>>no moral equivalency. up a 13% of the population, but a disproportionate nu freedom and equity have been a paster tension throughout american history. there's those who say it's about freedom and some say it's about equality. when we sees the disparity between people in that society. we have to step back and say why is there such a disparity between the quality of education afforded persons of color and those in the urban context. why is there a ray racial iced system. and why is there 96 lack of opportunity for certain segments of the society? we have a problem here that we have not addressed effectively in american society. >>> for you is it amoral issue? >> absolutely. >> where the morality. >> because it transends the rules and regulations that are established within a society. dr. king would not have been effective in bringing the ci and effecting change in american society if he did not appeal to the moral conscience of the society. racism was legal. segregation was legal, jim crow was legal it was p

we're talking about morality and ethics.e'll be right we have a terrific team here at newschannel8, because they have to put up with me. i can be difficult sometimes. why i have to pray, i have to remind myself that the spirit speaks to me and so we always have to work on ourselves. that's the hardest thing sometimes. we like to work on everybody else, but we never work on anybody else. i'm willing to admit i have shortcomings, i can cause a little chaos, but sometimes that's just the way it is. but it's not like that every day. that's the good news. >> we heard it here on the armstrong williams show. >> there's a wonderful crew here. they do a fantastic job. >> i agree. >> i have to give them the love and the respect. i want them to know that publicly. >> pastor, two things you were about to say. >> so often we start when we tak about faith, spirituality, we talk with what we believe. let's start with what we know. all right? >> we know that we've had at least 6,000 years of civilizatin we've had egypt, we've had babylon, w

moral foundation. and that moral foundation doesn't just happen.that spiritual formation, that moral formation, that sound understanding of what matters in life, what it means to be human thing, what our obligations to others are, the market will not produce that. nor will the between theve parties that for u either with a system of government president for you. it will be produced by the family. the institutions of civil society of religion, neighborhood, civic association that assist the family in its role as the basic transmitter of values, character to each new generation. we need to protect those institutions of civil society because beginning with the family they really are the primordial department of health, education and welfare and they k do more than just a for the kids and get them fed and off to school and so forth they form them as the kinds of human being they will be. that's what i mean by being transmitters of values. look, the economy and the markev system and the republican form of government both depend on h something that neith

a lot of moral agency from a lot of lace were moral discussions used to take place. and instead you see really congress members as beggars and as not, as moral agents themselves but really serving to a handful of wealthy people. that really degrades our politics in lots of ways as well. >> thank you all. [applause] thank you all for being here, for your wisdom. it's been a delight to listen to you and i look forward to seeing you later on. [applause] >> let me join on and thank you everyone. this is really insightful come some amazing, wonderful comments and insights, and really i daresay inspiring. this is the kind of thing that models what we need to do if we are to truly recover, and that moral center that at least is out there. it is, as robert kennedy said, perhaps a tiny ripple of hope. and what you, please join me in thanking our panelists and our moderator. [applause] and thank you all for your support, for being here tonight, for supporting the center on religion and culture. have a great holiday. we will be back again and then new year, april 15, we will pi

leach is a moral leader. the sanitation workers in memphis were moral leaders.ork study student, a pell grant kid and one of my summer jobs was working on the back of a trash truck. and you know, as i prepared for today, i found myself reading more and more about the memphis sanitation workers. taylor rogers was one of those workers, and in telling his story, the working conditions that they described were just nightmarish and you go to the memphis museum and you see the trash truck and you see the injustice and the indignity and so, mr. taylor, taylor rogers and mr. leach and others did the only thing they could do, they marched. they organized, they declared, i am a man. and i will take license and say i am a woman as well, and they marched past the national guards people and after dr. king's assassination they did not quit. they organized. the community rallied around them and two weeks later, the city council finally agreed to give the workers a better deal. and as he told his story, taylor rogers said, and i quote, alls we wanted was some decency and some d

