morel stayed silent. today asked why did you stay silent? in essence he said i should have spoken up. >> does it bother you morel is working for a think tank with ties to hillary clinton? does it bother you? >> everybody has got to eechlt idea mike morel should find his next place of employment in a consulting firm i think is more than just passing strange. the guy wants to be the next director of central intelligence under the hillary clinton presidency. >> he did them a big favor by tampering down the link. it's just a classic democrat thing saying thank you for your service then a republican trying to skin him alive. >> democrats are fed up with the whole benghazi investigation. and republicans are infuriated but what they think is a stone wall. if there is a headline, he said waits a coordinate add tack not a spontaneous demonstration. so by admitting that he die anied it's a deliberate political exception but morel said the white house wanted riots added to talking points and said state wanted references dealeeded to an al yeaheda linke

morell for being here. thank you for your service tour nation and i want to thank everyone. >> fireworks on kill as m more, acting deputy -- he was the deputy director and acting director of the cua at the time of the peninsul benghazi attacke testified in front of that committee. you heard representative michelle bachmann, republican from minnesota giving a summation of what republicans believe, man believe is the problem with what happened that night, the talking points were adjusted to reflect the administration's claim and in fact the obama campaign claim that al qaeda was on the run. if you would like to continue to watch the hearings, they're streaming live on fox news and in a moment we'll speak with peter king in new york, a man who clashed with the witness during this morning testimony and he'll be our guest. that's coming up. these days, everything your business does is done on the internet. and tomorrow you'll do even more. that's what comcast business was built for. slow dsl from the phone compa

morel stayed silent. today asked why did you stay silent? in essence he said i should have spoken up. >> does it bother you morel is working for a think tank with ties to hillary clinton? does it bother you? >> everybody has got to eechlt idea mike morel should find his next place of employment in a consulting firm i think is more than just passing strange. the guy wants to be the next director of central intelligence under the hillary clinton presidency. >> he did them a big favor by tampering down the link. it's just a classic democrat thing saying thank you for your service then a republican trying to skin him alive. >> democrats are fed up with the whole benghazi investigation. and republicans are infuriated but what they think is a stone wall. if there is a headline, he said waits a coordinate add tack not a spontaneous demonstration. so by admitting that he die anied it's a deliberate political exception but morel said the white house wanted riots added to talking points and said state wanted references dealeeded to an al yeaheda linke

former cia boss, mike morell on the hot seat on benghazi. let's bring in florida republican tom rooney who silts on the house intelligence committee. congressman thank you for join us. >> thank you. >> what's the reaction to the testimony that we saw today? >> you know, it's more of the same. i don't think we're never r ever going to get the answers from a guy like morell from a guy on the cia. this that was a maneuver to avoid al qaeda's attack on a u.s. interest right before the election which would have changed the narrative to al qaeda is on the run, and no, they're still dangerous, oh, we had four americans killed because we weren't protecting them. i don't know that mike morell really, as you heard from the sound bites before from our chairman asking him. did you coordinator with the white house, i don't know if we'll be able to prove or disprove whether or not that's true, but it's clear to me from all of the e-mails that we've read and all of the documents that politics was at play at every level from the state department to the whit

basically morell took credit for changing them. michele bachmann said the state department and white house didn't do it because they had you do it for them. >> she's the one that tried to link it to those changes being from the white house. he didn't go there or answer those questions. one of the other things he said was this quote. i believe it was protest. i also believe it was a terrorist attack. i don't believe those things were mutually exclusive. what do you think about that? >> well, he was just trying to explain what his analysis was. he said it was not political at all. there was no indication from anyone on the ground there was a protest of any kind of that's where the disconnect is. you'll start to see and hear testimony. questioning, classed q&a, heard some of what he said in some of those questions. i think it's not the end of this despite most of the democrats said there are too many hearings to begin with. >> another fox news alert, supreme court striking down limits on overall campaign contributions. brett, what doe

morell can please be seated.r your 30 plus years in the intelligence services. you have had a highly decorated and certainly distinguished career for those 30 years. it is important you have the opportunity to provide testimony today in front of the public. with that i would recognize you for your opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, and, mr. chairman and members of the committee, it's on. mr. chairman and members of the committee, thank you very much for the invitation to be here today. as the chairman knows, when he asked me a few weeks ago to testify today on benghazi, my response was a quick and decisive yes. and as he also knows i specifically asked that this be an open hearing. why was i so decisive and why did i want this to be an open hearing? because much has been said and many allegations have been made about the handling of benghazi by the cia and its leadership, including me. much of this discussion has been inaccurate and the congress and the american people deserve to know th

