so connects them other dots sort of around this initial story regarding the mossad and any k. and talk a little bit about bigger issues here regarding the u.s. and iran and what you imagine we could be seeing in the coming weeks. well there are a lot of regional proxies the united states could work through to pursue a diplomatic track instead what the united states has done and president obama has done is he's been forced into. one more one and one sanctions regime after another one more the next thing they want to do is sanction the telecommunications industry which we with according to proponents those who are lobbying for these that is in washington cause catastrophic effects on the iranian economy so what they've been forced to do is basically attack and wage economic warfare and terror on the iranian middle and working class sanctions that are doing nothing to stop iran's nuclear program and what and the diplomatic track is the only answer the p five plus one an initiative was about to take place turkey taking the lead right before this assassination inside iran of the sc

with me i have mistaken for him had levy before me hade israeli intelligence agency the mossad mr halevi thank you very much for joining us here on our team a nuclear iran war with iran is there with the option yes there is a third option the third option is a non-nuclear iran with. an agreement an understanding with the iranians that they will not become nuclear and that they will be reintroduced into the family of nations from which they have been virtually expelled in recent months. under terms which will also take into account some of their interests and some of the. how possible is this option i think is very possible because i think the international pressure which is been building up in recent months is beginning to have serious effects inside iran on the economics on the moral side. and i think that the basic interest of the people in charge in iran. is to maintain the position to maintain power do you think you run poses an existential threat to israel or any other state in the region. i am on record as repeatedly saying that i don't think there is such a thing as an existential

intelligence officials meeting people in the cia who are clearly furious about what the israeli mossad is doing confirming that israel is used the marxist is slow islam islamic terror call the peoples and the k the kariya assassinations inside iran acts that secretary of state hillary clinton has sought to distance the united states from so we have a situation where the u.s. is in conflict with israel and at the center of it is this bizarre terror call yet so interesting when you sort of connect the dots here because you know i should say there are people in iran who believe the cia is involved but as a member of the terrorist list here the cia cannot be involved cannot be working with the any case though if you do have you know connecting the dots to israel working with the m.e. kay and the cia doing whatever over here but certainly wanting to maintain that strong relationship with israel it seems there could be some problems i had. absolutely the in the united states. at least on the intelligence community in the united states and the diplomatic corps seems to want nothing to do with

positive card in the hands of israel as far as the mossad is concerned which you define if coming to mission as preventing war or weakening iran in the case that does happen i think that it is the mission of the mossad to do everything in. its capability to make a. threat which has been posed to israel dormant what capabilities does the mossad have when it comes to iran where here again i don't think that it would be useful for me to. the list of capabilities i think leaves the capabilities which every intelligence organization i think it's important to say that we have been involved in what we call a clandestine war for quite some time with iran and what's interesting about this war is of course that both sides have more or less preferred the details of this war the details of various events be not exposed to the public since you retired from the side you have been meeting with the radiance is there a genuine interest among some of the main ians and some israelis to promote peace i mean the rain is in international fora not had private relations or private contacts with iranians the

threat which has been posed to israel dormant what capabilities does the mossad have when it comes to iran where here again i don't think that it would be useful for me to hold lists of capabilities i think needs the capabilities which every intelligence organization and i think it's important to say that we have been involved in what we call a clandestine war for quite some time with iran and what's interesting about this war is of course that both sides have more or less preferred that the details of this war the details of various events be not exposed to the public when you talk about can this kind of war be killing everybody and scientists be accidents out of the ring implants computer viruses is this what you're referring to i'm referring to all range of activities i will not confirm anything which you have just now mentioned but i was serving that there is a long range of activities that have been carried being carried on for a very very long. over a very long period of time and i think that the activity is registered on the other side very very significantly and i would not sa

threat which has been posed to israel dormant what capabilities does the mossad have when it comes toiran where here again i don't think that it would be useful for me to list the whole list of capabilities i think these are the capabilities which every intelligence organization has i think it's important to say that we have been involved in what we call a clandestine war for quite some time with iran and what's interesting about this war is of course that both sides have more or less preferred that the details of this war the details of various events be not exposed to the public since you retired from the side you have been meeting with the reagans is there a genuine interest among some yway indians and some israelis to promote peace i mean the rain is in international fora not had private relations or private contacts with the radians there are many iranians the way i see it who would like the present confrontation between israel and iran to gradually end and create a new situation the likes of which we have in from forty eight to seventy because iran and israel basically do not ha