a moral leader. the sanitation workers in moral leaders.k study student, a pell grant kid. of my summer jobs was working on the back of a trash truck. prepared for as i today, i found myself reading more and more about the memphis sanitation workers. taylor rogers was one of those workers. his story, the working conditions that they were just nightmarish. you go to the memphis museum and trash truck and you see the injustice and the indignity. so, mr. taylor rogers and mr. leach and others did the could do. they they marched. they organized. man."eclared "i am a and i will take license and say "i am a woman as well." they marched past the national guards people. and after dr. king's did notation, they quit. they organized. the community rallied around them. later, the city council finally agreed to give deal.rkers a better and as he told his story, taylor i quote, allsnd we wanted was some decency and dignity. decency and dignity. no demand more basic than that? the promise of decency and dignity is what inspired the workers in memphis and

i like to call it restoring moral dissent, moral dreams, and moral to fibrillation. amy: we will speak with reverend william barber as well as jonathanal minister hartgrove, who as a young man, worked for the pro-segregationist senator strom thurmond. today he is organizing with reverend barber in what they call fusion politics. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in a major attack against immigrant communities in the united states, the trump administration has announced it is ending the temporary protected status for up to 250,000 salvadorans who have been living in the united states since 2001. the temporary protected status, known as tps, had given the salvadorans legal permission to live and work in the united states. it was enacted in 2001 after a devastating pair of earthquakes hit el salvador. the announcement sparked immediate protests at the white house and a news conference in new york city. this is salvadoran tps recipient urania reyes. >> we are begging to our president trum

and we do not lower our moral standard for therirs.is why it is our honor today that we are blessed with the presence of the standardbearer of dr. king, the namesake of dr. king. a year ago we marched here in washington. martin said to me, in the spirit of our father, i must meet and appeal to president trump. folks, you know, a lot of will not stand -- will not understand. he said, they will understand my father. we must make the moral appeal even if it goes nowhere, and he did. i. do not think he will do anything" he said, we are not responsible for how they respond, we are responsible for making the appeal. a year later martin was right to make the appeal. i was right that donald trump was not going to do nothing. [laughter] but he has always tried to bring up a better in society, and that is what martin luther king was about. and that is what we must be about. aswe become as bitter and hateful as those that we fight, they have already won. so on king day we are going to stand up to trump without becoming like him. we will not call

preening all the time oh it's moral you know your races tell me how it will go to work how much is it going to cost just how does that change reality how is it part of a larger immigration because i'm for immigration reform this is the stuff i want to know but i never learned any of it go ahead ron yeah and all right let's put the moral argument aside because you know we definitely do not have a consensus there i think it's a morally disgusting idea but that's a moral judgment call so let's look at it economically we don't know exactly how much it's going to cost we don't even know there's a lot of numbers that have been thrown out there furthermore donald trump wants to privatized the entire thing so this would just be given to contractors and let's be honest this is a big this is a big billionaires club that none of us are in jesse your not and i'm not in a peter you're not in it rob you're not in it we are not in it so this obviously there are no trump having the pockets of his friends. and that's all we would get out of this and it wouldn't be all right well then well then i guess

what what ron brings up a really good point let's forget about the moral issue here because i'm against the wall but i've done my research and i did it years ago when i did my due diligence all you have to do is google inspector general border wall and you will see the billions and billions and billions of money that would not only spent but wasted we have tried to build walls we've tried to put up motion detectors we've tried to use satellites every single thing the government has tried to implement under democrat and republican presidencies have failed because it's been proven untenable and unbuildable but we have a presidential candidate there who nothing and cared nothing about this and how do the budget was going to build it it's. it's not ridiculous it's right there google the inspector general's report we you can see the money that's been spent on it and that's what should be discussed how are we going to build it how i'm going to be here is what is the road construction i don't have. it why don't you can if you believe a wall don't work won't work it is a row and also if you bel

idea but that's a moral judgment call so let's look at it economically we don't know exactly how much it's going to cost we don't even know there's a lot of numbers that have been thrown out there furthermore donald trump wants to privatized the entire thing so this would just be given to contractors and let's be honest this is a big this is a big billionaires club that none of us are in jesse your not and i'm not in it peter you're not in it rob you're not in it we are not in it so this obviously donald trump had in the pockets of his friends. and that's all we would get out of this and it wouldn't be all right well then well then i guess you're in the club and maybe you're for the wall because you have a financial incentive to be so ok but this is proving i wanted to hang on hang on a little of the more on this yes go right ahead because this is what i'm trying to get at gentlemen is to have a. guy should i discussion about policy ok go ahead rob. what what's ron brings up a really good point let's forget about the moral issue here because i'm against the wall but i've done my resea