morell said the cia never told her that a video caused a protest.did she get the information about a video? she also said that the con salute was strongly substantially and significantly secured. who told her that? that's not in the talking points. here is what i would say to speaker boehner there is a conflict of interest all staring us in the face. the lead investigator for the republican house intel committee is now in business with mike morell. the lead investigator of the house republican intelligence committee is also in business with hillary clinton's gate keeper. i think this justifies a new process and a new look. you're losing a lot of information by doing this in a segmented fashion. if you had had the station chief at this hearing when the station chief auto school -- at this hearing. it would have made mike morell's testimony look differently. >> i have got to go or we are going to get cut off. >> i'm sorry. >> that's all right. nice to see you sir. >> we need a select committee. >> and now it's time to show you what we are watching. pu

morell third committee testimony he will give. two of them happened in classified session the tway should to protect classified information and the individuals involved. this is that first open hearing for the highest highest official involved in the benghazi event and i think it's important to set the station but that question has to be answered. it absolutely has to be answered. >> there is a chance he will take the fifth. if he lies to you. >> i hope he doesn't do that he told us that he is going to come and be truthful i have encouraged them to show up and be get the truth out and put the thing behind us and country by determining the truth. the folks on the ground the cite people were telling the state's people hey you need to change your configuration here it's really dangerous. they asked for help and didn't get it all of that leads up to the day of 9/11. so, certainly decisions were made in the state department that i at least argue are complies politic in the murder of those four individuals at least negligence was involv

we had not only mike morell breaking susan rice in that instance. the kind of things -- >> who still doj investigation that's open. still has a department of justice investigation. >>> there are huge unanswered questions about every aspect of this thing. if you look at what morell testified to, he said in effect that the talking points weren't discussed at this very important september 15th deputies committee involving the white house. every email that we've seen leading up to that meeting said the talking points will be discussed, finalized and resolved at that meeting. there's a huge gap there and i think we need to get answers to the question. >> ab, you covered the hill. senator mccain said he was surprised by chairman rogers retirement and we heard that he sent out a fundraising letter one week before announcing that retirement. what do you think the real story is there. >> i think the real story is what mike rogers is saying it just surprised everybody. all of his colleagues in the house and senate, democrat and republican, everybody is stunne

and he is going to say well then i asked mike morell and mike morell said well, there could have beend there could have been that, mr. president. it seems to me you are never going to nail down a sole villain here. >> the headline from today, bill is morell took the fall for hillary clinton and barack obama. that's what this is. it can't be lost on people that his current job is working for four individuals who started a consulting company. three of whom are major hillary supporters. >> he pointed that out, yes. absolutely. >> one philip reigns is the gate keeper for hillary clinton. this is the narrative that if hillary clinton decides to run for president in 2016, this will be the narrative. and they will blame it on some bureaucrats at langley here in america who came up with an inclusion that it was protester. so they will point to some underlings, rather than they had knowledge. even the state department during the attack, bill, put out two cables that said they -- number one, they knew it was terrorism and, number two, they knew that it could be ansar al al sharia al qaeda group

mike morell * defending his actions.ng allegations that he or the agency bowed to political pressure to change the white house's talking points. here is one ex change between the chair mike roarnlings and morell. >> with all of our training and experience and gut reaction did you believe that was the right decision? >> i believed what my analysts said that there was a protest. i also believed it to be a terrorist attack. we never saw those two things as mutually exclusive. i believed both of those at the same time. bill: one of the americans killed was sean smith. his uncle is with me out of charlotte, north carolina. thank you for coming back and talking with us. you watched the entire hearing yesterday. what did you take away from it? >> i thought in essence mr. morell threw the analysts under the bus which was cowardly but that's to be expected. i wasn't told until this point that the cia was so concerned about the sensitivity of the state department. come on. you know. the conversation got moved forward a bit. but i'

morell. i yield back. >> thank you mr. chairman. there have been suggestions from the other side that we continue to process this. it's been 19 months. i would remind everyone there's an investigation across the capitol that has been going on for six years with tens of millions of dollars that continues to this day. it's perfectly important matter not only to those lost lives but this is about the trust and the cia. it's about public perception of cia's role when it provides information to this committee. this is an agency that we all come to rely on and the american people need to be able to rely on it too and so i want to ask you why did this go to the interagency review process at all? we asked the cia for information on multiple occasions. probably too much to folks annoyance. where is it asking from recreation but why is ben rhodes makkah political appointee involved at all? >> this is a good question. it's a very good question. first of all it was very important that we coordinated the

