but it would not be that case up around mosul. and that's why our initial embeds were at camp speicher as we were ready, the ninth armored division and the second ice off brigade for that 100 kilometer assault. thank you. i'm eager to bring the audience into the conversation. great. i see. hands off. if wouldn't mind waiting for the microphone to come to you and then identify yourself and then we'll go from there. let's gentlemen right here with us in the. thanks so much. i'm tom schenker with the project for and national security at gw. michael, congratulations. thanks to all the panelists. questions about intelligence and warning in a region of the world where our record is not very good. michael, in the opening pages, you quote the obama interview with the new yorker, where he says isis's the j.v. . clearly, that proved to be wrong statement. didn't say that the conditions was there. no intelligence on. the rise of isis reaching the commander in chief. was it inadequate? was there great intelligence that he wasn't paying attent

that was the case with the mashki gate in mosul. this is what it once looked like.oint, the largest city in the world. mosul was effectively bulldozed by the islamic state, but from within the ruins, archaeologists have made a remarkable discovery — 2,700—year—old rock carvings preserved in magnificent detail. translation: these are | marble bas relief carvings, showing different scenes, including trees and soldiers in battle, as well as details of the gate. the chiselled artworks show a soldier preparing to fire his bow, as well as intricate vine leaves and flowing palms. the grey stone carvings date back to the rule of king sennacherib, who was in power from 705 to 681 bc. translation: the importance of this gate lies in the fact - that it is the only piece containing completely preserved carvings. iraq was the birthplace of some of the world's earliest cities, and home to some of humanity's first examples of writing. it was feared that the ruthlessness of the islamic state meant that many of iraq's treasures were lost forever. but with discoveries such as this on

and so i was able to go with the peshmerga in mosul in sinjar. i was able to go with the iraqi counterterrorist service. and in in west mosul and i was able to interview general mazloum in syria and also on positive side on the military. well, there was no formal embedding process. i was able to do what they call a battlefield circulation and where you move around the battlefield. but general townsend and people like colonel pat work, who was a key person in the battle for west mosul. so i had that kind of access. but the embedding was with the partner forces. thank you. we mentioned policy secretary flournoy. you obviously, as cliff said, served as undersecretary of defense for policy in the obama administration from 2009 to 2012. and you're the the administration's then decision to withdraw u.s. forces from iraq in 2011 is an important antecedent. i'd say, to the events that michael describes in his book, before i ask michael to walk us through some of those key milestones and decisions from 2014 to 2019, i'm wondering if you be willing to prov

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this case multiple administrations but also on the ground experience in the middle east battles in mosul and sinjar and experience in syria, infused together. one of the things that still striking to me today is there is no pentagon history of this conflict. just hasn't been done. so this is something that that a reincorporation history of the air. there's pieces of it on the army side but no one in the u.s. government did this so i think it's important to get the record and establish it as best i could while the getting was good. >> that's great. thank you. one of the things that struck me about the book and reading it is that you really went from policy grand strategy to strategy cooperation of tactics seamlessly. can you speak to someone about the embedding you did that you discuss in the book of of that, the combatants you embed with an chemo a string the war? >> one of the striking features of this war, unlike the previous, less operation iraqi freedom, the invasion and occupation of iraq is there was extensive and bedding in those conflicts which i took great advantage of and staye

happened in august of 2014 the day after the those old them was taken back on —- the muzzle dm - - mosulut there was a meeting that was brokered by the kurdish authorities whoho are not on good terms but that's a separate story and he met with the general who was then representing the militia and basically he came up t with the concept that could be the partner force that could stop volunteers from joining the isis caliphate and then stopped them in iraq and syria. there is a a basic understanding that was not yet approved in washington there are other suitors who tried to strike his own deal with the syrian kurds but they went with the americans and it took some time before the relationship gained traction in the absence of the other solutions but a that became the mainstay of usf are in syria and it is essential to arm and equip them. >> was the best estimate of how many casualties they sustained going after the caliphate? >> i try to pin that down in excess of 5000 that they claim substantially more. one thing that was striking there were 20 with operation inherent resolves and thousa

so this here is mosul, quite not. and the dance identify the coordinates of where the city suffered damage . surely that you can also see that in july and large areas of the city were completely destroyed. these red dance identify areas of destruction via it. and this data, which tells us pretty much exactly where there was destruction can be used to train the algorithm with them. in the goal is to link the various colored areas on the map to the satellite image. also, by drawing on the many thousands of data points, the ai system will eventually learn how to reliably identify this kind of destruction. lisa will, even using sentinel, choose somewhat lower resolution images, but it won't completely replace human intelligence. when i witness somebody minutes history on, for example, if an algorithm identifies that a building was destroyed with a 50 percent confidence level. although then the algorithm just isn't sure the size and then a human needs to take a close look out and figure out what really happened on the grou