>> the morale for folks in cbp officers remains dangerously low. i think it is really related to the staffing issues that i raised where you have individuals who are working 16-hour day, days on end. i just heard a story this morning, in fact, that in one pay period we had a cbp officer work 73 -- hear my words, 73 hours of overtime. where you have that happening and when it happens days on end, week after week the impact on that individual in terms of that person's health, the impact on that family is and i might add, the impact on potential for maintaining high security in the ports for our country, it is a major problem. i would also offer this, in terms of the health. one of the things that concerns me over the last, probably year and a half, two years. i have heard and i get these calls late at night or whenever it happens that there has been a dramatic increase in the number of suicides among cbp officers. there has been, i've heard from the agency a dramatic increase in the number of substance abuse cases, a dramatic increase in the number o

>> last year, morale was probably about as low as i could get. so with the new administration showing the support they are showing, it's helped but it can only do so much. morale is hit or miss. there's some places that have good days and bad days. i think part of the issue -- part of the improvement has been we have an administration that clearly supports what we do and that's been a great improvement. but there's still issues within the agency that will take awhile for us to get -- the agency is starting to pay more attention to morale but we are still seeing issues in the field where there are managers who feel it's just not their job to be worried about that. >> miss pepperdine? >> i notice in our sector morale is definitely at an all time low. i don't believe it has anything to do with the administration. i believe it's been more of the pay reform that was spoken about earlier. many agents, even though we had to settle for a more stable pay system which was overall better for all of us, a lot of people are upset they lost pay and are doing t

you either have moral clarity or you don't. thee fact that president trump can say so much and 140 or 280 characters, and some i put all the moral cripples in the news media can't, i think it is a

a moral responsibility. and this week your group, next gen america also sent out a platform on sexual harassment and said that elected officials and candidates, if they don't embrace this platform, they're not morally fit to be in government. so it raises the question are you at risk of being sort of a moral scold here? >> well, i think that there is a point here about right and wrong, and i think that's the question honestly in 2018, scott. i think that people are getting way, way too far away from a basic question about american values, and that is actually what i do think is at question here. this is a question about the soul of america. this is not about a 35 or a 37% marginal tax rate. this is a question about whether we're safe. it's a question about our people who are not rich, white, american males, fully citizens. these are the basic questions for americans. i think if you ask me do i think this is a moral question, that we are having a moral attack on the basic fabric of american society, i think d

this is one of the great moral issues of our time and it is an issue that must be dealt with now as part of the budget negotiations. it cannot be kicked down the road any longer. we must pass the dream act now as part of the current budget negotiations. mr. president, in the last six years since the daca program was established, these young people, again people who were brought to this country as infants in many cases, were finally able to breathe al sigh of relief -- breathe a sigh of relief. for the first time in their lives, they could walk the streets of this country without fear, without worrying about being arrested, without worrying about being deported. think about what it means to live in this country every single day knowing that at any moment you could be arrested or deported. and what daca finally did is give these 800,000 young people a legal status and a protection that they could go out and work, they could go to school, and they can serve in the united states military without fear. mr. president, as we all know tragically, on september 5, 2017, president trump announced t

a moral authority that this country is taking generations to build that helps us bring a light to the world and helps us economically in every way as the world has always looked up to america and our ideals but unfortunately that moral authority is declining under president trump leadership in declining rapidly. it may have reached the lord yesterday when president trump in print one and tweet offered a poor representation of the united states to the world and more than that president trump's foreign policy by tweet is doing serious damage to the country. we have serious issues to address a broad and president trump seems happy withho module boasts and belligerent threats that get us nowhere and if any one of us were in a classroom with someone who behaves like president trump had, we'd ostracize them and we'd straighten them out. we don't hear a peep from the vast majority of our republican colleagues about this, so many of whom are [inaudible]. we have serious issues to adaddress a broad. president trump foreign policy by tweet will not advance our the world. it will not reassure ou

moral means. one of the great debates of history has been over the whole question of ends and means. all the way back f from the das of plato's dialologues coming on up through machiavelli and others, there have been those individuals who argued that the end justifies the means. but in a real sense, the nonviolent philosophy comes along and says that the end is pre-existent in theeans. the means represent the ideal in the making and the end in process. and so that in the long run of history, immoral means cannot bring about moral ends. somehow man must come to the point that he sees the necessity of having ends and means cohering, so to speak. and this is one of the things that is basic in the nonviolent philosophy at its best. it gives one a way and a method of struggle which says that you can seek to secure moral ends through moral means. it also says that it is possible to struggle against an evil, unjust system, with all your might and with all your heart, and even hate that unjust system, but