the deputy director, mike morell decides to take it out. that strikes me as somebody who is look out for the political interests of the white house. he takes out the word islamic, he hides from the congress the fact that the cia removed al qaeda. and he himself, takes out the reference to the warnings state department, it looks to me like is he doing the political work of the white house and trying to ingratiot himself with 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> karl, thank you. don't forget when fox is pushing to get more information, we got banned from the cia briefing that they did. that was a little bit funny. but anyway, whatever. thank you, karl. >> you bet. >> coming up a too mail reporter says she was bullied at a feminist conference. >> we know. >> what did you say? >> you guys aren't wanted here. >> we are not wanted here. >> looks like exclusive of everybody. >> you heard right. bullied for being conservative. that reporter is here to tell you her story next. fox is tracking dangerous weather in texas. test test too mail reporter was bulli

morell. you, mr. i really appreciate your testimony. given your three decades of service to our nation, always working to protect our security and never in a partisan role or spirit. i believe what you are telling us today and your account of what happened. i appreciate that the first point that you made was that you wanted to honor the heroes who lost their lives. we all have to keep that in mind. i fully supported the accountability review board's investigation of the incident. and findingsns that they had on how we could have done this more effectively. committee,lligence we have held hearings and review documents. i said as the ranking member with chairman was moreland on .he subcommittee on oversight throughout all of this, i have that anyonedence lied or intentionally misled the american people about the attack. nor that anyone, including you, mr. morell, inappropriately edited the talking points with this committee has asked for. we all agree that mistakes were made. there were some th

acting director michael morell dismissed the report.consulting group alongside hillary clinton aides and mike rodgers chief of staff will publicly testify for the first time today. what can he expect? lieutenant colonel tony shaffer who was with the c.i.a. joins us live now. good morning. the c.i.a. chief from libya finally appeared from washington yesterday behind closed doors and said, hey, wait a minute, i told mike morell, the deputy director of the c.i.a., i saidç it wasn't a protest. >> all the leadership, and what's most notable is the clip you just ran of susan rice, within less than 24 hours of that clip being aired, the chief of station came back again and said for the third time i'm telling you there is no protest. so it was very clear, very clear in the field. let me be very clear, the chief of station is the most senior intelligence officer in the country. for your audience to understand and understand this clearly, what he says is gospel. nobody goes against him. i've had to fight with chief of station over stuff before.

mike morel, we'll see what comes out. it looks like and smells like he cooked the books for political reasons. we'll so what the ultimate judgment is. that concerns me as a former inteleigence professional. one thing you don't want to do to this country, is turn intelligence in politics and polit sideways. it the president has to hear the truth and by the way, except when there is an urgent need to dope the secret. the president has to tell the truth to the american people. it locks like intelligence was politicalizeda on the highest levels of the cia and they lied to the american people knowingly. >> why is it a conflict of interest? on one hand they are supposed to provide information to the white house. are they not supposed to have a roll in the political roll out, afterwards, is that what you are saying? no, they should never play politics and obviously they have to meet the president's intelligence requirements and he asks the questions and handle it. >> but the point is to give him authority. tell him what you beli

morell. i really appreciate your testimony and given two or three decades of service to our nation always working to protect our security and never in a partisan role or spirit. i believe what you are telling us today and your account of what happened and i appreciate that the first you made was that you wanted to honor the heroes who lost their lives and we all have to keep that in mind. i fully supported the accountability review boards investigation of the incident, the conclusions and findings that they had on how we could have done this more effectively. we on the intelligence community have reviewed a tremendous number of documents -- held several interviews on this as well. throughout all of this i have not seen any evidence that anyone lied or intentionally misled the american people about the attack nor that anyone including you mr. morell and appropriately edited the talking points which this committee has asked for. we all agree that mistakes were made, there were some things that