very pro israel person admitted that she had been meeting this over the weekend with the head of mossad the israeli cia so that betray us all when they talking about the iranian threat well you know why don't they talk to the radiance about a threat you mean so willy you know it's really really really unconscionable the way the americans are being rallied around a new war with iran it's got to stop i want to ask you after the motivation is regime change or who stands to benefit from such a change israel does you know. iran is the sole remaining. superpower were the sole remaining superpower there are regional power in the middle east they have a good sized army navy and so forth now israel doesn't want to have to compete with that and so they resort to all kinds of hyperbole here here's a eretz the relatively progressive history of newspaper saying that president shimon peres said today that iran is not only seeking regional but quote even global hegemony iran wants to be king of the world you know that's hyperbole on steroids we ought to recognize it as that we've got to put it in pers

if i had a need might start it would be most star and i mean mossad i mean the fingerprints are over territory is or attempt at it and mossad state of great all over them israel there is no compunction about two weeks you is well as anybody else if it serves their intention israel makes charities american makes charges but no evidence is provided one thing or earth but a rare chance to gain by renting out an sions when they were so many accusations flowing again just to reiterate no again no evidence substantiate anything including its alleged nuclear weapons program it's entirely all because according to u.s. intelligence as a march two thousand and eleven is no evidence whatever prove it. well for more on the western governments approach towards iran r.t. talked to brian becker a member of the answer is a taste of what's coming next our. u.s. says they're not carrying out regime change but in fact everyone who's watching knows there is the u.s. policy to create pressure on iran carry out overt operate covert operations economic sanctions and now these new sanctions are not really e

want to before we get too far i want to still go back to i know you were talking earlier about the mossad and we thought last weekend in that investigation by n.b.c. news that revealed those killings of iranian nuclear scientists were carried out by israel's mossad along with the help of the iranian dissident group the emmy kay i want to play for a second something that mohammed lara johnny said he's a senior aide to iran's supreme leader ayatollah ali khamenei and i'll get your reaction what about it comes. close allies of both countries like you know very is involved in the tool used to cyclists. and i would assume has an obligation . to push not to do it. like us the united nations with different reason. so what do you think about this he says that you know if the united states knows that israel is carrying this out they have an obligation to take action. oh they absolutely do i mean international law is clear us law is clear if you really should be cherishes if your own newsgroup is saying you really must start astonishing i've ordered. it is absolutely astonishing if the new york tim

>> the one thing that we should set aside is our cia and the mossad, israel, not arguing that they have the case, and even israel said, the leader of the mossad said, even if they had a web, it's not an existential threat to them. >> so you wouldn't ever countenance any preemptive strike? >> no, why would i? that's aggression. we're not supposed to commit aggression. that's left to the dictators. but we now don't do aggression, but what we do is preemptive war. preemptive war is equivalent to that. >> but ahmadinejad has made it quite clear in wiping out israel, if he got the chance. if you were president in the second world war and you've been given knowledge the japanese were planning pearl harbor, you would have preemptively struck, wouldn't you? >> well, let me touch your first subject first. and that is quoting ahmadinejad, because that's a misquote, but 99% of the people in the media would misquote it and everybody in washington believes it. what he actually said on the proper interpretation was that the regime in charge of jerusalem should be removed from the pages of time. he di

new york times magazine" on sunday by an israeli journalist, and he talked to the outgoing head of mossad who thinks that this is not a good idea at this time. why our intelligence people opposed to this? >> they are not sure they can find things to destroy it. the deeper question here is, logically and rationally, if israel attacks iraq, iran will just kind of take it and they will not close the strait of hormuz, because that will bring in the united states and be the beginning of the end. that is assuming that the iranians will be of logically and rationally. -- behave logically and rationally. anybody who buys read history books -- anybody who reads the history book knows that your opponents often behave rationally -- irrationally. if it was just a contained israel strikes iran, iran launched missiles into israel, not great, but the recent the united states opposes this is they fear the fallout. war has a way of unintended consequences, all wars. what is it going to do to the economy of europe, the united states? terrorism. testified just a week that iranians are thinking about operati

. >> reporter: in fact, only days ago, the head of mossad, israel's top spy, secretly briefed congressional leaders and the head of the cia. >> israel does see this possibility as an existential threat to their country. >> obviously, this is a very sensitive issue right now. we're doing a lot with the israelis, working together with them. >> reporter: experts warn that the u.s. is even more vulnerable than israel if iran retaliates or launches a preemptive bomb plot. >> israel is relatively small. getting at israel is hard to do. and it has very formidable defenses for it. america has assets and vulnerabilities around the world. >> reporter: soft u.s. targets like embassies throughout the persian gulf. and 90,000 american troops in afghanistan, next door to iran. still, intelligence officials told the senate today, they don't think iran has taken the final step, deciding to build a bomb. but israel does think iran has crossed that red line. and u.s. officials say if attacked, iran would not hesitate to retaliate against both israel and the u.s. andrea mitchell, nbc news, washington. >>> in