. >> emotion and morality, sun sue said in a war, a battle, the side that is persevered to be a moral advantage will eventually win. in 1862, lincoln gave a state of union address, up until this time conflict between north and south was couched in terms of states rights and lofty issues, but lincoln said no, it is about slavery, when he did that, it ended any hopes for confederacy, great britain of the on verge of recognizing confederacy, they could not after he said it was have legislative assembly of schiffry. -- slavery. trish: the moment. >> north korea, this is say moral fight, brought back images of 1942, roosevelt with his state of the union, talked about how jdz an japanese did the sure attack, he said, we have to fight with one hand tied behind our back, because we are an honor able people. but he was the taking moral high ground, whoever has the moral high ground, whether the issue is immigration -- >> left says the opposite, michael hopkins saying, he doesn't have moral upperhand on this, he is tying immigration to crime. >> i say, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, we're tal

>> if i were to describe my morality, i would describe it in the same way. my ethics and morality are not predicated on what i think god does or does not do. >> with my fellow human beings and to my fellow creations. my morality are predicated on this idea that i have certain responsibilities to creation and to my fellow human beings, responsibilities that come from the idea that i do see the divine in them but i don't necessarily need to see that in order to understand that there are proper moral ethical ways in the web world that lesson of suffering, that lesson of violence and all that is a good thing in and of itself. >> i do think that what's fascinating about the dalai lama the way that he has been talking recently, perhaps for another time and i won't get too deep about it is that he is preparing the world, buddhists, not just those into that but those around the world for essentially the end of that religion. >> and it's an extraordinarily thing to watch.h. those of you who are familiar ho with what i'm talking about, the dalai lama just past that he

that is a moral travesty. in the midst of one of the deadliest flu epidemics in a generation, it is utter negligence. american families deserve better. they deserve a government that doesn't use the health of our children as a bargaining chip. they may have temporarily funded chip, but if they have no access to community health centers, it means nothing. families deserve a republican majority who won't spend months trying to sell them out to health insurance companies that want to go back to the days when some people were just too sick to cover. american families deserve a health system, whether our neighborhoods are urban, suburban, or rural. they provide the most care to the sickest among us. families also deserve a true budget that addresses the opioid epidemic. american families deserve better than this joke of a c.r. that lets republicans continue their dangerous and immoral business as usual. in a few weeks, we will be right back here again. republicans control the white house, the senate, in the house,

a moral authority that this country has taken generations to build.hat helps us bring a light to the world and helps us economically in every other way as the world has always looked up to america and our ideals. but, unfortunately, that moral authority is declining under president trump's leadership, and declining rapidly. it may have reached a low point yesterday when president trump in tweet after tweet after tweet offered a very poor representation of the united states to the world. more than that, president trump's foreign policy by tweet is doing serious damage to the country. where we have serious issues to address abroad, president trump seems happy with macho boosts and belligerent threats that get us nowhere. if any one of us were in a classroom that behaved like president trump has, we would call him out .we don't hear a peep from our republican colleagues, so many of whom are hawks. we have serious issues to address abroad. president trump's foreign policy by tweet will not advance our standing in the world. it will not reassure our allies

america spiritual and moral spirits in a 2015 and a spiritual and moral context. we will be back. ♪ ♪ >>> and welcome back to the broadcast. i want to welcome debbie who is all the way from the bahamas who is joining us and jason from the washington examiner. pastor, let me come back to you on one final point before we get our panelist involved in the conversation. so the pope is -- wants to rewrite, yield not to temptation in the bible, because he feels it's very -- in his way it's confusing. and it's the word of jesus. i didn't know that rewrite or revisit what jesus has written, but is this part of the thing that you talked in the past of biblical illiteracy. what is it. >> no, i don't think that it's biblical ill ter rathe ill tertk that his motivation is to make it easier to understand. the character of this pope has been consistently trying to appeal to the younger generation and those that have been removed from the catholic church and to bring them back into the fold. so the whole idea and it's lead us not into temptation which is what the catholics call t