how early this alliance began and what actually happened was in august of 2014 really the day after mosul dam was taken back andis chris donahue later of lat man out and he was 234 the delta force commander and in northern iraq and the deal was brokered by the kurdish authorities there who were not on good terms with the kurdish authorities but that's a separate story. he came up with a concept that could be a partner for us and stop volunteers from joining the isis group coming down from turkey and stop from syria and a basic understanding between donahuee and muslim reaching in and other suiters traveling through the day and trying to strike a deal with the syrian kurds and it took time before this relationship gained traction through the action and absence and became the mainstay through the efforts of syria and it was essential and it did take time to arm and equip them. >>host: based on your reporting, what's the best estimate you've seen in terms of how many casualties the syrian democratic forces sustained? there were 20 u.s. ka in combat in operation resolve. there were thousands

as of an emotional reaction which doesn't really have a military impact that was done with psycho mosul from king's college london. in iran, protesters clashed with security forces and fresh anti regime demonstrations and was allegedly shot dead in his car. and then on dodge the capital of kurdistan, province rights groups based in europe say the victim was shot after. honking at security forces demonstrations over the death of a woman in custody, or in the 4th week. iran denies a death was caused by police brutality leave i, as is the iran project director at the international crisis group and independent thing tag, mr. vice. welcome to the w news. now the protest are entering their 4th week. are you surprised that the level of outrage has continued for this long? no, not necessarily. there is so much pent up frustration within the iranian society and a sense of hopelessness because the system over the years has stymied and sabotaged any possibility of reforms and evolutionary change. so it has basically left no place and no space or to people to demand for change or ordered and on the

yours probably could, but in recent years, eyes we've noticed that a younger crowd is coming to the mosul. she's their stock people between the ages of 25 and 35. like to come here to cycle eyes hike, mit of or do a climbing to her through the cow manya rod. so far we have another to gain order on her toward washed in latasha dyke twisting kind once a month wouldn't yard yum. they've discovered the old cliche of the muzzle as a place where you taste wine with an old ventnor and a stuffy little room. no longer applies in such london vine will be attending us as contrition to sing. we caught up with the times, followed wine, and have great winds and great outdoor activities on offer go porter activities, causing that movie made. stay that way. not he just cares. ah, i love long distance travel, and that's exactly what's almost impossible because of the pandemic will. anyway, we would like to show you some really beautiful spots on this earth before the crisis. our of your oculus from argentina invited us and in our meet the local flood. she's going to show you her hometown of santa fe. ah.

the battle of mosul in 2017 images such as these provide any a glimpse of the devastation, but they can be something of the humanitarian catastrophe. experienced by millions of people there. satellite images show the extent of the destruction like in the city of rocca before and after the battle against islamic state towel. we land from the international committee of the red cross or i c. r. c. analyzes images such as these for security reasons. she can show images of current conflicts. my word for the i say i see is to support alcholay on the ground to assess the situation, to, to know what to expect when they go on the ground. to also document the type of damages that happen. either a civilian, the buildings, hospitals were hit, it's painstaking work. she's an expert on interpreting high resolution images. they're expensive and that's not all me. we don't get an image every all the day on a specific spot and not all the context are covered by dis, a high resolution satellite imagery. and as well, we miss maybe a global picture. a new technology could help to develop it. the i c r c te

i did such those that obvious mosul, wasting us there, and i didn't find it. but i'm was that i see your mind. yeah, that's a diversity because daniel of the a new deal, lowest ones with real, real honest with project, with the, with the, with the, was the money done love for schooling with idea that would limit so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy, even foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic development only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successfully, very difficult time to sit down and talk with 5 people are reportedly injured in a car bomb outside a tv station in the upper washer beach. and local officials say an improvised device was used to also coming up on the program. smooth wash in town, on the very border with ukraine is now a frontline town that lives in constant anticipation of. yet another ukrainian strike akin to the one that destroyed this shopping move the seas 1st ton the damage in russia's belgrade region caused by kia shelling also on the program

removing civilians from their homes to enemy territory counts as a war, cry. dumb attila, sanguine mosul, is a senior lecturer in war studies at kings college, london. i asked her why she believes pro russian authorities in occupied hershawn or telling civilians to leave. i think that it looks very much like a retreat. ah, they are trying to save the forces that are based in here so on which was stuck between the advancing ukraine an army on the rivers. they couldn't cross it that near but river. so they are probably thinking that he makes more sense to save some of the valuable troops, them, or profession on fulls. is that what acknowledging that area further to the south on the south east to protect these full says, but there is, of course, a big question mark as to whether russia and dandy do sort of make some explosions in the dom in the a nova gulf cra, on in some way sort of flood the region on that was the intention. no so made sense to ask for it civilians to leave on for the military to leave. so i think that we cannot exclude that these 2 elements come hand in hand, that there