so the mossad director, as you talked about, who was here in town, i think it was all about trying toknow, where are we in the world? what are our relationships? who can you count on and whoic you count on? any level of uncertainty i argue is not a good thing. i think they have crossed that threshold. that's why i think you see this increased rhetoric here. >> when he was in town, the head of the mossad, is it appropriate? did you meet with him? >> he meets a lot of people. this is not something unusual that the chairman of the intelligence committee would meet with the director? >> i take it as a yes. >> it wouldn't be unusual. >> we're leave it at that. do you think the secretary of defense leon panetta is talking openly about this too much? >> i'm still trying to understand the calculus of ratcheting up the rhetoric right now, given that we were trying to have a dialogue with israel to try to at least come to a place to allow these sanctions to work. as a big supporter of these sanctions early on, i did think they could work. at the same time we do have to show some military streng

the new york times magazine" on sunday by an israeli journalist, who talked to an outgoing head of mossad who thinks this is not a good idea. why are the intelligence people opposing this? >> because they are not sure they can find the stuff and they are trying to destroy. the deeper question here -- logically and rationally, if israel attacks iraq, iran will take it and they will not close the strait of hormuz, because closing the strait of hormuz will bring in the united states and be the beginning of the end of iran. but that is assuming that the iranians will be of logically and rationally. anybody who is bent in intelligence or has read a history book knows that your opponents often behave irrationally. israel strikes iran, iran launched missiles into israel -- not great, but ok. the reason the united states opposes this is they fear the fallout. or pass away of unintended consequences -- war has a way of unintended consequences, all wars. they just testified last week that iran is thinking of operating inside the united states. >> the iranian oil is already being cut off. europeans

of this is clear is day and they admitted mossad and the cia as well as some european security services don't like to see nations progress they would like to have control and a monopoly over everything the great a rainy a nation and follows the path of searched. for new technologies it wants to stand firmly on its feet by means of its own strengths and produce its own knowledge they disapprove of this progress and they don't want to see other nations develop themselves the fact that they come over to such people's homes or attempt to murder an educated and broad minded university professor highlights the grave nature of their situation it demonstrates that the us and israel have disgraced themselves in this matter they speak of human rights but at the same time they officially perform terrorist attacks and promote state terrorism expansion. in their slogans we see their idle talk on fighting terrorism their deeds however do not match their words they brought their troops to afghanistan under the pretext of defending human rights and fighting terrorism and drug trafficking and drug reps

if i hadn't made my talk start it would be most startling i mean mossad i mean being a critic so apparent story is that it was a great all of them israel there's no compunction about two weeks you use it well as anybody else if it serves their intention israel makes charities american made charities but no way will just provide one thing earth will return after a game already junior patients will be wrist so many accusations flowing against the return rate no radio no evidence so any theory including its alleged nuclear weapons program is too terribly well because according to u.s. intelligence as a march two thousand and eleven is no evidence whatever prove it well to get more western governments approach towards iran not to talk to brownback a member of the antiwar coalition it's a taste of what's coming up next on. well you says they're not carrying out regime change but in fact everyone who's watching knows that is the u.s. policy to create pressure on iran carry out overt out recalled word operations economic sanctions and now these new sanctions are not really even a like the old sa

official has said israel's intelligence agency mossad trained and financed a terrorist group that carried out a series of assassinations of iranian nuclear scientists four have been killed in bomb attacks over the past two years and the islamic republic has blamed israel and the u.s. for their deaths and a national relations expert the job for shaad says the murders are part of a secret war being waged against iran. the kook war is rather striking because very few people are talking about the assassinations of iranian scientists this is tracking because the un did release a very definite statement the nonaligned movement has released a statement condemning the assassination of the scientists but there's been no word from the atlantic powers condemning this act of terrorism in the streets of tehran and according to my sources scientists in iran are now fearful of going outside conducting the every day of business after a one of the scientists was shot sitting in his car waiting to pick up his daughter from a daycare center that means ordinary activities have become very fine to scientists

if i hadn't made my top suspect it would be most sorry i mean mossad i mean being a creditor over territory or attempted acts and most outspoken critics all over them israel there is no compunction about kill you is well as anybody else it serves their intention israel makes charities american made charges but no evidence is provided one thing earth after game already cations with the wrist so many accusations flowing against iran right now again no evidence substantiate anything including it's always a nuclear weapons program it's entirely equal because according to u.s. intelligence as a march two thousand and eleven is no evidence whatever prove it. well to get more western governments approach towards iran or to talk to brownback a member of the antiwar coalition it's a taste of what's coming up next time. u.s. says they're not carrying out regime change but in fact everyone who's watching knows that is the u.s. policy to create pressure on iran carry out overt operate covert operations economic sanctions and now these new sanctions are not really even a like the old saying they are sam