they make their peace with his lack of morality to advance what they want.ing to leave a mark on our country for a while. >> kimberly, i had a videwer wh i trade emails with say i didn't vote for him to be my kids role model, i am my kids role model. i elected him to -- >> we got the trump that we are seeing and what's being revealed before the election is exactly the trump that he laid himself bare to be during the election and somehow that makes it okay. it but i still think that it's a major problem, not just for evangelicals, who have to somehow find their moral base, but for republicans who are giving cover to all of this, at some point or another they will have to answer for it. >> the stormy daniels, we have to admit that the affair isn't going to hurt the president, per se, where i think he's vulnerable is on the legal front, where this news in the "wall street journal," that his attorney michael cohen had a dummy corporation who made payoffs. a porn star can blackmail the president, then suddenly that puts this in mueller's lane a little bit, does i

he is going to moralize all of these bad and represent huxtable the black bourgeoisie. that is how that is played out politics or specs ability in criminal matters in the black community. a positive. >> thank you jody. our time has flown by so i want give a couple of minutes to mike to close out and you will oath be here to speak in more detail. thank you. >> thank you and it's so good to see all of you today. over the 10 years we have worked together i saw times where we ebbed and flowed and there were some struggling and challenging times but i oftentimes think it's probably good to prepare us for what is to be the future. they think we are in for some real challenging future now with the way politics are going in with and with the way society in general is going in the way the evolution of this thread is evolving but always remember that this is our strength. you are our strength. all of the communities throughout her company our strength and never let anybody isolate or silo and a community because this is your right to speak out. as much as possible i would and gau

[laughter] but you talked about moral wrestling.s is a man who has done moral wrestling since his teenage years growing up in michigan, he asked hard questions about segregation and discrimination. he got involved with the black church. he has written 12 books which is almost as hard as coaching for 11 years. in -- and your latest book is "america's original sin: racism, white privilege and the bridge to the new america." i have my copy. you should get yours. what is the bridge to the new america when a lot of people civilly while a lot of people want to make america great again? >> when i realize you're going to have is the chapel, i was -- i was very grateful because i realized this was the right place for this conversation. it is clear to me that we are not going to get to where we need by just talking politics. we have to talk about theology. we've got to go deeper. what's at stake is the soul of the nation. and the integrity of faith. doing arian and i were racial justice week at marquette. he asked how many white students had

so he went with reagan on issues that were not moral or religious. for example like the nuclear weapons policies and star wars but that should be a faithful part of the republican party and then they began to vote but actually some of the biggest leaders in the south were preachers who were ahead of other people turning the south republican. so gradually something like one third of the republican party led by the christian right. so inevitably it is politicized. there were a lot of evangelicals trying to get out of that and to believe that but then that they completely disappeared because we were political people and it was the era of the press and the media so what happened eventually is a lot of liberals or people became disgusted by this. because they forgot they existed until election time and they knew nothing about them so that is where i came in. [laughter] >> how did abortion become the central organizing issue? or do you agree it was? >> i do. it is fascinating because evangelicals in the 60s and 70s were very much were for therapeutic abort

it requires restraint, intelligence, sound judgment and a respect for the moral authority that comes with the awesome responsibility of being the world's sole remaining superpower. over the course of the past year, president trump, unfortunately, has squandered and squandered moral authority that comes with the presidency of the united states. a moral authority that this country has taken generations to build, that helps us bring a light to the world, , and helpss economically in every other way as the world has always looked up to america and our ideals. but, unfortunately, that moral authority is declining under president trump's leadership and declining rapidly. it may have reached the low point yesterday when president trump in tweet after tweet after tweet offered a very poor representation of the united states to the world. more than that, president trump's foreign-policy by tweet is doing serious damage to the country. where we have serious issues to address a broad, president trump seems happy with macho boasts and belligerent threats that get us nowhere. if anyone of us were

