. a lot of dry weather and a fair bit of sunshine around as well. out towards the best the cloud will be building and there will be a few showers in the so