morell. with all your years in the c.i.a., who is the one person that you would count on the most to get your information from anything that happened in country where he was the station chief? >> i'm sorry. could you ask the question again? >> who would you go to to get the most accurate information if you wanted to find out about an incident that happened in country? >> i would -- if i'm looking for the c.i.a.'s judgment about what happened in a particular case, i would go to my analysts. >> not to people that were on the ground? >> the chief of station's view is very important. but it is not determinative. >> so the analyst that is not there, he is the most important? >> sir, there are two sides to the central intelligence agency. there is an operations side and there is an analytic side that makes analytic judgments. >> ok. this analyst, was he the gentleman that was at the roundtable with director petraeus on the 11th? >> the senior that i spoke about who did the first draft of the talkin

good to have you with us, jack. >> good to be here, lou. >> and let's start with mike morell and his testimony i found just absolutely flummoxing. this is a man who had basically denied much of what he had acknowledged and admitted to today, and at the same time, seemingly, he was very artful in not giving up anything new. your thoughts? >> well, i was very disappointed to the discover that he had clearly information from the field, multiple sources from the field, primary sources who actu actually saw what took place and others who were reporting on what took place, and chose the discount those in favor of a langley analyst. this analyst that he is making reference to unnamed, obviously, is well thought of at langley and obviously well thought of at the committee he is briefing today, at least he alleged that. and beside that i am stunned that he chose to go with the analyst's judgment on this the all of the way to the weekend when finally he could not ignore it anymore. and all of that said, mike morell and while he has a great reputation in the government spent most of his years a

mike morell made eight different changes to the talk points. martha, every single one of the changes he made, going from an attack to demonstration, from terrorism to extremist, every one of those changes was calculated to cast this administration in a more favorable light. >> it's interesting because he said he took the word "islamic" out because he didn't want to further fan the flames that he felt were simmering across that entire area. and we did see the outrage and protests that happened in cairo. and there was that belief that maybe this was what occurred here. but as you pointed out clearly in the first 24 hours they knew this was a very orchestrated and militarily sophisticated attack. so why would he feel he needed to remove that word from that testimony given the fact that they knew at that point that that's exactly what it was? >> well, mike morell gave two explanations, both of which are patently absurd. number one, he said that he didn't want to spawn more violence. if we just apologize enough, particularly to countries that don't

greg hicks was on that telephone call that morell testified about.hen he heard what the official version was, he had a reaction that i can't say on camera. >> wow. how do you go about getting this select committee? >> you need authorization from -- you need the permission from the leadership of the house, which is the speaker. >> why hasn't this happened thus far, do you think? >> well, i'm not psychic, so i can't really tell you. there have been a couple of suggestions, one of which is that it could be a political decision in the sense that republicans feel they've got a good issue to run on, which is obamacare and they don't want to confuse things. but if that's the case, that's a terribly cynical comment on the country. it says essentially we can't walk and chew gum at the same time. we can't concentrate on two things. >> so does that play into the delay in finding answers, then, in other parts of this situation? for example, the only person who's ever really been arrested for any of this is the guy who made that videotape. he was picked up with c

mike morell was on that call. what was said.cks was on that call the cia station chief was on that call. what did they discuss in did they tell mike morell that there had been no protests? >> that's a good question. that's it for the panel. abbreviated because of the breaking news. a shooting at fort hood, texas. we have new information on the other side of the break. ♪ ♪ ♪ humans. even when we cross our "ts" and dot our "i's", we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because making mistakes is only human, and so are we. we also offer new car replacement, so if you total your new car, we'll give you the money for a new one. call liberty mutual insurance at... and ask us all about our auto features, like guaranteed repairs, where if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, the repairs are guaranteed for life. so call... to talk with an insurance expert about every

boss mike morell faces the house intelligence committee on the terror attacks in benghazi.ng he ignored reports from the benghazi station chief in the days after the attacks. morell also down played his role in editingç those controversial talking points and he denies outside influence. take a listen to what he said about leaving out the word "islamic." >> and the last thing i wanted to do was to do anything to further inflame those passions and so that's why i took the word islamic out. it was a misjudgment. the second reason i took it out is because what other kind of extremists are there in libya? >> according to one operator watching the hearing -- one reporter that should be -- morell doesn't have any idea what happened that night and didn't understand why he speculated during the hearing saying, quote, he wouldn't have to speculate if he talked to the people in libya that night. >>> caught onç camera, the amazing moment when a pilot in brazil landed a plane on only its back wheels. look at this. look closely here. the plane's nose never touches down in the landing.