we talk about morale we need to talk about appropriations for additional staff. we were looking at trying to make a career that cbp were attractive, i think it's difficult to try to recruit folks at the same time there hearing the potential for federal employees getting another pay freeze. that is a nonstarter. >> we've spoken on the topic and have included several incentiv incentives. as a former government employee i recognize the needs of the difficulties that you go through. i appreciate you coming here to educate new willingness to take our colleagues and staff and show them the real world example of what you have to go through every day. will have to continue to divide an educator colleagues so we can make better decisions to support the important efforts. it's a pleasure to recognize my colleague from the great state of texas. >> thank you. >> have a few more questions before we break. in five minutes our leadership from both parties will go to the white house to talk about many issues that were talked about here. i think you mentioned the single most impo

so i don't think it has to do anything like -- >> it was not on moral issues like this.e, me and other clergy may disagree, but the things they condemn clinton on and others insist on is the exact same thing they pardon the president on. i'm not talking about things i say, i may say there's nothing wrong with certain things, but things they condemn is what is being raised here, you jeeugene. >> and the perfect example is robertson who said bill clinton turned this reminiscent of the 1960s. he's gone on to say he's proud of trump. and the evangelicals overwhelmingly support him. it is important to realize that it is white evangelicals that overwhelmingly support the president. the majority of black, brown and people of the presidency, not primarily because of economical issues but moral issues. >> the majority of -- you've been on the trump train, even rung the bell going choo choo a couple of times. you're there. do you see anything wrong with the president's behavior? let's take it out of the -- with him calling african countries s-holes and haiti s-hole and fine people

work with them is not to achieve any moral effects. host: jay, silver spring, independents, for go ahead. caller: hi, i am so glad that on this someone morning, i'm sorry, good talk on everyone; to what is going on in the world. i am 75 years old. in a few more days. i agree with what the guest has far, everything he said, i would like to say one thing, him you please have explain why some segment ontainment about obama giving money to iran? let him do hisnd answer. host: sure. we will hangup and do that. early happy birthday to you. anthony cordesman. guest: a lot of this is failure happened.and what he nuclear agreement with iran basically led to our essentially iran had oney that given us that was no gift. recognized death. iran to nly allowed have the ability to export oil easily and to increase the the export t from that was not an american gift, it was the lifting of sanctions. itshe process, iran gave up nuclear reactor capability to plutonim, put uranium tight ing under international inspection. it had to give up highly uranium

morality. >> he is a republican. >> the left wants to impose their morality by putting in government officials -- that's what the left and christianity is about. >> thank you very much. show is over. anderson is next. >>> thanks for joining us, the president will leave the white house and board air force 1 and on to davos, switzerland. the president spoke with reporters for about 15 minutes. his feelings about fbi and yes, the russia investigation. here is what he said about the prospect of speaking to special counsel robert mueller. >> there is no collusion whatsoever. >> do you have a date set? >> two or three weeks but i would love to do it. subject to my attorneys. >> would you do it under oath? >> did hillary do it under oath? >> i have no idea. >> do you not have an idea? i will give you an idea. she didn't do it under oath. listen, i would. and you know she didn't do it under oath. if you didn't know about hillary, then you are not much of a reporter. >> higher standard, you would do it under oath? >> i would do it under oath. >> do you think robert mueller is going to be fair

obligation and the senate is in the spotlight. . . . .ur protecting the dreamers again is our moral obligation in the spotlight. they sympathize with the dreamers and all of their eyes are on us. we need to get the job done. it raises wages in those jobs that already we have evidence that c corporations are not hurting their tax cuts and jobs for the middle class. when at&t said they had bonuses you know what they did at the samey time, they announced plans to fire more than a thousand workers starting early this year despite the tax cut. macy's announced that it would be cutting 5,000 jobs despite thee tax bill. kimberly-clark plans to cut up to 5500 close about ten plants and the savings from the tax bill gave them the flexibility to make these reductions. president trump going to claim credit for that one? a lot of nice announcements but the condition of the american worker is getting no better and often times worse. meanwhile our most companies doing, so many of them with these big tax breaks they got they are announcing stock buybacks that raises their stock and doesn't help an