in the morning in virginia, the capital of brazil and the headquarters of the federal government of mosul. now had a meeting with the elite of the military forces. something contrary, it was reported that some minister with her, but not the minister of defense. a former minister of defense was part of the meeting instead of why the, why are they talking about with a noise. but what we know is that a group of a truck drivers who have been very awe about support to very strongly the president during this whole administrative, how to ready block rolls around at least 14 states across the country. that's why i said, as we expect, he took lucy sanctions to bryson in brazil. his speech is going to be very, very important. it's linked to the key to, to keep the peace of the concrete last night here in real, you're never in front of the of his private house. the private house of terry bush not to be supported were asked in did for the sunday, armed forces to take to the streets to prevent the left to take to retake by work in the country. so if jerry bolton, our doesn't concede residents with pan

yeah. national was munition ideas such those that obvious mosul, wasting us via and i didn't find that much that i see your mind. yeah. because that's the way you brought the daniel of a mix. ah, who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing additional strong sanctions today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. and number those constantly growing. a list of course, if you click on the billing is pretty much the mind that we're we're branding all in ports of russian oil and gas. new g i g 's with joe biden, imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's a boomerang, a a with cranes, later shelling of residential areas in the russian city of don't yet need to fix people with this. our, she's not practicing him day becomes portion of new prime minister with some people in india is appointment with colonial and indian leading the whole country and indian working in a foreign country that ruled us for 250 years, gives us a lot of happiness. i un security council meeting, guess how that russians request a warning think.

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such as pomegranate palms, grapes and figs, fruits for which the city of mosul is known, in general,iform inscriptions and slabs, which accurately date back to the time and reign of king shinohim. and later the king of hay. hirrim moved the sinacharib from the palace to the gate to seal the walls. archaeologists suggest that the relics once adorned the palace of the mighty king of assyria . maintenance work on these sculptures will carry the mission of the american university of pennsylvania from a poor childhood in argentina to the status of a great football player and a triumph in the world cup in 15 goalscorers debuted for the argentine schhunyor team. a season later, he began to play at the base scored 100 goals on a professional field to 20, despite an unsuccessful world championship athlete, european clubs laid eyes on him to get the player barcelona issued a transfer for $ 8 million contract with napoli made the only owner of the ferrari f40 to planetary success argentina. the captain brought to the 1986 world cup one of the most famous football goals in history, codenamed han

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that was the case with the mashki gate in mosul. this is what it once looked like.ves and flowing palms. the grey stone carvings date back to the rule of king sennacherib, who was in power from 705 to 681 bc. translation: the importance of this gate lies in the fact _ that it is the only piece containing completely preserved carvings. iraq was the birthplace of some of the world's earliest cities, and home to some of humanity's first examples of writing. it was feared that the ruthlessness of the islamic state meant that many of iraq's treasures were lost forever. but with discoveries such as this one, there seem to be reason still to be hopeful. sylvia lennon—spence, bbc news. christmas is on the horizon and it may be something you've started to think about, or perhaps even worry about, given the current cost of living crisis. research for the bbc shows most of us are planning to spend less this christmas. ellie price has been to blackburn to find out what that might really mean for people. here is a scary thought. christmas is only nine weeks away and for the elve

pinpointed cultural sites that were due protection and that during the allied taking of raqqa and mosul from isis, those booklets were carried by troops in the field on the ground. and they were written in arabic, kurdish and english. and the point of them was that in our retaking of those cities, we not destroy what isis was trying to destroy as part of their mission by 2019, while so many efforts in flour, it clear that more would be needed in the future as the u.s. and its military would be called on in both conflict and humanitarian crises to help safeguard cultural. we needed to up the partnership. we had a great ally in colonel de jesse, who worked closely. corey. colonel de jesse. his stuff had a great sense of mission and envisioned we could do together. in 2019, he and general geoffrey coggin from the u.s. army civil affairs command and its more as say you said, kapok. i know that. came to the smithsonian. and amidst meetings with lynne nichols nicholas, who had written a seminal study rape of europa about work to protect cultural heritage, world war two viewed our collections

and then as we're driving down one of the highways around mosul i'm having to type it into the computer target and then while we're there, there's more grids coming over the radio! (laughs) the guys are already getting back on the vehicles, "murphy, where are we goin'? murphy, where are we going? i'm like, "oh, (bleep)." >> smith: flynn says he streamlined intelligence vetting and empowered soldiers on the ground to make quick decisions on taking out targets. >> you'd have the assault force in the air. another assault force, literally in the aircraft. the initial assault force goes in, pull auy off of the objective, they'd be interrogating him in the aircraft. what was your function? what was your mission? who's your boss? >> smith: but flynn also cut out traditional channels for vetting intelligence before acting on it, and murphy and others say it came with a cost. >> these guys would play a game, "hey, hey, i'm not a terrorist. but i know where a terrorist lives," and they lead you on a wild goose chase all over town. worse case, they try to get you you to go kill the uncle they don'