morell. the committee has heard from mr. morell on these attacks several times before, but in closed session. his testimonyve in open session so the american people can hear directly from one of the most senior officials involved in the leadup in response to those attacks. interested in mr. morell's role in developing the talking points that shaped inaccuratetration's narrative about the attackses. we expect he will explain for how this controversy developed. i understand you'll do some of that in your opening statement as well. i want to first acknowledge the courageous american heros on the benghazi, both those who lost their lives, ambassador chris stevens, and information sean smith, and security officers greg doherty and tyrone woods. livesose who risked their to save their colleagues. each of these brave americans lines on the front defending americans' interest so the rest of us could sleep safely at night. we lost some of the best among us on that terrible night. who of the brave offi

and the former cia director michael morell recently testified that it was rice who made the connection. >> whafles your reaction when you saw her explanation about what happened? >> when she talked about the video, my reaction was that's not something that the analysts have attributed this attack to. >> and there are new allegations that other documents are being delayed, blocked or unnecessarily redacted. >> now the state department is trying to retroactively go back and say oh, no, these should be classified which prohibits us and limits us to be able to show them to the american people. >> the whitehouse press corps skepticism came to a head. >> why did it take a court case for you to release this -- >> john, i can say it again and again and i know you can keep asking again and again, this do you mean was not about benghazi. >> it was your prep for the sunday show. >> it was not her only prep, john. she relied fon her answers on benghazi on the documents prepared by the cia as did members of congress. >> two congressional sources tell fox news that house speaker john boehner wants t

in november 2012, senators say they blamed morell for significant changes in the talking points.hen they later learned morell was responsible for 50% of the talk talking points. >> if you are a witness, someone spoken to by federal investigators or senator as part of an investigation, have you to be very careful. even if it doesn't have formal trappings, lights and microphone, under oath, you still could be subject to the perjury trap. >> he welcomes the opportunity to testify tomorrow. this will be his third appearance before the house intelligence committee on more than any other committee combined, gretchen. >> that will be very interesting. thank you so much. >>> a pickup truck loses control on a busy roadway. look slamming into a charter bus. emergency crews working to save folks trapped inside. we'll bring you the latest details. >>> plus smoking has gone back decades as you can see in this historic ad. what the pentagon wants to do now could mean lights out. >>> chick-fil-a starting to fry its rival stealing chicken crowd to top kfc with only half the locations. that bring

bill: did morell share the assessment with the white house and the state department? >> not clear and i think those are key questions. i think the cia made a mistake in getting involved in drafting these talking points to begin with. the questioning should show that morell was trying to please his masters in the white house. bill: in the washington times story and other places apparently an intelligence official said morell informed the white house. if you can prove that, that would be a strong indictment. >> whether it's morell or somebody else, the reality of what happened on september 11 came in conflict with the administration's ideology, that the war on terror is over, al qaeda is on the run and bin laden is dead. that's what the members of congress have to focus on. bill: but the cia drafted these talking points for what, members of the administration to talk about it? does it usually happen that way? >> absolutely not. the reports are the c, eric rolled. if you want to avoid it being politicized. remember the criticisms of the bush administration. if you want t

our next guess says morell wasn't candid in his answers. that is lieutenant cornell bill cowen.hy, why do you believe he's not began did? >> i think mike morrell represents the very worst of this environment in washington, d.c. when it comes to a revolving door. where we see people, high level administration go out, leave the administration and work somewhere that has relationships with other companies do government contract work and stay there in the hopes that they'll be selected to come back to a higher level position p their candidate, in this case hilary clinton, winces in presidency. i believe mike morrell would like to be the director of central intelligence under hilary or the director of national intelligence under hilary and as a result, he's very careful about what he says, particularly when it comes to saying anything that might criticize hilary or the state department. >> he refused to claim a portion and there are editorials and i want to share this that takes on the republicans and critics of mike morrell. here is at the article in the washington post. perhaps the

morell, for coming. with all your years of the cia, who is the one person you account on the most to get your information from anything that happened in a country where he was the station chief? >> address the question again? >> who did you go to to get the most accurate information if you're going to find out about an incident that happened in the country? >> if i were looking for the cia's judgment about what happened in a particular case, i would go to the analysts. >> that two people on the ground. >> the cheapest station's view is very important, but not determinative. >> said the analyst is not there. >> there were two sides to the central intelligence agency. as an operation site that collects agents in an analytic side that makes analytic judgment. >> okay. this analyst, was he the gentleman that was that the brand stable with director petraeus on the 13th? >> senior analyst i spoke about who did the first draft on the talking points, the director of our office of terrorism analysis is a one-man

the "a-team" on who mike morell was trying to protect lou: joining us is the "a team."n williams pulitzer prize-winning journalist judith miller. and co-host of "red eye." let's turn to obamacare. they pushed it over the top 7.one. all laelia. >>. >> the majority of the press reports that number not even uncritically. the question never just take the government's word for anything? when yadministration that is all about your plan you can keep your plan of this issue specifically how do you trust them? i don't get it. lou: i cannot find an instance where they have not been caught lying. you say that should not be a profound edifice? >> also why don't they have accurate data how many people have paid? how hard is it to get that data? lou: good questions. >> how hard was it to get a website that people could sign on to? lou: you are turning on them. >> give them the benefit of the dow we will see how many are paying premiums it is more or less than the national average for clients such a broken record we cannot make judgments and tell all numbers are in with experience. >>

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morell. i just wanted to clarify to make sure that i understood what you said concord that whether it was the information for the people on the ground the station chief for instance we have information that a cable since september 12 by the cia station chief reported eyewitness confirmed the participation of islamic militants and made clear they facilities had come under terrorist attack. that was clearly sent by the station chief. we know the rso on the ground the chief of days the political officers the grs officers, again the ddd chief all of them on the ground say the same thing but i thought i heard you say mr. morell that the information taken from eyewitnesses on the ground wasn't given to your analysts, but they looked at the press reports, that the intelligence products signet humid. >> maam what you have to understand mayhem is that the information did not come all at one time. the information came in pieces over time and when the analysts wrote their piece on the 12th that was publ

tonight, mike morell, former deputy director of the cia, on what happened in benghazi and how the cia responded. >> so i was traveling overseas. i was in amman, jordan. my staff actually woke me up in the middle of the night to tell me about what was happening in benghazi. >> charlie: what did they say? they woke me up the first time to tell me about the attack on the state department complex and, by the time they woke me up, they told me about the attack. they told me our officers from our base in benghazi had gone to the state department facility to help rescue the state department folks and that they brought them back to our compound where there was a second attack that our officers repulsed and then they told me everything was quiet. at that point, i went back to bed, only to be woken up a few hours later by my staff to be told that our facility was under attack for a second time, this time with much heavier weapons to include mortars. >> charlie: mike morell for the hour, next. >> there's a saying around here: you stand behind what you say. around here, we don't make excuses, we

lou: morell for his part has not always been consistent in telling his story. you remember in november, 2012, he blamed the fbi for key changes in the talking points, that blamed the nonic isetan protests for -- ex it is tan protests for the attack and morell for record works for seeks. as a national -- cbs as a national security analyst where the news president is brother of white house staffer be ben rhod. >> a surge in al qaeda affiliates in middle east and north africa, now pose a threat to the united states, report finds there has been a 40% increase and terrorist attack, worldwide, between 2012, and 2013. the state department singled out iran, reiterating it is a major state sponsor of terrorism that continues to defy debands to prove its nuclear ambitions are peaceful. all this as an increasing number of americans say they don't' america to be the world's police. or nation builders. this according to a new "wall street journal" nbc news poll, 47% said we should reduce our level of international engagement. 19% said we should be more active. 30% said our

morel misled them. david, we got your microphone working now.ed the fbi for the key changes in the talking points, apparently that all changed in the testimony of a woke ago. what are we to believe, dave? >> the democrats are being dishonest about how the process works. we are led to believe it is the fault of a youtube video or talking points were changed along the way. and the inconsistency is why we need a hearing and select committees. the democrats are trying to deny it is a political process, because it is it the administration's policy that the secretary of state hillary clinton carried out and two issues here. covert activities, and those briefed in the super eight. and then to the fact of derelection of duty. and it is either a select committee or not. and the democrats will say it is politics. it is politics. politics and policy is what drives how this plays out. >> the talking points are the issue here. and you want to figure out what was told to the american people and what was changed or altered and if you have testimony about the f

, mike morell said nothing.the talking points and took out certain parts that had the c.i.a. who had put up red flag, security is an issue and follow-up is an issue and he went and took it out to make the state department look better and he also initially blamed the f.b.i that's why senator lindsey graham flat out yesterday said he lied. so this is a huge deal that's not going away. people want to say there is too much of a focus. but how can you take your eyes off this ball if there is so much still wrong? >> sure. exactly. and there are a number of u.s. senators who are on the republican side who say we need a select committee with a professional investigator -- not congressman who just had five minutes to ask questions. they need the select committee. you asked mike rogers about that and the first thing he said was, well that, would be expensive. so when we're look for answers, we still need them. >> particularly the cost of human life so we understand what was lost there might be worth the investment to put

first you have people saying the cia did the talking points then mike morel says he did -- seems to me like jay carney has a new line of defense. when he's going to get peppered with questions about benghazi, that's to read the promos from the sunday talk shows, right? explain that. >> well, i saw an e-mail exchange with somebody at the white house that had a quote from our show on september 11th. they're going back to stuff in the early days when there was not a lot of information on the press side. what we were getting was from administration officials. they were telling us that it was all related to these protests and the video. what came out is that they knew through their internal chain that this attack was a terrorist attack that was well organized from the very beginning. greg hicks testified on the hill that he called hillary clinton that night and said this was a terrorist attack and this was not just something that sprouted up. and hillary clinton put out a release at 10:00 p.m. on 9/11 that said -- >> she did. >> the video -- >> she did. one other quick thing. judicial watch

so what we saw is mike morell will take the fall for the state department.lary clinton and say, look, i changed the talking points. >> reporter: this morning house democrats charging that republicans are taking benghazi and turning into a costly witch-hunt. >> what they're trying to do is throw up as much mud against the wall and hope something sticks. >> we had enough of the false statements. enough of the partisanship and enough of trying to use this terrible national security incident for political gain. >> reporter: in a recent statement to fox news the consulting group, beacon global strategies said, it's a quote, non-partisan endeavor and is dedicated to acting in truly bipartisan manner. we not only adhere to all governing ethics rules and laws we strive to go above and beyond those requirements. review of the website shows predominantly democrats including long time clint an aid described by "the new york times" as mrs. clinton's principle gatekeeper, jon. jon: what are the chances, getting a select committee? do you have any way to assess that? >> r

michael morell testified it was rice who linked video to the benghazi attack, morell said that videoas not part of the cia, analysis. how do you square that up? how can that be squared up? >> well, i don't see how you can, it will take to us continue to persist too find out wha happened there, is say void in knowing what actually happened that night, what was said, then what tran powered. it is -- transpireed it amazing that suzanne rice is later elevateed to national security advise oar, if be if we have soe in this position is sends that message out, we have issues to deal with. lou: you have a lot of issues to deal with, with this administration, american people want and deserve, let me under line deserve the truth from any administration. the congress has been i think relentless in the search for that truth for various committees. but at the same time uunsuccessfully, we have watched a stone wall of 18 months since that benghazi attack across a array of scandals whether irs targets or "fast and furious" or benghazi. the others as well. this dang has successfully -- administration

top intelligence officer in libya who reported there were no protests the former cia deputy mike morelltold lawmakers i gave more consideration to the intelligence analysts were assessing at the headquarters here in the states saying the ground report was not as compelling and was based on lose evidence. >> iffism looking for the cia judgment about what happened in a particular case i would go to my analyst not to people on the ground. >> susan rice rehearsed days after the attack rice down-played his roll in editing that. specifically why he took the word islamic out of the bullet points even saying the state department at the end was still unhappy with his contributions. >> the last thing i wanted to do was to do anything to further inflame those passions. that's why i took the word islamic out. it was a judgment. the second reason ill took it out is what other kind of extremists are there in libya? >> according adam housley, f morell doesn't have anything to do with what happened that night he doesn't know why he was speculating about that night. if he talked to the people in libya t

. >> it was just what morell said last month, when he heard that, he said that's not what our analyst said, right? >> john, you are wrong. if you look at that document, that document that we're talking about today was about the overall environment in the muslim world. >> so kg, a couple of things he does today, carney, it's about a broader situation which they don't believe. then he brings up promos from other shows. >> it's embarrassing day for him. i don't know, it's terrifying to watch and we do know for a fact that he was in on the white house communication in the emails because it was sent to the whole communication staff, so i mean please stop, it's so embarrassing. my god, tender your resignation and put something on yours resume to get a job because this is no -- not good for him or the whole administration. >> as a prosecutor, tell me exactly what's in these documents that is so awful? >> my point is would you have seen dana perino go out there and make these kind of false statements despite knowing facts to the contrary to hold someone accountable? >> i don't know if that --